ConnSKINS26
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Hate trades where one guy gets all the best pieces.
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2012 Offseason Dynasty Trades (2 Viewers)
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
Just sent Gabbert away for James Starks in return.
I have an owner who now wants Starks in exchange for McGahee. I own Hillman and he owns Alex Brown. But I am thinking this is me giving up a bit much. McGahee has to be near the end. Whereas Starks is only 26. Thoughts?
I have an owner who now wants Starks in exchange for McGahee. I own Hillman and he owns Alex Brown. But I am thinking this is me giving up a bit much. McGahee has to be near the end. Whereas Starks is only 26. Thoughts?
valhallan
Footballguy
I'm thinking you hang on to Starks and send some thank you chocolates to the new Gabbert owner.
ctrlaltdefeat
Footballguy
12 team ppr
Victor Cruz for David Wilson and Kendall Wright
Victor Cruz for David Wilson and Kendall Wright
sspunisher
Footballguy
Bit of a blockbuster here. Our starting lineups have 12 offensive starters so keep that in mind.
Team A Receives:
Megatron
3.06
4.06
Team B Receives
Hakeem Nicks
Jeremy Maclin
2.05
Team A:
He has enough depth on his bench to nicely cover the loss of two high quality starters.
Team B:
Has guys like Kendricks and Jabar Gaffney in his starting lineup and a much weaker bench. He told me upgrading his depth was important. Also he's not really a contender this year so I don't think Nick's injury played in his decision.
Team A Receives:
Megatron
3.06
4.06
Team B Receives
Hakeem Nicks
Jeremy Maclin
2.05
Team A:
He has enough depth on his bench to nicely cover the loss of two high quality starters.
Team B:
Has guys like Kendricks and Jabar Gaffney in his starting lineup and a much weaker bench. He told me upgrading his depth was important. Also he's not really a contender this year so I don't think Nick's injury played in his decision.
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sspunisher
Footballguy
I agree if the only option is McGahee. I'd dry to dump Starks for someone else while his value is decent.
Donsmith753
Footballguy
Just did this in a 16 team half PPR
First should be late (guaranteed playoff team)
Second is about the same
Corstorphine Steelers gave up:
Murray, DeMarco DAL RB
Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from Craigentinny Chargers
Kaunas Buckeyes gave up:
Forte, Matt CHI RB
Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Corstorphine Steelers
First should be late (guaranteed playoff team)
Second is about the same
Corstorphine Steelers gave up:
Murray, DeMarco DAL RB
Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from Craigentinny Chargers
Kaunas Buckeyes gave up:
Forte, Matt CHI RB
Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Corstorphine Steelers
Sabertooth
Footballguy
He also has Donald Brown (I own Delone Carter). I am thinking either asking for Brown for Starks or sending him Carter for McGahee.
sspunisher
Footballguy
Starks for Brown seems fair for both sides. I'd def prefer Brown over Starks this year, even more so if I had Delone Carter as insurance.Unless Indy drafts a RB in the 1st round the next couple of years, you shouldn't have a problem trying to acquire any relevant rookies in the future to monopolize their run game.
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Instinctive
Footballguy
I would send Starks for Brown, regardless of my team situation, 100 times out of 100. Always. Immediately. If you can do that, I'd be all over it. That said - I'm trying to get both Brown and Starks in a lot of places - I think they're both undervalued. There's a few trades of each scattered over the last few pages to gage value, iirc.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I offered him Starks for Brown and also Delone Carter for McGahee. See if he snags one.
Donsmith753
Footballguy
Thoughts on this?
boojee
Footballguy
I think these 2 rbs are closer to even when factoring in Forte's holdout/injury risk - so I would take Murray and the pick upgrade. Wouldn't want either as RB1s but they are ideal high ceiling RB2s.
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The Clamface
Footballguy
I like the Demarco and the 1st side.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Id take Demarco and the first, unless I was a uber contender.In a rebuild I was offered Forte for 1.02, turned it down
Sebowski
Footballguy
I think Julio is greatly overrated
1.5 was probably an exaggeration, but I'd easily rather have Rich, Luck, RG3, and Martin over him. I would consider Wilson depending on need. I don't see Julio that much better than Blackmon. That's my opinion on it. I've been wrong before. No one has ever been right on every single player in the league. Time will tell.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Been a contender for a couple of yrs but I'm moving the older pieces around
Brady for RGIII and a couple of 3rds
J Cook for J Bladwin
Boldin for Holmes
Gates got DHB
QB / 1 RB / 3 WR / 1 TE / 2 FLEX / PK / 2 DL / 3 LB / 2 DB / & 2 Flex IDP
(Teams are only allowed to Start a Max of 4 WRs and 4 LBs a week)
Scoring (6 Pt TD / .5 PPR RB, 1 WR, TE / 2 Solo, 1 Assist, 4 special plays)
QB P Manning, RGIII ®
RB Bradshaw, Sporles, Tate, Goodson, T jones
WR Harvin, Collie, T Smith, J Baldwin, DHB, S Holmes, Amendola, L Jones, James Jones, J Simpson, G Tate
TE F Davis, Housler, Z Miller, E Moore
PK Akers
DL Dumervil, Edwards, M Johnson
LB Angerer, Bishop, Weatherspoon, D Washington, Wagner ®, Z Brown ®, DDavis ®, Mouton
DB Branch, Godfrey, Griffin
Think I'm done moving players for now, depending on how the season goes I'll move Bradshaw / Sporles / Peyton, but I'm still a playoff team right now (8 out of 14 make it)
Brady for RGIII and a couple of 3rds
J Cook for J Bladwin
Boldin for Holmes
Gates got DHB
QB / 1 RB / 3 WR / 1 TE / 2 FLEX / PK / 2 DL / 3 LB / 2 DB / & 2 Flex IDP
(Teams are only allowed to Start a Max of 4 WRs and 4 LBs a week)
Scoring (6 Pt TD / .5 PPR RB, 1 WR, TE / 2 Solo, 1 Assist, 4 special plays)
QB P Manning, RGIII ®
RB Bradshaw, Sporles, Tate, Goodson, T jones
WR Harvin, Collie, T Smith, J Baldwin, DHB, S Holmes, Amendola, L Jones, James Jones, J Simpson, G Tate
TE F Davis, Housler, Z Miller, E Moore
PK Akers
DL Dumervil, Edwards, M Johnson
LB Angerer, Bishop, Weatherspoon, D Washington, Wagner ®, Z Brown ®, DDavis ®, Mouton
DB Branch, Godfrey, Griffin
Think I'm done moving players for now, depending on how the season goes I'll move Bradshaw / Sporles / Peyton, but I'm still a playoff team right now (8 out of 14 make it)
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Thanks for your opinion. I understand that is all we are ALL are throwing out there (opinions that is). When watching the rookie Julio Jones last year I am not sure how someone does not come away impressed. My opinion is that he is miles above Blackmon (and most current NFL receivers) physically and professional and also works under a top notch organization with a franchise quarterback. I see a future top 5 receiver withstanding injury. It is my opinion and has been that Blackmon is slightly overrated due to the receiver class of this year not being very top heavy. I think he can develop into a nice player but I don't see him as one with elite skills like Julio. Throw in his poor decision-making and you will not find him on any of my squads unless I am absolutely able to steal him.I think Julio is greatly overrated
Donsmith753
Footballguy
This in spades, my only real concerns with Julio are injury and even then they're minor.Thanks for your opinion. I understand that is all we are ALL are throwing out there (opinions that is). When watching the rookie Julio Jones last year I am not sure how someone does not come away impressed. My opinion is that he is miles above Blackmon (and most current NFL receivers) physically and professional and also works under a top notch organization with a franchise quarterback. I see a future top 5 receiver withstanding injury. It is my opinion and has been that Blackmon is slightly overrated due to the receiver class of this year not being very top heavy. I think he can develop into a nice player but I don't see him as one with elite skills like Julio. Throw in his poor decision-making and you will not find him on any of my squads unless I am absolutely able to steal him.I think Julio is greatly overrated
ctrlaltdefeat
Footballguy
Anyone who thinks Blackmon is on the same level as Julio jones doesn't know football. Yes, it's their opinion but it's just flat out wrong. Trying to convince someone to make a trade probably.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
Tell us more oh wise one.Jesus, where do you people come from?
Dez
Footballguy
10 team non PPR
Tennessee gave up:
Newton, Cam CAR QB
Year 2012 Draft Pick 3.07
Year 2013 Round 4 Draft Pick from Tennessee
Year 2013 Round 4 Draft Pick from Oklahoma
Year 2013 Round 4 Draft Pick from Los Angeles
Oklahoma gave up:
Hightower, Tim WAS RB
Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.02
Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.05
Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Oklahoma
Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Harlem
Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from Oklahoma
Oklahoma basically turned Crabtree/Gore/Hightower into Newton thru a series of trades.
First traded Gore for 2 2nds and a 3rd
Then Traded Crabtree for a future 1st
Then traded that 1st for 1.06/2.03
Then traded the 1.06/2.03 for 1.02
Then the trade above
Tennessee gave up:
Newton, Cam CAR QB
Year 2012 Draft Pick 3.07
Year 2013 Round 4 Draft Pick from Tennessee
Year 2013 Round 4 Draft Pick from Oklahoma
Year 2013 Round 4 Draft Pick from Los Angeles
Oklahoma gave up:
Hightower, Tim WAS RB
Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.02
Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.05
Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Oklahoma
Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Harlem
Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from Oklahoma
Oklahoma basically turned Crabtree/Gore/Hightower into Newton thru a series of trades.
First traded Gore for 2 2nds and a 3rd
Then Traded Crabtree for a future 1st
Then traded that 1st for 1.06/2.03
Then traded the 1.06/2.03 for 1.02
Then the trade above
Nice work by the guy turning Crabs/Gore/Hightower into Newton. I will say I like the value the team giving Newton got, though. In a 10 team league it's generally easier to find a decent starting QB, so I think it's not a bad deal there provided he has someone good enough to replace Newton and not lose a ton (Rivers, Eli, Romo type).
Dez
Footballguy
He has Rodgers
Ah. I guess that'll have to do.
Instinctive
Footballguy
14 team 0.5 ppr dynasty QB/2RB/2WR/1RW/1RWT/1TE
Team A sends:
2013 1st round pick (back half)
Team B sends:
James Starks
Rashad Jennings
Team A sends:
2013 1st round pick (back half)
Team B sends:
James Starks
Rashad Jennings
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Pick'Instinctive said:
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Stacked at WR, 12 team ppr league.
Sent A. Johnson, pick 15, Finely, Winslow, Benn
For Gronk and 1.4 and Ed Dickson
Other owner sent 1.10 for Vjax
Sent A. Johnson, pick 15, Finely, Winslow, Benn
For Gronk and 1.4 and Ed Dickson
Other owner sent 1.10 for Vjax
Mighty Mice
Footballguy
Overhauled my roster with a pair of trades - see where these fall when evaluated dyno value.
McFadden and DJax
for
Charles and Dez
then about two weeks later...
Dez
for
Jordy and Torrey Smith
so overall:
McFadden and Djax
for
Charles, Nelson, Torrey Smith
IMO I got Nelson for more or less free as I value DMac and Charles close, and DJax and Smith close.
McFadden and DJax
for
Charles and Dez
then about two weeks later...
Dez
for
Jordy and Torrey Smith
so overall:
McFadden and Djax
for
Charles, Nelson, Torrey Smith
IMO I got Nelson for more or less free as I value DMac and Charles close, and DJax and Smith close.
Lott's Fingertip
Footballguy
The owner that traded for Dez must be deep at WR.
I don't think it's that bad, though I'd rather have Dez. But it's not like Jordy isn't a good WR and Smith has a shot to be very good as well.The owner that traded for Dez must be deep at WR.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Really? I feel like I would prefer Starks over most/all the 1.10 or later picks this year.
Dragon1952
Footballguy
12 team, 1 PPR, 1QB, 1-3RB, 2-4WR, 1-3TE
Team A gave Percy Harvin, Jordan Cameron
Team B gave Wes Welker, Santonio Holmes
Team A gave Percy Harvin, Jordan Cameron
Team B gave Wes Welker, Santonio Holmes
I think Welker plays this season out under the franchise tag, but then leaves, destroying his fantasy value. So I got Harvin side here
Dragon1952
Footballguy
Yeah, I agree that if Welker is one more and out (with the Pats) that the Harvin side wins but if I'm not mistaken Welker can play under the franchise tag for the next 2 years, and if he does end up with a 3 or 4 yr contract then it could end up being a winner for Team B over the next 3-4 yrs. I think Holmes can only go up. Personally, I think the Pats need to retain Welker.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
You're underestimating Welker's talent here IMO. He's a really good football player; his route-running and short area quickness are absolutely elite. Obviously his numbers would likely go down if he left NE, but he'd still be fantasy relevant (90-1000-5 range maybe) with another team, particularly in PPR.
I know he is, but right now he's been a PPR monster. I know he finished no.1 last year in my league. He wasn't superb before Brady. I think he's going to fall a bit this year anyway. If he leaves, who knows where he could end up? In DET he'd be amazing, but in CLE he'd fall off a cliff.
JPeso
Footballguy
Brown is on the wrong side.
JPeso
Footballguy
It's Harvin side regardless of what happens with Welker.
JPeso
Footballguy
The net is fine but I strongly disagree that DMC and Charles are close.
Tau837
Footballguy
The_Head_Ape
Footballguy
10 team start 2 QB/2 RB/4 WR
QB Sam Bradford
WR Roddy White
WR D. Bowe
for
WR Calvin Johnson
QB Sam Bradford
WR Roddy White
WR D. Bowe
for
WR Calvin Johnson
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