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Very very interested in this...... c'mon Bud. Just drop the hammer and let the good times roll....
A-Rod has enough money & lawyers to be a royal pain in the Bud for a long time.A rod has some legal ace up his sleeve to get his money. Surely he can't prove innocence.
I love the Yankees and have no problem with Bud. Never likes ARod.I'm having difficulty determining who to root for here as I detest both ARod and Bud Selig, as well as the Yankees.![]()
Can't stand the Yanks, not a fan of Bud's at all. A-rod has been and is a joke and not worthy of much respect.I love the Yankees and have no problem with Bud. Never likes ARod.I'm having difficulty determining who to root for here as I detest both ARod and Bud Selig, as well as the Yankees.![]()
I want Bud to drop the atomic hammer on Arod.
That's fine. I'm not arguing for the death of Alex so that the Yankees get out from under the contract. It's not my money.Can't stand the Yanks, not a fan of Bud's at all. A-rod has been and is a joke and not worthy of much respect.I love the Yankees and have no problem with Bud. Never likes ARod.I'm having difficulty determining who to root for here as I detest both ARod and Bud Selig, as well as the Yankees.![]()
I want Bud to drop the atomic hammer on Arod.
That said, I'm 100% against an outcome that hurts A-rod but lets the Yanks off scott free, which is what they want. Baseball and the Yanks and this seeming desire to work together to nail A-rod smells. Baseball and the Yanks are culpable in this mess also, and neither should be spared the wrath of their decisions and actions to date.
Interesting observation, though Braun wasn't / isntAll of these guys are Hispanic, right?
http://deadspin.com/the-full-list-of-suspended-biogenesis-clients-1029648603?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
eta: and before someone flies off the handle, it's just something I happened to notice.
Surprised that Cruz backed down. Thought he would fight.Bastardo, Valdespin, Francisco Cervelli, Sergio Escalona, and Jesus Montero all out for 50 games too.
Cabrera, Cruz and Peralta have all accepted their suspensions.
As would ARod have if he was given 50 games for his first offense.Bastardo, Valdespin, Francisco Cervelli, Sergio Escalona, and Jesus Montero all out for 50 games too.
Cabrera, Cruz and Peralta have all accepted their suspensions.
He's a FA this winter, FWIW.Surprised that Cruz backed down. Thought he would fight.Bastardo, Valdespin, Francisco Cervelli, Sergio Escalona, and Jesus Montero all out for 50 games too.
Cabrera, Cruz and Peralta have all accepted their suspensions.
He can take his 50, play in the playoffs (theoretically) and becomes a free agent free and clear next year. Taking his suspension also allows him to negotiate an extension with the Rangers now. You can't sign an extension while on appeal last I checked.Surprised that Cruz backed down. Thought he would fight.Bastardo, Valdespin, Francisco Cervelli, Sergio Escalona, and Jesus Montero all out for 50 games too.
Cabrera, Cruz and Peralta have all accepted their suspensions.
I know the FA stuff. I just thought he would fight from what I was reading and to make sure that he helped the Rangers as long as possible. Yeah he could have lost some games next year, but Melky has shown that you can still get paid with these suspensions.He can take his 50, play in the playoffs (theoretically) and becomes a free agent free and clear next year. Taking his suspension also allows him to negotiate an extension with the Rangers now. You can't sign an extension while on appeal last I checked.Surprised that Cruz backed down. Thought he would fight.Bastardo, Valdespin, Francisco Cervelli, Sergio Escalona, and Jesus Montero all out for 50 games too.
Cabrera, Cruz and Peralta have all accepted their suspensions.
He could still get paid, but he would be leaving more dollars per game on the table, theoretically speaking at least. Is the suspension definitely for the regular season only?I know the FA stuff. I just thought he would fight from what I was reading and to make sure that he helped the Rangers as long as possible. Yeah he could have lost some games next year, but Melky has shown that you can still get paid with these suspensions.He can take his 50, play in the playoffs (theoretically) and becomes a free agent free and clear next year. Taking his suspension also allows him to negotiate an extension with the Rangers now. You can't sign an extension while on appeal last I checked.Surprised that Cruz backed down. Thought he would fight.Bastardo, Valdespin, Francisco Cervelli, Sergio Escalona, and Jesus Montero all out for 50 games too.
Cabrera, Cruz and Peralta have all accepted their suspensions.
This is where it makes the most sense, to me, to be risking being caught. If you are going to end up in the minors or, with some cheating, make the majors for a few years, that's a huge benefit, even considering the risk.Cervelli is just a funny one. All those drugs you are taking and you can't crack a solid job on a moajor league team? Oh well. Maybe they don't help all that much after all.
Why do you not like A-Rod? He brought your team its most recent tainted championship. He is a True Yankee and you should worship him.I love the Yankees and have no problem with Bud. Never likes ARod.I want Bud to drop the atomic hammer on Arod.I'm having difficulty determining who to root for here as I detest both ARod and Bud Selig, as well as the Yankees.![]()
Yup. Always thought the majority of the juicers were the fringe major leaguers who would be no better than A ball or AA journeyman without it. The spike from the low levels of the minors to a major league bench guy is probably the largest gap increase in income %, not to mention lifestyle.This is where it makes the most sense, to me, to be risking being caught. If you are going to end up in the minors or, with some cheating, make the majors for a few years, that's a huge benefit, even considering the risk.Cervelli is just a funny one. All those drugs you are taking and you can't crack a solid job on a moajor league team? Oh well. Maybe they don't help all that much after all.
I've said before, I'll gladly give up all the WS titles we won with ARod, Giambi, and Clemens if the Red Sox give up the titles they won with Manny and OrtizWhy do you not like A-Rod? He brought your team its most recent tainted championship. He is a True Yankee and you should worship him.I love the Yankees and have no problem with Bud. Never likes ARod.I want Bud to drop the atomic hammer on Arod.I'm having difficulty determining who to root for here as I detest both ARod and Bud Selig, as well as the Yankees.![]()
Maybe the drugs had a negative effect on him. He was solid for NYY.Pretty sure Jesus Montero was in the control group. Guy couldn't hit his way out of a wet paper bag.
Has more to do with which PED operation happened to get busted and where it was located IMO.All of these guys are Hispanic, right?
http://deadspin.com/the-full-list-of-suspended-biogenesis-clients-1029648603?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
eta: and before someone flies off the handle, it's just something I happened to notice.
Oh, you're one of them, huh? Ok.Why do you not like A-Rod? He brought your team its most recent tainted championship. He is a True Yankee and you should worship him.I love the Yankees and have no problem with Bud. Never likes ARod.I want Bud to drop the atomic hammer on Arod.I'm having difficulty determining who to root for here as I detest both ARod and Bud Selig, as well as the Yankees.![]()
Cruz was getting a big deal regardless of what he chose to do. It seems the MLB case was pretty good though so he took the suspension now knowing he'd probably get 50 games regardless. I'm also surprised he didn't fight it though.I know the FA stuff. I just thought he would fight from what I was reading and to make sure that he helped the Rangers as long as possible. Yeah he could have lost some games next year, but Melky has shown that you can still get paid with these suspensions.He can take his 50, play in the playoffs (theoretically) and becomes a free agent free and clear next year. Taking his suspension also allows him to negotiate an extension with the Rangers now. You can't sign an extension while on appeal last I checked.Surprised that Cruz backed down. Thought he would fight.Bastardo, Valdespin, Francisco Cervelli, Sergio Escalona, and Jesus Montero all out for 50 games too.
Cabrera, Cruz and Peralta have all accepted their suspensions.
Say it ain't so de los Santos, say it ain't so.Fautino de los Santos, Cesar Puello (Mets), Fernando Martinez (Yankees) all toast too.
Has more to do with which PED operation happened to get busted and where it was located IMO.All of these guys are Hispanic, right?
http://deadspin.com/the-full-list-of-suspended-biogenesis-clients-1029648603?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
eta: and before someone flies off the handle, it's just something I happened to notice.
No it was MLB trying to overplay their hand to have ARod take a suspension that is unfair. IF MLB had just gave Arod the 50 game suspension like everyone else this would be a non story. Problem is MLB already set the punishment for actions like Arods with Melky Cabera last year. If he only got the 50 game suspension, then was able to sign a FA contract, how are you going after Arod different, both lied both were caught.With the stories now of Selig only using the JDA for the suspension, I'm hoping it's all a ruse to make Alex breath a sigh of relief, then Bud comes out all Clemens on the mound against Piazza and says, Mr. Rodriguez is suspended and banned for life from the game of baseball. Suck it.
ARod is certainly the most famous, but how is he a bigger cheater than any of the rest of them?its pretty funny how the biggest cheater out of them all will be the only one playing today
Plenty of businesses larger than MLB have institutionalized racism. It wouldn't surprise me that the league has declined to investigate certain leads due to the race of the players implicated.Has more to do with which PED operation happened to get busted and where it was located IMO.All of these guys are Hispanic, right?
http://deadspin.com/the-full-list-of-suspended-biogenesis-clients-1029648603?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
eta: and before someone flies off the handle, it's just something I happened to notice.
There is no suspension of him that is unfair. Melky's incident really wasn't remotely close at all to this one so people really need to stop using it.No it was MLB trying to overplay their hand to have ARod take a suspension that is unfair. IF MLB had just gave Arod the 50 game suspension like everyone else this would be a non story. Problem is MLB already set the punishment for actions like Arods with Melky Cabera last year. If he only got the 50 game suspension, then was able to sign a FA contract, how are you going after Arod different, both lied both were caught.With the stories now of Selig only using the JDA for the suspension, I'm hoping it's all a ruse to make Alex breath a sigh of relief, then Bud comes out all Clemens on the mound against Piazza and says, Mr. Rodriguez is suspended and banned for life from the game of baseball. Suck it.
So in the end Arod will sit 50 games, I expect after all the legal battles. Unless they have that hammer, which I dont think they do or they would of used it already.
How is it not close?There is no suspension of him that is unfair. Melky's incident really wasn't remotely close at all to this one so people really need to stop using it.No it was MLB trying to overplay their hand to have ARod take a suspension that is unfair. IF MLB had just gave Arod the 50 game suspension like everyone else this would be a non story. Problem is MLB already set the punishment for actions like Arods with Melky Cabera last year. If he only got the 50 game suspension, then was able to sign a FA contract, how are you going after Arod different, both lied both were caught.With the stories now of Selig only using the JDA for the suspension, I'm hoping it's all a ruse to make Alex breath a sigh of relief, then Bud comes out all Clemens on the mound against Piazza and says, Mr. Rodriguez is suspended and banned for life from the game of baseball. Suck it.
So in the end Arod will sit 50 games, I expect after all the legal battles. Unless they have that hammer, which I dont think they do or they would of used it already.
you're special.Plenty of businesses larger than MLB have institutionalized racism. It wouldn't surprise me that the league has declined to investigate certain leads due to the race of the players implicated.Has more to do with which PED operation happened to get busted and where it was located IMO.All of these guys are Hispanic, right?
http://deadspin.com/the-full-list-of-suspended-biogenesis-clients-1029648603?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
eta: and before someone flies off the handle, it's just something I happened to notice.
Let's say it's true that both ARod and MLB were at some point trying to purchase the Biogenesis evidence. I'm guessing what they were planning on doing with it was a little different.How is it not close?There is no suspension of him that is unfair. Melky's incident really wasn't remotely close at all to this one so people really need to stop using it.No it was MLB trying to overplay their hand to have ARod take a suspension that is unfair. IF MLB had just gave Arod the 50 game suspension like everyone else this would be a non story. Problem is MLB already set the punishment for actions like Arods with Melky Cabera last year. If he only got the 50 game suspension, then was able to sign a FA contract, how are you going after Arod different, both lied both were caught.With the stories now of Selig only using the JDA for the suspension, I'm hoping it's all a ruse to make Alex breath a sigh of relief, then Bud comes out all Clemens on the mound against Piazza and says, Mr. Rodriguez is suspended and banned for life from the game of baseball. Suck it.
So in the end Arod will sit 50 games, I expect after all the legal battles. Unless they have that hammer, which I dont think they do or they would of used it already.
Both were busted for PED's.. Check
Both lied about it.. check
One committed fraud with a fake website, one "attempted" to purchase the evidence. is the only difference.
But wait MLB is upset that Arod " attempted" to purchased the same evidence that MLB did. So how can MLB complain about something that they did?
And why should Arod serve more than a 50 game suspension since this is his first time (in this program)?
They all lie about it. Just stop already. But really, your opinion isn't invalid. I really just don't care about it.How is it not close?There is no suspension of him that is unfair. Melky's incident really wasn't remotely close at all to this one so people really need to stop using it.No it was MLB trying to overplay their hand to have ARod take a suspension that is unfair. IF MLB had just gave Arod the 50 game suspension like everyone else this would be a non story. Problem is MLB already set the punishment for actions like Arods with Melky Cabera last year. If he only got the 50 game suspension, then was able to sign a FA contract, how are you going after Arod different, both lied both were caught.With the stories now of Selig only using the JDA for the suspension, I'm hoping it's all a ruse to make Alex breath a sigh of relief, then Bud comes out all Clemens on the mound against Piazza and says, Mr. Rodriguez is suspended and banned for life from the game of baseball. Suck it.
So in the end Arod will sit 50 games, I expect after all the legal battles. Unless they have that hammer, which I dont think they do or they would of used it already.
Both were busted for PED's.. Check
Both lied about it.. check
One committed fraud with a fake website, one "attempted" to purchase the evidence. is the only difference.
But wait MLB is upset that Arod " attempted" to purchased the same evidence that MLB did. So how can MLB complain about something that they did?
And why should Arod serve more than a 50 game suspension since this is his first time (in this program)?
Has ARod said he would have taken a 50 game suspension? If so, I missed that. I would find that interesting because he claims he's innocent so why would he take any deal?No it was MLB trying to overplay their hand to have ARod take a suspension that is unfair. IF MLB had just gave Arod the 50 game suspension like everyone else this would be a non story. Problem is MLB already set the punishment for actions like Arods with Melky Cabera last year. If he only got the 50 game suspension, then was able to sign a FA contract, how are you going after Arod different, both lied both were caught.With the stories now of Selig only using the JDA for the suspension, I'm hoping it's all a ruse to make Alex breath a sigh of relief, then Bud comes out all Clemens on the mound against Piazza and says, Mr. Rodriguez is suspended and banned for life from the game of baseball. Suck it.
So in the end Arod will sit 50 games, I expect after all the legal battles. Unless they have that hammer, which I dont think they do or they would of used it already.
Must be nice to believe you live in a society without racism.you're special.Plenty of businesses larger than MLB have institutionalized racism. It wouldn't surprise me that the league has declined to investigate certain leads due to the race of the players implicated.Has more to do with which PED operation happened to get busted and where it was located IMO.All of these guys are Hispanic, right?
http://deadspin.com/the-full-list-of-suspended-biogenesis-clients-1029648603?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
eta: and before someone flies off the handle, it's just something I happened to notice.
ARod has already stated he used his 3 years in TexasARod is certainly the most famous, but how is he a bigger cheater than any of the rest of them?its pretty funny how the biggest cheater out of them all will be the only one playing today
As with both sides "unnamed sources" have stated that if it was just the 50 games that Arod would of took the deal, but both of course "unnamed sources" were talking about a life ban as well.Has ARod said he would have taken a 50 game suspension? If so, I missed that. I would find that interesting because he claims he's innocent so why would he take any deal?No it was MLB trying to overplay their hand to have ARod take a suspension that is unfair. IF MLB had just gave Arod the 50 game suspension like everyone else this would be a non story. Problem is MLB already set the punishment for actions like Arods with Melky Cabera last year. If he only got the 50 game suspension, then was able to sign a FA contract, how are you going after Arod different, both lied both were caught.With the stories now of Selig only using the JDA for the suspension, I'm hoping it's all a ruse to make Alex breath a sigh of relief, then Bud comes out all Clemens on the mound against Piazza and says, Mr. Rodriguez is suspended and banned for life from the game of baseball. Suck it.
So in the end Arod will sit 50 games, I expect after all the legal battles. Unless they have that hammer, which I dont think they do or they would of used it already.
The one good thing that would come out of Arod appealing is that hopefully all this will be aried out publically. I assume that the appeal details will leak just like everything else has.
Hard to call that cheating back then when there were no tests and no penalties. Besides, it's highly doubtful the people being suspended all started with Biogenesis.ARod has already stated he used his 3 years in TexasARod is certainly the most famous, but how is he a bigger cheater than any of the rest of them?its pretty funny how the biggest cheater out of them all will be the only one playing today
Maybe. Alex has done more damage to the game and the league then Pete Rose ever did.Hard to call that cheating back then when there were no tests and no penalties. Besides, it's highly doubtful the people being suspended all started with Biogenesis.ARod has already stated he used his 3 years in TexasARod is certainly the most famous, but how is he a bigger cheater than any of the rest of them?its pretty funny how the biggest cheater out of them all will be the only one playing today
Dude, you are obviously biased. Probably because of the horrible deal your team made and can't get out from under. Guys like McGuire Bonds and Sosa did WAY more damage with their cheating and lying than ARod has. He hasn't broken any major records. He's just going to ber known as one of the cheaters. The other guys ruined the cherished record books.Maybe. Alex has done more damage to the game and the league then Pete Rose ever did.Hard to call that cheating back then when there were no tests and no penalties. Besides, it's highly doubtful the people being suspended all started with Biogenesis.ARod has already stated he used his 3 years in TexasARod is certainly the most famous, but how is he a bigger cheater than any of the rest of them?its pretty funny how the biggest cheater out of them all will be the only one playing today
Although maybe this is good for Pete. Maybe someone will finally get over themselves and let Pete back.