2009 NFL Draft - The QBs (1 Viewer)

[FUBAR]

I know it's early and some of these guys may not declare, FA, the combine and interviews, etc. will change some of this, but let's start early and update as we go.

First, the teams:

AFC East

New York Jets - probably. Favre isn't going to play forever, Ratliff and Clemens?

Miami Dolphins - Probably not. Pennington has done well and Henne is in the wings

New England Patriots - No.

Buffalo Bills - likely no, but perhaps a backup?

AFC North

Pittsburgh Steelers - No

Baltimore Ravens - No

Cleveland Browns - Maybe, but probably not

Cincinnati Bengals - Maybe, what's Palmer's status? At least a backup

AFC South

Tennessee Titans - Whodathunkit a year ago, but quite possibly

Indianapolis Colts - No

Houston Texans - No

Jacksonville Jaguars - probably not

AFC West

Denver Broncos - No

San Diego Chargers - No

Oakland Raiders - Probably should, but won't

Kansas City Chiefs - possibly

NFC East

New York Giants - No

Dallas Cowboys - Not a starter, but a backup

Philadelphia Eagles - I would think no, but if McNabb leaves, a quality backup could be in the cards

Washington Redskins - Possibly

NFC North

Minnesota Vikings - I don't think so, if they want a new QB, they'll trade or sign one

Chicago Bears - probably not

Green Bay Packers - No

Detroit Lions - a need, but they need everything, so I'm saying "probably"

NFC South

Carolina Panthers - possible, probably not

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - probably

Atlanta Falcons - No

New Orleans Saints - No

NFC West

Arizona Cardinals - Probably not

San Francisco 49ers - Probably

Seattle Seahawks - Maybe

St. Louis Rams - Probably

So... the "probably"s / or teams I think more likely to draft a QB in the first few rounds:

Detroit Lions

Seattle Seahawks

St. Louis Rams

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

New York Jets

Three of these teams have the top 3 picks, the others are late / mid. Detroit also has Dallas's 1st which could land them a good QB prospect.

Please add any QBs you think have a chance to be drafted. This is a fairly long list, but by no means do I think I have every prospect.

First, the guys I can see in the first two rounds:

Sam Bradford, Oklahoma

Matt Stafford, Georgia

Nate Davis, Ball State

Mark Sanchez, USC

Tim Tebow, Florida

Graham Harrell, Texas Tech

Colt McCoy, Texas

The rest:

Curtis Painter, Purdue

Pat White, West Virginia

Chase Daniel, Missouri

Cullen Harper, Clemson

Josh Freeman, Kansas State

Nathan Brown, Central Arkansas

Hunter Cantwell, Louisville

Rudy Carpenter, Arizona State

Dan LeFevour, Central Michigan

Tom Brandstater, Fresno State

Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State

Chase Holbrook, New Mexico State

John Parker Wilson, Alabama

Mike Reilly, Central Washington

Drew Willy, Buffalo

Joe Ganz, Nebraska

Willie Tuitama, Arizona

Todd Boeckman, Ohio State

Sean Glennon, Virginia Tech

Stephen McGee, Texas A&M

Nate Longshore, California

Brian Hoyer, Michigan State

Bobby Reid, Texas Southern

Clint Cochran, Toledo

Mike Teel, Rugers

Keith Null, West Texas A&M

My projections:

Detroit Lions - Draft Oher 1.01 and best QB available either with Dallas's pick or their 2nd, I'm going to say Tim Tebow with somewhat of a surprise

San Francisco 49ers- Get their franchise QB Alex Smith was supposed to be, Sam Bradford

St. Louis Rams - Matthew Stafford

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Nate Davis

New York Jets - Mark Sanchez

 

[FUBAR]

nobody?

 

[QUEZILLA]

Tim Tebow is probably going to stay another year

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Lions grab Bradford if he comes out

 

[lyon812]

The Rams are really a crapshoot, because no one's sure how salvageable Bulger is. For certain, they need OL help.

Personally, I'd rather they draft Stafford and pick a pair of OL later--in the 2nd and 3rd, preferably--as there's more OL depth than QB. However, if management feels that the OL is more of a problem than Bulger, which they very well may, then I'd understand them going the Oher/Smith route and taking a flier on one of the later QBs, like Davis or Tebow or Painter, providing who comes out. Or Daniel, since he's a home state guy.

I really think Bulger's just lost his mojo, which is a shame. However, management may not want to admit their $65 million error. It's going to be a nervous offseason wondering which way they're leaning.

 

[GiantsRule]

2009 is going to be an intriguing year. Your assessment is pretty accurate although I think you're overestimating certain teams' confidence in their QB situation:

Vikings - Obviously they don't feel Tavaris Jackson is the answer or they wouldn't have relied on ol' Headbutt Gus for their playoff run. And since we haven't heard word 1 about John David Booty, I'd certainly put them in the mix to potentially grab a QB in the first, particularly since they are slated to pick in the bottom 3rd of the first 32 picks.

Bears - I don't think the Bears seriously consider Orton to be their QB of the future. He's been more consistent than Grossman ever was, but he doesn't seem like the long-term solution for Chicago.

Jaguars - A year ago, Garrard was their undisputed starter to the point where they jettisoned Byron Leftwich out of nowhere. This year, Jags are struggling when they started the season as serious playoff contenders and Garrard is part of the reason this team isn't where the experts feel they should be. If Del Rio gets the boot, Garrard's standing as the starter is in question because Garrard was Del Rio's boy.

Next, it's going to be an interesting poker game between McCoy, Tebow, and Bradford, all of whom expect to return to college for a senior year, but any of whom could command $70M as the first overall pick. Now if FUBAR is correct and there are very few teams thinking QB in '09, they would be smart to stick around and try their luck for '10. But the first one to change his mind and forgo senior year could cause a domino effect if the others follow suit since they all have #1 potential.

However, I keep going back to Matt Leinart's bonehead decision in '04. Had he come out following a National Championship & a Heisman, he would have easily been the #1 overall pick and the Alex Smith disaster never would have happened. Instead, he stayed with USC in '05, watched teammate Reggie Bush grab the Heisman and most of the media attention, and then lost more draft standing by watching Vince Young steal the National title. He ended up the #10 pick making millions of dollars less (in both contract and endorsements) and has now taken a backseat to a Kurt Warner, a former superstar who was written off five years ago. Not saying he would have thrived in SF (although few would do worse than Smith did), but his risk of finishing his college career didn't pay off.

If I had to put my money on who flip flops first, it's Tebow. He has the most marketing potential and brings a level of excitement to the QB position not seen since pre-scandal Michael Vick.

 

[PlayaHata]

How long before the Colts consider drafting and starting to groom a possible successor to Manning? Obviously Jim Sorgi is not the long-term answer. I can't imagine them using a high draft pick on a QB, but I could see them taking one in the later rounds if there's still some talent available.

 

[GiantsRule]

How long before the Colts consider drafting and starting to groom a possible successor to Manning? Obviously Jim Sorgi is not the long-term answer. I can't imagine them using a high draft pick on a QB, but I could see them taking one in the later rounds if there's still some talent available.

Manning's not going anywhere until he destroys Favre's passing records (and possibly his consecutive games streak). I think he's sticking around for another 6 to 8 years easily (although I don't think he'll need that much time to catch up to Favre's numbers).I'd be shocked if Indy puts serious consideration into an early QB selection in the next 3-5 years.

 

[David Yudkin]

Cassel will likely take away one of the starting jobs next year. Plus McNabb may be on the move with all the drama in Philly. Not sure if there are othe current QBs that might make it harder for any incoming rookies to get a shot.

 

[David Yudkin]

How long before the Colts consider drafting and starting to groom a possible successor to Manning? Obviously Jim Sorgi is not the long-term answer. I can't imagine them using a high draft pick on a QB, but I could see them taking one in the later rounds if there's still some talent available.

Manning's not going anywhere until he destroys Favre's passing records (and possibly his consecutive games streak). I think he's sticking around for another 6 to 8 years easily (although I don't think he'll need that much time to catch up to Favre's numbers).I'd be shocked if Indy puts serious consideration into an early QB selection in the next 3-5 years.

Once Favre calls it a day (and means it), at the current difference statistically and with Manning's current rate of production he would need the following (again assuming he doesn't lose any production):86 games to break the completions record, 76 games to break the passing yardage record, and 71 games to set the passing TD record. So he'd likely need 6 years to surpass Favre in all those categories.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

Why wouldn't the Bills look at drafting a quarterback with a 1st-round pick? Losman sucks and Edwards isn't much better.

 

[FUBAR]

Why wouldn't the Bills look at drafting a quarterback with a 1st-round pick? Losman sucks and Edwards isn't much better.

they might, but Edwards wasn't that bad and even had some games where he appeared to "get it". He threw way too many INTs, but I haven't seen enough of his games to know whether that's his fault or his WRs. Evans is good, but where are the other receiving options? Aside from Evans and Lynch, the whole offense needs work (pro-bowls notwithstanding). Their defense is merely average and needs to improve if they want to take that division. Overall, it's not that Edwards is great, it's that they need other things more.

 

[Bankerguy]

I'll be surprised if Dallas does not draft a QB, or at least get one in FA.

Johnson is gone.

Bollinger is not the ANSWER either.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

The Jaguars need to draft a QB. If nothing else, then to groom as a successor to Garrard.

 

[David Yudkin]

The Jaguars need to draft a QB. If nothing else, then to groom as a successor to Garrard.

Garrard is 30. Not sure that mandates needing to groom a successor just yet. They may need another QB, just not sure they need to worry about investing a high pick in a rookie at this stage.

 

[FavreCo]

My projections:

Detroit Lions - Draft Oher 1.01 and best QB available either with Dallas's pick or their 2nd, I'm going to say Tim Tebow with somewhat of a surprise

San Francisco 49ers- Get their franchise QB Alex Smith was supposed to be, Sam Bradford

St. Louis Rams - Matthew Stafford

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Nate Davis

New York Jets - Mark Sanchez

Yes, Detroit is currently stupid, but nobody is that stupid. The guy is nothing. He would be a colossal bust if picked in the 1st round. Mel Kiper did the guy a huge disservice when he didn't tell him what he really thought in that interview a few days back.

 

[GiantsRule]

My projections:

Detroit Lions - Draft Oher 1.01 and best QB available either with Dallas's pick or their 2nd, I'm going to say Tim Tebow with somewhat of a surprise

San Francisco 49ers- Get their franchise QB Alex Smith was supposed to be, Sam Bradford

St. Louis Rams - Matthew Stafford

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Nate Davis

New York Jets - Mark Sanchez

Yes, Detroit is currently stupid, but nobody is that stupid. The guy is nothing. He would be a colossal bust if picked in the 1st round. Mel Kiper did the guy a huge disservice when he didn't tell him what he really thought in that interview a few days back.

How do your figure?

 

[Wadsworth]

Would it be worthwhile adding free agent QBs and any coveted back up that might be available by trade?

As for the Jags, they might not go QB early but I expect them to draft a QB. David is only 30, but last season is looking more and more like a career year for David during a season where Fred Taylor and MJD went crazy. Quinn Gray was 2-1 filling in for David last season against decent teams. Maybe it would be a panic move, but a first day QB would not shock me.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Would it be worthwhile adding free agent QBs and any coveted back up that might be available by trade?As for the Jags, they might not go QB early but I expect them to draft a QB. David is only 30, but last season is looking more and more like a career year for David during a season where Fred Taylor and MJD went crazy. Quinn Gray was 2-1 filling in for David last season against decent teams. Maybe it would be a panic move, but a first day QB would not shock me.

I see pre-2007 Garrard on the field this year. That's not very encouraging.

 

[Wadsworth]

My projections:

Detroit Lions - Draft Oher 1.01 and best QB available either with Dallas's pick or their 2nd, I'm going to say Tim Tebow with somewhat of a surprise

San Francisco 49ers- Get their franchise QB Alex Smith was supposed to be, Sam Bradford

St. Louis Rams - Matthew Stafford

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Nate Davis

New York Jets - Mark Sanchez

Yes, Detroit is currently stupid, but nobody is that stupid. The guy is nothing. He would be a colossal bust if picked in the 1st round. Mel Kiper did the guy a huge disservice when he didn't tell him what he really thought in that interview a few days back.

I agree. Tim is a sharp guy and I'm sure he won't declare without doing real research. But it seems every scout is questioning if Tim is even a first day QB, much less first round. If football keeps his attention, I'd expect he'll end up a good NFL QB because he is amazingly coachable and works his rear off. But it's a huge risk. Watch his throwing motion the next time you get a chance, he needs work.

 

[FUBAR]

My projections:

Detroit Lions - Draft Oher 1.01 and best QB available either with Dallas's pick or their 2nd, I'm going to say Tim Tebow with somewhat of a surprise

San Francisco 49ers- Get their franchise QB Alex Smith was supposed to be, Sam Bradford

St. Louis Rams - Matthew Stafford

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Nate Davis

New York Jets - Mark Sanchez

Yes, Detroit is currently stupid, but nobody is that stupid. The guy is nothing. He would be a colossal bust if picked in the 1st round. Mel Kiper did the guy a huge disservice when he didn't tell him what he really thought in that interview a few days back.

Tebow is risky, but the potential payoff is huge. He isn't currently ready to carry a game the way the 'Fords could in the NFL, but he's a gamer. I don't actually like the fit in Detroit, and I wouldn't pick him in the 1st, but I can see them going that way. FWIW, when I was looking over some sites to make sure I wasn't completely OTL...

Look for him to avoid the injury bug and be the 1st pick chosen in the 2009 NFL Draft - granted, it's an old profile

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[Kevin Ashcraft]

Why no KC with a QB pick -- I know the new regime change will have to play out before anything is concrete, but I really could see KC going QB in the top 5.

 

[FUBAR]

Why no KC with a QB pick -- I know the new regime change will have to play out before anything is concrete, but I really could see KC going QB in the top 5.

I said possibly, and if one of the 'fords drops to them, they could go that way. Thigpen has done surprisingly well given how bad the rest of the team, aside from Bowe, Gonzo, and maybe LJ have done. Wouldn't you rather see KC land Oher or Smith? The combo of Albert and Oher/Smith should help LJ, the QB, whomever it is, do well and the OC would be thrilled.I'm thinking the top 4 will consist of the LTs and QBs. The order, I am less certain.ETA: you know KC better than any of us, so if you're thinking they're "probably" going QB, I'll change my post and add them to the list.

 

[jurb26]

Why no KC with a QB pick -- I know the new regime change will have to play out before anything is concrete, but I really could see KC going QB in the top 5.

I said possibly, and if one of the 'fords drops to them, they could go that way. Thigpen has done surprisingly well given how bad the rest of the team, aside from Bowe, Gonzo, and maybe LJ have done. Wouldn't you rather see KC land Oher or Smith? The combo of Albert and Oher/Smith should help LJ, the QB, whomever it is, do well and the OC would be thrilled.I'm thinking the top 4 will consist of the LTs and QBs. The order, I am less certain.ETA: you know KC better than any of us, so if you're thinking they're "probably" going QB, I'll change my post and add them to the list.

KC has QB written all over them with the #3 pick IMO. Assuming of course that they guy they want is still there.

 

[Zigg]

I would love to see the Titans draft Tebow. Rotate he and Young playing that college spread, have them both on the field at the same time, all types of mess. That would be awesome, will never happen but would be awesome.

 

[thecatch]

My projectionsetroit Lions - Draft Oher 1.01 and best QB available either with Dallas's pick or their 2nd, I'm going to say Tim Tebow with somewhat of a surprise San Francisco 49ers- Get their franchise QB Alex Smith was supposed to be, Sam BradfordSt. Louis Rams - Matthew StaffordTampa Bay Buccaneers - Nate DavisNew York Jets - Mark Sanchez

0 chance SF burns another first rounder on a QB, unless they replace the entire coaching staff and the incoming group is enamored with someone still on the board when they pick.

 

[Loopdog]

Tebow does not have an NFL arm, period. There's no amount of coaching or no great situation that is going to change that fact. He's going to have to change positions. Ever see him try to throw a deep out? It's like duck hunt out there

 

[Tornacl]

What about Chase Patton (Missouri backup) as a late-round "project" QB? The guy is a prototype pro-style QB, but didn't play in college because his team ran the spread, which he isn't well suited for. He would be a great pick for one of the teams that is looking for a backup that they don't need to play for a few years.

There was a good article about him in ESPN magazine in October IIRC. Sorry, no link.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

Why no KC with a QB pick -- I know the new regime change will have to play out before anything is concrete, but I really could see KC going QB in the top 5.

I said possibly, and if one of the 'fords drops to them, they could go that way. Thigpen has done surprisingly well given how bad the rest of the team, aside from Bowe, Gonzo, and maybe LJ have done. Wouldn't you rather see KC land Oher or Smith? The combo of Albert and Oher/Smith should help LJ, the QB, whomever it is, do well and the OC would be thrilled.I'm thinking the top 4 will consist of the LTs and QBs. The order, I am less certain.ETA: you know KC better than any of us, so if you're thinking they're "probably" going QB, I'll change my post and add them to the list.

KC has QB written all over them with the #3 pick IMO. Assuming of course that they guy they want is still there.

Historically KC has only taken two QBs in the first round and both bombed (Steve Fuller/Todd Blackledge)....Carl Peterson got here in 1989 and since then KC has never truly attempted to draft and develop a QB. I don't count Croyle, as he was a 3rd round pick.I think we saw the real Tyler Thigpen in ATL in Week 3 -- pre-spread look. You cannot have a QB who can only throw from the shotgun/pistol, and even at that is not a world-beater. Thigpen has shown he has enough to be in the NFL for awhile as a backup....and that is only if he learns how to play QB the conventional way.I also think the spread/pistol formation has helped the offensive line....but I think what it has really done is masked the deficiencies at both QB and several places on the OL. KC needs help immeasurable help in several areas, but Super Bowls are won more often than not by franchise, 1st-round guys. KC has not had one of those -- EVER. Even Len Dawson was had in a trade in the 60s.Whether it is this draft or in 2010, KC needs to land a QB.....whether that is Tebow, Stafford, McCoy, etc.

 

[GiantsRule]

Tebow does not have an NFL arm, period. There's no amount of coaching or no great situation that is going to change that fact. He's going to have to change positions. Ever see him try to throw a deep out? It's like duck hunt out there

That Pennington kid has had a pretty successful career with a noodle arm. And he isn't quite as elusive as Tebow.I think too many people are turned off by Caucasian scrambling quarterbacks since Eric Crouch showed he didn't have the stones to perform at the NFL level at any position.

 

[doubletrouble]

Tim reminds me of a mobile Gino Torretta, horrible arm and surronded by talented wrs...

 

[FUBAR]

Why no KC with a QB pick -- I know the new regime change will have to play out before anything is concrete, but I really could see KC going QB in the top 5.

I said possibly, and if one of the 'fords drops to them, they could go that way. Thigpen has done surprisingly well given how bad the rest of the team, aside from Bowe, Gonzo, and maybe LJ have done. Wouldn't you rather see KC land Oher or Smith? The combo of Albert and Oher/Smith should help LJ, the QB, whomever it is, do well and the OC would be thrilled.I'm thinking the top 4 will consist of the LTs and QBs. The order, I am less certain.ETA: you know KC better than any of us, so if you're thinking they're "probably" going QB, I'll change my post and add them to the list.

KC has QB written all over them with the #3 pick IMO. Assuming of course that they guy they want is still there.

Historically KC has only taken two QBs in the first round and both bombed (Steve Fuller/Todd Blackledge)....Carl Peterson got here in 1989 and since then KC has never truly attempted to draft and develop a QB. I don't count Croyle, as he was a 3rd round pick.I think we saw the real Tyler Thigpen in ATL in Week 3 -- pre-spread look. You cannot have a QB who can only throw from the shotgun/pistol, and even at that is not a world-beater. Thigpen has shown he has enough to be in the NFL for awhile as a backup....and that is only if he learns how to play QB the conventional way.I also think the spread/pistol formation has helped the offensive line....but I think what it has really done is masked the deficiencies at both QB and several places on the OL. KC needs help immeasurable help in several areas, but Super Bowls are won more often than not by franchise, 1st-round guys. KC has not had one of those -- EVER. Even Len Dawson was had in a trade in the 60s.Whether it is this draft or in 2010, KC needs to land a QB.....whether that is Tebow, Stafford, McCoy, etc.

Or... Cassel? If Herm doesn't come back, do you think it's possible that the new GM hires McDaniels and signs Cassel?

 

[Wu-banger]

Tebow does not have an NFL arm, period. There's no amount of coaching or no great situation that is going to change that fact. He's going to have to change positions. Ever see him try to throw a deep out? It's like duck hunt out there

That Pennington kid has had a pretty successful career with a noodle arm. And he isn't quite as elusive as Tebow.I think too many people are turned off by Caucasian scrambling quarterbacks since Eric Crouch showed he didn't have the stones to perform at the NFL level at any position.

what if Tebow was black...... lolTebow's reminds me of two QBs,,,McNair and McNabb , with less arm strenght. His ceiling could be McNabb ... both are big , strong runners with poor accuracy.Tebow is a gamer ... and is a smart student of the game...any team should be happy to have him.

 

[FUBAR]

Tebow does not have an NFL arm, period. There's no amount of coaching or no great situation that is going to change that fact. He's going to have to change positions. Ever see him try to throw a deep out? It's like duck hunt out there

That Pennington kid has had a pretty successful career with a noodle arm. And he isn't quite as elusive as Tebow.I think too many people are turned off by Caucasian scrambling quarterbacks since Eric Crouch showed he didn't have the stones to perform at the NFL level at any position.

I never thought of Crouch, but I did think about VY and Matt Jones. Thankfully, Tebow seems to have his life inbetter order than those two.

 

[beto]

First, the guys I can see in the first two rounds:Sam Bradford, OklahomaMatt Stafford, GeorgiaNate Davis, Ball StateMark Sanchez, USCTim Tebow, FloridaGraham Harrell, Texas TechColt McCoy, Texas

What is the scouting report on Nate Davis? Are you saying these guys could be taken in the first two rounds or they are locks?

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

Why no KC with a QB pick -- I know the new regime change will have to play out before anything is concrete, but I really could see KC going QB in the top 5.

I said possibly, and if one of the 'fords drops to them, they could go that way. Thigpen has done surprisingly well given how bad the rest of the team, aside from Bowe, Gonzo, and maybe LJ have done. Wouldn't you rather see KC land Oher or Smith? The combo of Albert and Oher/Smith should help LJ, the QB, whomever it is, do well and the OC would be thrilled.I'm thinking the top 4 will consist of the LTs and QBs. The order, I am less certain.ETA: you know KC better than any of us, so if you're thinking they're "probably" going QB, I'll change my post and add them to the list.

KC has QB written all over them with the #3 pick IMO. Assuming of course that they guy they want is still there.

Historically KC has only taken two QBs in the first round and both bombed (Steve Fuller/Todd Blackledge)....Carl Peterson got here in 1989 and since then KC has never truly attempted to draft and develop a QB. I don't count Croyle, as he was a 3rd round pick.I think we saw the real Tyler Thigpen in ATL in Week 3 -- pre-spread look. You cannot have a QB who can only throw from the shotgun/pistol, and even at that is not a world-beater. Thigpen has shown he has enough to be in the NFL for awhile as a backup....and that is only if he learns how to play QB the conventional way.I also think the spread/pistol formation has helped the offensive line....but I think what it has really done is masked the deficiencies at both QB and several places on the OL. KC needs help immeasurable help in several areas, but Super Bowls are won more often than not by franchise, 1st-round guys. KC has not had one of those -- EVER. Even Len Dawson was had in a trade in the 60s.Whether it is this draft or in 2010, KC needs to land a QB.....whether that is Tebow, Stafford, McCoy, etc.

Or... Cassel? If Herm doesn't come back, do you think it's possible that the new GM hires McDaniels and signs Cassel?

Always a possibility...and the name I hear a lot from around here is that Pioili is a top GM candidate. A package deal, of Piioli, McDaniels and Cassel would be fine with me. Especially if McDaniels is only a OC, and Cowher is HC. I don't know if I see McDaniels as a HC just yet.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Tebow does not have an NFL arm, period. There's no amount of coaching or no great situation that is going to change that fact. He's going to have to change positions. Ever see him try to throw a deep out? It's like duck hunt out there

What in the wide world of sports are you talking about? Tebow has many faults as an NFL prospect, but arm strength is certainly not one of them. The guy has a huge arm, definitely NFL caliber. If you saw him throw a duck it's because he was getting hit or throwing off his back foot or just had it come out wrong, but it's certainly not due to lack of arm strength.I remember specifically in this year's spring game he threw a ball off his back foot, 45 yards down the sideline, without the ball coming more than 7 yards off the ground because it was on a friggin' rope.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Tim reminds me of a mobile Gino Torretta, horrible arm and surronded by talented wrs...

Where does this myth that Tebow is surrounded by these infinite future pro bowl WRs come from? Just from the fact that they have highly ranked recruiting classes? Most of the WRs from those classes either backed out, transferred, ended up playing defense, or just ended up being busts.You saw who the TDs went to in the SEC Championship game, right? David Nelson and Riley Cooper? Coop only even sees the field because he's such a great blocker out at the WR position, but he can barely remember which route to run as a WR and has absolutely no ability to find the ball in the air. Nelson is a career 5th stringer who got some PT because half the team was hurt.Yeah, Percy is a stud, but he lines up in the backfield as a RB 60% of the time. Outside of that their best WR threat is Louis Murphy, who has some good speed but rivals Braylon Edwards in number of dropped passes this year.