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2007 Steelers Head Coach Ken Whisenhunt (1 Viewer)
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DrunkinDwarf
Footballguy
Maybe ... or maybe Cowher is back next year ... or maybe the Steelers hire Russ Grimm .. or maybe Wisenhunt leaves and goes somewhere else ...
Let's just wait and see what Cowher decides. We are already talking about next year before this one even starts!
Let's just wait and see what Cowher decides. We are already talking about next year before this one even starts!
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CrossEyed
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Wouldn't surprise me if it worked out that way, but I highly doubt that the Rooneys have already committed to Whisenhunt. The reason he didn't take any jobs this winter is that the only one that was left for him to interview for after SBXL was Oakland. And apparently Whis is smart enough to not work for Al Davis.Mimo said:Mark it down, with all the talk of Cowher leaving after this year, now we know why Whisenhunt did not take any jobs over the winter. He will be the coach after this season. Just ask Jerome Bettis.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
If Cowher leaves -- I agree Wis is the man.
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MLBrandow
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IBT "Whissinator in '07" post
TheLaw
Footballguy
would be a big slap in the face to Russ Grimm though.
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CrossEyed
Guest
How so?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Cowher's no dummy...this team was lucky and I do mean lucky to accomplish what they did after starting 7-5 last season. On offense they are going to have challenges, the defense is good as always...they will be lucky to go 9-7 or 10-6 this season.
He probably wishes he had retired after the SB but it's nice to parade around the NFL as Champs so he might as well enjoy it.
He probably wishes he had retired after the SB but it's nice to parade around the NFL as Champs so he might as well enjoy it.
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CrossEyed
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videoguy505
Footballguy
Haven't seen this come over the ticker, what are your sources? This is big news if true, I'm surprised ESPN dropped the ball reporting it!
Oh, I see.
BREAKING NEWS: RICKY WILLIAMS #1 2007!
jetpack
Footballguy
Uhm, okay, I'm sure he'll take 16-2 and 15-5 with a Superbowl Victory as "lucky" the last two years. As a fan I do.
So, what's it take to be good in your book?
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
They were a much better team when Bettis was younger and they had more weapons at WR. Just my opinion...when a team is 7-5, I just don't think that speaks well if they go on and win the SB...maybe its just the way the NFL is now and your right, the Steelers are the best. I didn't say a bad word about them when they won the SB, it's a new year and as far I'm concerned they are fair game now. You guys won SB before with vastly better teams. i rate the 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers extremely low on SB champions list. I would say the other 3 NE SB teams were better than the Steelers...they were almost the worst to ever take a title.Just an opinion, I'm entitled.
Uhm, okay, I'm sure he'll take 16-2 and 15-5 with a Superbowl Victory as "lucky" the last two years. As a fan I do.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Contract talks End
I don't like the way they are saying this. Instead of saying we are ENDING contract talks, what about just telling the media we will work this out with BC after the season and not another word about it. He is honoring the contract for now and we will work something agreeable to everyone later.
This to me is just a distraction now. Even when Shula walked away(fired), there was no talk about contracts and what not.
What if the Steelers had made a contract for him that he could get out of after this season..something to not make a circus out of this which it will become.
"Cowher's last game in Paul Brown Stadium" and all that sillyness.
I don't like the way they are saying this. Instead of saying we are ENDING contract talks, what about just telling the media we will work this out with BC after the season and not another word about it. He is honoring the contract for now and we will work something agreeable to everyone later.
This to me is just a distraction now. Even when Shula walked away(fired), there was no talk about contracts and what not.
What if the Steelers had made a contract for him that he could get out of after this season..something to not make a circus out of this which it will become.
"Cowher's last game in Paul Brown Stadium" and all that sillyness.
simey
Footballguy
The Steelers lost 3 straight games last year (one that big ben didn't even play in), but then they won eight in a row after that. Also in the playoffs they played 3 straight road games. It isn't easy playing in someone elses house. They also beat the Colts in the playoffs, and the Colts were on the verge of having a undeafeted season until they finally lost a game. If the Colts had won, would you be saying the Colts were one of the best teams to ever make it to the Super Bowl? The Steelers beat the doodoo out of Broncos in the AFC Championship. I don't understand your reasoning of them not being a worthy Super Bowl team, all because at one point last season they were 7-5.
TD32
Footballguy
I think it has something to do with what Collinsworth said. If not for the dirty hit on Palmer, Bettis career would have ended in Cincy. I know you Steeler fans dont agree, but the rest of the football world does!
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Rest of the football world? Maybe the small portion of it that resides in Cincinatti.
Unless Carson Palmer started playing defense, the Bengals lose that game anyway. Their defense reverted to the "wet paper bag" variety by halftime. FYI: John Kitna played well after Palmer was hurt. The Bengals offene wasn't the problem. Palmer may have made it closer, but they'd have still lost with the steamer their defense left on th field.
Unless Carson Palmer started playing defense, the Bengals lose that game anyway. Their defense reverted to the "wet paper bag" variety by halftime. FYI: John Kitna played well after Palmer was hurt. The Bengals offene wasn't the problem. Palmer may have made it closer, but they'd have still lost with the steamer their defense left on th field.
TD32
Footballguy
You make a good point. I mean that game in Pitt, where Cincinnatis "wet paper bag defense" gave up 31 points!!! To bad Carson hung 38 on you!
simey
Footballguy
I'm not a Steelers fan, and I also recall the Bengals beat the Steelers once in the regular season last year (38-31), and the Steelers beat the Bengals once in the regular season last year (27-13). Had Palmer not gotten hurt, both teams were good enough to win that game.I think it has something to do with what Collinsworth said. If not for the dirty hit on Palmer, Bettis career would have ended in Cincy. I know you Steeler fans dont agree, but the rest of the football world does!
TD32
Footballguy
I'm not a Steelers fan, and I also recall the Bengals beat the Steelers once in the regular season last year (38-31), and the Steelers beat the Bengals once in the regular season last year (27-13). Had Palmer not gotten hurt, both teams were good enough to win that game.I think it has something to do with what Collinsworth said. If not for the dirty hit on Palmer, Bettis career would have ended in Cincy. I know you Steeler fans dont agree, but the rest of the football world does!
And i bet you dont even live in Cincy. Everyone knows Cincy had a heck of a chance of winning that game with Palmer, except Steelers fans. And so it goes....
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Hey TD.My thing has nothing to do with them beating Cinci, Indy, Denver, or Seattle...one of the reasons I didn't pile on when they won the SB was the fact they did what they had to do...doesn't mean I think much of them in terms of SB victories. There are at least 4 SB winners form the same team, 4 or 5 from Dallas, 5 from SF, 2 from Miami, 2 from Washington, 3 from GB, all of them were much better teams...IMO.The Palmer thing is a non issue to me...they still might have beaten the Bengals.I think it has something to do with what Collinsworth said. If not for the dirty hit on Palmer, Bettis career would have ended in Cincy. I know you Steeler fans dont agree, but the rest of the football world does!
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CrossEyed
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It's amazing how many people have crystal balls at their disposal. If I recall correctly, the Bengals offense started out the game at Cincy in the regular season on fire, only to have the Steelers make the needed adjustments and beat the Bengals without much trouble. Just because Palmer started out hot in the playoff game was no guarantee that it was going to continue all game.Edited to add: And not even the Bengal players, after reviewing the film, were still calling Kimo's hit "dirty".I think it has something to do with what Collinsworth said. If not for the dirty hit on Palmer, Bettis career would have ended in Cincy. I know you Steeler fans dont agree, but the rest of the football world does!
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TD32
Footballguy
Hey TD.
My thing has nothing to do with them beating Cinci, Indy, Denver, or Seattle...one of the reasons I didn't pile on when they won the SB was the fact they did what they had to do...doesn't mean I think much of them in terms of SB victories. There are at least 4 SB winners form the same team, 4 or 5 from Dallas, 5 from SF, 2 from Miami, 2 from Washington, 3 from GB, all of them were much better teams...IMO.
The Palmer thing is a non issue to me...they still might have beaten the Bengals.
Hello sir. I agree with you 110% percent. I hate Pittsburgh with a passion, Im not gonna lie. Was what they did last year impressive, no doubt. It just kills me that 99.9% of Steeler fans think us losing Palmer made no difference in the game. But until Pittsburgh and their fans realize the football world does not revolve around them, its kinda like
My thing has nothing to do with them beating Cinci, Indy, Denver, or Seattle...one of the reasons I didn't pile on when they won the SB was the fact they did what they had to do...doesn't mean I think much of them in terms of SB victories. There are at least 4 SB winners form the same team, 4 or 5 from Dallas, 5 from SF, 2 from Miami, 2 from Washington, 3 from GB, all of them were much better teams...IMO.
The Palmer thing is a non issue to me...they still might have beaten the Bengals.
Hello sir. I agree with you 110% percent. I hate Pittsburgh with a passion, Im not gonna lie. Was what they did last year impressive, no doubt. It just kills me that 99.9% of Steeler fans think us losing Palmer made no difference in the game. But until Pittsburgh and their fans realize the football world does not revolve around them, its kinda like
TD32
Footballguy
We can debate the dirty hit forever. And I agree, just because Palmer started the game off hot, doesnt mean it would continue all game. My point is just this. To not agree that if we had Palmer the entire game, it would have been a much different game and COULD have had a different ending, is crazy. My 2 cents.It's amazing how many people have crystal balls at their disposal. If I recall correctly, the Bengals offense started out the game at Cincy in the regular season on fire, only to have the Steelers make the needed adjustments and beat the Bengals without much trouble. Just because Palmer started out hot in the playoff game was no guarantee that it was going to continue all game.Edited to add: And not even the Bengal players, after reviewing the film, were still calling Kimo's hit "dirty".I think it has something to do with what Collinsworth said. If not for the dirty hit on Palmer, Bettis career would have ended in Cincy. I know you Steeler fans dont agree, but the rest of the football world does!
cheeseypoof
Footballguy
Hello sir. I agree with you 110% percent. I hate Pittsburgh with a passion, Im not gonna lie. Was what they did last year impressive, no doubt. It just kills me that 99.9% of Steeler fans think us losing Palmer made no difference in the game. But until Pittsburgh and their fans realize the football world does not revolve around them, its kinda like
The few Steeler fans that I know personally make this posting ring true.
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CrossEyed
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Would it have been a different game? No question. Would the results have been different? Nobody will ever know. The fact is that Kitna came in and the Cincy offense continued to click. The problem was that your defense couldn't get the job done. That had nothing to do with Palmer.
TD32
Footballguy
I agree with you on everything but 1 part. The offense looked ok until halftime. And yes, the Steelers made adjustments at the half, and Kitna looked like a lost puppy in the 2nd half. I was at the game, you might have been to. Kitna made Maddox look like a Pro Bowler in the 2nd half. No, our defense couldnt get it done, but with Palmer, it might have been enough. Ill give you a 
though, you seem to talk with some sense, something a lot of Steeler fans lack. Good talking to you.
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CrossEyed
Guest
Thanks, you too. See, cats and dogs can live together in harmony.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
So a thread about Cowher leaving, and we're back to bitter Cinci playing "but what if..." 
Keep it up. It's entertaining that you can't let it go.
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Keep it up. It's entertaining that you can't let it go.
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TD32
Footballguy
Your in that 99.9% for sure. Keep it up. It's entertaining to all the non Steeler fans. We Dey!So a thread about Cowher leaving, and we're back to bitter Cinci playing "but what if..."
Keep it up. It's entertaining that you can't let it go.
We Dey!
We Dey need no helmet!
Just go celebrate with her, you guys deserve it!
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The Jerk
Footballguy
So a thread about Cowher leaving, and we're back to bitter Cinci playing "but what if..."
Quality stuff through and through. Backed up by foolproof logic and hard core analysis. Actually, it's impressive that it's been accomplished without BGP and Peyton Marino!If Bengal fans can keep regurgitating the same old argument, I can refute it with the same old reply.To those Bengal fans still maintaining how obvious it was that the Bengals were a better team than the Steelers and that Palmer's injury was the only thing preventing them from similar post-season success:Roethlisberger missed four complete games and played at less than 100% in several others, while no comparable injury happened to the Bengals (until the playoffs). Yet they finish with the same regular season record even though the Bengals had the benefit of an easier schedule.But let's not stop there. Look at the Bengals 2005 season as a whole:8-1 record against teams 6-10 or worse (lost to Buffalo in Week 16 at home)3-4 record against teams 9-7 or betterBreak down those three wins vs. winning teams:Week 2 Minnesota HOME when the Vikings were in complete disarrayWeek 3 Chicago AWAY well before the Bears put their season together (recall that the Bears started 1-3 and lost to the Browns the week after losing to the Bengals)Week 13 Pittsburgh AWAY with Roethlisberger recovering from surgery and before the Steelers got on their Super Bowl run (Steelers record was 7-5 after this game). Dnn't forget that in that game the Bengals were outgained 474-324 in yards and had a 4-0 turnover advantage.You might compare this to the Steelers 8-4 record against winning teams, including victories at Indianapolis, at Denver, at Cincinnati twice, at San Diego, and at Minnesota.As Bengal fans, you should believe in your heart that the Bengals were an injury away from greatness. However, with your mind you may need to acknowledge that the facts listed above speak otherwise.
The Jerk
Footballguy
Collinsworth is especially qualified to comment on the projected outcome of the game given his complete lack of bias.I think it has something to do with what Collinsworth said. If not for the dirty hit on Palmer, Bettis career would have ended in Cincy. I know you Steeler fans dont agree, but the rest of the football world does!
Pittsburgh United
Footballguy
I think it's so funny to hear a Cincy fan say they hate the Steelers with a passion. You and your consistently sub-500 team are and always have been completely irrelevant to us. Forever. The fact is you are not a rival of ours, nor will you ever be. Your town gets so fired up for a Steeler game, but for us, the Bungles are simply two easy wins each year. For years, there were far more Steeler fans in your stadium than there were Bungle fans. Now you guys have an anomolous good season or two and suddenly you think you're part of the divisional mix. Wake up, my friend. Your franchise has the distinction of being one of the worst franchises EVER in the NFL. EVER. Ours, in contrast, is legendary and respected from coast to coast, era to era. We have five superbowl trophies. You guys have had five winning seasons in the last quarter-century. Think about that for a minute.....Now go eat some chili on spaghetti with your fellow backwood Kentucky Appalachians and discuss what your blonde-mohawk-wearing, showboat WR will do to celebrate his next touchdown. Oooohh now that's entertaining.PS - Marvin Lewis is overrated.Hello sir. I agree with you 110% percent. I hate Pittsburgh with a passion, Im not gonna lie. Was what they did last year impressive, no doubt. It just kills me that 99.9% of Steeler fans think us losing Palmer made no difference in the game. But until Pittsburgh and their fans realize the football world does not revolve around them, its kinda like
The Jerk
Footballguy
Bengal fans = class and grammar/punctuationYour in that 99.9% for sure. Keep it up. It's entertaining to all the non Steeler fans. We Dey!So a thread about Cowher leaving, and we're back to bitter Cinci playing "but what if..."
Keep it up. It's entertaining that you can't let it go.
We Dey!
We Dey need no helmet!
The Jerk
Footballguy
Settle down, PU! You've got to turn down the tool factor here. The Steelers deserve better than that kind of posting. Be above talking like the Bengal fans wishing injury on Roethlisberger, etc. The numbers speak for themselves. Stick to that and there's no need to be a tool. This isn't the way it's done here in the FBG forums.I think it's so funny to hear a Cincy fan say they hate the Steelers with a passion. You and your consistently sub-500 team are and always have been completely irrelevant to us. Forever. The fact is you are not a rival of ours, nor will you ever be. Your town gets so fired up for a Steeler game, but for us, the Bungles are simply two easy wins each year. For years, there were far more Steeler fans in your stadium than there were Bungle fans. Now you guys have an anomolous good season or two and suddenly you think you're part of the divisional mix. Wake up, my friend. Your franchise has the distinction of being one of the worst franchises EVER in the NFL. EVER. Ours, in contrast, is legendary and respected from coast to coast, era to era. We have five superbowl trophies. You guys have had five winning seasons in the last quarter-century. Think about that for a minute.....Now go eat some chili on spaghetti with your fellow backwood Kentucky Appalachians and discuss what your blonde-mohawk-wearing, showboat WR will do to celebrate his next touchdown. Oooohh now that's entertaining.PS - Marvin Lewis is overrated.Hello sir. I agree with you 110% percent. I hate Pittsburgh with a passion, Im not gonna lie. Was what they did last year impressive, no doubt. It just kills me that 99.9% of Steeler fans think us losing Palmer made no difference in the game. But until Pittsburgh and their fans realize the football world does not revolve around them, its kinda like
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CrossEyed
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Agreed. As the great Sam Wyche would say, "You don't live in Cleveland." So stop acting like it.Settle down, PU! You've got to turn down the tool factor here. The Steelers deserve better than that kind of posting. Be above talking like the Bengal fans wishing injury on Roethlisberger, etc. The numbers speak for themselves. Stick to that and there's no need to be a tool. This isn't the way it's done here in the FBG forums.I think it's so funny to hear a Cincy fan say they hate the Steelers with a passion. You and your consistently sub-500 team are and always have been completely irrelevant to us. Forever. The fact is you are not a rival of ours, nor will you ever be. Your town gets so fired up for a Steeler game, but for us, the Bungles are simply two easy wins each year. For years, there were far more Steeler fans in your stadium than there were Bungle fans. Now you guys have an anomolous good season or two and suddenly you think you're part of the divisional mix. Wake up, my friend. Your franchise has the distinction of being one of the worst franchises EVER in the NFL. EVER. Ours, in contrast, is legendary and respected from coast to coast, era to era. We have five superbowl trophies. You guys have had five winning seasons in the last quarter-century. Think about that for a minute.....Now go eat some chili on spaghetti with your fellow backwood Kentucky Appalachians and discuss what your blonde-mohawk-wearing, showboat WR will do to celebrate his next touchdown. Oooohh now that's entertaining.PS - Marvin Lewis is overrated.Hello sir. I agree with you 110% percent. I hate Pittsburgh with a passion, Im not gonna lie. Was what they did last year impressive, no doubt. It just kills me that 99.9% of Steeler fans think us losing Palmer made no difference in the game. But until Pittsburgh and their fans realize the football world does not revolve around them, its kinda like
TD32
Footballguy
Agreed. As the great Sam Wyche would say, "You don't live in Cleveland." So stop acting like it.Settle down, PU! You've got to turn down the tool factor here. The Steelers deserve better than that kind of posting. Be above talking like the Bengal fans wishing injury on Roethlisberger, etc. The numbers speak for themselves. Stick to that and there's no need to be a tool. This isn't the way it's done here in the FBG forums.I think it's so funny to hear a Cincy fan say they hate the Steelers with a passion. You and your consistently sub-500 team are and always have been completely irrelevant to us. Forever. The fact is you are not a rival of ours, nor will you ever be. Your town gets so fired up for a Steeler game, but for us, the Bungles are simply two easy wins each year. For years, there were far more Steeler fans in your stadium than there were Bungle fans. Now you guys have an anomolous good season or two and suddenly you think you're part of the divisional mix. Wake up, my friend. Your franchise has the distinction of being one of the worst franchises EVER in the NFL. EVER. Ours, in contrast, is legendary and respected from coast to coast, era to era. We have five superbowl trophies. You guys have had five winning seasons in the last quarter-century. Think about that for a minute.....Hello sir. I agree with you 110% percent. I hate Pittsburgh with a passion, Im not gonna lie. Was what they did last year impressive, no doubt. It just kills me that 99.9% of Steeler fans think us losing Palmer made no difference in the game. But until Pittsburgh and their fans realize the football world does not revolve around them, its kinda like
Now go eat some chili on spaghetti with your fellow backwood Kentucky Appalachians and discuss what your blonde-mohawk-wearing, showboat WR will do to celebrate his next touchdown. Oooohh now that's entertaining.
PS - Marvin Lewis is overrated.
See CrossEyed, this was what I was saying. You can't talk football with these guys. Everytime I see them post this kind of stuff, this is all I see.... http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/td3...elergeek9yj.jpgI wont waste you guys time anymore in this thread. Have a great season!
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AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
You suck at photoshop.Agreed. As the great Sam Wyche would say, "You don't live in Cleveland." So stop acting like it.Settle down, PU! You've got to turn down the tool factor here. The Steelers deserve better than that kind of posting. Be above talking like the Bengal fans wishing injury on Roethlisberger, etc. The numbers speak for themselves. Stick to that and there's no need to be a tool. This isn't the way it's done here in the FBG forums.I think it's so funny to hear a Cincy fan say they hate the Steelers with a passion. You and your consistently sub-500 team are and always have been completely irrelevant to us. Forever. The fact is you are not a rival of ours, nor will you ever be. Your town gets so fired up for a Steeler game, but for us, the Bungles are simply two easy wins each year. For years, there were far more Steeler fans in your stadium than there were Bungle fans. Now you guys have an anomolous good season or two and suddenly you think you're part of the divisional mix. Wake up, my friend. Your franchise has the distinction of being one of the worst franchises EVER in the NFL. EVER. Ours, in contrast, is legendary and respected from coast to coast, era to era. We have five superbowl trophies. You guys have had five winning seasons in the last quarter-century. Think about that for a minute.....Hello sir. I agree with you 110% percent. I hate Pittsburgh with a passion, Im not gonna lie. Was what they did last year impressive, no doubt. It just kills me that 99.9% of Steeler fans think us losing Palmer made no difference in the game. But until Pittsburgh and their fans realize the football world does not revolve around them, its kinda like
Now go eat some chili on spaghetti with your fellow backwood Kentucky Appalachians and discuss what your blonde-mohawk-wearing, showboat WR will do to celebrate his next touchdown. Oooohh now that's entertaining.
PS - Marvin Lewis is overrated.
I wont waste you guys time anymore in this thread. Have a great season!
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Good Lord if it's not Seahawks fans whining it's Bengals fans. Using their logic if it weren't for the Tuck Rule the Pats wouldn't have a dynasty. If it weren't for Norwide the Bills would have won 4 Super Bowls. Every team gets a bad break or two, the best overcome.
Now back to the topic. I think Whisenhunt is the obvious choice to replace Cowher. I would think Grimm will also get consideration. He'd probably leave the organization if not selected as HC and Bruce Arians would shift to OC. On D LeBeau has the job as long as he wants it and then I'd guess Darren Perry steps in.
Like it or not this team is loaded for the long haul on O and D. Best record in the NFL over the past two seasons (31-7) and many of its' best players are 25 and under:
Roethlisberger
Polamalu
Ike Taylor
Bryant McFadden
Willie Parker
Heath Miller
MOP made the comment that this team doesn't have the WRs it did in Bettis' prime. While it doesn't have a #2 like Plax, their WRs are as deep as they've ever been under Cowher. Ward, Wilson, Washington, Holmes and Morgan are all legit WRs. 3rd rounder Willie Reid will likely be relegated to special teams because of the depth at WR. Throw in Roethlisberger, Heath Miller, Willie Parker and the O-line and I think without question this is the most powerful O that Cowher has ever coached. Probably the Steelers most powerful and diverse offense since 1979.
The defense is just as deep. The Steelers secondary was a huge concern 2-3 years ago and is now a strength. The Steelers have 3 quality CBs (Taylor, McFadden and Townsend) and a 4th that has potential (Coclough). Polamalu mans strong safety and Ryan Clark/Ty Carter will play free safety until promising rookie FS Anthony Smith is ready. OLB has 3 legit players (Porter, Haggans, Harrison). 6 of the 7 starters at DL and LB are under 30 (Aaron Smith just turned 30) and all signed through at least 2007.
Now back to the topic. I think Whisenhunt is the obvious choice to replace Cowher. I would think Grimm will also get consideration. He'd probably leave the organization if not selected as HC and Bruce Arians would shift to OC. On D LeBeau has the job as long as he wants it and then I'd guess Darren Perry steps in.
Like it or not this team is loaded for the long haul on O and D. Best record in the NFL over the past two seasons (31-7) and many of its' best players are 25 and under:
Roethlisberger
Polamalu
Ike Taylor
Bryant McFadden
Willie Parker
Heath Miller
MOP made the comment that this team doesn't have the WRs it did in Bettis' prime. While it doesn't have a #2 like Plax, their WRs are as deep as they've ever been under Cowher. Ward, Wilson, Washington, Holmes and Morgan are all legit WRs. 3rd rounder Willie Reid will likely be relegated to special teams because of the depth at WR. Throw in Roethlisberger, Heath Miller, Willie Parker and the O-line and I think without question this is the most powerful O that Cowher has ever coached. Probably the Steelers most powerful and diverse offense since 1979.
The defense is just as deep. The Steelers secondary was a huge concern 2-3 years ago and is now a strength. The Steelers have 3 quality CBs (Taylor, McFadden and Townsend) and a 4th that has potential (Coclough). Polamalu mans strong safety and Ryan Clark/Ty Carter will play free safety until promising rookie FS Anthony Smith is ready. OLB has 3 legit players (Porter, Haggans, Harrison). 6 of the 7 starters at DL and LB are under 30 (Aaron Smith just turned 30) and all signed through at least 2007.
The Jerk
Footballguy
All true, but salary cap concerns will prevent all of these young players from remaining in black and gold. The obvious leader in that category is Ike Taylor, but Willie Parker may also price himself out of Rooney Range. Still, the Steelers are well-positioned to be contenders through the end of this decade, and they're smart enough to be selective about who will get the biggest contracts (namely, Ben and Troy of that list).
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
I'd be suprised if Ike isn't signed before the season. He was interviewed by Joe Bendel today and said he has told his agent to get something done he wants to be a Steeler. Parker is with the team likely through 2007 (restricted FA next year), I'd say he's less of a priority at this point. Their big guys next year will likely be Polamalu and Roethlisberger.
The Jerk
Footballguy
This could be legitimate desire or it could be good PR. Either way, it means nothing until there's a contract signed. Remember, Randle El had good things to say along those lines...
Steel City
Footballguy
I'm not so sure. I know there is a lot of speculation that Ferentz will be considered but I don't think it will happen unless this team tanks the season and finishes .500 or lower. The hiring of Ferentz would change the entire identity of the team. He'd bring his own philosophy, his own coaches, and it would take the team at least a year or so to adjust to that. I don't think the Rooney's would want to risk that much change with this team. Whisenhunt or Grimm would be much safer options if they feel this team is primed for a couple more Super Bowl runs.
The Jerk
Footballguy
Strongly agree. Why would the Rooneys want to go to the college ranks for a coach when their previous two coaches were NFL assistants and have had great success by any standard? College coaches usually go to teams trying to change their "culture" or build a "program" if you will. I don't see Ferentz at all.
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chris1969
Footballguy
Don't say anything against the Steelers fans! They all team up on ya! LOL, that being said, when's the last time a team won the Super Bowl without a bit of luck? If you look at the top of the AFC last year and it was pick a card, any card.... The only thing that was for certain was that the Colts would choke at some point. Were the Steelers as good of a team last year as years prior? No. But they won the Super Bowl anyway. Why? because they acheived 3 things. They had plenty of talent to start with, they stayed healthy for the most part, and they had a little luck. That's the short version but it's missing a few things like coaching, 110% effort ect...Will Cowher leave? The answer is well uhm maybe. His next decision is a career decision. I know he likes alot of what he's got in Pittsburgh. He is treated well and he knows he's not gonna get fired if they have a few losing seasons, but.... He also knows that this is his big opportunity to cash in. He could sign for that big contract and maybe work a little closer to home and his family as well. Either way he is a great coach and belongs along with Chuck Knoll in Steelers history.Now for some Steeler myths...Is Ben Roethlesbergermeister a great QB? No. He could be in the future but only if he tries to be Tom Brady and not Brett Farve. I really like his decision making though, and I see him as more of the Brady type. I think eventually he'll develop into a multiple Pro-Bowler.Do they have the solid receiving core this year that they've been noted for? No. Look for Hines Ward (One of my favorite recievers) to be double teamed. Heath Miller owners pay attention he could have big upside this year.They are a lock for a Super Bowl yet again. Probably the biggest myth. I find it hard to believe that they are even as good this year as they were last year. I 'll be suprised if Holmes makes it 8 games this year before he has a meltdown. Parker will have to be relied on more this year and while he's the real deal when it comes to break away speed, he is a longshot to stay healthy given his size. Deuce, while not being the bus, is a pretty good replacement. The defense didn't really improve a bit, but the natural improvement of Palmulahmulahmulahmulah may be enough to make teams give up on the pass early. that being said, they will still be near the top of the AFC at the end of the year. But that luck thing can't last forever.
LOL, that being said, when's the last time a team won the Super Bowl without a bit of luck? If you look at the top of the AFC last year and it was pick a card, any card.... The only thing that was for certain was that the Colts would choke at some point. Were the Steelers as good of a team last year as years prior? No. But they won the Super Bowl anyway. Why? because they acheived 3 things. They had plenty of talent to start with, they stayed healthy for the most part, and they had a little luck. That's the short version but it's missing a few things like coaching, 110% effort ect...Will Cowher leave? The answer is well uhm maybe. His next decision is a career decision. I know he likes alot of what he's got in Pittsburgh. He is treated well and he knows he's not gonna get fired if they have a few losing seasons, but.... He also knows that this is his big opportunity to cash in. He could sign for that big contract and maybe work a little closer to home and his family as well. Either way he is a great coach and belongs along with Chuck Knoll in Steelers history.Now for some Steeler myths...Is Ben Roethlesbergermeister a great QB? No. He could be in the future but only if he tries to be Tom Brady and not Brett Farve. I really like his decision making though, and I see him as more of the Brady type. I think eventually he'll develop into a multiple Pro-Bowler.Do they have the solid receiving core this year that they've been noted for? No. Look for Hines Ward (One of my favorite recievers) to be double teamed. Heath Miller owners pay attention he could have big upside this year.They are a lock for a Super Bowl yet again. Probably the biggest myth. I find it hard to believe that they are even as good this year as they were last year. I 'll be suprised if Holmes makes it 8 games this year before he has a meltdown. Parker will have to be relied on more this year and while he's the real deal when it comes to break away speed, he is a longshot to stay healthy given his size. Deuce, while not being the bus, is a pretty good replacement. The defense didn't really improve a bit, but the natural improvement of Palmulahmulahmulahmulah may be enough to make teams give up on the pass early. that being said, they will still be near the top of the AFC at the end of the year. But that luck thing can't last forever.Not a Cleveland Brown fan posting in the thread and they go there...No wonder nobody likes them.
The Jerk
Footballguy
The only part you leave out on the 2005 Steelers success is that the Steelers peaked at the right time. In 2004, they peaked during the middle of the regular season. 15-1 was great, but they played poorly when it mattered in the playoffs.All the analysis in the world can be done, but the team that is playing its best come playoff time will be the most likely to win the SB. In the AFC, as many as 10 teams could fit that bill. I exclude the Browns, Jets, Bills, Texans, Titans and Raiders. Clearly, not all of these 10 have the same odds, but you get my point.Duce is a far bigger health risk than Parker, but he is more easily replaced by Verron Haynes. I think the WRs will be a push when all is said and done. They weren't very good last year. Randle El will be missed primarily as a punt returner, although Reid should be adequate if Holmes is not. The gadget play factor may also be less effective, but don't forget the Steelers have had them in since '95 or so, long before Randle El arrived. Hines Ward, Cedric Wilson, and even Heath Miller have QB backgrounds, for what it's worth.Don't say anything against the Steelers fans! They all team up on ya!
Not a Cleveland Brown fan posting in the thread and they go there...No wonder nobody likes them.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Getting back on subject, I agree that Cowher is gone after this season unless:
a) the Steelers completely tank and he decides he doesn't want to go out a loser.
b) the Steelers win the Super Bowl and he feels he has a shot to be the only coach in history to win three in a row.
Since odds are against either happening, I think he retires...
a) the Steelers completely tank and he decides he doesn't want to go out a loser.
b) the Steelers win the Super Bowl and he feels he has a shot to be the only coach in history to win three in a row.
Since odds are against either happening, I think he retires...
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