2009 SEASON THE WAY I SEE IT (1 Viewer)

[Mustang Man]

I went through the schedule game by game and this is how it came out. I will post my weekly picks as the season goes on to show you how I came up with this.

NFC

Dallas 11-5

Phil 10-6

NYG 9-7

Wash 5-11

Car 11-5

Atl 9-7

NO 8-8

TB 4-12

Chic 10-6

GB 9-7

Minn 8-8

Det 3-13

Arz 11-5

SF 8-8

SEA 4-12

STL 3-13

________________________

AFC

NE 13-3

NYJ 9-7

BUFF 8-8

MIA 7-9

Balt 12-4

Pitt 12-4

Cin 6-10

Clev 5-11

Tenn 11-5

Indy 10-6

Hou 9-7

Jax 4-12

SD 12-4

OAK 6-10

KC 5-11

Den 4-12

Playoffs

NFC

BYES

#1 SEED Dallas Cowboys

#2 SEED Arizona Cardinals

#3 Panthers 34

#6 Packers 27

#4 Bears 23

#5 Eagles 24

WEEK 2

#1 Dallas 34

#5 Eagles 24

#2 Arz 28

#3 Panthers 31

WEEK 3

#1 Cowboys 17

#3 Panthers 23

AFC

Byes

#1 New England Patriots

#2 San Diego Chargers

Week 1

#3 Baltimore 20

#6 Colts 13

#4 Titans 17

#5 Pittsburgh 13

WEEK 2

#1 NE 28

#4 Titans 13

#2 SD 20

#3 Baltimore 17

WEEK 3

#1 NE 28

#2 SD 30

SUPERBOWL

CAROLINA PANTHERS 20

SAN DIEGO CHARGERS 38

 

[shredhead]

I went through the schedule game by game and this is how it came out. I will post my weekly picks as the season goes on to show you how I came up with this.NFCDallas 11-5

I quit reading here. No homerism in this thread.

 

[Mustang Man]

I went through the schedule game by game and this is how it came out. I will post my weekly picks as the season goes on to show you how I came up with this.NFCDallas 11-5

I quit reading here. No homerism in this thread.

Maybe it is wishful thinking but I really think a 2 game improvement over last season blow up season is not that far fetched. All the distractions are gone nobody thinks Dallas is going to do anything. They do not have to play the AFC North rather the AFC West. We will see, the good thing is I have it in writing so we can all go back and see who was right.

 

[Incogneto]

I went through the schedule game by game and this is how it came out. I will post my weekly picks as the season goes on to show you how I came up with this.NFCDallas 11-5

I quit reading here. No homerism in this thread.

I am with you! I then skipped right to the NFC west to see the Seahawks at 4-12. HI! Larious!

 

[Tanner9919]

I went through the schedule game by game and this is how it came out. I will post my weekly picks as the season goes on to show you how I came up with this.

NFC

Dallas 11-5

Phil 10-6

NYG 9-7

Wash 5-11

 

[Mustang Man]

I went through the schedule game by game and this is how it came out. I will post my weekly picks as the season goes on to show you how I came up with this.NFCDallas 11-5

I quit reading here. No homerism in this thread.

I am with you! I then skipped right to the NFC west to see the Seahawks at 4-12. HI! Larious!

Not sure why everyone is so focused on the Cowboys. I realize I have them higher then most after last season. This is a new year. OK so I see you like Seattle better then 4 wins I see that as their bottom and their top as 7 wins. What you got them at? I just do not think they will be very good hence the 4 win total. JJ and Duckett wow.

 

[Mustang Man]

I went through the schedule game by game and this is how it came out. I will post my weekly picks as the season goes on to show you how I came up with this.

NFC

Dallas 11-5

Phil 10-6

NYG 9-7

Wash 5-11

No wr's, did you not watch what happened to the G-MEN the end of last season. They did nothing but get some rookies to help the wr dept. That will not help this year. The G-Men will be in a lot of low scoring games with very little room for error for them to win hence the 9-7 record. Eli is just not that good and he will have to make the plays and I do not think he can do that with the talent they have around him this year.

 

[Avery]

I went through the schedule game by game and this is how it came out. I will post my weekly picks as the season goes on to show you how I came up with this.

NFC

Dallas 11-5

Phil 10-6

NYG 9-7

Wash 5-11

No wr's, did you not watch what happened to the G-MEN the end of last season. They did nothing but get some rookies to help the wr dept. That will not help this year. The G-Men will be in a lot of low scoring games with very little room for error for them to win hence the 9-7 record. Eli is just not that good and he will have to make the plays and I do not think he can do that with the talent they have around him this year.

 

[harryhood]

Eli is just not that good

Says the guy who has Tony Romo leading his team to a supposed first place finish.

 

[Incogneto]

I went through the schedule game by game and this is how it came out. I will post my weekly picks as the season goes on to show you how I came up with this.NFCDallas 11-5

I quit reading here. No homerism in this thread.

I am with you! I then skipped right to the NFC west to see the Seahawks at 4-12. HI! Larious!

Not sure why everyone is so focused on the Cowboys. I realize I have them higher then most after last season. This is a new year. OK so I see you like Seattle better then 4 wins I see that as their bottom and their top as 7 wins. What you got them at? I just do not think they will be very good hence the 4 win total. JJ and Duckett wow.

9-7. Division title.

 

[Sebowski]

Link last year's thread so we can see how full of crap you may or may not be.

I'm betting on pretty full of crap.

 

[Sylira21]

I'd be interested to see the reasoning behind this, if you would. You say the Giants did little to improve their WR corps except add a couple of rookies, possibly a fair statement.

What did Dallas do to improve their team from last year's non-playoff finish to the #1 seed in the NFC? Dropping Terrell Owens will not magically make them better...like him or not, getting rid of Owens does NOT make the Dallas receiving corps better.

 

[Mustang Man]

Link last year's thread so we can see how full of crap you may or may not be. I'm betting on pretty full of crap.

Let me see if I can find it. I am not saying I am right. With out a doubt picking games in August you will be way off for the most part on games after the first 4 weeks. This is really just for me too see how I do picking the games in August compared to picking the games week to week. This year I will post both week to week picks compared to the August picks. Lighten up NFC east foes. I would not be surprised to see the G-Men or Philly win the division. I can also see Dallas finishing between 1-3 The Skins will bring in the rear though.Pretty funny how defensive some guys get. Let me look for that link

 

[Mustang Man]

I'd be interested to see the reasoning behind this, if you would. You say the Giants did little to improve their WR corps except add a couple of rookies, possibly a fair statement. What did Dallas do to improve their team from last year's non-playoff finish to the #1 seed in the NFC? Dropping Terrell Owens will not magically make them better...like him or not, getting rid of Owens does NOT make the Dallas receiving corps better.

WOW really, if you followed Dallas you would know the circus that is TO caused way to much off the field non sense. Dallas has got rid of all them distractions. (TO, Tank Johnson, Greg Ellis, Pacman Jones). I am sure I am missing someone. None of these guys were good locker room guys. That was the main problem with the Cowboys last year. Not to mention key Injuries to Romo for 3 games Barber nagging injuries all year and Felix Jones who will be a huge pat of the Cowboys being a better team this year. Martellus Bennett is a freak and so is Felix Joens they will more then make up for the loss of TO. It is called addition by subtraction and that is why the Cowboys will be better this season. If you looked at the bottom of all my posts in the sig area you would have gotten you answer before asking that question.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

great thread!

 

[Mustang Man]

great thread!

LOL I guess so I have SD winning it all ! LOL

 

[tdmills]

Everyone has an opinion.....why jump his back b/c he picks his team to win the division. IMO you can put all 4 of that division in a hat and pick any of them out to win it.

The shark pool has become ridiculous with lots of TOOL postings. This does not strengthen the shark pool. Now, debates with facts involved are different than just posting HOMER.

 

[FUBAR]

I'd be interested to see the reasoning behind this, if you would. You say the Giants did little to improve their WR corps except add a couple of rookies, possibly a fair statement. What did Dallas do to improve their team from last year's non-playoff finish to the #1 seed in the NFC? Dropping Terrell Owens will not magically make them better...like him or not, getting rid of Owens does NOT make the Dallas receiving corps better.

WOW really, if you followed Dallas you would know the circus that is TO caused way to much off the field non sense. Dallas has got rid of all them distractions. (TO, Tank Johnson, Greg Ellis, Pacman Jones). I am sure I am missing someone. None of these guys were good locker room guys. That was the main problem with the Cowboys last year. Not to mention key Injuries to Romo for 3 games Barber nagging injuries all year and Felix Jones who will be a huge pat of the Cowboys being a better team this year. Martellus Bennett is a freak and so is Felix Joens they will more then make up for the loss of TO. It is called addition by subtraction and that is why the Cowboys will be better this season. If you looked at the bottom of all my posts in the sig area you would have gotten you answer before asking that question.

They have a lot of players with potential I'll grant you that, but you're going to miss TO on the field this year while Buffalo wins their division.

 

[Sylira21]

I'd be interested to see the reasoning behind this, if you would. You say the Giants did little to improve their WR corps except add a couple of rookies, possibly a fair statement. What did Dallas do to improve their team from last year's non-playoff finish to the #1 seed in the NFC? Dropping Terrell Owens will not magically make them better...like him or not, getting rid of Owens does NOT make the Dallas receiving corps better.

WOW really, if you followed Dallas you would know the circus that is TO caused way to much off the field non sense. Dallas has got rid of all them distractions. (TO, Tank Johnson, Greg Ellis, Pacman Jones). I am sure I am missing someone. None of these guys were good locker room guys. That was the main problem with the Cowboys last year. Not to mention key Injuries to Romo for 3 games Barber nagging injuries all year and Felix Jones who will be a huge pat of the Cowboys being a better team this year. Martellus Bennett is a freak and so is Felix Joens they will more then make up for the loss of TO. It is called addition by subtraction and that is why the Cowboys will be better this season. If you looked at the bottom of all my posts in the sig area you would have gotten you answer before asking that question.

So TO is going to be replaced by two guys with a combined 60 touches in the NFL? I understand better...you are going with the faith-based approach. Teams have locker room issues because they have poor coaching, not because they have idiot players. Every team has idiot players. Last I saw, Dallas was still coached by Wade Phillips. Good luck with that.

 

[Mustang Man]

I'd be interested to see the reasoning behind this, if you would. You say the Giants did little to improve their WR corps except add a couple of rookies, possibly a fair statement. What did Dallas do to improve their team from last year's non-playoff finish to the #1 seed in the NFC? Dropping Terrell Owens will not magically make them better...like him or not, getting rid of Owens does NOT make the Dallas receiving corps better.

WOW really, if you followed Dallas you would know the circus that is TO caused way to much off the field non sense. Dallas has got rid of all them distractions. (TO, Tank Johnson, Greg Ellis, Pacman Jones). I am sure I am missing someone. None of these guys were good locker room guys. That was the main problem with the Cowboys last year. Not to mention key Injuries to Romo for 3 games Barber nagging injuries all year and Felix Jones who will be a huge pat of the Cowboys being a better team this year. Martellus Bennett is a freak and so is Felix Joens they will more then make up for the loss of TO. It is called addition by subtraction and that is why the Cowboys will be better this season. If you looked at the bottom of all my posts in the sig area you would have gotten you answer before asking that question.

They have a lot of players with potential I'll grant you that, but you're going to miss TO on the field this year while Buffalo wins their division.

Come again, Buffalo is going to win the AFC EAST OVER NE. Bold prediction

 

[Mustang Man]

I'd be interested to see the reasoning behind this, if you would. You say the Giants did little to improve their WR corps except add a couple of rookies, possibly a fair statement. What did Dallas do to improve their team from last year's non-playoff finish to the #1 seed in the NFC? Dropping Terrell Owens will not magically make them better...like him or not, getting rid of Owens does NOT make the Dallas receiving corps better.

WOW really, if you followed Dallas you would know the circus that is TO caused way to much off the field non sense. Dallas has got rid of all them distractions. (TO, Tank Johnson, Greg Ellis, Pacman Jones). I am sure I am missing someone. None of these guys were good locker room guys. That was the main problem with the Cowboys last year. Not to mention key Injuries to Romo for 3 games Barber nagging injuries all year and Felix Jones who will be a huge pat of the Cowboys being a better team this year. Martellus Bennett is a freak and so is Felix Joens they will more then make up for the loss of TO. It is called addition by subtraction and that is why the Cowboys will be better this season. If you looked at the bottom of all my posts in the sig area you would have gotten you answer before asking that question.

So TO is going to be replaced by two guys with a combined 60 touches in the NFL? I understand better...you are going with the faith-based approach. Teams have locker room issues because they have poor coaching, not because they have idiot players. Every team has idiot players. Last I saw, Dallas was still coached by Wade Phillips. Good luck with that.

Good point on the coaching and all teams have bad players. One thing though not all bad players carry the clout that TO does with the rest of his teammates. Dallas had nobody to put TO in his place like some other teams would (example Ray Lewis). Players have to be able to police each other and Dallas could not do that last year this year this is Romo's team nobody undermining him he is the unquestioned leader we shall see

 

[Cookiemonster]

Sorry, Mustang Man. You're my boy and all, but I can't get your back on this one.

 

[Mustang Man]

Hey Cookie monster you took Brett Favre from while I was writing this damn thread up. DAMN IT

 

[Mustang Man]

Link last year's thread so we can see how full of crap you may or may not be.

I'm betting on pretty full of crap.

Here is my grand total in picking the games last season in early AugustGRAND TOTAL FOR THE SEASON

150-106-1

NOT TO BAD FOR PICKING ALL THE GAMES IN EARLY AUGUST.

Here is the link

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...413035&st=0

 

[[icon]]

The shark pool has become ridiculous with lots of TOOL postings. This does not strengthen the shark pool. Now, debates with facts involved are different than just posting HOMER.

tdmillsGroup: Members

Joined: 1-February 09

Member No.: 35483

Really?

 

[[icon]]

Link last year's thread so we can see how full of crap you may or may not be.

I'm betting on pretty full of crap.

Here is my grand total in picking the games last season in early AugustGRAND TOTAL FOR THE SEASON

150-106-1

NOT TO BAD FOR PICKING ALL THE GAMES IN EARLY AUGUST.

Here is the link

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...413035&st=0

I must have missed where you picked every game individually...

 

[5Rings]

I went through the schedule game by game and this is how it came out. I will post my weekly picks as the season goes on to show you how I came up with this.

NFC

Dallas 11-5

Phil 10-6

NYG 9-7

Wash 5-11

Car 11-5

Atl 9-7

NO 8-8

TB 4-12

Chic 10-6

GB 9-7

Minn 8-8

Det 3-13

Arz 11-5

SF 8-8

SEA 4-12

STL 3-13

________________________

AFC

NE 13-3

NYJ 9-7

BUFF 8-8

MIA 7-9

Balt 12-4

Pitt 12-4

Cin 6-10

Clev 5-11

Tenn 11-5

Indy 10-6

Hou 9-7

Jax 4-12

SD 12-4

OAK 6-10

KC 5-11

Den 4-12

Playoffs

NFC

BYES

#1 SEED Dallas Cowboys

#2 SEED Arizona Cardinals

#3 Panthers 34

#6 Packers 27

#4 Bears 23

#5 Eagles 24

WEEK 2

#1 Dallas 34

#5 Eagles 24

#2 Arz 28

#3 Panthers 31

WEEK 3

#1 Cowboys 17

#3 Panthers 23

AFC

Byes

#1 New England Patriots

#2 San Diego Chargers

Week 1

#3 Baltimore 20

#6 Colts 13

#4 Titans 17

#5 Pittsburgh 13

WEEK 2

#1 NE 28

#4 Titans 13

#2 SD 20

#3 Baltimore 17

WEEK 3

#1 NE 28

#2 SD 30

SUPERBOWL

CAROLINA PANTHERS 20

SAN DIEGO CHARGERS 38

Nice job, good read. I can agree with most of your picks games, except Dallas and the Jets. Dallas I see sub 500, and the Jets winning 4 games and challenging Seattle/St.Louis for pick 1.01.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Link last year's thread so we can see how full of crap you may or may not be.

I'm betting on pretty full of crap.

Here is my grand total in picking the games last season in early AugustGRAND TOTAL FOR THE SEASON

150-106-1

NOT TO BAD FOR PICKING ALL THE GAMES IN EARLY AUGUST.

Here is the link

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...413035&st=0

Actually, it's pretty awful. 150 games correct out of 257 games comes to 58%, which is less than the winning percentage of home teams in most years. In other words, you could have done about as well if you just picked the home teams in every game. Considering that there should have been a number of road team "gimmes" in there as well, like New England's road games at teams like the 49ers and Raiders, 58% is borderline terrible.

 

[Mustang Man]

Link last year's thread so we can see how full of crap you may or may not be.

I'm betting on pretty full of crap.

Here is my grand total in picking the games last season in early AugustGRAND TOTAL FOR THE SEASON

150-106-1

NOT TO BAD FOR PICKING ALL THE GAMES IN EARLY AUGUST.

Here is the link

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...413035&st=0

I must have missed where you picked every game individually...

Not sure what you mean, but if you look at last seasons thread, I post what I picked in August prior to that weeks games. The same as I will do this season, but this year I will post what I think will happen from week to week plus what I picked in August to get to these predictions.Just to see what the difference is in picking before the season compared to the knowledge by picking week to week after seeing what is going down during the season.

 

[Mustang Man]

Link last year's thread so we can see how full of crap you may or may not be.

I'm betting on pretty full of crap.

Here is my grand total in picking the games last season in early AugustGRAND TOTAL FOR THE SEASON

150-106-1

NOT TO BAD FOR PICKING ALL THE GAMES IN EARLY AUGUST.

Here is the link

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...413035&st=0

Actually, it's pretty awful. 150 games correct out of 257 games comes to 58%, which is less than the winning percentage of home teams in most years. In other words, you could have done about as well if you just picked the home teams in every game. Considering that there should have been a number of road team "gimmes" in there as well, like New England's road games at teams like the 49ers and Raiders, 58% is borderline terrible.

Well you try it this year. How can you say it is terrible when there is nothing to measure it against besides you saying it is terrible. If you look at my first half season record compared to the second half you will see that the first half was better. I think it is safe to say that is because picking games 1 to 2 months ahead of time is a lot easier to picking games 3 and 4 months later. Injuries and just how the season flows are impossible to predict so ease up big guy. Last season was crazy I mean Arizona made it to the Super Bowl. Just pick all the home games smart guy. Your so cool

 

[Godsbrother]

Sorry but I just don't see Dallas finishing as the #1 seed in the NFC and advancing to the NFC Championship.

 

[Mustang Man]

Sorry but I just don't see Dallas finishing as the #1 seed in the NFC and advancing to the NFC Championship.

You and about 90% of the population it is OK

 

[Mustang Man]

Hey just wondering did anyone see Arizona going to the Super Bowl last season. I would say about 99% of the population would have said no way

 

[FUBAR]

Come again, Buffalo is going to win the AFC EAST OVER NE. Bold prediction

no bolder than picking Dallas over 2 better teams. But we'll see how it plays out. If Buffalo can defend and manage .500 without Lynch, I think they'll take it all - which I think they will. (not SB, just division and likely 1st round loss)

 

[Mustang Man]

Come again, Buffalo is going to win the AFC EAST OVER NE. Bold prediction

no bolder than picking Dallas over 2 better teams. But we'll see how it plays out. If Buffalo can defend and manage .500 without Lynch, I think they'll take it all - which I think they will. (not SB, just division and likely 1st round loss)

Fair enough, but I think that is a much bigger upset to have Buffalo beat out NE for the division then Dallas beat out the G-Men and Philly.NE imo is the best team in the NFL but that does not always mean you win in the end now does it. I mean how fun would that be, that is why they play the games!

 

[TobiasFunke]

Link last year's thread so we can see how full of crap you may or may not be.

I'm betting on pretty full of crap.

Here is my grand total in picking the games last season in early AugustGRAND TOTAL FOR THE SEASON

150-106-1

NOT TO BAD FOR PICKING ALL THE GAMES IN EARLY AUGUST.

Here is the link

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...413035&st=0

Actually, it's pretty awful. 150 games correct out of 257 games comes to 58%, which is less than the winning percentage of home teams in most years. In other words, you could have done about as well if you just picked the home teams in every game. Considering that there should have been a number of road team "gimmes" in there as well, like New England's road games at teams like the 49ers and Raiders, 58% is borderline terrible.

Well you try it this year. How can you say it is terrible when there is nothing to measure it against besides you saying it is terrible. If you look at my first half season record compared to the second half you will see that the first half was better. I think it is safe to say that is because picking games 1 to 2 months ahead of time is a lot easier to picking games 3 and 4 months later. Injuries and just how the season flows are impossible to predict so ease up big guy. Last season was crazy I mean Arizona made it to the Super Bowl. Just pick all the home games smart guy. Your so cool

Listen, buddy, I'm not the one holding myself out to be some sort of expert prognosticator in a public forum when I very clearly am not one. If you are going to do that, you have to expect that people are gonna see if your claims hold water.Let me put it this way: If you put five bananas on a table, wrote H on three of them and R on two of them, and then led a monkey into a room for every single game and picked the Home or Road team for each NFL game based on which kind of banana he chose, that monkey very likely would have beaten you in a pick-em contest for the 2008 season-I can't find the exact stats for home team winning percentage for 2008, but it's usually around 60%.

Then, if you let that same monkey do the same thing, but then let him slightly adjust his picks so he predicts that the previous season's Super Bowl teams, the Giants and Patriots, would win all of their games (because as we all know, monkeys are notorious frontrunners), the monkey would have definitely beaten you.

Don't talk the talk if you don't walk the walk.

 

[Godsbrother]

Hey just wondering did anyone see Arizona going to the Super Bowl last season. I would say about 99% of the population would have said no way

True but then Arizona had a QB that had actually won a playoff game. Romo and the Cowboys recent history down the stretch and in the playoffs is less than stellar.It could happen but probably won't.

 

[Mustang Man]

Link last year's thread so we can see how full of crap you may or may not be.

I'm betting on pretty full of crap.

Here is my grand total in picking the games last season in early AugustGRAND TOTAL FOR THE SEASON

150-106-1

NOT TO BAD FOR PICKING ALL THE GAMES IN EARLY AUGUST.

Here is the link

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...413035&st=0

Actually, it's pretty awful. 150 games correct out of 257 games comes to 58%, which is less than the winning percentage of home teams in most years. In other words, you could have done about as well if you just picked the home teams in every game. Considering that there should have been a number of road team "gimmes" in there as well, like New England's road games at teams like the 49ers and Raiders, 58% is borderline terrible.

Well you try it this year. How can you say it is terrible when there is nothing to measure it against besides you saying it is terrible. If you look at my first half season record compared to the second half you will see that the first half was better. I think it is safe to say that is because picking games 1 to 2 months ahead of time is a lot easier to picking games 3 and 4 months later. Injuries and just how the season flows are impossible to predict so ease up big guy. Last season was crazy I mean Arizona made it to the Super Bowl. Just pick all the home games smart guy. Your so cool

Listen, buddy, I'm not the one holding myself out to be some sort of expert prognosticator in a public forum when I very clearly am not one. If you are going to do that, you have to expect that people are gonna see if your claims hold water.Let me put it this way: If you put five bananas on a table, wrote H on three of them and R on two of them, and then led a monkey into a room for every single game and picked the Home or Road team for each NFL game based on which kind of banana he chose, that monkey very likely would have beaten you in a pick-em contest for the 2008 season-I can't find the exact stats for home team winning percentage for 2008, but it's usually around 60%.

Then, if you let that same monkey do the same thing, but then let him slightly adjust his picks so he predicts that the previous season's Super Bowl teams, the Giants and Patriots, would win all of their games (because as we all know, monkeys are notorious frontrunners), the monkey would have definitey beaten you.

Don't talk the talk if you don't walk the walk.

I am not getting into a childish pissing match with you. I never said I was some sort of expert prognosticator get it straight. I just posted a thread of my predictions and I have no problem with people disagreeing with me. Mater of fact I like it because it brings a good conversation, well with most posters anyways. It is guys like you that bring these boards down. Lighten up man ,I really do not care if you think I did terrible last season cause guess what I will be doing the same thing next year as well so get ready start putting me down then to. I really do not care man. I mean do you not think it would be more productive to say hey that Dallas pick is way off in my book and god for bid give a reason instead of just spouting off you did terrible and you think you are a expert prognosticator. Come on man grow up.

 

[Mustang Man]

Hey just wondering did anyone see Arizona going to the Super Bowl last season. I would say about 99% of the population would have said no way

True but then Arizona had a QB that had actually won a playoff game. Romo and the Cowboys recent history down the stretch and in the playoffs is less than stellar.It could happen but probably won't.

Yeah the odds are against them, but Romo is not the reason this team has not won in the playoffs it is more he is the reason they were in the playoffs. Things just did not go Dallas's way in them games both very close BTW. Thanks for having an opinion and then giving an adult response that can be respected.

 

[CentralPA]

I get where you are coming from with the getting rid of TO, Pacman, Tank Johnson stuff. The Cowboys should be a good team this year and Romo does have Witten and Williams to throw to and probably one of the best trio of RBs in the NFC. With that said I just don't see how they beat out either New york or Philly in the NFC East, they may be able to squeak out a Wildcard birth but with Romo's track record past November I really can't see the Boys winning more the 10 games at the very most.

 

[Mustang Man]

I get where you are coming from with the getting rid of TO, Pacman, Tank Johnson stuff. The Cowboys should be a good team this year and Romo does have Witten and Williams to throw to and probably one of the best trio of RBs in the NFC. With that said I just don't see how they beat out either New york or Philly in the NFC East, they may be able to squeak out a Wildcard birth but with Romo's track record past November I really can't see the Boys winning more the 10 games at the very most.

Hey Central I will be honest with you. I think Philly is the favorite to win the division they had a real good draft and adding Vick, well that could go either way for them. They have the Cowboys number for sure after the week 17 beat down. The bad side for Philly is losing Dawkins and losing the middle lber to season ending injury his name has slipped my mind. I think Philly will be in a lot of high scoring games but that defense is suspect. I will say this that week 17 game this year in Dallas could be a huge one. Don't think the NFL did that by mistake. That game could be for all the marbles again.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I am not getting into a childish pissing match with you. I never said I was some sort of expert prognosticator get it straight. I just posted a thread of my predictions and I have no problem with people disagreeing with me. Mater of fact I like it because it brings a good conversation, well with most posters anyways. It is guys like you that bring these boards down. Lighten up man ,I really do not care if you think I did terrible last season cause guess what I will be doing the same thing next year as well so get ready start putting me down then to. I really do not care man. I mean do you not think it would be more productive to say hey that Dallas pick is way off in my book and god for bid give a reason instead of just spouting off you did terrible and you think you are a expert prognosticator. Come on man grow up.

I appreciate you not starting a pissing match, but what I said about your picks for 2008 was a legitimate criticism, just as legitimate as saying your feelings about Dallas are way off. In fact, it's more legitimate, because I was able to back it up with irrefutable facts. And since you offered your 2008 picks as support for your 2009 picks, they were totally fair game.You made your 2009 picks, and then presented your 2008 record as evidence that your picks had some weight or validity. I pointed out that you were quite wrong about that, and that your picks (for 2008 at least) offered no insight, since they reflected about the same edge over 50% as home field advantage does.

It's nothing against you, my friend, I promise. And I do appreciate the boldness of throwing an unconventional pick out there, even if it is your favorite team. But you can't start a thread about your picks in a public forum and then get upset when someone points out your errors.

 

[Mustang Man]

I am not getting into a childish pissing match with you. I never said I was some sort of expert prognosticator get it straight. I just posted a thread of my predictions and I have no problem with people disagreeing with me. Mater of fact I like it because it brings a good conversation, well with most posters anyways. It is guys like you that bring these boards down. Lighten up man ,I really do not care if you think I did terrible last season cause guess what I will be doing the same thing next year as well so get ready start putting me down then to. I really do not care man. I mean do you not think it would be more productive to say hey that Dallas pick is way off in my book and god for bid give a reason instead of just spouting off you did terrible and you think you are a expert prognosticator. Come on man grow up.

I appreciate you not starting a pissing match, but what I said about your picks for 2008 was a legitimate criticism, just as legitimate as saying your feelings about Dallas are way off. In fact, it's more legitimate, because I was able to back it up with irrefutable facts. And since you offered your 2008 picks as support for your 2009 picks, they were totally fair game.You made your 2009 picks, and then presented your 2008 record as evidence that your picks had some weight or validity. I pointed out that you were quite wrong about that, and that your picks (for 2008 at least) offered no insight, since they reflected about the same edge over 50% as home field advantage does.

It's nothing against you, my friend, I promise. And I do appreciate the boldness of throwing an unconventional pick out there, even if it is your favorite team. But you can't start a thread about your picks in a public forum and then get upset when someone points out your errors.

Ok I did not put my 2008 record out there as evidence to show that my predictions should be thought of as good. Someone asked for a link and I gave the link. Also I am not upset when someone disagrees with me and predictions that have not been tested can't be errors. I started this thread for some conversation and also just for fun to see how I do compared to last season and such.

 

[Sylira21]

I'd be interested to see the reasoning behind this, if you would. You say the Giants did little to improve their WR corps except add a couple of rookies, possibly a fair statement. What did Dallas do to improve their team from last year's non-playoff finish to the #1 seed in the NFC? Dropping Terrell Owens will not magically make them better...like him or not, getting rid of Owens does NOT make the Dallas receiving corps better.

WOW really, if you followed Dallas you would know the circus that is TO caused way to much off the field non sense. Dallas has got rid of all them distractions. (TO, Tank Johnson, Greg Ellis, Pacman Jones). I am sure I am missing someone. None of these guys were good locker room guys. That was the main problem with the Cowboys last year. Not to mention key Injuries to Romo for 3 games Barber nagging injuries all year and Felix Jones who will be a huge pat of the Cowboys being a better team this year. Martellus Bennett is a freak and so is Felix Joens they will more then make up for the loss of TO. It is called addition by subtraction and that is why the Cowboys will be better this season. If you looked at the bottom of all my posts in the sig area you would have gotten you answer before asking that question.

So TO is going to be replaced by two guys with a combined 60 touches in the NFL? I understand better...you are going with the faith-based approach. Teams have locker room issues because they have poor coaching, not because they have idiot players. Every team has idiot players. Last I saw, Dallas was still coached by Wade Phillips. Good luck with that.

Good point on the coaching and all teams have bad players. One thing though not all bad players carry the clout that TO does with the rest of his teammates. Dallas had nobody to put TO in his place like some other teams would (example Ray Lewis). Players have to be able to police each other and Dallas could not do that last year this year this is Romo's team nobody undermining him he is the unquestioned leader we shall see

Yeah - it should be very entertaining as usual in the NFC East. Lots of close physical games. I agree that the Giants will play a lot of close games decided at the end by kickers and a bit of luck...I just think that the same probably should be said about Philly and Dallas (and to a lesser extent Washington). The NFC East has had no one finish with a below .500 record since 2006 (Skins at 5-11). Best division in football.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Ok I did not put my 2008 record out there as evidence to show that my predictions should be thought of as good. Someone asked for a link and I gave the link.

That's cool. It wasn't how the thread read to me-- it read like you were giving your 2009 picks, and then offering your 2008 picks as clear evidence of your skills. If that wasn't your intent, then it's just a case of miscommunication.Honestly, although I was being snarky, I did think I was offering a legitimate subject for discussion. People who make picks very often underestimate the significance of home field advantage. You seriously can beat a lot of pickers by just taking every home team except for really, really obvious mismatches. For example, I bet that picking every home team except Oakland (hosting SD) in Week One will end up going 10-6 or better.People constantly overthink their picks, while formula of "home team unless I can't possibly stomach it" tends to do quite well.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

Here is my grand total in picking the games last season in early AugustGRAND TOTAL FOR THE SEASON150-106-1NOT TO BAD FOR PICKING ALL THE GAMES IN EARLY AUGUST.

Really?Here are your predictions for the AFC teams making the playoffs:AFC PLAYOFFS#1 SEED Chargers#2 Patriots (Wrong)#3 Jacksonville (Way wrong)#4 Pittsburghwc#1 Coltswc#2 Browns (Way wrong)That is 50%. And the ones you selected correctly were preseason favorites.Here your predictions for teh NFC:#1 seed Cowboys (Wrong)#2 seed Saints (Wrong)#3 seed Vikings#4 seed Seattle (Wrong)wc#1 Carolinawc#2 EaglesAgain 50% and all favorites.Your predictions aren't wroth time to defend, let alone read.

 

[stubby]

Nice of you to post your thoughts, Mustang Man. Unfortunately, threads like these bring out the worst in some people.

 

[Mustang Man]

Nice of you to post your thoughts, Mustang Man. Unfortunately, threads like these bring out the worst in some people.

Yeah some people are just looking to start trouble. No biggie just try to ignore them for the most part.

 

[FUBAR]

Here is my grand total in picking the games last season in early AugustGRAND TOTAL FOR THE SEASON150-106-1NOT TO BAD FOR PICKING ALL THE GAMES IN EARLY AUGUST.

Really?Here are your predictions for the AFC teams making the playoffs:AFC PLAYOFFS#1 SEED Chargers#2 Patriots (Wrong)#3 Jacksonville (Way wrong)#4 Pittsburghwc#1 Coltswc#2 Browns (Way wrong)That is 50%. And the ones you selected correctly were preseason favorites.Here your predictions for teh NFC:#1 seed Cowboys (Wrong)#2 seed Saints (Wrong)#3 seed Vikings#4 seed Seattle (Wrong)wc#1 Carolinawc#2 EaglesAgain 50% and all favorites.Your predictions aren't wroth time to defend, let alone read.

yet this is worth posting?

 

[Mustang Man]

Here is my grand total in picking the games last season in early AugustGRAND TOTAL FOR THE SEASON150-106-1NOT TO BAD FOR PICKING ALL THE GAMES IN EARLY AUGUST.

Really?Here are your predictions for the AFC teams making the playoffs:AFC PLAYOFFS#1 SEED Chargers#2 Patriots (Wrong)#3 Jacksonville (Way wrong)#4 Pittsburghwc#1 Coltswc#2 Browns (Way wrong)That is 50%. And the ones you selected correctly were preseason favorites.Here your predictions for teh NFC:#1 seed Cowboys (Wrong)#2 seed Saints (Wrong)#3 seed Vikings#4 seed Seattle (Wrong)wc#1 Carolinawc#2 EaglesAgain 50% and all favorites.Your predictions aren't wroth time to defend, let alone read.

Guy please get this right I am not defending my picks geez I just posted them. Here is a post at the end of last years thread I guess it is all how you look at it if I did a good job or terrible. In the end I am not doing this to prove anything to anyone just doing it for fun so please stop worrying about if I did a good job cause I am not doing it for your approval.Footballguy*Group: MembersJoined: 23-November 05Member No.: 19692Follows Closely: QUOTE (Mustang Man @ Jan 2 2009, 10:15 AM) *QUOTE (MDSkinner @ Jan 2 2009, 10:41 AM) *QUOTE (Mustang Man @ Jan 2 2009, 09:26 AM) *GRAND TOTAL FOR THE SEASON150-106-1NOT TO BAD FOR PICKING ALL THE GAMES IN EARLY AUGUST.Very impressive in terms of overall record.It was not great for picking playoff teams but it certainly was excellent for week to week picks.Yeah my playoff predictions were way off but like you said week to week it was pretty decent and some of the upsets that were picked was crazy week to week.You know, in all honesty picking half of the playoff teams at the beginning of the season in a year like this is actually pretty amazing as well.