Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
20+ MLB players to be suspended? Braun, A-Rod? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Tony Jabroni
- Start date
Tom Skerritt
Footballguy
Last edited by a moderator:
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Tom Skerritt
Footballguy
No. He probably wanted to recover from injury faster and get stronger so that he could throw the ball harder. Either that or so he could ride a bike 3,000 miles in 3 weeks. Can't remember which.
Man of Zen
Footballguy
For pitchers, it's mostly an aid to recovery from doing their job. Being a pitcher for a major league baseball club is a very brutal thing to do to a human body.
otello
Footballguy
Now that the initial MLB investigation is over, I want to apologize for my actions and provide a more specific account of what I did and why I deserved to be suspended. I have no one to blame but myself. I know that over the last year and a half I made some serious mistakes, both in the information I failed to share during my arbitration hearing and the comments I made to the press afterwards.
I have disappointed the people closest to me -- the ones who fought for me because they truly believed me all along. I kept the truth from everyone. For a long time, I was in denial and convinced myself that I had not done anything wrong.
It is important that people understand that I did not share details of what happened with anyone until recently. My family, my teammates, the Brewers organization, my friends, agents, and advisors had no knowledge of these facts, and no one should be blamed but me. Those who put their necks out for me have been embarrassed by my behavior. I don't have the words to express how sorry I am for that.
Here is what happened. During the latter part of the 2011 season, I was dealing with a nagging injury and I turned to products for a short period of time that I shouldn't have used. The products were a cream and a lozenge which I was told could help expedite my rehabilitation. It was a huge mistake for which I am deeply ashamed and I compounded the situation by not admitting my mistakes immediately.
I deeply regret many of the things I said at the press conference after the arbitrator's decision in February 2012. At that time, I still didn't want to believe that I had used a banned substance. I think a combination of feeling self righteous and having a lot of unjustified anger led me to react the way I did. I felt wronged and attacked, but looking back now, I was the one who was wrong. I am beyond embarrassed that I said what I thought I needed to say to defend my clouded vision of reality. I am just starting the process of trying to understand why I responded the way I did, which I continue to regret. There is no excuse for any of this.
For too long during this process, I convinced myself that I had not done anything wrong. After my interview with MLB in late June of this year, I came to the realization that it was time to come to grips with the truth. I was never presented with baseball's evidence against me, but I didn't need to be, because I knew what I had done. I realized the magnitude of my poor decisions and finally focused on dealing with the realities of-and the punishment for-my actions.
I requested a second meeting with Baseball to acknowledge my violation of the drug policy and to engage in discussions about appropriate punishment for my actions. By coming forward when I did and waiving my right to appeal any sanctions that were going to be imposed, I knew I was making the correct decision and taking the first step in the right direction. It was important to me to begin my suspension immediately to minimize the burden on everyone I had so negatively affected -- my teammates, the entire Brewers organization, the fans and all of MLB. There has been plenty of rumor and speculation about my situation, and I am aware that my admission may result in additional attacks and accusations from others.
I love the great game of baseball and I am very sorry for any damage done to the game. I have privately expressed my apologies to Commissioner Selig and Rob Manfred of MLB and to Michael Weiner and his staff at the Players' Association. I'm very grateful for the support I've received from them. I sincerely apologize to everybody involved in the arbitration process, including the collector, Dino Laurenzi, Jr. I feel terrible that I put my teammates in a position where they were asked some very difficult and uncomfortable questions. One of my primary goals is to make amends with them.
I understand it's a blessing and a tremendous honor to play this game at the Major League level. I also understand the intensity of the disappointment from teammates, fans, and other players. When it comes to both my actions and my words, I made some very serious mistakes and I can only ask for the forgiveness of everyone I let down. I will never make the same errors again and I intend to share the lessons I learned with others so they don't repeat my mistakes. Moving forward, I want to be part of the solution and no longer part of the problem.
I support baseball's Joint Drug Treatment and Prevention Program and the importance of cleaning up the game. What I did goes against everything I have always valued -- achieving through hard work and dedication, and being honest both on and off the field. I also understand that I will now have to work very, very hard to begin to earn back people's trust and support.I am dedicated to making amends and to earning back the trust of my teammates, the fans, the entire Brewers' organization, my sponsors, advisors and from MLB. I am hopeful that I can earn back the trust from those who I have disappointed and those who are willing to give me the opportunity. I am deeply sorry for my actions, and I apologize to everyone who has been adversely affected by them.
I have disappointed the people closest to me -- the ones who fought for me because they truly believed me all along. I kept the truth from everyone. For a long time, I was in denial and convinced myself that I had not done anything wrong.
It is important that people understand that I did not share details of what happened with anyone until recently. My family, my teammates, the Brewers organization, my friends, agents, and advisors had no knowledge of these facts, and no one should be blamed but me. Those who put their necks out for me have been embarrassed by my behavior. I don't have the words to express how sorry I am for that.
Here is what happened. During the latter part of the 2011 season, I was dealing with a nagging injury and I turned to products for a short period of time that I shouldn't have used. The products were a cream and a lozenge which I was told could help expedite my rehabilitation. It was a huge mistake for which I am deeply ashamed and I compounded the situation by not admitting my mistakes immediately.
I deeply regret many of the things I said at the press conference after the arbitrator's decision in February 2012. At that time, I still didn't want to believe that I had used a banned substance. I think a combination of feeling self righteous and having a lot of unjustified anger led me to react the way I did. I felt wronged and attacked, but looking back now, I was the one who was wrong. I am beyond embarrassed that I said what I thought I needed to say to defend my clouded vision of reality. I am just starting the process of trying to understand why I responded the way I did, which I continue to regret. There is no excuse for any of this.
For too long during this process, I convinced myself that I had not done anything wrong. After my interview with MLB in late June of this year, I came to the realization that it was time to come to grips with the truth. I was never presented with baseball's evidence against me, but I didn't need to be, because I knew what I had done. I realized the magnitude of my poor decisions and finally focused on dealing with the realities of-and the punishment for-my actions.
I requested a second meeting with Baseball to acknowledge my violation of the drug policy and to engage in discussions about appropriate punishment for my actions. By coming forward when I did and waiving my right to appeal any sanctions that were going to be imposed, I knew I was making the correct decision and taking the first step in the right direction. It was important to me to begin my suspension immediately to minimize the burden on everyone I had so negatively affected -- my teammates, the entire Brewers organization, the fans and all of MLB. There has been plenty of rumor and speculation about my situation, and I am aware that my admission may result in additional attacks and accusations from others.
I love the great game of baseball and I am very sorry for any damage done to the game. I have privately expressed my apologies to Commissioner Selig and Rob Manfred of MLB and to Michael Weiner and his staff at the Players' Association. I'm very grateful for the support I've received from them. I sincerely apologize to everybody involved in the arbitration process, including the collector, Dino Laurenzi, Jr. I feel terrible that I put my teammates in a position where they were asked some very difficult and uncomfortable questions. One of my primary goals is to make amends with them.
I understand it's a blessing and a tremendous honor to play this game at the Major League level. I also understand the intensity of the disappointment from teammates, fans, and other players. When it comes to both my actions and my words, I made some very serious mistakes and I can only ask for the forgiveness of everyone I let down. I will never make the same errors again and I intend to share the lessons I learned with others so they don't repeat my mistakes. Moving forward, I want to be part of the solution and no longer part of the problem.
I support baseball's Joint Drug Treatment and Prevention Program and the importance of cleaning up the game. What I did goes against everything I have always valued -- achieving through hard work and dedication, and being honest both on and off the field. I also understand that I will now have to work very, very hard to begin to earn back people's trust and support.I am dedicated to making amends and to earning back the trust of my teammates, the fans, the entire Brewers' organization, my sponsors, advisors and from MLB. I am hopeful that I can earn back the trust from those who I have disappointed and those who are willing to give me the opportunity. I am deeply sorry for my actions, and I apologize to everyone who has been adversely affected by them.
Last edited by a moderator:
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
You know who I will respect. The first guy who says:
- I did it to win
- I did it to make me better
- I did it to make more money
So far petite and ironically arod have come the closest to that, at least saying they used steroids or hgh.
The vagaries of brauns apology don't impress me. Plead ignorance, I lied before but my apology is true, I'm doing this in a statement and not facing questions. He's still a weasel POS.
- I did it to win
- I did it to make me better
- I did it to make more money
So far petite and ironically arod have come the closest to that, at least saying they used steroids or hgh.
The vagaries of brauns apology don't impress me. Plead ignorance, I lied before but my apology is true, I'm doing this in a statement and not facing questions. He's still a weasel POS.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I accept Braun's apology and look forward to cheering him on next season at Miller Park. Thanks Brauny! 
dparker713
Footballguy
I will only respect a guy that says I did it and I'm not sorry. Cause none of these guys are sorry they did it, only that they got caught.Smack Tripper said:
B-Deep
Footballguy
i thought you wouldn't care what they said since you think they should all be juiced up like Bane
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
dparker713
Footballguy
B-Deep
Footballguy
but you do, at least, admit you don't respect Braun?
most things that i don't care about don;t impact my respect of someone, but that's just me
dparker713
Footballguy
I don't respect athletes or celebrities merely because of their jobs. So its not like I ever respected Braun.
The General
Footballguy
ARod pulling the "I didn't know what I was taking" route. Totally believable.
SeaDogStat
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
The Francesa was transformative for me re Arod. I never disliked A-rod, but I never liked him either. Too may high priced free agents (esp from the rival Red Sox) is the reason why I turned away from the Yankees as a fan in '95/'96/'97.
Anyway...when you looked at his face during that interview...during the denials he was very convincing. He looked straight ahead, eyes open, clear speech. And also the right dose of emotion/personalization/passion.
If he's lying then sign him up for SAG.
SeaDogStat
Footballguy
You mean like he did with Katie Couric interview?
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/a-rod-how-could-i-be-truthful-with-katie-couric-or-cbs_b22794
Besides, it's easy to say/deny everything you want on radio/tv when you aren't under oath...
Last edited by a moderator:
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
A-Rod is a #####, but I did get a chuckle out of him ripping Bud Selig, who deserves a verbal smackdown.
The General
Footballguy
The Arbitration Panel took off about 50 games. But ARod will fight on! Keep up the crusade against big bad MLB, ARod.
How badly do the Yanks want to dump this guy?
How badly do the Yanks want to dump this guy?
sports_fan
Footballguy
I hope he never plays again.
Koya
Footballguy
Well, the Yankees appear to be the real winner here. They brought on a guy they knew was on roids, at the least implicitly wanted him to stay on roids, and now they can use roids as an excuse to not pay the salary or have it hit the cap.
At least the commish and his administration are even handed and don't favor the owners or anything. What a joke.
At least the commish and his administration are even handed and don't favor the owners or anything. What a joke.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
60 Minutes, folks. Put on 60 Minutes right now. This is gonna be great.
The General
Footballguy
Bottomfeeder Sports
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Now Bosch is pretty much saying that A-Rod wanted him to go down to Colombia to get whacked.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Holy ####... this is a friggin movie of the week. A-Rod = Aaron Hernandez.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
About how sleazy MLB was during this investigation, and of course what he knew about the roid era. Look ARod was on the juice, but I want to know what Bud knew. Even today I think they know more than what they did.
If Bud has nothing to hid why run away from taking the oath. MLB jumped on ARod for the same thing, but it also goes both ways!
The General
Footballguy
And news today has ARod admtting to using all along to get immunity. Lance Armstrong thinks this guy is a lying turd.
The General
Footballguy
I'm a baseball fan. If you've followed the story the ability for this guy to repeatedly lie to people's faces has been amazing.
The General
Footballguy
I am always amazed and kind of weirdly impressed when someone can lie to everyone at that level over and over again.
I just operate under the assumption that those in some sort of power/fame are constantly lying to everyone. Makes it easier
The General
Footballguy
Very cynical, but probably not necessarily a bad call.I just operate under the assumption that those in some sort of power/fame are constantly lying to everyone. Makes it easier
Similar threads
