King of the Jungle
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I don't know anyone who would rather have Ben over Brees.
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2011 offseason dynasty trades (2 Viewers)
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ItsOnlytheRiver
Footballguy
How do these 3 team trades go down? MFL doesn't support that do they?
Instinctive
Footballguy
Fleaflicker does. I have never done one one MFL either. It's pretty easy to use the trade screen on Flea too.
Holy Roller
Footballguy
I'm Team A, and believe it or not, Team B made this offer a couple times over the offseason before I accepted. Brees is already 32 while Roethlisberger is 29. Three years doesn't seem like a lot, but it definitely was part of the equation, and why he was making the offer in the first place. And after coming back from his suspension, Big Ben actually had a higher per-game-average than Brees in our scoring system. However, in the end, I just think Brees is a high character guy, and wanted Roethlisberger and his (less than stellar) character concerns off my team. But it wasn't as cut and dried as you might think IMO.
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Multiple Scores
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
He's a good owner, I just think he doesn't see Spiller living up to his potential.Presume he was a top 3 pick last year.
Still, a bit odd considering he could probably find at least one person willing to offer more I would think.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
On the flip side...I was team B...I really underestimated how hard it would be to land good QBs in this league and had absolutely zero depth behind Brees. So I bought myself three years to find another QB1. In addition, MOX scoring rewards passer rating - which really helps out guys who are good QBs, but don't throw a lot of passes. Over the last two years combined Roeth is less than one PPG behind Brees in scoring. Finally, Brees threw a ridiculous number of passes last year, and I don't think he'll repeat that with Ingram on board.So I gave up a fairly small advantage, but also reduced the risk that I'm SOL if Brees fades this year or next. If he finished QB8 or QB10 this year his trade value would be shot.
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wasted space 25
Footballguy
12 Team Non-PPR
Team A gives: Larry Fitzgerald and Brandon Pedigrew
Team B gives : Jamal Charles
Team A gives: Larry Fitzgerald and Brandon Pedigrew
Team B gives : Jamal Charles
Brady had a brutal injury at the same age and his value stayed stable. I dont like the move for you.
sihaokills
Footballguy
Nice trade by both sides
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Just finished our startup draft, first post-draft blockbuster trade:
Gave: LeShoure, Kendricks, Salas, three 2012 1sts
Got: Chris Johnson, Sidney Rice
Feel like I got a steal.
Gave: LeShoure, Kendricks, Salas, three 2012 1sts
Got: Chris Johnson, Sidney Rice
Feel like I got a steal.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I'd say. Your trade partner is rebuilding already right after the start-up draft?'ConnSKINS26 said:
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JPeso
Footballguy
Things that make you go hmmmm...
sihaokills
Footballguy
Great move.... Are you a win now team?'ConnSKINS26 said:
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
No, but now I might be
StaffordCJ2K, WellsMegatron, Wallace, Austin, RiceFinleyThat's my starting lineup, PPR 4pt passing TD's. Still have two 2012 1sts.
How did you end up with 5 2012 1sts in a start up draft?No, but now I might be
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Lots of trading down. Moved from 1.2 to 1.6 to start, and then didnt pick from 3.11 till the mid-6th because I kept trading down for great value, including lots of 1sts. Then had a trade accepted after the draft for 2 2013 1sts, for a 2012 1st, from a good-looking team.How did you end up with 5 2012 1sts in a start up draft?No, but now I might be
Hoss_Cartwright
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The team that got the best overall player (Green) won this trade and that would be Team A.
This is one of those that I think we need to wait a couple of years to see how it pans out. Some potentially great pieces for B, though I do agree Green is easily the best in the deal.
The Comedian
Footballguy
'Steed said:
QB's are really hard to find, so you trade Brees for Roethlisberger to buy you three years to find another Brees. Awesome.
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mashedbananas
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1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE) .5 PPR, all TDs 5 points
Team A gave
Andre Johnson
Donald Driver
Marion Barber
Team B gave
Santonio Holmes
Brandon Marshall
Matt Cassel
Team A gave
Andre Johnson
Donald Driver
Marion Barber
Team B gave
Santonio Holmes
Brandon Marshall
Matt Cassel
Depending on what the rest of my team looked like, I think I'd take Holmes/Marshall. Seems pretty fair I guess though.
jwb
Footballguy
Interesting trade. Guess it depends how you feel about the potential Team B is receiving.I like Team B's side a bit better, because I think we've seen all we will see from Holmes and Felix, and I think both Baldwin and Spiller have a good chance to top their production.
sihaokills
Footballguy
I like team B
sihaokills
Footballguy
Wow like the deal for team B
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
Team B made out like a bandit.'brtdud7 said:
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
Dynasty - PPR - 12 Teams - Standard scoring
Team A gave up:
Jonathan Stewart
Michael Floyd - WR Notre Dame
2012 1st rd pick (could be anywhere from med to high)
Team B gave up:
Dez Bryant
DeMarco Murray
Team A gave up:
Jonathan Stewart
Michael Floyd - WR Notre Dame
2012 1st rd pick (could be anywhere from med to high)
Team B gave up:
Dez Bryant
DeMarco Murray
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Especially when that stud TE is 31 years old.
sihaokills
Footballguy
Wow'brtdud7 said:
sihaokills
Footballguy
Like Floyds ability I like Team BDynasty - PPR - 12 Teams - Standard scoringTeam A gave up:Jonathan StewartMichael Floyd - WR Notre Dame2012 1st rd pick (could be anywhere from med to high)Team B gave upez BryantDeMarco Murray
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
I'll take Floyd, Stewart, and a first rounder..Dynasty - PPR - 12 Teams - Standard scoringTeam A gave up:Jonathan StewartMichael Floyd - WR Notre Dame2012 1st rd pick (could be anywhere from med to high)Team B gave up
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
Getting Brees and Nicks wins this trade even when you can only keep 5.. The 35th overall pick is nice in a 5 keeper league though. I'm not sure many will catch that, but worth a LOT MORE than in a typical 20-25 keeper dynasty.'brtdud7 said:
On the face of it definitely Brees + Nicks, but I'd want to see what the rest of those two teams keepers look like as well.
sihaokills
Footballguy
Strange trade... I like Team B though, Spiller and Ford both have great potential'5Rings said:
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
I guess if you point is that the guy giving up Brees and Nicks could have too many keep-able players and it's better to move some of them for less then going rate rather than lose them to the 5 player limit, I'd agree in theory. But you'd have to think the 3rd rounder isn't enough for either player alone. And if he already had too many keepers, then he won't be keeping Schaub or Gates either, and they both would be harder to get value for than Brees or Nicks.In those limited keeper leagues, a player of Brees' or Nicks' caliber is worth some first round movement. And in those limited keeper leagues, first round picks are FAR more valuable than 3rd rounders. Usually there is still some 1-3rd round talent in the early first round, but everything drops off very steeply there after.
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
I like Spiller/Ford side as well. It's basically Spiller/Ford for Green..
bengalbuck
Footballguy
I'm really high on Jacoby Ford, but that is still a small price to pay for AJ Green in my opinion. Great trade for the guy who got AJ.
Theory yes, mainly meant it might mitigate an awful trade turning it into merely bad. You'd think there'd be other keepers worth less than Nicks he could have traded instead. and if he had another stud QB on the roster already, why ask for Schaub back?Don't know why someone wouldn't keep Gates though. Age might be a concern, but he was the most valuable player in Fantasy last year until his injury. Blew away all other TE's by a massive margin.
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
Guess I agree..Would be nice to also know the starting requirements and keeper rules.. How many years can you keep the player? Is there an additional price to keeping one player over another?I played in a 5 player keeper league where the player you kept would cost you a pick in the following draft, 1 round ahead of where you picked them. And you could only keep them for 3 total seasons. You also couldn't keep a player you picked in the first round, Might have been first 2-3 rounds, I don't remember. This would come into play during negotiations if there are similar rules in play here.
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