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2010 Rookie Draft Picks, Looking Ahead! (1 Viewer)
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BlueBandit24
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Decker might opt to play baseball. He's already been drafted twice but hasn't signed, obviously. He's stated he would prefer baseball but it may come down to his stock in each sport; he looks like a 2nd round NFL guy so I have a feeling he may go that route.
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Dezmon Briscoe still doing his thing and getting no love.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
He has made it very clear that his preference is to play football. If he gets drafted in the first round, there is no chance he'll play baseball. If it's later in the draft, who knows, but he's been pretty clear about that.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
What do you know about his suspension from early this year? What was behind that?
kremenull
Footballguy
I think that the size concerns of guys are far too often overblown and that consideration of several facts concerning the players is constantly being overlooked. First, they are very young men. Their bodies are not fully developed and it is not difficult to add a reasonable amount of weight via today's training regimens and good old hard work. Second, with respect to these two guys in particular, they have been track guys through much of their college career. Once the track career ends, i.e., when they get drafted by the NFL and realize their dream of playing professional football, the sport-specific training increases. Training for football and training for track are two very different beasts. Bulk, power, and added weight are important for football training if you are on the smaller side, whereas for track, explosiveness with lean (yet powerful) muscle definition are the more desired attributes. So when training for track, these guys are not looking to add weight to their frames, they're actually looking to trim a bit of weight from the football season. And the bottom line is, these two guys will not have to get up to 220+ lbs to be very effective in the NFL, I'd say if they get up to 208-212 they will be more than fine to be able to withstand the rigors of today's NFL RB workload, which in itself is far different from just a few years ago. Although I don't want to digress too much into that topic, but there is a different definition for NFL workload for a RB today. Very few guys will get 340+ carries anymore no matter what size they are, and that will just be how it is.
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Brewzers
Footballguy
Its all kind of vague, but its no secret that Briscoe had academic problems last spring. That is the likely cause of his suspension. He got his grades up during summer school and was reinstated to the team in August.
CalBear
Footballguy
Best hasn't run track at Cal. His backup, Shane Vereen does. Best is fast enough to do it--his 100m time from high school would put him at #1 on the team right now--but he's focused on football.Other than that, I agree with you, size is an overrated attribute; in the past couple of years, the successful backs have been the smaller ones, not the ones who conformed to some perceived ideal of RB size.
MAC_32
Footballguy
EBF and Balco, thank you for an excuse to watch Syracuse football! Hmm, on second thought, should I really be thanking you for that? I guess I should've watched or recorded that Penn St game, I don't really want to watch much Big East ball this year but to watch them I guess I'll have to. Looks like Cincy/Cuse is going to be penciled into my calendar.
The TE class has really taken a pounding this September, the top two prospects gone for the season. Boy am I glad I stocked up on young TE's this offseason with Martellus Bennett, Beckum, Nelson, and Casey. Still disappointed I missed Cook everywhere.
WR's, I agree with EBF's top 3, I'd swap Gilyard and Thomas though, Decker's easily my #4 right now, safer than Gilyard and Thomas but with a lower ceiling. Like him, I also don't like Benn and Williams, at least not as much as others. I need to watch LaFell more now that LSU has competence at QB though. Before his injury I was really liking Michael Floyd, with him gone for the regular season it'll be a test to see how good Golden Tate is when coverage is rolled to him. The Kansas duo's a one that bears watching too. Meier's only in his 3rd year as a WR, I think he could be a solid possession WR if he continues to develop. Briscoe's got talent but also comes with plenty of mental midget potential. A couple deeper prospects I'll be watching are Bryan Anderson (Central Michigan) and Naaman Roosevelt (Buffalo). My alma mater Bowling Green plays both so I will make it to both of those games, hopefully catch them on tv a couple times too.
One RB that doesn't seem to be talked about much and I'm a bit surprised why, Evan Royster. I get the concern, given the pedigree of Penn St RB's in the NFL, but I think this kid's got starter written on him. If I were building an NFL team I'd prefer Spiller and Best, but building a fantasy team I'd prefer Royster to Spiller; haven't decided on Best though, as I think Best could be the second coming of Chris Johnson.
The TE class has really taken a pounding this September, the top two prospects gone for the season. Boy am I glad I stocked up on young TE's this offseason with Martellus Bennett, Beckum, Nelson, and Casey. Still disappointed I missed Cook everywhere.
WR's, I agree with EBF's top 3, I'd swap Gilyard and Thomas though, Decker's easily my #4 right now, safer than Gilyard and Thomas but with a lower ceiling. Like him, I also don't like Benn and Williams, at least not as much as others. I need to watch LaFell more now that LSU has competence at QB though. Before his injury I was really liking Michael Floyd, with him gone for the regular season it'll be a test to see how good Golden Tate is when coverage is rolled to him. The Kansas duo's a one that bears watching too. Meier's only in his 3rd year as a WR, I think he could be a solid possession WR if he continues to develop. Briscoe's got talent but also comes with plenty of mental midget potential. A couple deeper prospects I'll be watching are Bryan Anderson (Central Michigan) and Naaman Roosevelt (Buffalo). My alma mater Bowling Green plays both so I will make it to both of those games, hopefully catch them on tv a couple times too.
One RB that doesn't seem to be talked about much and I'm a bit surprised why, Evan Royster. I get the concern, given the pedigree of Penn St RB's in the NFL, but I think this kid's got starter written on him. If I were building an NFL team I'd prefer Spiller and Best, but building a fantasy team I'd prefer Royster to Spiller; haven't decided on Best though, as I think Best could be the second coming of Chris Johnson.
EBF
Footballguy
I didn't love what little I saw of Decker. He looked sort of like an Austin Collie type. Someone who can dominate in NCAA, but might not have the special athletic qualities to be a standout at the next level. I will try to take another look at him sometime this season.
I've never liked what I've seen of Briscoe.
As for the TEs, I think Anthony McCoy is a solid player who has the potential to become another Marcedes Lewis or a slightly lesser version of Martellus Bennett. He doesn't have a huge upside, but he could be a top 50 draft pick come April.
I've never liked what I've seen of Briscoe.
As for the TEs, I think Anthony McCoy is a solid player who has the potential to become another Marcedes Lewis or a slightly lesser version of Martellus Bennett. He doesn't have a huge upside, but he could be a top 50 draft pick come April.
steelcityman
Footballguy
this year only one draft pick is going to be made, Tim Tebow #1, the rest are all free agents.
Just posted an article on my blog re: Demaryius Thomas yesterday for those interested: link
Also will be discussing NFL prospects for a segment in my radio show this morning at 9:30 AM EST (will be available for download if after 10:30 AM EST) - link
Briscoe is definitely being overlooked and quietly having another solid year.
Also will be discussing NFL prospects for a segment in my radio show this morning at 9:30 AM EST (will be available for download if after 10:30 AM EST) - link
Briscoe is definitely being overlooked and quietly having another solid year.
fsufan
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Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
He will be very intriguing to teams that want to run the Wildcat, because not only can he beat you with his legs, he can throw it as well. Maybe not as well as elite NFL QBs, but he does add something other Wildcat QBs don't.
kremenull
Footballguy
What might that be? Fullback-esque speed. Tebow is a great college football player, but his game simply does not translate to the pros. He will not be running over NFL players up the middle like he does college players. He simply doesn't have the speed to threaten any NFL defense. Almost all LBs in the NFL will easily be able to run with this guy, and many are even faster than him. Don't confuse his college achievement with his pro prospects and outlook. Eric Crouch and Tebow look about the same to me.......when projecting their NFL prospects, not physically, of course.He will be very intriguing to teams that want to run the Wildcat, because not only can he beat you with his legs, he can throw it as well. Maybe not as well as elite NFL QBs, but he does add something other Wildcat QBs don't.
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
Obviously from my post I don't pretend that Tebow is an NFL quality QB, but because he can throw and run he could offer value in the Wildcat. If I'm wrong on that it won't be the first or last timeWhat might that be? Fullback-esque speed. Tebow is a great college football player, but his game simply does not translate to the pros. He will not be running over NFL players up the middle like he does college players. He simply doesn't have the speed to threaten any NFL defense. Almost all LBs in the NFL will easily be able to run with this guy, and many are even faster than him. Don't confuse his college achievement with his pro prospects and outlook. Eric Crouch and Tebow look about the same to me.......when projecting their NFL prospects, not physically, of course.He will be very intriguing to teams that want to run the Wildcat, because not only can he beat you with his legs, he can throw it as well. Maybe not as well as elite NFL QBs, but he does add something other Wildcat QBs don't.
Barry Jive and The Uptown Five
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and Jake LockerJake would be my QB1 as it stands today. Given a full season with Sarkisian in a pro-style offense. Good grief. Thought he was great as a freshman. And last year's season-ending injury was the best thing that could have happened to his NFL prospects. The 0-fer season sans-Locker cost Willingham his job & now he has a good coach to develop is pro game.
Brewzers
Footballguy
No doubt. I'm watching Ark vs A&M tonite. Mallet certainly has caught my eye. I'm looking forward to watching him play more worthy opponents though.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Why? Because NFL players are bigger? Then couldn't you say that about, I dunno, EVERY SINGLE PLAYER THAT GOES TO THE NFL?I mean, Adrian Peterson still runs people over in the NFL, and so do dozens of other guys. Tim Tebow has no less power than the top power RBs that go into the NFL every year.
Some serious and inspired work by Javarris James yesterday. Excellent vision and shiftiness between Oklahoma's vaulted DL.
I haven't seen his hands yet, but the pure running skills are there.
Could possibly finish ahead of Best and below Spiller/Dwyer if he keeps going like this and gets drafted in the 2nd/3rd to a elite situation.
I haven't seen his hands yet, but the pure running skills are there.
Could possibly finish ahead of Best and below Spiller/Dwyer if he keeps going like this and gets drafted in the 2nd/3rd to a elite situation.
Balco
Footballguy
Looks like a completely different player. Wondering if injuries have hurt his explosiveness. I have not been impressed with him at all.
Balco
Footballguy
#2 on my board behind Dez Bryant, and slightly ahead of Brandon LaFell, who I have been very impressed with. I read everywhere about how overrated LaFell is, but I have come away very impressed with his skills.
Balco
Footballguy
Jake Locker has really impressed me. No longer just a running qb, it looks like Sarkisian has really helped him. Throwing to spots, making great reads, he is a fast riser. Definitely has passed Snead in my eyes as the # 2 qb behind Sam Bradford. Athletic, strong, QB, with a strong arm, and nice touch on the ball.
JRoss
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Dez Bryant has just been kicked off the team . . .(STILLWATER, Okla., Oct. 7, 2009) -- Dez Bryant has been ruled ineligible for a violation of NCAA bylaw 10.1(d).
Oklahoma State University has already begun the process of applying to the NCAA on his behalf for reinstatement.
This incident does not involve anyone associated with the OSU football or athletic department staffs, any employee of the university, alumni, donors, or any third-party affiliated with OSU.
OSU is taking this step because Bryant failed to openly disclose to the NCAA the full details of his interaction with a former NFL player not affiliated with OSU.
The University issued the following statement from Bryant: “I made a mistake by not being entirely truthful when meeting with the NCAA. I sincerely regret my mistake and apologize to my teammates, coaches, OSU fans and the NCAA.”
OSU coach Mike Gundy said: “We are certainly disappointed, but we are moving forward as we would with any challenge during the season.”
Due to the ongoing investigation of this matter, OSU has no additional comment at this time.
offdee
Footballguy
QB:1) Sam Bradford
2) Jake Locker
3) Jevan Snead
4) Colt McCoy
RB:
1) Jonathan Dwyer
2) Jahvid Best
3) C.J. Spiller
4) Ryan Mathews
5) Stafon Johnson (throat issues?)
WR:
1) Dez Bryant
2) Arrelious Benn
3) Demaryius Thomas
4) Marshwan Gilyard
5) Eric Decker
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Multiple Scores
Footballguy
What does this whole Dez Bryant fiasco do for his draft status? I am assuming he can still enter the draft?
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
QB1: Bradford
QB2: Locker
QB3: McCoy / Snead / Tebow
RB1: Spiller
RB2: Dwyer
RB3: McKnight
RB4: Keiland Williams [out of the box a bit]
WR1: Benn [D()uche Williams won't be his QB forever]
WR2: Bryant
WR3: Decker
QB2: Locker
QB3: McCoy / Snead / Tebow
RB1: Spiller
RB2: Dwyer
RB3: McKnight
RB4: Keiland Williams [out of the box a bit]
WR1: Benn [D()uche Williams won't be his QB forever]
WR2: Bryant
WR3: Decker
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EBF
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It's too early to say anything conclusive. I have been watching more games this season than I did last year, but there are still a lot of top prospects that I haven't had a chance to see this year. I think offdee's list is pretty good. Here are some of my thoughts by position:
QB - This is shaping up to be a strong QB class. Bradford would've been in the mix here, but with the shoulder injury I just can't see how he would come out. I think he'll be back in school for another year. I'm leery of Colt McCoy as a pro prospect. He seems like your classic overrated big program college QB, but that doesn't mean he won't be a first round pick. Jevan Snead will be in the conversation. Two guys who look like they could be late risers are Tony Pike of Cincinnati and Jake Locker of Washington. I think I favor them over the rest of the pack right now, but I need to sit down and watch Snead play. Case Keenum of Houston and Jimmy Clausen of Notre Dame round out the group. They're both having great seasons.
RB - I don't see a can't-miss star here. Jonathan Dwyer probably has the best combination of size and skill. CJ Spiller is electric. He may not be an every down RB at the next level, but his abilities as a receiver and return man will land him a draft slot in the late first round come April. Jahvid Best is a similar player in some respects. He has great skills, but lacks bulk and power. I see his NFL production falling somewhere between Leon Washington and Warrick Dunn. Unless he lands in a perfect system, he'll probably be a committee back at the next level. Ryan Matthews of Fresno State is a good 2nd-4th round sleeper. I liked what I saw in the Boise game. If he can test well at the combine he could move up the charts. I liked what I saw of USC's Stafon Johnson this season before his freak weightlifting accident. He has a good blend of size and quick feet. His injury status could kill his draft stock, but he has the potential to emerge as a quality NFL back if he can get healthy. I haven't seen anyone else yet who has really impressed me. Toby Gerhart from Stanford is a big back with surpising quickness in the second level, but I'm not sure if he has the raw burst to make the transition.
WR - IMO Dez Bryant is the only bona fide can't-miss skill position prospect in the draft. I like his game a lot and I expect him to become a good NFL WR1. He moves well for a big receiver and has great athleticism/coordination. I think he has top 10 talent. Demaryius Thomas is having a breakout year for Georgia Tech and I think he also projects pretty well to the next level. He's a big possession WR with adequate speed and quickness. I also like Mardy Gilyard of Cincinnati. I see shades of Santonio Holmes and Chad Johnson in his game. He's on the slender side, but he runs well and catches everything. He would be a perfect fit for a team that relies on finesse WRs like the Colts. I still haven't taken a good look at Arrelious Benn or Brandon LaFell this season, but my initial reaction to them was lukewarm.
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jurb26
Footballguy
I agree with the Been love, however I would say that his problems aren't just related to Williams. The guy needs to stay healthy as well.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Yeah, he could. Question would be that if he is potentially reinstated for next year, would he go to the draft or come back for his senior year?
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Jevan Snead has played very poorly as of late. He's going to have to improve his play significantly if he's going to be taken in the top 2 rounds imo. Jake Locker is overrated right now imo. People like him because of his high potential, but he still needs a lot of work. His deep ball accuracy is very poor at this point. I like his pro prospects exponentially more if he stays one more year, and i think thats what he's going to do.
Jimmy Clausen is going to a be a stud in the NFL, imo. I expect him to stay for a senior year though, but for next year i'd put him as my #1 QB.
jurb26
Footballguy
I'm not sure if Snead has looked bad all season as I didn't see any of his games with the exception of the S. Car game. He looked pretty awful that night though. Didn't even look like the same QB from last year. He did however battle the flu all week prior to the game and missed practice. Maybe that had something to do with it.
EBF
Footballguy
Locker reminds me of Stephen McGee. Both were top prospects coming out of high school. Both have above average mobility. Both languished in unfriendly systems that stunted their development. I agree that Locker will need some work, but the raw tools and intangibles will get him drafted early whenever he decides to leave college.Snead hasn't been living up to the hype, but he's still pretty high on most draft lists. I don't know much about him.
Pike, Clausen, and Keenum will be moving up the boards based on performance. Pike is 6'6" with what looks like a pretty live arm, so if teams are convinced that he's not the product of a friendly system then he's someone who could be a surpisingly early pick.
Duke1948
Footballguy
that's an understatement...if you are an opposing DC you hold your breathe till he is on the ground. living here is S.C. get to see him every weekend..... amazing talent, and that's coming from a Gamecock.if i had the first pick(FF) there would be no doubt who i would take.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I really do not understand why anyone thinks Jimmy Clausen will be anything at the next level. I'm still laughing at that screen play last week. It's brain dead moments like that why I don't think he'll make it in the NFL. To say his decision making is inconsistent and at times awful would be a vast under statement.
Willie Mays Hayes
Footballguy
He projects to be the next Darren Sproles. Their games are very similar except I would say that Sproles is a better receiver and Devine may have more open field vision and balance than Sproles. They are often compared to one another for a reason and it's not simply because of their diminutive size. The thing I like about Devine is that people always under-estimate him (i.e. size, character, stature = injury risk, etc.) and he always disproves them. To be honest, I worry less about how he'll do in the NFL with his size and worry more with his decisiveness to be a one cut and go runner. Devine has too much faith in his ability to break runs outside the hole - he got away with it in HS and college but he won't at the pro level. I wouldn't reach for Devine in a rookie draft but if he was there in the late 2nd or 3rd round, I would take a gamble because he is a tough guy (for a smurf) and he strikes me as a player who will come into the league with something to prove...and just might.
mcintyre1
Footballguy
I'll be staying away from him in drafts solely because of his performance against the Huskers in their bowl game last year. He was absolutely shut down by a defense that, in all honesty, wasn't amazing (outside of DT Suh).
D'OHtis
Footballguy
Think you'd be making a grave mistake basing a player off one game.I believe CJ is next year's Chris Johnson or at worst Felix Jones. The guy is electrifying, can do it all. If he remains healthy up to the draft/next season, in PPR leagues I think he's the easy #1 pick.
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
He only had 7 carries. Besides...Adrian Peterson's bowl games:
vs. USC: 25-82, 3.3avg
vs. Oregon: 23-80, 3.5avg
vs. Boise St: 20-77, 3.9avg
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
I'm not sure how Devine will do in the NFL. But I do know that he undoubtedly has the best lateral moves since Barry Sanders. Absolutely incredible to watch him start, stop and move on a dime. Feet that quick are very hard to come by. I'll probably take him too early in a rookie draft next year just because I love to watch him run.ETA: Nice highlight package
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thekidd2009
Footballguy
Kremnull....I don't know if your exaggerating or trying to prove a point but you are by far the most ridiculous poster i have ever seen. So far you have said Terrelle Pryor will be the best NFL Qb ever...Javid Best is the next Barry Sanders and Jermaine Gresham is the next Tony Gonzalez. I'm still hoping your attempting to be humorous but i know you're actually serious. You are by far the worst poster i've seen in my short time being a member to this website and need to relax. I'm not trying to be an ####### but seriously chill out with your predictions.
jurb26
Footballguy
Agreed. The guy is amazing to watch and easily the most dangerous open field runner in college football IMO. I love his ability and think that the earlier comparison to Sproles is a legit one. I do think however he has more ability than Sproles. I'm really struggling to figure out what kind of opportunity he will receive once in the NFL. I'm sure a ton of that will depend on who drafts him and the coaches he ends up playing for.ConstruxBoy said:
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