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2010 Offseason Dynasty Trades (2 Viewers)

Team A - Crabtree Team B - Pierre Thomas, Bowe
WOW!!!!PT>Bowe>Crabtree IMHOThis was a robbery
In full disclosure, I was one of the teams involved in trade. This is a little clearer when you see the teams rosters though..Team A (got Crabtree) - Stacked, CJ,MJD and Rice ahead of PT, also has Calvin Johnson, Wayne and Vincent Jackson as WR'sTeam B (got PT and Bowe) - Harrison/Forte/Bradshaw at RB and Crabtree/Harvin/Meachum at WR
 
Team A - Crabtree Team B - Pierre Thomas, Bowe
WOW!!!!PT>Bowe>Crabtree IMHOThis was a robbery
I'd take the Crabtree side myself. I don't think PT ever graduates to big time feature back, nor do I think Bowe ever rebounds to the kind of numbers he has put up in the past. Thats also considering I am not nearly as high on Crabtree as some others are.
While I don't know whether PT graduates for lack of a better term he's still a quality RB2/3 with huge upside simply due to the offense he's in. You also talk about Bowe bouncing back to what he once was but I expect a bounce to much more... your still talking about a guy who is only entering year 4 of his career.... I guess it's also relavent to the type of league as well as, b/c I think Bowe has greater value in TD heavier leagues as he is a very big target near the endzone.
 
Team A - Crabtree Team B - Pierre Thomas, Bowe
WOW!!!!PT>Bowe>Crabtree IMHOThis was a robbery
I'd take the Crabtree side myself. I don't think PT ever graduates to big time feature back, nor do I think Bowe ever rebounds to the kind of numbers he has put up in the past. Thats also considering I am not nearly as high on Crabtree as some others are.
While I don't know whether PT graduates for lack of a better term he's still a quality RB2/3 with huge upside simply due to the offense he's in. You also talk about Bowe bouncing back to what he once was but I expect a bounce to much more... your still talking about a guy who is only entering year 4 of his career.... I guess it's also relavent to the type of league as well as, b/c I think Bowe has greater value in TD heavier leagues as he is a very big target near the endzone.
While you may be right about what you just wrote about Bowe and PT, PT is not getting drafted anywhere close to Bowe in startups and he's even farther from Crabtree. I probably side with the PT/Bowe side here as well, but PT>Bowe>Crabtree seems backwards based on market value.
 
Team A - Crabtree Team B - Pierre Thomas, Bowe
WOW!!!!PT>Bowe>Crabtree IMHOThis was a robbery
I'd take the Crabtree side myself. I don't think PT ever graduates to big time feature back, nor do I think Bowe ever rebounds to the kind of numbers he has put up in the past. Thats also considering I am not nearly as high on Crabtree as some others are.
While I don't know whether PT graduates for lack of a better term he's still a quality RB2/3 with huge upside simply due to the offense he's in. You also talk about Bowe bouncing back to what he once was but I expect a bounce to much more... your still talking about a guy who is only entering year 4 of his career.... I guess it's also relavent to the type of league as well as, b/c I think Bowe has greater value in TD heavier leagues as he is a very big target near the endzone.
While you may be right about what you just wrote about Bowe and PT, PT is not getting drafted anywhere close to Bowe in startups and he's even farther from Crabtree. I probably side with the PT/Bowe side here as well, but PT>Bowe>Crabtree seems backwards based on market value.
Just b/c the market says Crabtree is value is high doesn't mean his matching performance will follow suit... I thought not getting sucked into what's new and trendy was what seperated the sharks from the fish... while I like Crabtree alot, I don't see the next AJ or Fitz when I look at him... I believe he's overvalued right now due to being the newest flashy car on the lot.... Crabtree MAY out preform Bowe this year but I don't think you'd get much better than 50/50 odds on who's right about that but to add PT is just rediculous, HE SHOULD NOT BE A THROW IN..... that said the guy who made the trade was stacked and likely doesn't dress any of the players involved, he just wanted a different lotto ticket after Bowe had a down year as far as I could see....
 
Wowzahs, wish I'd been in on this one...12 team dynasty: .5 ppr WR/TE only-------------------------------------------------TeamA gave up Doucet, Early ARI WR;Witten, Jason DAL TE; Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.07TeamB gave up Thomas, Devin WAS WR
What the ?
Glad to be the recipient of this one. Offered to me as well ... by I must say a very good owner in numerous dynasty leagues. He must have some inside info. Gotta say it took me a little time to accept as I had to scroll through the sites to make sure Witten didn't retire!
 
Wowzahs, wish I'd been in on this one...12 team dynasty: .5 ppr WR/TE only-------------------------------------------------TeamA gave up Doucet, Early ARI WR;Witten, Jason DAL TE; Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.07TeamB gave up Thomas, Devin WAS WR
What the ?
Glad to be the recipient of this one. Offered to me as well ... by I must say a very good owner in numerous dynasty leagues. He must have some inside info. Gotta say it took me a little time to accept as I had to scroll through the sites to make sure Witten didn't retire!
Wow....... unbelievable.
 
# Al Davis gave up Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB;Morgan, Josh SFO WR

# Schmiden Theory gave up Boldin, Anquan BAL WR; Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.09;Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.10

 
12 Team PPR

Team A gets DeAngelo Williams / Vincent Jackson / 2011 1st round pick #2 (probably 1-4), 2010 2nd round pick #3

Team B gets Marshawn Lynch / Louis Murphy / Miles Austin / 2010 1st round pick #5

 
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Team A gets:

Rice, Sidney MIN WR

Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.10

Team B gets:

Colston, Marques NOS WR

Vikings, Minnesota MIN Def

 
Gave:

Forsett, Justin SEA RB

Davis, Vernon SFO TE

Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.07

2011 1st (let's say middle of the pack)

Got:

Murphy, Louis OAK WR

Celek, Brent PHI TE

Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.03

I thought it was a pretty good deal for both teams.

I have Crabtree & J. Finley, so I wanted to move VD to diversify a little and move up in the draft to go after a certain player and now have 1.02 and 1.03.

 
Adopted a horrible team, IDP and PPR.

Made this move prior today's R-burger announcement and the McNabb trade:

Gave:

Kolb

Got:

R-burger

2011 2nd round

Also made this:

Gave:

Darren McFadden

Got:

1.08

2011 2nd round

Lance Long

It's going to take a great deal of work to get this team functional. I need all the draft picks I can get.

 
Co-own team in MOXFFL VI with Couch Potato. 14 teams, start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR/TE, 2 Flex, 1 K, 1 D/ST. No PPR.Back in January:Traded: Grant, Moreno, Sims-Walker, and Winslow (No TE required)For: Chris Johnson, Henne, and BoldinToday:Traded: Boldin, Meachem, EdelmanFor: Vincent Jackson, Ogletree, Stroughter
Today:Traded: Stafford, Doucet, 2010 Rookie Draft Pick 2.8For: Ronnie Brown and Ricky WilliamsHaving a good offseason so far... :goodposting:
 
Wowzahs, wish I'd been in on this one...12 team dynasty: .5 ppr WR/TE only-------------------------------------------------TeamA gave up Doucet, Early ARI WR;Witten, Jason DAL TE; Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.07TeamB gave up Thomas, Devin WAS WR
What the ?
Glad to be the recipient of this one. Offered to me as well ... by I must say a very good owner in numerous dynasty leagues. He must have some inside info. Gotta say it took me a little time to accept as I had to scroll through the sites to make sure Witten didn't retire!
Wow....... unbelievable.
Just flipped Witten for a 2011 1st round pick. Devin Thomas really paying off for me!Have Winslow and Heath Miller, so not sure why I was offered Witten in the first place. Traded Witten to a team that picks 1st this year; but league is so even, this could easily have been a playoff team. Most likely a middle of the pack team.
 
FF King said:
Dragon1952 said:
FF King said:
Wowzahs, wish I'd been in on this one...12 team dynasty: .5 ppr WR/TE only-------------------------------------------------TeamA gave up Doucet, Early ARI WR;Witten, Jason DAL TE; Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.07TeamB gave up Thomas, Devin WAS WR
What the ?
Glad to be the recipient of this one. Offered to me as well ... by I must say a very good owner in numerous dynasty leagues. He must have some inside info. Gotta say it took me a little time to accept as I had to scroll through the sites to make sure Witten didn't retire!
Wow....... unbelievable.
Just flipped Witten for a 2011 1st round pick. Devin Thomas really paying off for me!Have Winslow and Heath Miller, so not sure why I was offered Witten in the first place. Traded Witten to a team that picks 1st this year; but league is so even, this could easily have been a playoff team. Most likely a middle of the pack team.
No chance I trade Witten for a mid 2011 1st. You'd have been better served trading Winslow. The first trade was great for you. This one was not.
 
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phthalatemagic said:
Adopted a horrible team, IDP and PPR.Made this move prior today's R-burger announcement and the McNabb trade:Gave:KolbGot:R-burger2011 2nd roundAlso made this:Gave:Darren McFaddenGot:1.082011 2nd roundLance LongIt's going to take a great deal of work to get this team functional. I need all the draft picks I can get.
Best way to improve a cellar dweller is to find owners that will give you deals like those.
 
10 team Non-PPR

Team A gets: Kolb, Chester Taylor, Malcolm Kelly, 2011 3rd and 5th Rd rookie picks (Forte owner)

Team B gets: Orton, Leon, Albert Young, D Butler, MSW, 2011 1st and 2nd Rd rookie picks (ADP owner)

 
FF King said:
Dragon1952 said:
FF King said:
Wowzahs, wish I'd been in on this one...12 team dynasty: .5 ppr WR/TE only-------------------------------------------------TeamA gave up Doucet, Early ARI WR;Witten, Jason DAL TE; Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.07TeamB gave up Thomas, Devin WAS WR
What the ?
Glad to be the recipient of this one. Offered to me as well ... by I must say a very good owner in numerous dynasty leagues. He must have some inside info. Gotta say it took me a little time to accept as I had to scroll through the sites to make sure Witten didn't retire!
Wow....... unbelievable.
Just flipped Witten for a 2011 1st round pick. Devin Thomas really paying off for me!Have Winslow and Heath Miller, so not sure why I was offered Witten in the first place. Traded Witten to a team that picks 1st this year; but league is so even, this could easily have been a playoff team. Most likely a middle of the pack team.
I'm the one who traded for Devin Thomas. With J Finley and J Cook already in tow, I felt this was the time to move Witten. Thomas finally started to "get it" last year and now has McNabb throwing him the ball. A good match IMO. I like Doucet's upside, but knew he was good trade bait. Some may say "Wow....unbelievable", but that's fine, because I do OK :yucky: Who knows, I may just be saying WOW at Thomas in 2010.
 
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I see no problem in getting the player you wanted...just seems like for what you paid he has to be top 20 or so WR...not much room for error

 
10 team Non-PPR

Team A gets: Kolb, Chester Taylor, Malcolm Kelly, 2011 3rd and 5th Rd rookie picks (Forte owner)

Team B gets: Orton, Leon, Albert Young, D Butler, MSW, 2011 1st and 2nd Rd rookie picks (ADP owner)
Team B in a landslide. Kolb is not worth MSW on his own IMO. Future 1st and 2nds are gravy.
 
I see no problem in getting the player you wanted...just seems like for what you paid he has to be top 20 or so WR...not much room for error
I don't feel like I need a margin for error. I guarantee you that I won't be able to get Thomas for that in late October.
 
I'm the one who traded for Devin Thomas. With J Finley and J Cook already in tow, I felt this was the time to move Witten. Thomas finally started to "get it" last year and now has McNabb throwing him the ball. A good match IMO. I like Doucet's upside, but knew he was good trade bait. Some may say "Wow....unbelievable", but that's fine, because I do OK :football: Who knows, I may just be saying WOW at Thomas in 2010.
Well at least this falls in line with your thinking that people should way overpay for your Jared Cook. Apparently you have the same love for Devin Thomas.
 
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Team A gets

McCoy, Hester, Jared cook, Robiskie, and pick 21

Team b gets

Desean Jackson, Zach Miller (Oak), James Davis and LT

 
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Team A gets: James Jones / Early Doucet / 2010 4th round pick #7 (43d Overall) / 2010 3rd round pick #12 (36th overall)

Team B gets: Carnell Williams

 
Team A: traded Jennings, 2.12Team B: traded Ryan, Cotchery, 2.6 and 2.10
Team B wins that BIG.....
guess maybe it depends on need. but i don't see it as a BIG victory. maybe i'm undervaluing Cotchery then. hell, Ryan for that matter.i would say Team B got a little big more, but nothing big.
not sure how anyone can say a team wins or loses most of these trades. it all depends on the rosters and as you said needs.
 
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