2012-13 English Premier League Fantasy Football (1 Viewer)

[NewlyRetired]

Well, I want the OPTION of deciding to keep Hulk over any of the other three forwards if he does get classified as a forward...

I realize we're getting into uncharted waters here but I think stashing players in a thin position goes against the spirit of the rules.

I think a re-pick here may be the right decision and Eephus should add some wording to the rules that covers this case.But in this specific case, I don't care too much as long as he relinquishes rights to one forward I am ok.

 

[gianmarco]

Well, I want the OPTION of deciding to keep Hulk over any of the other three forwards if he does get classified as a forward...

I realize we're getting into uncharted waters here but I think stashing players in a thin position goes against the spirit of the rules.

This was exactly what I asked and why I asked it. Are you able to assign an empty slot to a guy not currently in the EPL and then adjust if he ends up coming? I would think so as it's a gamble that the player comes to begin with but obviously defer to whatever is chosen.ETA--I was considering Hulk with my pick but didn't think I could randomly assign him as a MF so just went another route.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Eephus if you are acting commissioner, we need a final hard decision soon so that Iron_Far does not miss any more picks if you decide to make him repick.

 

[Eephus]

It's a slippery slope but I don't want to see the draft devolve into people drafting Cavani as their second keeper.

 

[Sebowski]

Williams, D Swansea $5,000,000.00

 

[Christo]

Well, I want the OPTION of deciding to keep Hulk over any of the other three forwards if he does get classified as a forward...

Why should you get that? You have three forwards.

 

[Iron_Far]

Got a pretty busy day, so I'll let Hulk go and just repick:

10.5 Ash Williams Swansea Defender £5

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

 

[Iron_Far]

Williams, D Swansea $5,000,000.00

 

[Sebowski]

Chelsea will probably play Hulk on the wing, so there is a chance he gets classified as a MF. I think that is enough to let this one count. If he makes it into the system he'll have to drop a F into the clone pool and pick up a MF.

 

[Iron_Far]

Well, I want the OPTION of deciding to keep Hulk over any of the other three forwards if he does get classified as a forward...

Why should you get that? You have three forwards.

Because it's not in the rules that I shouldn't?

 

[NewlyRetired]

Iron Far pick again please as Sebowski beat you. I will hold my pick for a minute or so.

 

[Sebowski]

 

[NewlyRetired]

What a mess

 

[Christo]

It seems that people don't understand what taking a chance means. If you go out on a limb by drafting a player you hope will pan out you don't also get a benefit if that player doesn't pan out.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

It seems that people don't understand what taking a chance means. If you go out on a limb by drafting a player you hope will pan out you don't also get a benefit if that player doesn't pan out.

Well, the fact that he may have to throw a player back and anyone could clone him would be the chance.I'm fine with the Eephus ruling though.

 

[Christo]

Well, I want the OPTION of deciding to keep Hulk over any of the other three forwards if he does get classified as a forward...

Why should you get that? You have three forwards.

Because it's not in the rules that I shouldn't?

You get to draft three forwards. You have already drafted three forwards. If Hulk is categorized as a forward he will be the fourth forward you drafted which is against the rules.

 

[NewlyRetired]

In the hopes Iron_Far won't pick the player we want, I am going to hold off drafting until this is settled to affectively pause the draft.

I am waiting to hear from Acer anyway.

 

[gianmarco]

It seems that people don't understand what taking a chance means. If you go out on a limb by drafting a player you hope will pan out you don't also get a benefit if that player doesn't pan out.

The risk is not getting a player here that definitely pans out. If he's wrong, he gets a 16th round value player vs. a 10th round value player by speculating and missing.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Well, I want the OPTION of deciding to keep Hulk over any of the other three forwards if he does get classified as a forward...

Why should you get that? You have three forwards.

Because it's not in the rules that I shouldn't?

You get to draft three forwards. You have already drafted three forwards. If Hulk is categorized as a forward he will be the fourth forward you drafted which is against the rules.

Rules link broken.

 

[gianmarco]

Depending on how this works out, I want the $25 that I haven't paid yet returned to me. Thanks.

 

[Sebowski]

We could use the Champions League fantasy site to determine positions of players not in the EPl. That wouldn't help for players outside Europe though.

My link

Hulk is a Forward on there, FWIW

 

[NewlyRetired]

In the hopes Iron_Far won't pick the player we want, I am going to hold off drafting until this is settled to affectively pause the draft. I am waiting to hear from Acer anyway.

ignore me. We are not up. Christo is.

 

[Bonzai]

Williams, D Swansea $5,000,000.00

lol

 

[Good Posting Judge]

HulkDown

 

[Sebowski]

In the hopes Iron_Far won't pick the player we want, I am going to hold off drafting until this is settled to affectively pause the draft. I am waiting to hear from Acer anyway.

ignore me. We are not up. Christo is.

I'll wait to PM him that he is up until this gets figured out. That should do it.

 

[AcerFC]

In the hopes Iron_Far won't pick the player we want, I am going to hold off drafting until this is settled to affectively pause the draft. I am waiting to hear from Acer anyway.

ignore me. We are not up. Christo is.

 

[NewlyRetired]

So what is happening? Both Iron_Far and Eephus disappeared.

 

[Sebowski]

Or we can use the each team's wiki page to determine players positions. We'll just all pinky swear not to change the page. Hulk is a Forward on there.

Neymar is listed as a Keeper

 

[Bonzai]

So what is happening? Both Iron_Far and Eephus disappeared.

HULK SMASH THIS DRAFT

 

[NewlyRetired]

10 5 131 Iron_Far. . . .. Hulk (???????????????)

10 6 132 Eephus. . . . .. Fletcher

10 7 133 CharvTRETup. . . Ferdinand

10 8 134 Bonzai. . . . .. Etherington

10 9 135 Moe. . . . . . . Osman

10 10 136 Sebowski. . . .. Williams

10 11 137 Christo. . . . . OTC until xx:58

10 12 138 AcerRetired. . .

10 13 139 azgroover. . . .

10 14 140 GoodPostingJudge

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Re-draft?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Re-draft?

Portugese league?

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Re-draft?

Only fair thing, really...

 

[Iron_Far]

10.5 Neil Taylor Swansea Defender £5

 

[NewlyRetired]

Thanks Iron_Far

Eephus should add some wording to the first post when he gets a chance.

 

[Sebowski]

Christo PM'd

 

[Sebowski]

Thanks Iron_FarEephus should add some wording to the first post when he gets a chance.

I like the suggest someone brought up about using Wiki or the Champions League site for positions

 

[NewlyRetired]

10 5 131 Iron_Far. . . .. Taylor

10 6 132 Eephus. . . . .. Fletcher

10 7 133 CharvTRETup. . . Ferdinand

10 8 134 Bonzai. . . . .. Etherington

10 9 135 Moe. . . . . . . Osman

10 10 136 Sebowski. . . .. Williams

10 11 137 Christo. . . . . OTC until xx:58

10 12 138 AcerRetired. . .

10 13 139 azgroover. . . .

10 14 140 GoodPostingJudge

 

[Christo]

With pick 10.11 Real Christo selects . . .

Luka Modric, MID, TOT, 7.5

 

[NewlyRetired]

I emailed Acer. He will be picking shortly.

 

[Eephus]

Thanks Iron_FarEephus should add some wording to the first post when he gets a chance.

I like the suggest someone brought up about using Wiki or the Champions League site for positions

Neither is authoritative or necessary IMO. Hulk can be drafted at any position. The position should be declared at the time of selection, as we've been doing all along. The FPL site rules require teams to have a valid game week 1 roster (2-5-5-3 and <100M cap). If the speculative pick doesn't meet both criteria, the owner has to make a replacement pick to fill the position slot. The replaced player goes back into the undrafted clone pool.

 

[Sebowski]

With pick 10.11 Real Christo selects . . .Luka Modric, MID, TOT, 7.5

Good luck with that.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

With pick 10.11 Real Christo selects . . .Luka Modric, MID, TOT, 7.5

Huh. Is there any chance he's going to stay? I thought the bags were packed.

 

[gianmarco]

Thanks Iron_FarEephus should add some wording to the first post when he gets a chance.

I like the suggest someone brought up about using Wiki or the Champions League site for positions

Neither is authoritative or necessary IMO. Hulk can be drafted at any position. The position should be declared at the time of selection, as we've been doing all along. The FPL site rules require teams to have a valid game week 1 roster (2-5-5-3 and <100M cap). If the speculative pick doesn't meet both criteria, the owner has to make a replacement pick to fill the position slot. The replaced player goes back into the undrafted clone pool.

Hmm, so should Iron get Hulk back? Before any more picks are made, we should get this decided, let him choose which way he's going, and let the other guy be available. I'm guessing he wants Hulk and put the Swansea defender back in the mix....

 

[NewlyRetired]

Thanks Iron_FarEephus should add some wording to the first post when he gets a chance.

I like the suggest someone brought up about using Wiki or the Champions League site for positions

Neither is authoritative or necessary IMO. Hulk can be drafted at any position. The position should be declared at the time of selection, as we've been doing all along. The FPL site rules require teams to have a valid game week 1 roster (2-5-5-3 and <100M cap). If the speculative pick doesn't meet both criteria, the owner has to make a replacement pick to fill the position slot. The replaced player goes back into the undrafted clone pool.

Hmm, so should Iron get Hulk back? Before any more picks are made, we should get this decided, let him choose which way he's going, and let the other guy be available. I'm guessing he wants Hulk and put the Swansea defender back in the mix....

Crap. This is why we were asking for an absolute definitive ruling. This seems to screw Iron_Far who did not need to re-pick. Also screws Gianmarco who was thinking of drafting Hulk earlier but didn't because he ran out of forward positions.How long until someone drafts a striker as their back up keeper?

 

[Sebowski]

Thanks Iron_FarEephus should add some wording to the first post when he gets a chance.

I like the suggest someone brought up about using Wiki or the Champions League site for positions

Neither is authoritative or necessary IMO. Hulk can be drafted at any position. The position should be declared at the time of selection, as we've been doing all along. The FPL site rules require teams to have a valid game week 1 roster (2-5-5-3 and <100M cap). If the speculative pick doesn't meet both criteria, the owner has to make a replacement pick to fill the position slot. The replaced player goes back into the undrafted clone pool.

Hmm, so should Iron get Hulk back? Before any more picks are made, we should get this decided, let him choose which way he's going, and let the other guy be available. I'm guessing he wants Hulk and put the Swansea defender back in the mix....

Crap. This is why we were asking for an absolute definitive ruling. This seems to screw Iron_Far who did not need to re-pick. Also screws Az-Goover who was thinking of drafting Hulk earlier but didn't because he ran out of forward positions.How long until someone drafts a striker as their back up keeper?

When am I up again?

 

[azgroover]

Thanks Iron_Far

Eephus should add some wording to the first post when he gets a chance.

I like the suggest someone brought up about using Wiki or the Champions League site for positions

Neither is authoritative or necessary IMO. Hulk can be drafted at any position. The position should be declared at the time of selection, as we've been doing all along. The FPL site rules require teams to have a valid game week 1 roster (2-5-5-3 and <100M cap). If the speculative pick doesn't meet both criteria, the owner has to make a replacement pick to fill the position slot. The replaced player goes back into the undrafted clone pool.

Hmm, so should Iron get Hulk back? Before any more picks are made, we should get this decided, let him choose which way he's going, and let the other guy be available. I'm guessing he wants Hulk and put the Swansea defender back in the mix....

Crap. This is why we were asking for an absolute definitive ruling. This seems to screw Iron_Far who did not need to re-pick. Also screws Az-Goover who was thinking of drafting Hulk earlier but didn't because he ran out of forward positions.

How long until someone drafts a striker as their back up keeper?

Not me. I'm not that sophisticated with this yet.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

YES!

 

[NewlyRetired]

Thanks Iron_Far

Eephus should add some wording to the first post when he gets a chance.

I like the suggest someone brought up about using Wiki or the Champions League site for positions

Neither is authoritative or necessary IMO. Hulk can be drafted at any position. The position should be declared at the time of selection, as we've been doing all along. The FPL site rules require teams to have a valid game week 1 roster (2-5-5-3 and <100M cap). If the speculative pick doesn't meet both criteria, the owner has to make a replacement pick to fill the position slot. The replaced player goes back into the undrafted clone pool.

Hmm, so should Iron get Hulk back? Before any more picks are made, we should get this decided, let him choose which way he's going, and let the other guy be available. I'm guessing he wants Hulk and put the Swansea defender back in the mix....

Crap. This is why we were asking for an absolute definitive ruling. This seems to screw Iron_Far who did not need to re-pick. Also screws Az-Goover who was thinking of drafting Hulk earlier but didn't because he ran out of forward positions.

How long until someone drafts a striker as their back up keeper?

Not me. I'm not that sophisticated with this yet.

I meant Gianmarco.