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Oops. I totally agree. Thought that was what Team B was GETTING...not giving up.Whoever's getting those draft picks, that's who got the better deal.I'd rather have Team A. Collie could be gone with another concussion and Royal isn't a difference maker. I'd rather have a 1st and a 2nd.
What makes this a little more interesting is that Team B just traded for Gore. I posted this trade a few days ago:
So the net is that Team B gave:Mike Wallace, WR PITfor:Torain, Ryan WAS RBGettis, David CAR WRJones, James GBP WRMorgan, Josh SFO WRFinley, Jermichael GBP TEWhite, Stylez TBB DEYear 2012 Round 2 Just a reminder that this is a non-PPR, non-TE required league.I suppose it depends on how close you think Wallace is to Finley.He also swapped 2012 1st round picks, but I'm too lazy to go see if there is a big projected difference between the two 1sts.
my thoughts as well, but seems like majority of my league likes the other side
I think I was the only other one in our league that even commented about that trade (besides the parties involved), and I didn't really say that I liked the other side (I do think its fairly even), I was just debating with you over the way you dismissed Ahmad Bradshaw by implying that he's a risk to not even be an NFL starting RB next season. Frankly I think that's a tenuous position to take.As to the trade it really depends on what you think of Bradshaw. To me he's a tier or two behind CJ, but I think a top 15 dynasty WR helps close that gap. I stated that CJ is the type of player worth over-paying for and it's arguable whether or not that S even overpaid.ETA: Ok I do see that TM commented that he liked the Bradsahw side.
I can't imagine not trying that tactic first.
Stewart/3.2 for me.
Big Ben and Stevie!
A murdered B.
I'm Team A and was really looking forward to 1.05, especially since there is a chance Julio Jones will fall to that spot because of the teams picking before needing RBs. Couldn't pass up the opportunity to pair Charles with McFadden every week, and move Felix to my #3/Flex. I could really use the WR help, and do take a step back at TE (Cooley will now be my #1), but feel my RBs should make that up and then some.
193-182(3%) advantage for Team A.
Rodgers is worth a lot more then Stafford/Hillis combined. Getting a free roll on Benson is even more gravy.
i also see the trade as very even, don't see how it's murder at all.
made that same offer for the 1.04 and was turned down, won't know how i feel about it until i see who is there at 1.06
Very even.
too much for 1.04 unless Julio or Green falls to the 4 spot.
And I'm Team B in this trade. Obviously completely disagree with "murdered" here! To me this came down to getting 3-4 playable players for 1. Also, CJ Spiller was a top 3 pick last season and really hasn't done anything to LOSE a ton of value (besides having a lot to learn and being on a team that had the luxury of a reliable veteran). So, essentially I'm getting 1.03 and 1.05 and a top 5 TE, and a pretty good WR2/3 prospect. I'll be really suprised if outside of this coming season if this trade doesn't HEAVILY favor me in the n+1..n+4 range. You have to do what's best for your team, and my team is MUCH healthier now than prior to this trade.Another thing to consider, is that JC's value will NEVER be higher than it is now, imo. I'm a huge JC guy and drafted him way above ADP in several dynasty leagues. I've since traded him away in all 3; getting pretty darn fair value.Indy
To each his own. I think Charles is on another level from anyone team A gave. I also think Spiller never amounts to much.
I agree. Much rather have the Charles side of this one
I thought is was a fair offer and am glad you agreed. Anything more and I might have backed out, even though I am a huge Charles fan.
I like Williams but as an AD owner I would not make that move. IMO AJ Green is about the only sure bet to be a stud in this years draft and he may not be there at 1.2.
I'm team A. Most people, prior to the draft, see a tier of 3 guys (Green, Jones, Ingram) and then a tier of two guys (LeShoure, Williams). In the last week I've decided there is a 3rd guy in that second group. And assuming he doesn't fall to Saturday, I was going to take him at 1.04. So now I may still get him at 1.06, or may get someone above him if another owner messes up. The guy I traded with also has the 1.05 and has great WRs but very average RBs. So I think he takes the two guys mentioned above at 1.04 and 1.05 and I still get the other guy. Plus I get the 1.08 although truthfully I have no idea who I'll take there. I also have the 13th, 17th and 23rd selections. So it should be an interesting draft.
I'm Team B.We're a start 3wr ppr, and before the trade my top WRs were Maclin and Boldin. I still have Charles, Greene/McKnight, and Pierre/Ivory as my RB core after the trade. Hope that provides some context.
Seattle Fat Mike for Romo.....great trade.
Fat Mike
Like the deal for you. 3 WR ppr league, ADs value is pretty muted. Id take the two young WRs.
Only one RB to count on.
1. Mendenhall side2. Deangelo side3. Deangelo side
seen him sold for a lot less. That's a pretty good haul if you have extra roster spots
It doesnt really matter if new england brings in a high round draft pick or not. Simply put BJGE is not a good runningback.
Seems like the draft pick bump should have been in the other direction. BGE > Armstrong.
Not sure I would have moved Armstrong for equal value. In a PPR league, BGE has minimal value cause he doesn't catch a lot of passes even if he has the starting gig which many people predict New England to upgrade. Armstrong has some legitimate potential. He reminded me a lot of Desean Jackson in his down field playmaking and he can work the middle as he's used to playing in the Arena league where there isn't a whole lot of room to operate. Having said all that, the 7 pick bump was more than enough and I likely would have moved down in the 3rd or thrown in a mid-4th round pick to make it all work, but I didn't have to
It seems like he paid you to take BJGE. The chance of Washington drafting a WR seems about the same as NE drafting a RB.Not sure I would have moved Armstrong for equal value. In a PPR league, BGE has minimal value cause he doesn't catch a lot of passes even if he has the starting gig which many people predict New England to upgrade. Armstrong has some legitimate potential. He reminded me a lot of Desean Jackson in his down field playmaking and he can work the middle as he's used to playing in the Arena league where there isn't a whole lot of room to operate. Having said all that, the 7 pick bump was more than enough and I likely would have moved down in the 3rd or thrown in a mid-4th round pick to make it all work, but I didn't have to
sure, but that doesn't mean they are going to be ready to start. How old was Rod Smith when he broke out under Shanny?It seems like he paid you to take BJGE. The chance of Washington drafting a WR seems about the same as NE drafting a RB.Not sure I would have moved Armstrong for equal value. In a PPR league, BGE has minimal value cause he doesn't catch a lot of passes even if he has the starting gig which many people predict New England to upgrade. Armstrong has some legitimate potential. He reminded me a lot of Desean Jackson in his down field playmaking and he can work the middle as he's used to playing in the Arena league where there isn't a whole lot of room to operate. Having said all that, the 7 pick bump was more than enough and I likely would have moved down in the 3rd or thrown in a mid-4th round pick to make it all work, but I didn't have to
sure, but that doesn't mean they are going to be ready to start. How old was Rod Smith when he broke out under Shanny? ...and we'll see if Santana is back, I think Armstrong has just as much talent as Moss. Did you watch a lot of Armstrong last year?It seems like he paid you to take BJGE. The chance of Washington drafting a WR seems about the same as NE drafting a RB.Not sure I would have moved Armstrong for equal value. In a PPR league, BGE has minimal value cause he doesn't catch a lot of passes even if he has the starting gig which many people predict New England to upgrade. Armstrong has some legitimate potential. He reminded me a lot of Desean Jackson in his down field playmaking and he can work the middle as he's used to playing in the Arena league where there isn't a whole lot of room to operate. Having said all that, the 7 pick bump was more than enough and I likely would have moved down in the 3rd or thrown in a mid-4th round pick to make it all work, but I didn't have to
That's not a bad trade. Most people will say the 1.04 is a special player but it's outside the "big 3" and could easily be a bust player. He received okay value by grabbing extra picks. The 2nd rounder he received could easily outperform the 1.04 pick.
pretty poor value for the 1.04 imo
Was this really necessary?
