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Jennings is a talented back, but he's already 26. He's also stuck in a situation that I see headed more towards RBBC than a featured role for Jennings. I don't think Gerhart is as talented but he's only 24 and is behind a guy who has a dangerous style of play.
Yes, you will be bashed. That is terrible.McFadden > RodgersFelix > Ronnie/Pierre1st/Locker > Collie/2ndAnd you gave away Freeman
In a 2QB league, to say McFadden over Rodgers is borderline idiotic. That being said, I prefer Freeman and McFadden to Rodgers. Felix, Pierre, Ronnie are all guys I don;t want on my team. I'd trade the 2nd rounder away, but it's an asset in that sense. I think Locker ought to hold more value than it seems he is getting here. The first I wouldn't have sent away either.It's not terrible. It's certainly not a trade I would make though, because I am high on Freeman and super worried about Collie's concussions.
It's a start 2 QB league.IMO, in start 2 QB leagues Rodgers >>>> McFaddenI wouldn't have made this deal if it wasn't for my having a completely stacked roster and plenty of RB depth. Giving up Freeman sucks, but there's no way he starts over Rodgers or Brees anyway. Here is my lineup now:RodgersBreesCharlesIngramD WilliamsAJBrittVincent JacksonCollieFinleyWW TEOne other note: Ronnie Brown represents nothing more than an open roster spot. And with plenty of talent on our WW (We only have a 2 round rookie draft) that is very valuable to me. Last year I made a trade to open up roster space and grabbed Mike Williams TB.
i am not sure i love the trade either, but to say dmac is better than rodgers in a 2QB league is a bit of a stretch.
I would have probably sent McFadden away still, but I would have kept Freeman if I could have. Another future pick, or especially Britt I would have sent away. In fact, I would have kept Freeman, sent Britt, and hoped to get back a better receiver than Collie (risk wise).I like the starting lineup better with 2 RB flexes and Freeman/Brees, myself.
Freeman had a great year last year, and I think he will be a very good QB in the NFL. He also had a soft schedule and probably has a bit of a bubble going right now. One thing is for sure. He will never be Rodgers. RBs come and go rather quickly. I will find more.
I dont care what the league or scoring is, McFadden <<<<< ROdgers
Oops, didn't notice the 2 QB league part. That makes it somewhat better but still not good. Freeman is still far more unproven, but the difference between Freeman and Rodgers is so much less than DMC over the rest of that stuff.
Glad I could stir up some discussion in here. I don't look at this trade as just a short term investment. I now have the best QB of his generation locked up for the rest of his long career. I know I may have over paid short term, but with Deangelo Williams and Donald Brown looking to be sitting on my bench this year I felt I could take a risk with my RB depth and roll the dice. I like acquiring guys like Collie and Britt while their value is low, but potential is off the charts, and selling guys like McFadden when they're value can't get much higher. You couldn't dump McFadden for anything last year.So yeah, the difference between McFadden and Collie, Pierre Thomas and Ronnie Brown is larger than Freeman to Rodgers, but you aren't considering the depth I have to make up for it. And anyway, if Collie keeps his head safe the difference may not be that big anyway. (PPR League)Ronnie Brown is nothing more than an open roster space. Our 2 round rookie draft was very strange this year, and there are a lot of great options to pick off the wire.
Nah, if he's just in the same league as Roethlisberger is now, it is still a huge win. He'd have to ascend to NFL coverboy - what Rodgers is now - in order to be underselling. Rodgers has 1.5 ppg on Brady and 2.5 on the next tier. He's not just a longterm QB1 he's the #1 QB. (Other than Vick who has his own issues, risk, and career trajectory to worry about.)
Andrew Luck will be in that discussion. He's the real deal.
Sorry your wrong. In a PPR league McFadden >>>> Rodgers. I just watched a $750 FFPC draft where McFadden went #10 overall and Rodgers #19...so they all must be wrong as well ?A QB is just that...a QB. I would take McFadden over any QB in a dynasty start up right now.
Start 2 QB leagues are entirely different, my friend.
I was talking about the guy who said no matter the scoring format or league Rodgers > McFadden.2 QB's leagues are obviously different and I do not play in any dynasty such leagues with those rules. Used to play in a redraft QB flex league and the QBs did fly off the boards there.
Agreed, i will go as far as saying Roethlisberger is probably Freemans upside. Im lower on Freeman than most, but i would bet anything he doesnt finish as a QB1(top 12) this season.
Put twenty on that? Injury clause of 2 games?
Is that 2.5 ppg plus the advantage he has with Brees as his QB2 greater than McFadden's advantage over a RB2 and Ingram/DWill over anyone's first flex player?
I like Freeman. Yours and Wesseling's rankings about him helped me deal with him parting my team. That said, as much as I like him I just don't ever see him achieving the elite tier... or really coming close to it.
yep and next season in start ups when McFadden goes inthe 5th round and Rodgers is stil in the top 20, Ill bump this thread.How about you pull up some 2009 start ups? McFadden had 1 nice season, has show the ability to get injured frequently and he is RB. Sorry give me the HOF QB with probably 7 more years of playing over McFadden
I would normally agree, he posted "(That first should be in the top 3 to 5)"If it's a top 5 pick then that's a good deal even such a deep league.
Team B gave up the best player in the trade as well as a bunch of picks. I don't think it's a that great of a trade, but I'm not high on DeAngelo or Spiller. Maclin is a good player, but I think he may have hit his ceiling (or close to it) last year.
Even then though...a top 3 pick that you know is top 3 is always better in my mind than a pick that "should be top 5" next year. Not only because one is definitely #3 and the other team could surprise, but also because you have an extra year to develop a guy.In larger than 12 teamers, and even in 12 teamers, I am of the opinion that pretty much every single pick outside the first few is overvalued and a good sell.
Not bad acquiring Charles.
Charles is a super stud but Moreno and Marshall are extremely talented.
Is that a real trade? Or an offer masquerading as wish fulfillment?
That just happened.
Did you mean to post this in the "worst offer" thread?Team getting the 1.10 gave up a lot of present day production and a futre first (which is practically guaranteed to be higher then the 1.10 in a 10 team league for a long shot pick(s) and a throw in type WR. This one makes little sense imo.
That is truly a terrible trade. I wouldn't do it even without having to throw in the 2012 1st. Without the extra 1st rounder, you could maybe justify it if Deangelo's owner wanted to rebuild. But with the 1st thrown in, that trade is just awful.
File this one under "new owner fire sale." Same guy sold Bowe for 1.8 and Shipley to someone else.
This was my thinking as well.
