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2011 offseason dynasty trades (2 Viewers)

A couple recent trades in my PPR leagues:Team A Gave: Dez Bryant, Jon BaldwinTeam B Gave: Dwayne Bowe, Santonio Holmes, Kevin Kolb, Chris CooleyTeam A Gave: Kenny BrittTeam B Gave: Michael CrabtreeTeam A Gave: Jon Stewart, Austin CollieTeam B Gave: AJ Green
Team A won the first, B the second, and the third is even.
 
'thriftyrocker said:
If it was QB he was after he could have picked up someone similar to Ben for a lot less than this cost him.
Who is similar and costs less? I can't tell if you are undervaluing Ben or just undervaluing QBs in general. Would you balk at these trades?Rivers/DThomas for JulioRomo/DThomas for JulioRyan/DThomas for JulioBradford/DThomas for JulioThe only guy I can think of who might be cheaper than what he paid and get you similar numbers is Schaub, but Ben's longterm success is more guaranteed than Schaub.
Rivers owner wanted Julio straight up, Romo owner wasn't in a position to offer more and I feel like Romo is behind Ben, Ryan owner wasn't in a position to move his QB being that Ryan was his only QB, Bradford owner turned down a similar deal and scoffed at the idea of it... Schaub owner would have probably done the deal if it had been offered, but Ben was the better option.
Am I reading that correctly? Somebody would have traded Rivers for Julio?
I would guess that many Rivers owners would do this based on ADP.
Wow. I would trade any rookie pick ro player this year for Rivers straight up. Easily. I wouldn't be able to hit accept fast enough. I think people undervalue QBs, especially those of Rivers' consistency.
 
'thriftyrocker said:
If it was QB he was after he could have picked up someone similar to Ben for a lot less than this cost him.
Who is similar and costs less? I can't tell if you are undervaluing Ben or just undervaluing QBs in general. Would you balk at these trades?Rivers/DThomas for JulioRomo/DThomas for JulioRyan/DThomas for JulioBradford/DThomas for JulioThe only guy I can think of who might be cheaper than what he paid and get you similar numbers is Schaub, but Ben's longterm success is more guaranteed than Schaub.
Rivers owner wanted Julio straight up, Romo owner wasn't in a position to offer more and I feel like Romo is behind Ben, Ryan owner wasn't in a position to move his QB being that Ryan was his only QB, Bradford owner turned down a similar deal and scoffed at the idea of it... Schaub owner would have probably done the deal if it had been offered, but Ben was the better option.
Am I reading that correctly? Somebody would have traded Rivers for Julio?
Yes, that was on the table, but I liked getting Thomas/BigBen/Kendricks better. Rivers would be nice, but I feel like Ben isn't a huge downgrade, and Thomas/Kendricks makes that a better deal.
 
A couple recent trades in my PPR leagues:Team A Gave: Dez Bryant, Jon BaldwinTeam B Gave: Dwayne Bowe, Santonio Holmes, Kevin Kolb, Chris CooleyTeam A Gave: Kenny BrittTeam B Gave: Michael CrabtreeTeam A Gave: Jon Stewart, Austin CollieTeam B Gave: AJ Green
All fairly even trades. I like the Bowe side of the first one, and the Stewart/Collie side of the last one.
 
'thriftyrocker said:
If it was QB he was after he could have picked up someone similar to Ben for a lot less than this cost him.
Who is similar and costs less? I can't tell if you are undervaluing Ben or just undervaluing QBs in general. Would you balk at these trades?Rivers/DThomas for JulioRomo/DThomas for JulioRyan/DThomas for JulioBradford/DThomas for JulioThe only guy I can think of who might be cheaper than what he paid and get you similar numbers is Schaub, but Ben's longterm success is more guaranteed than Schaub.
Rivers owner wanted Julio straight up, Romo owner wasn't in a position to offer more and I feel like Romo is behind Ben, Ryan owner wasn't in a position to move his QB being that Ryan was his only QB, Bradford owner turned down a similar deal and scoffed at the idea of it... Schaub owner would have probably done the deal if it had been offered, but Ben was the better option.
Am I reading that correctly? Somebody would have traded Rivers for Julio?
I would guess that many Rivers owners would do this based on ADP.
Wow. I would trade any rookie pick ro player this year for Rivers straight up. Easily. I wouldn't be able to hit accept fast enough. I think people undervalue QBs, especially those of Rivers' consistency.
Would you rather have Rivers than Ben/Thomas/Kendricks?
 
'thriftyrocker said:
If it was QB he was after he could have picked up someone similar to Ben for a lot less than this cost him.
Who is similar and costs less? I can't tell if you are undervaluing Ben or just undervaluing QBs in general. Would you balk at these trades?Rivers/DThomas for JulioRomo/DThomas for JulioRyan/DThomas for JulioBradford/DThomas for JulioThe only guy I can think of who might be cheaper than what he paid and get you similar numbers is Schaub, but Ben's longterm success is more guaranteed than Schaub.
Rivers owner wanted Julio straight up, Romo owner wasn't in a position to offer more and I feel like Romo is behind Ben, Ryan owner wasn't in a position to move his QB being that Ryan was his only QB, Bradford owner turned down a similar deal and scoffed at the idea of it... Schaub owner would have probably done the deal if it had been offered, but Ben was the better option.
Am I reading that correctly? Somebody would have traded Rivers for Julio?
I would guess that many Rivers owners would do this based on ADP.
I disagree with many owners then. You don't unload an elite qb for "good" not great rookie receiver prospect.
 
Team A gave: Matt Ryan

Team B gave: VJax, Sanchez, 5.05 in this year's rookie draft

Team A also had Brees

Team B is set at WR with White, Fitz and Dez and needed a #1 QB with only Stafford waiting in the wings.

 
'thriftyrocker said:
If it was QB he was after he could have picked up someone similar to Ben for a lot less than this cost him.
Who is similar and costs less? I can't tell if you are undervaluing Ben or just undervaluing QBs in general. Would you balk at these trades?Rivers/DThomas for JulioRomo/DThomas for JulioRyan/DThomas for JulioBradford/DThomas for JulioThe only guy I can think of who might be cheaper than what he paid and get you similar numbers is Schaub, but Ben's longterm success is more guaranteed than Schaub.
Rivers owner wanted Julio straight up, Romo owner wasn't in a position to offer more and I feel like Romo is behind Ben, Ryan owner wasn't in a position to move his QB being that Ryan was his only QB, Bradford owner turned down a similar deal and scoffed at the idea of it... Schaub owner would have probably done the deal if it had been offered, but Ben was the better option.
Am I reading that correctly? Somebody would have traded Rivers for Julio?
I would guess that many Rivers owners would do this based on ADP.
I disagree with many owners then. You don't unload an elite qb for "good" not great rookie receiver prospect.
That depends on the scoring you give for QB and whether it's PPR or not.
 
'thriftyrocker said:
If it was QB he was after he could have picked up someone similar to Ben for a lot less than this cost him.
Who is similar and costs less? I can't tell if you are undervaluing Ben or just undervaluing QBs in general. Would you balk at these trades?Rivers/DThomas for JulioRomo/DThomas for JulioRyan/DThomas for JulioBradford/DThomas for JulioThe only guy I can think of who might be cheaper than what he paid and get you similar numbers is Schaub, but Ben's longterm success is more guaranteed than Schaub.
Rivers owner wanted Julio straight up, Romo owner wasn't in a position to offer more and I feel like Romo is behind Ben, Ryan owner wasn't in a position to move his QB being that Ryan was his only QB, Bradford owner turned down a similar deal and scoffed at the idea of it... Schaub owner would have probably done the deal if it had been offered, but Ben was the better option.
Am I reading that correctly? Somebody would have traded Rivers for Julio?
I would guess that many Rivers owners would do this based on ADP.
I disagree with many owners then. You don't unload an elite qb for "good" not great rookie receiver prospect.
That depends on the scoring you give for QB and whether it's PPR or not.
 
'thriftyrocker said:
If it was QB he was after he could have picked up someone similar to Ben for a lot less than this cost him.
Who is similar and costs less? I can't tell if you are undervaluing Ben or just undervaluing QBs in general. Would you balk at these trades?Rivers/DThomas for JulioRomo/DThomas for JulioRyan/DThomas for JulioBradford/DThomas for JulioThe only guy I can think of who might be cheaper than what he paid and get you similar numbers is Schaub, but Ben's longterm success is more guaranteed than Schaub.
Rivers owner wanted Julio straight up, Romo owner wasn't in a position to offer more and I feel like Romo is behind Ben, Ryan owner wasn't in a position to move his QB being that Ryan was his only QB, Bradford owner turned down a similar deal and scoffed at the idea of it... Schaub owner would have probably done the deal if it had been offered, but Ben was the better option.
Am I reading that correctly? Somebody would have traded Rivers for Julio?
I would guess that many Rivers owners would do this based on ADP.
I disagree with many owners then. You don't unload an elite qb for "good" not great rookie receiver prospect.
That depends on the scoring you give for QB and whether it's PPR or not.
I suppose it may have a factor in it. If I could trade the 1.2-1.3 in my league Rivers I am dry-humping my keyboard.
 
'thriftyrocker said:
If it was QB he was after he could have picked up someone similar to Ben for a lot less than this cost him.
Who is similar and costs less? I can't tell if you are undervaluing Ben or just undervaluing QBs in general. Would you balk at these trades?Rivers/DThomas for Julio

Romo/DThomas for Julio

Ryan/DThomas for Julio

Bradford/DThomas for Julio

The only guy I can think of who might be cheaper than what he paid and get you similar numbers is Schaub, but Ben's longterm success is more guaranteed than Schaub.
Rivers owner wanted Julio straight up, Romo owner wasn't in a position to offer more and I feel like Romo is behind Ben, Ryan owner wasn't in a position to move his QB being that Ryan was his only QB, Bradford owner turned down a similar deal and scoffed at the idea of it... Schaub owner would have probably done the deal if it had been offered, but Ben was the better option.
Am I reading that correctly? Somebody would have traded Rivers for Julio?
I would guess that many Rivers owners would do this based on ADP.
I disagree with many owners then. You don't unload an elite qb for "good" not great rookie receiver prospect.
Sure, but we're talking about Julio here. I'd still prefer Rivers if I can use a QB and all else is equal, but don't underestimate Julio. Problem I think most people will have is they already have a good QB on hand and Rivers wouldn't be a big enough upgrade.

 
'thriftyrocker said:
If it was QB he was after he could have picked up someone similar to Ben for a lot less than this cost him.
Who is similar and costs less? I can't tell if you are undervaluing Ben or just undervaluing QBs in general. Would you balk at these trades?Rivers/DThomas for JulioRomo/DThomas for JulioRyan/DThomas for JulioBradford/DThomas for JulioThe only guy I can think of who might be cheaper than what he paid and get you similar numbers is Schaub, but Ben's longterm success is more guaranteed than Schaub.
Rivers owner wanted Julio straight up, Romo owner wasn't in a position to offer more and I feel like Romo is behind Ben, Ryan owner wasn't in a position to move his QB being that Ryan was his only QB, Bradford owner turned down a similar deal and scoffed at the idea of it... Schaub owner would have probably done the deal if it had been offered, but Ben was the better option.
Am I reading that correctly? Somebody would have traded Rivers for Julio?
I would guess that many Rivers owners would do this based on ADP.
Wow. I would trade any rookie pick ro player this year for Rivers straight up. Easily. I wouldn't be able to hit accept fast enough. I think people undervalue QBs, especially those of Rivers' consistency.
Would you rather have Rivers than Ben/Thomas/Kendricks?
:yes:For all we know, Thomas is a total bust. Kendricks is a TE...I could probably buy him cheaper next year anyway - but McDaniels doesn't use a TE in his offense so idk why people are so high on him...
 
A: Gives Rodgers, R Moss

B: Gives M Ryan, Mendenhall

I'm A; and my RB's are brutal. B is pretty deep at RB. Hate giving up Rodgers but it's a 14 team dynasty and RB1's don't grow on trees.

 
Team A gave: Matt RyanTeam B gave: VJax, Sanchez, 5.05 in this year's rookie draftTeam A also had BreesTeam B is set at WR with White, Fitz and Dez and needed a #1 QB with only Stafford waiting in the wings.
Bumping to see if there are any opinions on a non-Rivers trade ;)
 
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Team A gave: Matt RyanTeam B gave: VJax, Sanchez, 5.05 in this year's rookie draftTeam A also had BreesTeam B is set at WR with White, Fitz and Dez and needed a #1 QB with only Stafford waiting in the wings.
Bumping to see if there are any opinions on a non-Rivers trade ;)
I like Matt Ryan to break through to the other side, but that still seems like a pretty big overpay. "Only Stafford and Sanchez" isn't ideal but isn't cause for panic either.
 
I was actually happy with Schaub as my QB2 - but was a little worried about MJD. I have tried to get Rice off of this owner before, and finally had to offer him something more substantial than the 2 and 3 for 1's I had been offering.

QB's are indeed extremely valuable in this league - and I may in fact end up with less points out of my QB2 but overall I feel it was worth it.

QB's are: Rodgers, Bradford and Gabbert.

 
I was actually happy with Schaub as my QB2 - but was a little worried about MJD. I have tried to get Rice off of this owner before, and finally had to offer him something more substantial than the 2 and 3 for 1's I had been offering. QB's are indeed extremely valuable in this league - and I may in fact end up with less points out of my QB2 but overall I feel it was worth it.QB's are: Rodgers, Bradford and Gabbert.
While schaub could outperform Bradford this season overall Bradford blows away schaub in a dynasty format. A small percentage might prefer mjd to rice but almost no one would take the mjd/ schaub side. Do a poll and it will be a slaughter.Nice job destroying and humiliating the other team.
 
I was actually happy with Schaub as my QB2 - but was a little worried about MJD. I have tried to get Rice off of this owner before, and finally had to offer him something more substantial than the 2 and 3 for 1's I had been offering. QB's are indeed extremely valuable in this league - and I may in fact end up with less points out of my QB2 but overall I feel it was worth it.QB's are: Rodgers, Bradford and Gabbert.
While schaub could outperform Bradford this season overall Bradford blows away schaub in a dynasty format. A small percentage might prefer mjd to rice but almost no one would take the mjd/ schaub side. Do a poll and it will be a slaughter.Nice job destroying and humiliating the other team.
Destroying and humiliating? Schaub has some weapons, and MJD is no slouch. I would take Rice/Bradford too but it's kind of close, isn't it?
 
I was actually happy with Schaub as my QB2 - but was a little worried about MJD. I have tried to get Rice off of this owner before, and finally had to offer him something more substantial than the 2 and 3 for 1's I had been offering.

QB's are indeed extremely valuable in this league - and I may in fact end up with less points out of my QB2 but overall I feel it was worth it.

QB's are: Rodgers, Bradford and Gabbert.
While schaub could outperform Bradford this season overall Bradford blows away schaub in a dynasty format.A small percentage might prefer mjd to rice but almost no one would take the mjd/ schaub side. Do a poll and it will be a slaughter.

Nice job destroying and humiliating the other team.
Destroying and humiliating? Schaub has some weapons, and MJD is no slouch. I would take Rice/Bradford too but it's kind of close, isn't it?
No, it's not close at all.
 
12 team dynasty PPR

A gave Darren McFadden, Jacoby Ford, Rookie 1.03 (knew ahead of time it was Julio Jones)

B gave Roddy White, Michael Turner, Rookie 4.11

 
Team A gave: Matt RyanTeam B gave: VJax, Sanchez, 5.05 in this year's rookie draftTeam A also had BreesTeam B is set at WR with White, Fitz and Dez and needed a #1 QB with only Stafford waiting in the wings.
Bumping to see if there are any opinions on a non-Rivers trade ;)
I like Matt Ryan to break through to the other side, but that still seems like a pretty big overpay. "Only Stafford and Sanchez" isn't ideal but isn't cause for panic either.
I don't think Sanchez sniffs top 10 FF QB stats in his career. And Stafford could be great... Big emphasis on 'could'.With the WR Corp in ATL, i see Ryan as a potential top 5 FF QB very shortly. No one is giving giving away any of the other top QBs (Brees, Rodgers, Rivers, Manning, Brady, Romo)for a deal like this imo, so to me it looks like VJax for Ryan, with some extra junk thrown in for good measure. Ps. This is a 12 team, non-ppr league with 'only' 12 keepers each team, so it's not a super-deep dynasty league. If that matters...
 
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12 team dynasty PPRA gave Darren McFadden, Jacoby Ford, Rookie 1.03 (knew ahead of time it was Julio Jones)B gave Roddy White, Michael Turner, Rookie 4.11
I think the lesson here is that if you can find the right owner you can still get a haul for Turner. I'd dangle him if you own him and see if someone bites.
 
Team A: A.Peterson MIN $17Team B: J.Charles KCC $3 R.Matthews SDC $412 team salary cap dynasty league. 1-2-2-1 + Flex RB/WR/TE. No PPR, but points given for 1st downs (catches at a higher rate than rushes) and return yardage.
Bumping because I'm really interested in opinions on this one. Some in my league are saying this is a very even trade - others are saying that if they had veto power, they would use it.
 
Team A: A.Peterson MIN $17Team B: J.Charles KCC $3 R.Matthews SDC $412 team salary cap dynasty league. 1-2-2-1 + Flex RB/WR/TE. No PPR, but points given for 1st downs (catches at a higher rate than rushes) and return yardage.
Bumping because I'm really interested in opinions on this one. Some in my league are saying this is a very even trade - others are saying that if they had veto power, they would use it.
All Team B here.... Charles for 3 bucks is huge. Matthews is solid and could breakout this season.
 
Team A: A.Peterson MIN $17Team B: J.Charles KCC $3 R.Matthews SDC $412 team salary cap dynasty league. 1-2-2-1 + Flex RB/WR/TE. No PPR, but points given for 1st downs (catches at a higher rate than rushes) and return yardage.
Bumping because I'm really interested in opinions on this one. Some in my league are saying this is a very even trade - others are saying that if they had veto power, they would use it.
If this weren't a salary cap league, it would be fair and maybe ADP would be worth more. But with the salaries, Charles/Matthews at their prices is a lot better package than ADP for $17.
 
12 team PPR

A gave up:

Carter, Delone IND RB

Jackson, Vincent SDC WR

Moss, Santana WAS WR

B gave up:

Hill, Jason JAC WR

White, Roddy ATL WR

Olsen, Greg CHI TE

 
Much more for white?

I thought it was a decent haul if you are concerned about jones taking targets over the next couple years.

I am not one of those people and would take the white side, but can see the other side.

 
Much more for white?I thought it was a decent haul if you are concerned about jones taking targets over the next couple years.I am not one of those people and would take the white side, but can see the other side.
I agree. I like the White side better, but it's close.
 
12 team dynasty PPRA gave Darren McFadden, Jacoby Ford, Rookie 1.03 (knew ahead of time it was Julio Jones)B gave Roddy White, Michael Turner, Rookie 4.11
I think the lesson here is that if you can find the right owner you can still get a haul for Turner. I'd dangle him if you own him and see if someone bites.
I see it as the Turner owner having to package a top 5 dynasty wr along with him to get a deal done.
 
12 team dynasty PPRA gave Darren McFadden, Jacoby Ford, Rookie 1.03 (knew ahead of time it was Julio Jones)B gave Roddy White, Michael Turner, Rookie 4.11
I think the lesson here is that if you can find the right owner you can still get a haul for Turner. I'd dangle him if you own him and see if someone bites.
Maybe, but my guess is that the "prize" Team A was after was Roddy White, not Turner.
 
Team A: A.Peterson MIN $17Team B: J.Charles KCC $3 R.Matthews SDC $412 team salary cap dynasty league. 1-2-2-1 + Flex RB/WR/TE. No PPR, but points given for 1st downs (catches at a higher rate than rushes) and return yardage.
Bumping because I'm really interested in opinions on this one. Some in my league are saying this is a very even trade - others are saying that if they had veto power, they would use it.
why would they veto? ADP is a stud and worth plenty. JC seems to be overvalued but other people think he is the second coming. Mathews - the jury is still out
 
Team A: A.Peterson MIN $17Team B: J.Charles KCC $3 R.Matthews SDC $412 team salary cap dynasty league. 1-2-2-1 + Flex RB/WR/TE. No PPR, but points given for 1st downs (catches at a higher rate than rushes) and return yardage.
Bumping because I'm really interested in opinions on this one. Some in my league are saying this is a very even trade - others are saying that if they had veto power, they would use it.
why would they veto? ADP is a stud and worth plenty. JC seems to be overvalued but other people think he is the second coming. Mathews - the jury is still out
Which side do they think is getting hosed? I'd rather have Charles and Matthews especially considering the salaries, but it seems very fair to me.
 
Two just went down in one of my leagues with our roster cutdown approaching. Pretty complicated rules. IMO, trades make sense for all parties.

Starters: 1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 O-Flex, 1 K, 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 1 D-Flex.

Roster Cutdown Max Keepers (25 Total): 3 QB, 3 RB, 5 WR, 3 TE, 3 K, 5 DL, 5 LB, 5 DB.

Max Contract Years (before returned to FA pool): 5 years for drafted players. 3 years for FA pick-ups. All players involved were drafted last season (w/ 4 years left) except for James Anderson (2 years remaining).

Notable Scoring: 6pt all tds. 1 PT/Rec (1.5 for TEs). Points to players for return yards (1/40 yards kick return; 1/20 yards punt return). Heavy Defensive Scoring: 2pt/tackle for LBs. 3pt/tackle for DEs.

Team A gives:

LB James Anderson

Team B gives:

QB Kyle Orton

Notes: Team A managed to win the league championship w/ Eli Manning/Jon Kitna combo last year. Didn't really have anyone behind Manning. Pretty strong at LB. Who will step-up and start is a question with a mixture of young guys and guys recovering from injuries: Ray Lewis/Demeco Ryans/Barrett Ruud/Clint Sessions/Darryl Washington/Jamar Chaney/Donald Butler. Team B has Aaron Rodgers and was questionable at LB after Curtis Lofton (the only other big scorer he had was Paris Lenon and we'll see if he gets the same about of snaps next year).

Team C gives:

LB Patrick Willis

RB Marshawn Lynch

TE Kellen Winslow

Team D gives:

WR Miles Austin

WR Davone Bess

DE Cliff Avril

Notes: Team C most likely would've cut Lynch because of roster restrictions (has Rice/McFadden/Hillis) and still has Puz/DQwell/Fletcher/Hawthorne at LB and Finley at TE. Team C now has Lawrence Jackson & Avril to battle out DE3 spot. Team C's WR core is now Austin/Harvin/Dez/Bess/AJ Green. Team D still has Bowe/Mike Thomas/Mike X. Williams (Sea) at WR. Huge upgrade at LB for Team D w/ no #1 LB on the roster. Beanie Wells was Team D's 2nd RB before Lynch was added. #3 RB pre-trade was either Hardesty/Woodhead/Forsett. Team D's #1 TE pre-trade was Celek.

 
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A: Gives Rodgers, R MossB: Gives M Ryan, MendenhallI'm A; and my RB's are brutal. B is pretty deep at RB. Hate giving up Rodgers but it's a 14 team dynasty and RB1's don't grow on trees.
Nice move by you. Matt Ryan will be serviceable but i think Mendy will be great for you
I'm Team B. This league is a superflex where you can start 2 QB's. It was tough to give up Mendenhall, but upgrading from Ryan to Rodgers to pair with Big Ben on my roster in this format is absolutely huge IMO. With each of our teams' make-ups, I think this was a win-win for both in this trade.
 

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