2011 RB Thread (1 Viewer)

[duaneok66]

In making an effort to gauge what teams will do in free agency and the draft, I am posting a tentative list of what I think teams may do - please feel free to comment on any UFAs or possible cuts by teams listed . . .

NFC East

Eagles - McCoy

Cowboys - Jones, Choice (predicting Barber is gone)

Redskins - major need at RB

Giants - Bradshaw, Jacobs

NFC Central

Lions - Best, Smith

Bears - has Forte but they need a second RB to complement him

Packers - have Grant coming back but they could use a complementary piece

Vikings - ADP, Gerhart

NFC South

Falcons - Turner, Snelling

Panthers - Stewart , Goodson (predicting Williams is gone)

Bucs - has Blount but they at least need another rotational back - I think Blount is overrated in fantasy circles)

Saints - has a mess at RB but they are probably set with Thomas, Bush and Ivory

NFC West

Rams - Jackson is starting to wear down, might add a mid round back to help reduce SJ's carries

Cardinals - Wells supposedly is not the answer, Hightower is OK, they might add a rotational back

Seahawks - another mess, rotational RB is possible

49ers - Gore

AFC East

Jets - set with Greene but LT is replaceable

Patriots - rotational piece is possible

Bills - it will be hard for Spiller NOT to have an increased role next year

Dolphins - has two AARP runners - probably need a major piece

AFC North

Steelers - Mendenhall

Bengals - Benson, Scott (Benson is better than his perceived value)

Ravens - Rice

Browns - Hillis, Hardesty

AFC South

Colts - messy situation - some are calling for a new back but I think Addai gets resigned for a reasonable cost

Jaguars - MJD, Jennings

Titans - Johnson, Ringer

Texans - Foster, Tate

AFC West

Chiefs - has Charles but may get rotational back to replace Jones

Raiders - McFadden,, Bush

Broncos - Moreno is okay but wouldn't be surprised to see a rotational back added

Chargers - Mathews, Tolbert

 

[gethugefast1]

In trying to gauge what teams will do in free agency and the draft, I am posting a tentative list of what I think teams may do - please feel free to comment on any UFAs or possible cuts by teams listed . . .

NFC East

Eagles - McCoy

Cowboys - Jones, Choice (predicting Barber is gone)

Redskins - major need at RB

Giants - Bradshaw, Jacobs

NFC Central

Lions - Best, Smith

Bears - has Forte but they need a second RB to complement him

Packers - have Grant coming back but they could use a complementary piece

Vikings - ADP, Gerhart

NFC South

Falcons - Turner, Snelling

Panthers - Stewart , Goodson (predicting Williams is gone)

Bucs - has Blount but they at least need another rotational back - I think Blount is overrated in fantasy circles)

Saints - has a mess at RB but they are probably set with Thomas, Bush and Ivory

NFC West

Rams - Jackson is starting to wear down, might add a mid round back to help reduce SJ's carries

Cardinals - Wells supposedly is not the answer, Hightower is OK, they might add a rotational back

Seahawks - another mess, rotational RB is possible

49ers - Gore

AFC East

Jets - set with Greene but LT is replaceable

Patriots - rotational piece is possible...DWILL

Bills - it will be hard for Spiller NOT to have an increased role next year

Dolphins - has two AARP runners - probably need a major piece

AFC North

Steelers - Mendenhall

Bengals - Benson, Scott (Benson is better than his perceived value)

Ravens - Rice

Browns - Hillis, Hardesty

AFC South

Colts - messy situation - some are calling for a new back but I think Addai gets resigned for a reasonable cost

Jaguars - MJD, Jennings

Titans - Johnson, Ringer

Texans - Foster, Tate

AFC West

Chiefs - has Charles but may get rotational back to replace Jones

Raiders - McFadden,, Bush

Broncos - Moreno is okay but wouldn't be surprised to see a rotational back added

Chargers - Mathews, Tolbert

 

[Tigerbot Hesh]

Isn't Snelling a FA after this year? I could see him moving on if someone offered more playing time.

 

[duaneok66]

didnt have Snelling on the UFA list that I pulled up (KFFL) - Benson is a UFA but I think they resign him . . .

 

[Sweet Love]

I would not necessarily say Gore is in for SF at the start of the season. Guy has taken a beating over his career and hips are nothing to be messed with. I would not be surprised to see SF take a look at a guy like DWill on the hunch that Gore may not be back, or would need to be eased into the rotation when he does return.

 

[duaneok66]

I would not necessarily say Gore is in for SF at the start of the season. Guy has taken a beating over his career and hips are nothing to be messed with. I would not be surprised to see SF take a look at a guy like DWill on the hunch that Gore may not be back, or would need to be eased into the rotation when he does return.

nice call . . .

 

[menobrown]

I would not necessarily say Gore is in for SF at the start of the season. Guy has taken a beating over his career and hips are nothing to be messed with. I would not be surprised to see SF take a look at a guy like DWill on the hunch that Gore may not be back, or would need to be eased into the rotation when he does return.

Gore did not even need surgery. He's the focal point of the offense and due a very manageable $7 million. He's stone cold mortal lock to be the in SF to start the season next year.

 

[menobrown]

It's an interesting topic because I think we see massive movement at this position this off season. I took your list and made comments for the ones listed below. Deangelo Williams, Michael Bush, Bradshaw, Benson, Pierre Thomas, Addai and Ronnie Brown make a pretty big list of UFA's. Add in some possible salary cuts like Barber and Reggie Bush and I think we see major off season movement at the RB spot. Also I think the trend to RBBC increase next year due to the longer schedule.

NFC East

Giants - Bradshaw, Jacobs (Bradshaw is UFA. Don't think they resign him and keep Jacobs. My guess is one of them goes and possibly Danny Ware sees an increased role for a team that loves to utilize the two back attack)

NFC Central

Lions - Best, Smith (Smith is a RFA. Not sure they would want to bring him back or not. I think Best is more an every down runner than he's given credit for but they need someone else )

Bears - has Forte but they need a second RB to complement him(Just signed Chester for that role and think he'll continue to play the same role next year)

Packers - have Grant coming back but they could use a complementary piece (Starks and Brandon Jackson should fill the complementary role)

NFC South

Falcons - Turner, Snelling(Snelling is RFA but I think he returns)

Saints - has a mess at RB but they are probably set with Thomas, Bush and Ivory (Bush and/or PT will leave. PT is FA and Bush due $12 million. Only one I feel confident returns is Ivory but Ivory has no pass receiving skills as of now so he will absolutely need to be paired with a pass receiving back. My guess is Bush makes his contract more friendly and combines with Ivory and PT exits)

NFC West

Seahawks - another mess, rotational RB is possible(I think poor OL was main culprit for this teams play and think resources will go to OL. I think Lynch has a bounce back year next year and will still pair with Forsett. Seahawks are far from broke but base salaries for Lynch and Forsett combined barely go over 1.5 million next year which gives this team a chance to address a lot of other areas of need)

AFC East

Dolphins - has two AARP runners - probably need a major piece (Brown is UFA and as good as gone. Ricky also UFA but I think he might stay. Either way they add a major piece here)

AFC North

Bengals - Benson, Scott (Benson is better than his perceived value)(Benson is UFA and I don't see him returning)

Browns - Hillis, Hardesty(Hardesty has had some major injuries. Not sure how much the team can or will count on him next season. Be interested what they do with Hillis contract this off season. Entering final year of deal and only making $550,000 I would imagine a holdout is coming if they don't increase his pay)

AFC South

Colts - messy situation - some are calling for a new back but I think Addai gets resigned for a reasonable cost( I think Addai is gone but it does not look like Donald Brown is the answer. Expect a FA to fill this spot)

AFC West

Raiders - McFadden,, Bush (Michael Bush is UFA and I'll be stunned if he stays)

Chargers - Mathews, Tolbert (Tolbert is a FA but I think they keep him)

 

[captain_amazing]

AFC East

Jets - set with Greene but LT is replaceable

Patriots - rotational piece is possible...DWILL

Bills - it will be hard for Spiller NOT to have an increased role next year

Dolphins - has two AARP runners - probably need a major piece

During this season, I've heard some local writers (on radio) talk about the possibility of the Pats going after DWill in the offseason. While BJGE is no featured back, his solid, consistent, and unexpected production makes this scenario seem less and less likely IMO. But with Taylor and Morris likely gone, they will need some warm bodies for rotational purposes.

 

[BuckeyeChaos]

In making an effort to gauge what teams will do in free agency and the draft, I am posting a tentative list of what I think teams may do - please feel free to comment on any UFAs or possible cuts by teams listed . . .

NFC East

Eagles - McCoy Harrison also

Cowboys - Jones, Choice (predicting Barber is gone)

Redskins - major need at RB As long as Shannahan is there it will always be unsettled at RB

Giants - Bradshaw, Jacobs I think Jacobs is gone and they will run with the RBs on the roster

NFC Central

Lions - Best, Smith

Bears - has Forte but they need a second RB to complement him I think this is Chester Taylor's role, no

Packers - have Grant coming back but they could use a complementary piece I think the Starks era begins in 2011

Vikings - ADP, Gerhart

NFC South

Falcons - Turner, Snelling

Panthers - Stewart , Goodson (predicting Williams is gone)

Bucs - has Blount but they at least need another rotational back - I think Blount is overrated in fantasy circles)

Saints - has a mess at RB but they are probably set with Thomas, Bush and Ivory

NFC West

Rams - Jackson is starting to wear down, might add a mid round back to help reduce SJ's carries

Cardinals - Wells supposedly is not the answer, Hightower is OK, they might add a rotational back

Seahawks - another mess, rotational RB is possible Lynch and Forsett are plenty good enough with decent line play

49ers - Gore I sure would like to see what D Wiliams could do in this offense

AFC East

Jets - set with Greene but LT is replaceable another spot for D Williams

Patriots - rotational piece is possible

Bills - it will be hard for Spiller NOT to have an increased role next year

Dolphins - has two AARP runners - probably need a major piece a lot of mocks have Ingram going here

AFC North

Steelers - Mendenhall

Bengals - Benson, Scott (Benson is better than his perceived value)

Ravens - Rice

Browns - Hillis, Hardesty

AFC South

Colts - messy situation - some are calling for a new back but I think Addai gets resigned for a reasonable cost yet another sick spot for D Williams to wind up

Jaguars - MJD, Jennings

Titans - Johnson, Ringer

Texans - Foster, Tate

AFC West

Chiefs - has Charles but may get rotational back to replace Jones

Raiders - McFadden,, Bush

Broncos - Moreno is okay but wouldn't be surprised to see a rotational back added I would say Moreno is more than "okay"

Chargers - Mathews, Tolbert

 

[Go deep]

As i was saying in the dynasty thread, i think the Steelers could bring in another back. A guy with some speed who can catch would fit nicely in Pittsburgh.

 

[Hendo]

Im pretty sure ARI brass will give Wells every chance to show what hes got after seeing his rookie year, tossing him off like that is foolish at best.

And you do realize how good Moreno has been this year... Hes looking every bit a top back.

 

[duaneok66]

Im pretty sure ARI brass will give Wells every chance to show what hes got after seeing his rookie year, tossing him off like that is foolish at best.And you do realize how good Moreno has been this year... Hes looking every bit a top back.

footballoutsiders listed him has average . . .

 

[Eastwood]

If DeAngelo goes to NE, Colts, heck, pretty much anywhere outside of Carolina, I'd expect him to finish top 3 or 4 next year. Of course he'll be available in the 2nd in next year's drafts, maybe even early third?

 

[duaneok66]

If DeAngelo goes to NE, Colts, heck, pretty much anywhere outside of Carolina, I'd expect him to finish top 3 or 4 next year. Of course he'll be available in the 2nd in next year's drafts, maybe even early third?

thats the fun part of the offseason - tracking all the movements of the players . . . and then incorporating the rookies into the mix . . .

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

If any of you guys think Green Bay is going to entrust their running game to Grant and Jackson again in 2011, you're simply not paying attention. Expect an impact player to come in, either via draft of FA. Mark my words, Grant will be a 'change of pace' RB next season.

 

[Tau837]

If any of you guys think Green Bay is going to entrust their running game to Grant and Jackson again in 2011, you're simply not paying attention. Expect an impact player to come in, either via draft of FA. Mark my words, Grant will be a 'change of pace' RB next season.

Completely disagree. Grant had an excellent season last year, and his injury this year is not one that should affect him in the offseason or beyond, so he should be good to go next year.

 

[Go deep]

What are the top 5 teams most likely to land Deangelo? I think there are only 10 possibilities,and they are, in no particular order:

Bengals

Bucs

Colts

Dolphins

Jets

Packers

Patriots

Redskins

Saints

Steelers

Of those, i would think these are the top 5 most likely:

1. Redskins

2. Dolphins

3. Bucs

4. Colts

5. Bengals

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

If any of you guys think Green Bay is going to entrust their running game to Grant and Jackson again in 2011, you're simply not paying attention. Expect an impact player to come in, either via draft of FA. Mark my words, Grant will be a 'change of pace' RB next season.

Completely disagree. Grant had an excellent season last year, and his injury this year is not one that should affect him in the offseason or beyond, so he should be good to go next year.

Unless they get away from zone blocking this offseason, and/or fire McCarthy, Grant will never duplicate his '09 numbers again in this offense. He is an average RB who overachieved on an epic scale last season. They need a scat-back to compliment him (or vice-versa) and I believe they'll find one.

 

[Tau837]

If any of you guys think Green Bay is going to entrust their running game to Grant and Jackson again in 2011, you're simply not paying attention. Expect an impact player to come in, either via draft of FA. Mark my words, Grant will be a 'change of pace' RB next season.

Completely disagree. Grant had an excellent season last year, and his injury this year is not one that should affect him in the offseason or beyond, so he should be good to go next year.

Unless they get away from zone blocking this offseason, and/or fire McCarthy, Grant will never duplicate his '09 numbers again in this offense. He is an average RB who overachieved on an epic scale last season. They need a scat-back to compliment him (or vice-versa) and I believe they'll find one.

His 2009 season wasn't even as good as his 2007 season. He may or may not duplicate his 2009 numbers again, but that isn't particularly relevant to your contention that the Packers will either draft or acquire an impact RB. IMO you are wrong.

 

[cvnpoka]

He is an average RB who overachieved on an epic scale last season.

i guess you mean he overachieved for 3 straight seasons. and if we learned anything from the packers running game this season, i think its that grant is certainly above average.will he return to form? good chance he doesnt as 29 yr old rbs coming off a missed season arent very good gambles.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

You need 2 good RBs in this league if you hope to make a superbowl run. Grant is average, imo, even though his numbers in '09 prove otherwise (look again, '07 & '08 weren't that great). He's good in the passing game, though (receiving/blitz pickups), but he's very average as a pure runner (we'll agree to disagree here). Green Bay has only a couple holes left to fill before they're considered 'elite' entering this offseason, and RB is one of them. They need that home-run RB threat-- A Reggie Bush/Spiller type for early downs, a guy that can run behind an offensive line clearly designed for pass blocking and finesse. A guy that can make something happen in single-back sets. Grant is not that guy.

 

[Tau837]

He is an average RB who overachieved on an epic scale last season.

i guess you mean he overachieved for 3 straight seasons. and if we learned anything from the packers running game this season, i think its that grant is certainly above average.will he return to form? good chance he doesnt as 29 yr old rbs coming off a missed season arent very good gambles.

He doesn't turn 29 until the end of next season (December 9). He is not old. Also, all missed seasons are not created equal. His injury is not one that should affect him in any way this offseason or next season.

 

[Tau837]

You need 2 good RBs in this league if you hope to make a superbowl run. Grant is average, imo, even though his numbers in '09 prove otherwise (look again, '07 & '08 weren't that great). He's good in the passing game, though (receiving/blitz pickups), but he's very average as a pure runner (we'll agree to disagree here). Green Bay has only a couple holes left to fill before they're considered 'elite' entering this offseason, and RB is one of them. They need that home-run RB threat-- A Reggie Bush/Spiller type for early downs, a guy that can run behind an offensive line clearly designed for pass blocking and finesse. A guy that can make something happen in single-back sets. Grant is not that guy.

His 2007 season was indeed great. From the time he was given a role in week 8 (game 7), he was #2 in the league in both rushing yards and rushing TDs, and he averaged 5.1 ypc. Then in 2008 he held out and had to play through a hamstring problem in the first half of the season as a result. Then in 2009 he had an excellent season. You're way off base here. They have more than a couple of holes to fill before they will be legitimately considered a Super Bowl contender, and RB is not near the top of the list.

 

[two_dollars]

I think DWill stays in Carolina next year, along with Stewart AND Goodsen. Yes, Carolina IS just that dumb.

 

[Cleat Spike]

If DeAngelo goes to NE, Colts, heck, pretty much anywhere outside of Carolina, I'd expect him to finish top 3 or 4 next year. Of course he'll be available in the 2nd in next year's drafts, maybe even early third?

What are you going to have your drafts before he goes to this new team? Look at Mathews this year and we actually know what D-Will can do.

 

[njherdfan]

As for the Bucs, I think they might want Huggins to be the other rotational back. Any Bucs homers have thoughts on this?

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I think DWill stays in Carolina next year, along with Stewart AND Goodsen. Yes, Carolina IS just that dumb.

They may be, but their owner is also epically cheap. Almost no way in the Nine Hells they re-sign him, merely because it will cost too much.

 

[gandalas]

Does nobody in this thread understand the difference between resign and re-sign? Pretty much opposite meanings...