2006 Consensus WR Rankings (1 Viewer)

[Islander]

Please post your 2006 WR rankings here. Assume standard scoring, redraft. We will simply calculate the average rankings based on everybody's list to get something close to what an ADP would be if we had to draft in the next few days or weeks.

Several things are still unsettled like the NFL draft, free agents, coaching changes, etc. You should make your rankings based on all info you have available today, as if your FFL draft was tomorrow.

We'll start a similar thread for Ds and Ks later.

QB consensus here

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=218039

RB consensus here

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=219811

TE consensus here

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=225841

LB consensus here

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=226236

FBGs do their consensus rankings after the NFL draft and I don't want to wait until late April to get a rough idea consensus rankings at key positions.

Here is my WR list

1 Steve Smith

2 Chad Johnson

3 Torry Holt

4 Marvin Harrison

5 Larry Fitzgerald

6 Anquan Boldin

7 Randy Moss

8 Terrell Owens

9 Darrell Jackson

10 Hines Ward

11 Reggie Wayne

12 Plaxico Burress

13 Javon Walker

14 Roy Williams

15 Chris Chambers

16 Santana Moss

17 T.J. Houshmandzadeh

18 Deion Branch

19 Andre Johnson

20 Derrick Mason

21 Donald Driver

22 Donté Stallworth

23 Drew Bennett

24 Joe Horn

25 Laveranues Coles

26 Joey Galloway

27 Rod Smith

28 Lee Evans

29 Michael Clayton

30 Isaac Bruce

 

[UnknownCoach]

1 Randy Moss

2 Terrell Owens

3 Anquan Boldin

4 Steve Smith

5 Torry Holt

6 Chad Johnson

7 Roy Williams

8 Andre Johnson

9 Hines Ward

10 Marvin Harrison

11 Reggie Wayne

12 Larry Fitzgerald

13 Muhsin Muhammad

14 Javon Walker

15 Derrick Mason

16 Chris Chambers

17 Santana Moss

18 Joe Horn

19 Darrell Jackson

20 Koren Robinson

21 Terry Glenn

22 Jerry Porter

23 Eric Moulds

24 Plaxico Burress

25 Reggie Brown

26 Keyshawn Johnson

27 Joey Galloway

28 Lee Evans

29 Antonio Bryant

30 Isaac Bruce

31 Deion Branch

32 Laveranues Coles

33 Mike Clayton

34 Bobby Engram

35 Eddie Kennison

 

[mueller54]

Wide Receivers

1. Chad Johnson

2. Tory Holt

3. Steve Smith

4. Larry Fitzgerald

5. Terell Owens

6. Anquan Boldin

7. Marvin Harrison

8. Randy Moss

9. Hines Ward

10. Santana Moss

11. Joey Galloway

12. Darrell Jackson

13. Chris Chambers

14. Reggie Wayne

15. TJ Houshmandzadeh

16. Plaxico Burress

17. Javon Walker

18. Rod Smith

19. Donald Driver

20. Andre Johnson

21. Roy Williams

22. Deion Branch

23. Eddie Kennison

24. Lee Evans

25. Derrick Mason

26. Donte Stallworth

27. Brandon Lloyd

28. Jimmy Smith

29. Keenan McCardell

30. Mushin Muhammad

31. Drew Bennett

32. Reggie Brown

33. Terry Glenn

34. Joe Horn

35. Kevin Curtis

36. Jerry Porter

37. Eric Moulds

38. Antonio Bryant

39. Ashley Lelie

40. Koren Robinson

41. Braylon Edwards

42. Laverneus Coles

43. Samie Parker

44. Isaac Bruce

45. Keyshawn Johnson

46. Earnest Wilford

47. Joe Jurevicius

48. Mark Clayton

49. David Givens

50. Bobby Engram

51. Michael Clayton

52. Amani Toomer

53. Travis Taylor

54. Matt Jones

55. Eric Parker

56. Roddy White

57. Nate Burleson

58. Justin McCareins

59. Troy Williamson

60. Robert Ferguson

61. Antwan Randle El

62. Arnaz Battle

63. Roydell Williams

64. Marty Booker

65. Courtney Roby

66. Doug Gabriel

67. Charles Rogers

68. Chris Henry

69. Az Hakim

70. Patrick Crayton

71. Mike Williams

72. Drew Carter

73. Michael Jenkins

74. Dante Hall

75. Brandon Stokley

76. Corey Bradford

77. Marcus Robinson

78. Jabar Gaffney

79. Brandon Jones

80. Mark Bradley

81. Bryant Johnson

82. Keary Colbert

 

[Crippler]

1. Chad Johnson

2. Torry Holt

3. Anquan Boldin

4. Larry Fitzgerald

5. Darrell Jackson

6. Randy Moss

7. Marvin Harrison

8. Hines Ward

9. Steve Smith

10. Javon Walker

11. Reggie Wayne

12. Plaxico Burress

13. Chris Chambers

14. Roy Williams

15. Micheal Clayton

16. Terry Glenn

17. Santana Moss

18. Jerry Porter

19. Lavernus Coles

20. Andre Johnson

21. Terrell Owens

22. Lee Evans

23. Deion Branch

24. Rod Smith

25. Derrick Mason

26. Donte Stallworth

27. TJ Houshmandzadeh

28. Eric Moulds

29. Reggie Brown

30. Nate Burleson

 

[DoctorDetroit]

1 Chad Johnson

2 Larry Fitzgerald

3 Steve Smith

4 Randy Moss

5 Torry Holt

6 Terrell Owens

7 Reggie Wayne

8 Chris Chambers

9 Darrell Jackson

10 Plaxico Burress

11 Marvin Harrison

12 Hines Ward

13 Javon Walker

14 Roy Williams

15 Anquan Boldin

16 Santana Moss

17 T.J. Houshmandzadeh

18 Deion Branch

19 Andre Johnson

20 Lee Evans

 

[SoloMatisse]

I love lists, but even more, I love to see Larry Fitzgerald in the TWELVE slot on a list!! Youve got to be kidding me....and would you please join my league in my division and play me 3 times next year??? Thats too funny.

 

[harrycarey]

1. Torry Holt

2. Chad Johnson

3. Steve Smith

4. Randy Moss

5. Larry Fitzgerald

6. Terrell Owens

7. Anquan Boldin

8. Marvin Harrison

9. Darrell Jackson

10. Chris Chambers

11. Plaxico Burress

12. Santana Moss

13. Hines Ward

14. Reggie Wayne

15. Andre Johnson

16. Javon Walker

17. Roy Williams

18. Deion Branch

19. Jerry Porter

20. Eddie Kennison

21. Braylon Edwards

22. Derrick Mason

23. Donte Stallworth

24. Lee Evans

25. Donald Driver

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I love lists, but even more, I love to see Larry Fitzgerald in the TWELVE slot on a list!! Youve got to be kidding me....and would you please join my league in my division and play me 3 times next year??? Thats too funny.

Whats funnier is Andre Johnson at 8

 

[-OZ-]

Nobody ever agrees or gets these right anyway, so I'll chime in

You could list these 6 in any order

1. Chad Johnson

2. Randy Moss

3. Steve Smith

4. TO

5. Larry Fitzgerald

6. Torry Holt

Consistant studs, good as a #1 WR for any FF team

7. Marvin Harrison

8. Hines Ward

9. Darrell Jackson

10. Plaxico Burress

11. Reggie Wayne

12. Anquan Boldin

A bit risky, but stud potential

13. Chris Chambers

14. Roy Williams

15. Javon Walker

16. Lee Evans

17. Santana Moss

18. Matt Jones

19. Andre Johnson

Great #2, but either inconsistent or I have questions

20. Jerry Porter

21. Lav Coles

22. Terry Glenn

23. Deion Branch

24. Rod Smith

25. Micheal Clayton

26. Eddie Kennison

27. Nate Burleson

28. Joe Horn

Might be good values, or overpriced.

29. Reggie Brown

30. Brandon Lloyd

EDIT - AJ to tier #3.

 

[SoloMatisse]

Nobody ever agrees or gets these right anyway, so I'll chime in

You could list these 6 in any order

1. Chad Johnson

2. Randy Moss

3. Steve Smith

4. TO

5. Larry Fitzgerald

6. Torry Holt

Consistant studs, good as a #1 WR for any FF team

7. Marvin Harrison

8. Hines Ward

9. Darrell Jackson

10. Plaxico Burress

11. Reggie Wayne

12. Anquan Boldin

A bit risky, but stud potential

13. Chris Chambers

14. Roy Williams

15. Javon Walker

16. Lee Evans

17. Santana Moss

18. Matt Jones

Great #2, but either inconsistent or I have questions

19. Jerry Porter

20. Andre Johnson

21. Lav Coles

22. Terry Glenn

23. Deion Branch

24. Rod Smith

25. Micheal Clayton

26. Eddie Kennison

27. Nate Burleson

28. Joe Horn

Might be good values, or overpriced.

29. Reggie Brown

30. Brandon Lloyd

This is a really good breakdown, OZ. Question...where do you see Koren Robinson falling into these forecasts? Is he in the 25-35 range or 45-55? Imo, if he continues to tighten up and fly straight, he could be a steal at many drafts next year, pending which team he signs with and in what role. Got him as a keeper and I need a #2 to go with Larry, so maybe Im reaching.

 

[slimflop]

[quote=-OZ-

A bit risky, but stud potential

13. Chris Chambers

14. Roy Williams

15. Javon Walker

16. Lee Evans

17. Santana Moss

18. Matt Jones

 

[Bri]

Wide Receivers

on going deep into this

 

[Bears_Man2]

I love lists, but even more, I love to see Larry Fitzgerald in the TWELVE slot on a list!! Youve got to be kidding me....and would you please join my league in my division and play me 3 times next year??? Thats too funny.

Whats funnier is Andre Johnson at 8

Whats funniest is Moose at 13. So ranking him at 13, if you had your choice of WR's outside of the 1st 12 (to be your #2 in a standard 12-team league), would you seriously take Muhammad?? I'd be surprised if Muhammad ever 1) broke 1,000 yards again, 2) is the #1 WR in Chicago by the end of next season.

 

[-OZ-]

quote=SoloMatisse,Feb 12 2006, 10:08 PMGreat #2, but either inconsistent or I have questions Might be good values, or overpriced. --------------------------------------------------------------------------This is a really good breakdown, OZ. Question...where do you see Koren Robinson falling into these forecasts? Is he in the 25-35 range or 45-55? Imo, if he continues to tighten up and fly straight, he could be a steal at many drafts next year, pending which team he signs with and in what role. Got him as a keeper and I need a #2 to go with Larry, so maybe Im reaching.

Thanks. I had written K-Rob in under both of these categories, but in the end opted to put him lower, and leave him off. If I had gone deeper, probably 31-40 range.

quote=slimflop,Feb 12 2006, 10:19 PMquote=-OZ-A bit risky, but stud potential 18. Matt Jones

Is the a question, your commentary that I have him too high, or echoing my original at his potential?

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Why the huge drop off for Joe Horn?

The guy was in the top 10s at the beginning of this past season and is now near 30. What a injury riddled season will do.

 

[fsufan]

For leagues that play TEs as the same position as WRs, I would rank Gates around 10-12.

For these types of leagues (4 of my 5 league do this), Gates is a solid #2 WR/TE.

 

[fsufan]

Why the huge drop off for Joe Horn?

The guy was in the top 10s at the beginning of this past season and is now near 30. What a injury riddled season will do.

I think Horn will be a steal in redraft league. Maybe not a #1 WR but a solid #2.

 

[Shermanator]

I love lists, but even more, I love to see Larry Fitzgerald in the TWELVE slot on a list!!  Youve got to be kidding me....and would you please join my league in my division and play me 3 times next year???  Thats too funny.

Whats funnier is Andre Johnson at 8

Whats funniest is Moose at 13. So ranking him at 13, if you had your choice of WR's outside of the 1st 12 (to be your #2 in a standard 12-team league), would you seriously take Muhammad?? I'd be surprised if Muhammad ever 1) broke 1,000 yards again, 2) is the #1 WR in Chicago by the end of next season.

Actually if Grossman can stay healthy, this ranking is accurate IMO. Muhammad can put up solid #2 numbers with a somewhat competent qb. And Grossman is at least that.

 

[-OZ-]

Whats funniest is Moose at 13.

So ranking him at 13, if you had your choice of WR's outside of the 1st 12 (to be your #2 in a standard 12-team league), would you seriously take Muhammad?? I'd be surprised if Muhammad ever 1) broke 1,000 yards again, 2) is the #1 WR in Chicago by the end of next season.

Actually if Grossman can stay healthy, this ranking is accurate IMO. Muhammad can put up solid #2 numbers with a somewhat competent qb. And Grossman is at least that.

I won't argue against the projection, but Moose has had 3 years in his 10 year career where he was a good starter in FF. 2004 was a career year due to circumstances.In order to reasonably consider Moose as a top 15 WR, you're projecting either Rex to stay healthy or Orton to improve, and the Bears D to give up leads, requiring the offense to throw more. I just don't see it, others may.

 

[Bri]

In order to reasonably consider Moose as a top 15 WR,

Often times I think in 12s. IMO he's saying Moose would be one of the top #2 WRs on a team in his league. Still high but if it's an FF league in Chicago drinking some Moose flavored KoolAid...to each his own I guess. Similarly in your rankings I don't think Matt Jones is a #2 in FF. He may be next year but he's not considerred that yet. You could make him your #25 WR(first #3) and still get him. Also, the beauty of liking a guy like him is that you can "blow off" any impressive plays he does in preseason and say "yeah I've seen that before" and keep his draft value low.

 

[John 14:6]

Nobody ever agrees or gets these right anyway, so I'll chime in

This is a really good breakdown, OZ.

IMO setting tiers is and drafting by them is more important than ranking players at every single spot. As OZ mentioned, preseason rankings rarely match postseason rankings.

 

[Two Deep]

Nobody ever agrees or gets these right anyway, so I'll chime in

You could list these 6 in any order

1. Chad Johnson

2. Randy Moss

3. Steve Smith

4. TO

5. Larry Fitzgerald

6. Torry Holt

Consistant studs, good as a #1 WR for any FF team

7. Marvin Harrison

8. Hines Ward

9. Darrell Jackson

10. Plaxico Burress

11. Reggie Wayne

12. Anquan Boldin

A bit risky, but stud potential

13. Chris Chambers

14. Roy Williams

15. Javon Walker

16. Lee Evans

17. Santana Moss

18. Matt Jones

Great #2, but either inconsistent or I have questions

19. Jerry Porter

20. Andre Johnson

21. Lav Coles

22. Terry Glenn

23. Deion Branch

24. Rod Smith

25. Micheal Clayton

26. Eddie Kennison

27. Nate Burleson

28. Joe Horn

Might be good values, or overpriced.

29. Reggie Brown

30. Brandon Lloyd

How is Chambers risky? The guy has scored 29 TDs in the last three years with virtually no quarterback. He deserves to be in the top ten on any list.

 

[-OZ-]

A bit risky, but stud potential

13. Chris Chambers

How is Chambers risky? The guy has scored 29 TDs in the last three years with virtually no quarterback. He deserves to be in the top ten on any list.

I know he did great with Gus, and pretty well before him, but show me who his QB is before saying he has no risk. Keep in mind, he got 460 of his 1118 yards in 3 games. and 6 of his 11 TDs in 4. For a month, he was an extremely hot player, but before 11/27, he didn't have a 100 yard game all season.

I obviously like his talent, but acknowledge the risk. Granted, there's less risk with him than the others in the tier, and arguably no more so than with Plaxico.

 

[LBH]

1.S.Smith

2.T.Holt

3.C.Johnson

4.TO

5.R.Moss

6.L.Fitzgerald

7.M.Harrison

8.A.Boldin

9.H.Ward

10.R.Wayne

11.Djax

12.C.Chambers

13.S.Moss

14.R.Smith

15.J.Smith

16.P.Burress

17.J.Galloway

18.RoyWilliams

19.J.Horn

20.D.Branch

just off the top of my head

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Tier 1

These are the only guys who have put up top numbers, game in and game out the last 3+ years.

Torry Holt

Chad Johnson

Terrell Owens

Marvin Harrison

That's it. Fin. The end.

Tier 2

These are guys who are just short of qualifying for tier 1 (2 years) or put up numbers so good they can't be ignored or are a picture of consistency near the bottom of the top 12 (or slightly outside of it).

Anquan Boldin

Larry Fitzgerald

Steve Smith

Santana Moss

Donald Driver

Hines Ward

Darrell Jackson

Rod Smith

Javon Walker

Tier 3

Guys who had bounceback/breakout years but we aren't 100% sure about yet, guys who were good two years ago looking to bounce back, vets who used to be tier 2 or 3 but are falling and vets who are solid but unspectacular.

Joey Galloway

Terry Glenn

Chris Chambers

Eddie Kennison

Jimmy Smith

Reggie Wayne

Donte Stallworth

Derrick Mason

Antonio Bryant

Andre Johnson

Michael Clayton

Ashley Lelie

TJ Houshmanzadeh

Isaac Bruce

Keenan McCardell

Laveraneus Coles

Nate Burleson

Tier 4

Rising stars, vets on their last legs or guys who this is about as good as they will ever be

Lee Evans

Donte Stallworth

Deion Branch

Jerry Porter

Brandon Lloyd

Eric Moulds

Keyshawn Johnson

Tier 5

Everyone else

I'm sure I missed a few names. Oh well.

 

[Mister CIA]

Wide Receivers

43. Samie Parker

46. Earnest Wilford

48. Mark Clayton

57. Nate Burleson

62. Arnaz Battle

72. Drew Carter

These are guys I may be looking at in redrafts next year. Long live the stud running back theory! .... along with the "Antonio Gates" theory.

 

[Two Deep]

Tier 1

These are the only guys who have put up top numbers, game in and game out the last 3+ years.

Torry Holt

Chad Johnson

Terrell Owens

Marvin Harrison

That's it. Fin. The end.

Tier 2

These are guys who are just short of qualifying for tier 1 (2 years) or put up numbers so good they can't be ignored or are a picture of consistency near the bottom of the top 12 (or slightly outside of it).

Anquan Boldin

Larry Fitzgerald

Steve Smith

Santana Moss

Donald Driver

Hines Ward

Darrell Jackson

Rod Smith

Javon Walker

Tier 3

Guys who had bounceback/breakout years but we aren't 100% sure about yet, guys who were good two years ago looking to bounce back, vets who used to be tier 2 or 3 but are falling and vets who are solid but unspectacular.

Joey Galloway

Terry Glenn

Chris Chambers

Eddie Kennison

Jimmy Smith

Reggie Wayne

Donte Stallworth

Derrick Mason

Antonio Bryant

Andre Johnson

Michael Clayton

Ashley Lelie

TJ Houshmanzadeh

Isaac Bruce

Keenan McCardell

Laveraneus Coles

Nate Burleson

Tier 4

Rising stars, vets on their last legs or guys who this is about as good as they will ever be

Lee Evans

Donte Stallworth

Deion Branch

Jerry Porter

Brandon Lloyd

Eric Moulds

Keyshawn Johnson

Tier 5

Everyone else

I'm sure I missed a few names. Oh well.

Like Randy Moss

 

[Islander]

Thanks for the lists guys

Here is the consensus so far based on rankings from UnknownCoach, mueller54, Crippler, DoctorDetroit, harrycarey, -OZ-, Little Big Head, and myself. I also included the order in which WRs were drafted in WSL1and WSL2.

Two more ranking lists not in this thread: USA Todayand LHUCKS.

So in total that's 12 lists - not bad at all.

1 Chad Johnson

2 Steve Smith

3 Torry Holt

4 Larry Fitzgerald

5 Randy Moss

6 Marvin Harrison

7 Anquan Boldin

8 Terrell Owens

9 Hines Ward

10 Darrell Jackson

11 Reggie Wayne

12 Chris Chambers

13 Santana Moss

14 Plaxico Burress

15 Javon Walker

16 Roy Williams

17 Andre Johnson

18 Joey Galloway

19 Deion Branch

20 T.J. Houshmandzadeh

21 Derrick Mason

22 Rod Smith

23 Lee Evans

24 Donald Driver

25 Terry Glenn

26 Jerry Porter

27 Joe Horn

28 Laveranues Coles

29 Eddie Kennison

30 Donté Stallworth

 

[Team Legacy]

[quote name=-OZ-

A bit risky' date=' but stud potential

13. Chris Chambers

14. Roy Williams

15. Javon Walker

16. Lee Evans

17. Santana Moss

18. Matt Jones

I was thinking the same thing...

 

[weasel3515]

Nobody ever agrees or gets these right anyway, so I'll chime in

You could list these 6 in any order

1. Chad Johnson

2. Randy Moss

3. Steve Smith

4. TO

5. Larry Fitzgerald

6. Torry Holt

Consistant studs, good as a #1 WR for any FF team

7. Marvin Harrison

8. Hines Ward

9. Darrell Jackson

10. Plaxico Burress

11. Reggie Wayne

12. Anquan Boldin

A bit risky, but stud potential

13. Chris Chambers

14. Roy Williams

15. Javon Walker

16. Lee Evans

17. Santana Moss

18. Matt Jones

Great #2, but either inconsistent or I have questions

19. Jerry Porter

20. Andre Johnson

21. Lav Coles

22. Terry Glenn

23. Deion Branch

24. Rod Smith

25. Micheal Clayton

26. Eddie Kennison

27. Nate Burleson

28. Joe Horn

Might be good values, or overpriced.

29. Reggie Brown

30. Brandon Lloyd

Nice breakdown. I would substitute Andre Johnson for Matt Jones however. If Miami can somehow pry Matt Shaub from Atlanta Chambers will definitely be in the second highest category IMO.

 

[-OZ-]

Nice breakdown. I would substitute Andre Johnson for Matt Jones however. If Miami can somehow pry Matt Shaub from Atlanta Chambers will definitely be in the second highest category IMO.

Thanks, and you're right (to a degree). I will bump AJ up to #19 and include him in the same tier.

 

[cscmtp]

why no love for Roy Williams? Martz is coming to town, and he's got a couple of years under his belt...

 

[UnknownCoach]

7 Roy Williams

 

[glock]

I notice Randy Moss still firmly entrenched in the top 5 here so far in spite of the all the surrounding the Raiders 2006 QB. If Brooks is at the helm is he still a definitive top 5?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I notice Randy Moss still firmly entrenched in the top 5 here so far in spite of the all the surrounding the Raiders 2006 QB. If Brooks is at the helm is he still a definitive top 5?

I know it's a not a popular belief but I think Randy's days as a dominate FFL WR are over. He's not in my top 5

 

[Q-Bert]

1. S. Smith

2. T. Holt

3. T. Owens

4. R. Moss

5. L. Fitzgerald

6. M. Harrison

7. A. Boldin

8. C. Johnson

9. D. Jackson

10. S. Moss

11. R. Williams

12. P. Burress

13. H. Ward

14. C. Chambers

15. R. Wayne

16. A. Johnson

17. D. Stallworth

18. D. Branch

19. J. Galloway

20. L. Evans

21. J. Horn

22. Michael Clayton

23. T. J. Housh

24. D. Mason

25. R. Smith

26. R. Brown

27. M. Jones

28. D. Givens

29. J. Porter

30. L. Coles

31. D. Driver

32. J. Walker

33. J. Smith

34. T. Glenn

35. K. Robinson

36. E. Kennison

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

Top 10

1. Chad Johnson (I see top 2 interchangable)

2. Steve Smith

3. Terrell Owens

4. Torry Holt

5. Larry Fitzgerald

6. Randy Moss

7. Anquan Boldin

8. Derrell Jackson

9. Chris Chambers

10. Hines Ward

Just missed: Santana Moss, Plaxico Burress, Reggie Wayne, Joe Horn

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

My dynasty rankings.

C.Johnson

T.Holt

T.Owens

A.Boldin

S.Smith

L.Fitzgerald

D.Jackson

C.Chambers

R.Moss

R.Wayne

H.Ward

M.Harrison

Roy Williams

A.Johnson

P.Burress

S.Moss

J.Walker

TJ Houshmanzedah

those are my top dynasty wr's.

 

[Bri]

I notice Randy Moss still firmly entrenched in the top 5 here so far in spite of the all the    surrounding the Raiders 2006 QB. If Brooks is at the helm is he still a definitive top 5?

I know it's a not a popular belief but I think Randy's days as a dominate FFL WR are over. He's not in my top 5

care to elaborate?

 

[fsufan]

I notice Randy Moss still firmly entrenched in the top 5 here so far in spite of the all the    surrounding the Raiders 2006 QB. If Brooks is at the helm is he still a definitive top 5?

I know it's a not a popular belief but I think Randy's days as a dominate FFL WR are over. He's not in my top 5

care to elaborate?

maybe Moss does need Culpepper

 

[joffer]

1. Anquan Boldin

2. Chad Johnson

3. Torry Holt

4. Steve Smith

5. Larry Fitzgerald

6. Santana Moss

7. Darrell Jackson

8. Marvin Harrison

9. Randy Moss

10. Reggie Wayne

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I notice Randy Moss still firmly entrenched in the top 5 here so far in spite of the all the    surrounding the Raiders 2006 QB. If Brooks is at the helm is he still a definitive top 5?

I know it's a not a popular belief but I think Randy's days as a dominate FFL WR are over. He's not in my top 5

care to elaborate?

Sure,He seem to be injury prone the last few years and even when he is healty he takes alot of plays off. Looks to me like his heart hasn't been in it the last two years at all. If his QB is Brooks he might be able to crack the top 10, but if Oak does not upgrade the QB position at all........geez

 

[cstu]

quote=SoloMatisse,Feb 12 2006, 10:08 PM

Great #2, but either inconsistent or I have questions

Might be good values, or overpriced.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is a really good breakdown, OZ. Question...where do you see Koren Robinson falling into these forecasts? Is he in the 25-35 range or 45-55? Imo, if he continues to tighten up and fly straight, he could be a steal at many drafts next year, pending which team he signs with and in what role. Got him as a keeper and I need a #2 to go with Larry, so maybe Im reaching.

Thanks. I had written K-Rob in under both of these categories, but in the end opted to put him lower, and leave him off. If I had gone deeper, probably 31-40 range.

quote=slimflop,Feb 12 2006, 10:19 PM

quote=-OZ-

A bit risky, but stud potential

18. Matt Jones

Is the a question, your commentary that I have him too high, or echoing my original at his potential?

Both. He's too high (one tier lower with the rest of those type guys) and he has too many competing WR's on the team.

 

[cstu]

I notice Randy Moss still firmly entrenched in the top 5 here so far in spite of the all the surrounding the Raiders 2006 QB. If Brooks is at the helm is he still a definitive top 5?

I know it's a not a popular belief but I think Randy's days as a dominate FFL WR are over. He's not in my top 5

care to elaborate?

Sure,He seem to be injury prone the last few years and even when he is healty he takes alot of plays off. Looks to me like his heart hasn't been in it the last two years at all. If his QB is Brooks he might be able to crack the top 10, but if Oak does not upgrade the QB position at all........geez

I look at it this way - Joe Horn was never worse than 14 with Brooks as QB from 2000-2004. Moss was 15th last year despite terrible play by Collins. Brooks is an upgrade over Collins and Moss is coming into his 2nd year with the Raiders and is still only 29. Moss will be a huge value in 2006 if he drops past WR6.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Is 14th or 15th elite top 5??? not to me.

my current WR rankings:

1- Holt

2- S.Smith

3-ChadJ

4- TO

5- Fitz

6- Marv

7- D.Jax

8 -Boldin

9 - R.Moss

10 -Wayne

11- S.Moss

12- Plaxico

13 - Chambers

14 - Ward

15 -Galloway

16- TJ Hous

17- Walker

18- R.Smith

19 -Kennison

20 -Driver

21 -Horn

22 -Roy Will

23 -Mason

24 -Branch

 

[crimsonrebel]

1. chad johnson

2. steve smith

3. TO

4. Torry Holt

5. randy moss

6. santana moss

7. darrell jackson

8. hines ward

9. larry fitzgerald

10. reggie waynre

11. chris chambers

12. marvin harrison

13. dieon branch

14. plaxico burress

15. javon walker

16. dante stallworth

17. anquan boldin

18. roy williams

19. joe horn

20. andre johnson

21. joey galloway

22. donald driver

23. derrick mason

24. nate burleson

25. rod smith

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

I notice Randy Moss still firmly entrenched in the top 5 here so far in spite of the all the surrounding the Raiders 2006 QB. If Brooks is at the helm is he still a definitive top 5?

I know it's a not a popular belief but I think Randy's days as a dominate FFL WR are over. He's not in my top 5

I actually said this to a good Vikings friend of mine at the end of the 2004 season.Based on things he's said before, it seems he has poor workout habits and that combined with his age/size is finally catching up with him.

I'd still put him in tier two though.