sihaokills
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Ok trade for you
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2011 offseason dynasty trades (3 Viewers)
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sihaokills
Footballguy
chocolate bomber
Footballguy
Hope you're wrong on Matthews. I saw the window of opportunity closing to get Fitz and I'd targeted him hard for this offseason. This particular league is nearly impossible to trade in. One more:Gave: CasselReceived: BrittDuring the Britt/Thug hysteria. Crossing my fingers.
JPeso
Footballguy
This would need to be a 2 QB league to be even remotely close.
I like it. Cassel is a bit underrated IMO, but very replaceable, especially in a 10-teamer. Britt has a much higher upside.
JPeso
Footballguy
PPR - 1 QB, 1-4 RB, 1-4 WR, 1-4 TE, 1 K, 1 D (9 total)
Team A Traded: Kenny Britt, Jon Baldwin
Team B Traded: Miles Austin, Ed Dickson
Team A After:
M Vick, J Campbell
L McCoy, M Lynch, B Wells, J Snelling, P Thomas, C Ivory
M Austin, S Holmes, A Armstrong, K Walter, J Jernigan, T Doss
O Daniels, E Dickson, J Cameron, R Housler
Team B After:
A Rodgers, B Gabbert
C Johnson, D McFadden, J Best, C Spiller
D Bryant, S Rice, D Bowe, J Maclin, J Baldwin, M Crabtree, K Britt, J Ford, A Benn, D Thomas
D Clark, J Gresham, K Rudolph, J Tamme, T Gonzalez
Team A Traded: Kenny Britt, Jon Baldwin
Team B Traded: Miles Austin, Ed Dickson
Team A After:
M Vick, J Campbell
L McCoy, M Lynch, B Wells, J Snelling, P Thomas, C Ivory
M Austin, S Holmes, A Armstrong, K Walter, J Jernigan, T Doss
O Daniels, E Dickson, J Cameron, R Housler
Team B After:
A Rodgers, B Gabbert
C Johnson, D McFadden, J Best, C Spiller
D Bryant, S Rice, D Bowe, J Maclin, J Baldwin, M Crabtree, K Britt, J Ford, A Benn, D Thomas
D Clark, J Gresham, K Rudolph, J Tamme, T Gonzalez
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Dawg Pound 69
Footballguy
Prefer Team B. He's got enough talent at WR to gamble on Britt, plus now he doesn't have 2 Dallas WR's. Of course he does have 2 KC WR's, which is even worse. But Bowe could be playing elsewhere in 2012. Team A on the otherhand didn't have the depth to afford a 2-for-1 swap at wideout (ignoring Dickson who is nothing special). So not really understanding why Team A would make this deal, especially since he isn't strong enough at RB to start 4 backs.
gianmarco
Footballguy
I was Team A here and you touched on both points. Normally, I completely agree that I couldn't afford a 2 for 1 (not just at WR but pretty much anywhere as that team is devoid of talent and depth). But, you mentioned how team B could afford to "gamble" on Britt. I couldn't. I acquired him before his recent string of arrests and, while he's "safe" at this point for his current actions, I couldn't afford for him to crap out. While I like Baldwin, I'm not as high on him as some are and he doesn't crack my top 20-25 WRs yet. Austin is easily a top 5 WR so moving a very risky Britt and a WR prospect was easy for me to do. Unless both WRs do well (i.e., both end up top 15) or one of them breaks into the top 5, I feel pretty comfortable with the Austin side. I actually love Britt's talent (which is why I bought in the first place), but simply can't afford the risk that Team B could. At the same time, I can easily see why he did it.'Dawg Pound 69 said:
JPeso
Footballguy
Subsequent to this trade, Team B made the following deal:Team B Gave: AJ Green
Team C Gave: Sidney Rice, 2012 1st, 2012 2nd (devy league, so picks aren't quite worth normal 1st/2nd)
Team C Core After:
Rodgers / Bradford / Ponder
Best / DeAngelo / Dan Thomas / Murray / Jacobs / M Bush
Green / V Jackson / Simpson / Nelson / V Brown
Cooley / Olsen
Team B Core After:
Romo / Newton
McCoy / Mendenhall / Spiller / T Richardson
Nicks / Dez / Wallace / Sidney / Julio / Little / Baldwin / Demaryius / Titus / Royal / Roberts
Graham / Hernandez
What this came down for me was ensuring I am still very competitive in the short-term after dealing Maclin for Baldwin and Spiller. I think I did that in adding Sidney Rice and still have a Julio, Baldwin, Little, Titus as rookies. Hoping the 1st is of the mid variety.
doowain
Footballguy
I'm Team A here. Hated trading Spiller/Baldwin and was on the fence about this one. I'm a big fan of both, but with Spiller as my RB5 and Britt as my only young potential stud, I had to make a move. It's very hard to pry WRs away from guys in this league, so I got what I felt was the best I could get. I will be running 4RB/2WR out most weeks, but at least with the addition of Maclin I'm not locked into that every week.
Instinctive
Footballguy
I would WAY rather have Maclin than those two guys. Nicely done.
sihaokills
Footballguy
thats a huge steal for you imo
sihaokills
Footballguy
thats a huge steal for you imo
sihaokills
Footballguy
I actually dont like on what Team B did. He is a win now team and just gave away a WR that could help him win the league'JPeso said:
chocolate bomber
Footballguy
I too would prefer the Maclin end, but it looks like a good deal for both.
The Captain
Footballguy
12 Team PPR
Team A gave: Tampa Mike & Matthew Stafford
Team B gave: Dez Bryant & DeMarco Murray.
Team B needed QB pretty badly.
Team A gave: Tampa Mike & Matthew Stafford
Team B gave: Dez Bryant & DeMarco Murray.
Team B needed QB pretty badly.
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Gave: Sidney Rice, Jacoby Ford, two 2012 1sts (one likely top 3)
Got: Hakeem Nicks
Starting lineup now:
Stafford
CJ2K, Wells
Megatron, Nicks, Wallace, Austin
Finley
Got: Hakeem Nicks
Starting lineup now:
Stafford
CJ2K, Wells
Megatron, Nicks, Wallace, Austin
Finley
Too much for Nicks. I love Nicks but that's a huge amount to give up.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
If Sidney Rice signs with anyone other than the Bears, Rams, or Pats (unlikely), his value stays he same or plummets (imagine him on the Panthers? Ugh.)
Love Ford, but he's the type of player that no matter how much I love, I'm not going to let him get in the way of aqcuiring a guy like Nicks. He's still a question mark, and this league doesn't even get return yards to boost his value.
I'm willing to trade two mystery firsts and a popular "sleeper" at WR to upgrade from Rice to Nicks.
And now I've got 3 of my top 5 dynasty WR's...and the 3 youngest ones--Calvin, Nicks, amd Wallace. Along with Miles, Finley, CJ2K, and Stafford, I'm willing to overpay a bit to lockdown the final piece to my team's core for the future.
Although I don't think I overpaid. There are some who believe that Nicks value is almost rivaling Calvins in Dynasty.
Love Ford, but he's the type of player that no matter how much I love, I'm not going to let him get in the way of aqcuiring a guy like Nicks. He's still a question mark, and this league doesn't even get return yards to boost his value.
I'm willing to trade two mystery firsts and a popular "sleeper" at WR to upgrade from Rice to Nicks.
And now I've got 3 of my top 5 dynasty WR's...and the 3 youngest ones--Calvin, Nicks, amd Wallace. Along with Miles, Finley, CJ2K, and Stafford, I'm willing to overpay a bit to lockdown the final piece to my team's core for the future.
Although I don't think I overpaid. There are some who believe that Nicks value is almost rivaling Calvins in Dynasty.
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FUBAR
Footballguy
Seems pretty even to me, and I'm a believer in Dez's talent. He's not worth much more than Mike.
You paid too much IMO... but *only* if that 1st does turn out to be top 3. If that's the case, then I think you gave too much. If those 1sts are in the bottom 5 or 6, you did fine. And I have Nicks even with Calvin. Time will tell on this one, but if you want an uberstud, you pay uberstud price, so kudos for getting your guy.
Scoonie Pencil
Footballguy
12 Team PPR (1.5ppr for TE)
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Flex, 1K, 1D
Team A gives:
Larry Fitzerald
Kellen Winslow
Team B gives:
Antonio Gates
Sidney Rice
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Flex, 1K, 1D
Team A gives:
Larry Fitzerald
Kellen Winslow
Team B gives:
Antonio Gates
Sidney Rice
Dez
Footballguy
Someone in my league wants a similar deal for Nicks and I am on the fence with it.They want 1.02 this year plus V-Jackson plus Moeaki.
Nicolas Cocaign
Footballguy
I got Nicks and Z Miller for Maclin and Jermike in a PPR with 1.5 PPR for TE.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Talk about getting a haul for CJ4.24I love this deal for Tasmania
sihaokills
Footballguy
Like what Team B got
sihaokills
Footballguy
Like Team A
Scoonie Pencil
Footballguy
Team A.12 Team PPRTeam A gotarren McFaddenPierre Garcon2013 3rdTeam B got: Hakeem Nicks 2013 2nd
sihaokills
Footballguy
Great job
JEWMAH9701
Footballguy
12-Team PPR Dynasty
Start QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE
Team A Gives:
Jordy Nelson
Felix Jones
Team B Gives:
Santonio Holmes
2011 Draft Pick 3.06
Start QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE
Team A Gives:
Jordy Nelson
Felix Jones
Team B Gives:
Santonio Holmes
2011 Draft Pick 3.06
JEWMAH9701
Footballguy
12-Team PPR Dynasty
Start QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE
Team A Gives:
Matt Ryan
Team B Gives:
Jay Cutler
Steve Smith (CAR)
2012 1st Round Pick
Start QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE
Team A Gives:
Matt Ryan
Team B Gives:
Jay Cutler
Steve Smith (CAR)
2012 1st Round Pick
FUBAR
Footballguy
Why? I don't value Bush, Murphy, or a 3rd that much and consider Steve Johnson probably worth a little more than the 1.08; CJ is worth a lot more than McFadden IMO.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
yeah i didnt get that comment either. Cj is prolly worth DMC and Stevie by himself. Not sure Bush, Murphy and a 3rd are worth the 1.08.
Instinctive
Footballguy
I would rather have DMC straight up, plus you get a guy who will either make sure you lock up OAK or could end up elsewhere and starting. 1.08 isn't gonna do anything for you anyway, and then you get a top 20 receiver on top of it? Yeah, a haul.
jeter23
Footballguy
I think you'd be in the minority on this one Instinctive.
Instinctive
Footballguy
I'm ok with that
sihaokills
Footballguy
Like Cutlers side here
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
by a mile...
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
I think I would take similar value for CJ.. He's not invincible..I'm ok with that
Dez
Footballguy
Interesting in my league the guy who had Steve Johnson before dealing him in this trade was offered 1.07, 1.09 and 2012 future 1st for S-Johnson and turned it down.People just don't want to trade established players for picks in my league because they want to try and win and taking picks lessens that chance for this year.
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Instinctive
Footballguy
I think he made the right move. Best case scenario for 1.09 is a guy who ends up being a top 15 receiver or so, isn't it? And even if the late firsts hit at 50% (I don't think they do even that well) that's one Steve Johnson out of it, with a 2012 1st. Why do that when you can actually have the top 15 receiver for a couple years right now?The only way you do that deal is if you know someone in your league likes to tinker in the rookie draft and you can move them for something that you would LOVE to move SJohnson for. In which case you're more of a middle man.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Seems rather pricey to me.
sihaokills
Footballguy
Clayton was a great player last year so I don't like what you did unless you have depth at WR
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
Mike Wallace
Owen Daniels
Rookie pick 2.8
Rookie pick 3.5
For
Tim tebow
Jimmy Graham
Rookie pick 1.3
2012 first round rookie pick (likely pick 7-12)
Owen Daniels
Rookie pick 2.8
Rookie pick 3.5
For
Tim tebow
Jimmy Graham
Rookie pick 1.3
2012 first round rookie pick (likely pick 7-12)
sihaokills
Footballguy
Good trade for both
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