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Yeah - I like what you got there.You win easily.14 Team (0 PPR RB/1 WR/2 TE) MOX LeagueI gave: A Bradshaw, Santana Moss, 2012 2.07 draft pickI got: Eric Decker, Randall Cobb, 2012 2.11 draft pick
Yeah - I like what you got there.You win easily.14 Team (0 PPR RB/1 WR/2 TE) MOX LeagueI gave: A Bradshaw, Santana Moss, 2012 2.07 draft pickI got: Eric Decker, Randall Cobb, 2012 2.11 draft pick
Moved Bradshaw in another MOX league today. 14 Team (.5 PPR RB/1 WR/1.5 TE)I gave: Bradshaw + my 2013 1st. (1.10+?? but that is just my guess)I got: J Maclin + Jacob Tamme + a 2013 2nd. (Probably a mid 2nd rounder? Gave up a round or so?)Obviously Maclin is the main piece, but really like the gamble that Tamme hits the ground running w/ Manning, and 1.5 PPR won't hurt any.14 Team (0 PPR RB/1 WR/2 TE) MOX LeagueI gave: A Bradshaw, Santana Moss, 2012 2.07 draft pickI got: Eric Decker, Randall Cobb, 2012 2.11 draft pick
Agreed. It's not fair to anyone and I'd be pissed if I was on either side. While I would not have made that trade if I was team A, its certainly not impossible that by next season that deal will look GREAT for him. What happens if down the road Nicks continues on the path of always being banged up and Baldwin and Floyd are top 15 WRs - does the league say "oops...my bad".Leagues that allow vetoing or voting on trades are an absolute joke. The commissioner, if at all competent, should be able to sniff out collusion. If he suspects it, THEN you put it up for vote. Allowing other owners to manage the rest of the teams in the league blows my mind. Those votes are always selfish. I'd venture to guess that most that vote for a veto are doing so for the benefit of their own team, not the benefit of the league.I would leave that league immediately.I can't believe my league just vetoed the deal.....Then he definately should keep Nicks.What if he doesn't plan to play FF for the rest of the decade?Awful. That's why that team is rebuilding. Nicks is one of the guys you build around for the rest of the decade, not trade away for a pile of complete unknowns.Team A receives (rebuilding)Michael FloydJon BaldwinRyan TannenhillTeam B receives (top 4 team)Hakeem Nicks![]()
Good haul for Rashad for sure.14 team 0.5 ppr, multiple flex spotsTeam A sends: 1st round, 3rd round (both 2013)Team B sends: Rashad Jennings, 4th round (2013)Team B originally sent a 1st rounder in 2013 for James Starks and Rashad Jennings.
How can you know this?Traded away Shonn Greene, Torrey Smith, and 1.10 for a 2013 first rounder that will be at worst #2.
Completely fair trade.Agreed. It's not fair to anyone and I'd be pissed if I was on either side. While I would not have made that trade if I was team A, its certainly not impossible that by next season that deal will look GREAT for him. What happens if down the road Nicks continues on the path of always being banged up and Baldwin and Floyd are top 15 WRs - does the league say "oops...my bad".Leagues that allow vetoing or voting on trades are an absolute joke. The commissioner, if at all competent, should be able to sniff out collusion. If he suspects it, THEN you put it up for vote. Allowing other owners to manage the rest of the teams in the league blows my mind. Those votes are always selfish. I'd venture to guess that most that vote for a veto are doing so for the benefit of their own team, not the benefit of the league.I would leave that league immediately.I can't believe my league just vetoed the deal.....Then he definately should keep Nicks.What if he doesn't plan to play FF for the rest of the decade?Awful. That's why that team is rebuilding. Nicks is one of the guys you build around for the rest of the decade, not trade away for a pile of complete unknowns.Team A receives (rebuilding)Michael FloydJon BaldwinRyan TannenhillTeam B receives (top 4 team)Hakeem Nicks![]()
Agreed. This team just added 3 new pieces. I dont like Greene myself but if you have Powell than it is a nice set. Smith is a great addition also. I just dont see a pick being as high as one thinks. In my home league last year an owner gave up a ton for what he thought was the worst team by far. That pick ended up 1.6. He used all those picks to bring in help and than 2 other teams went Suck for Luck in 2QB league.How can you know this?Traded away Shonn Greene, Torrey Smith, and 1.10 for a 2013 first rounder that will be at worst #2.
Obviously nothing is guaranteed. In a 10 team league his team averaged 120 points last year. #8 avg 160. His roster pre-draft isAgreed. This team just added 3 new pieces. I dont like Greene myself but if you have Powell than it is a nice set. Smith is a great addition also. I just dont see a pick being as high as one thinks. In my home league last year an owner gave up a ton for what he thought was the worst team by far. That pick ended up 1.6. He used all those picks to bring in help and than 2 other teams went Suck for Luck in 2QB league.How can you know this?Traded away Shonn Greene, Torrey Smith, and 1.10 for a 2013 first rounder that will be at worst #2.
The contract just puts this on the ridiculous side of things, considering Charles probably won't be quite right for half the year...Kneejerk Mathews trade: 10 team, start 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex. 5 yr max contractsTeam T gave up Ryan Mathews (3 yr contract)Team W gave up Jamaal Charles (1 yr), Randy Moss (open contract), 2013 1st rounder (6-10 range)
Ooof.Team A trades:Josh GordonJames StarksTeam B trades:2013 1st rounder. (This team picked first in 2012. Improved with Richardson, but still will be bottom tier, potentially first pick again.):...........Team A won bid in Supplemental Draft by offering up 2013 first round pick. This team usually contends for title and right now a likely playoff team.
Yup. I would make that trade from either side, depending on the league / team.Completely fair trade.Agreed. It's not fair to anyone and I'd be pissed if I was on either side. While I would not have made that trade if I was team A, its certainly not impossible that by next season that deal will look GREAT for him. What happens if down the road Nicks continues on the path of always being banged up and Baldwin and Floyd are top 15 WRs - does the league say "oops...my bad".Leagues that allow vetoing or voting on trades are an absolute joke. The commissioner, if at all competent, should be able to sniff out collusion. If he suspects it, THEN you put it up for vote. Allowing other owners to manage the rest of the teams in the league blows my mind. Those votes are always selfish. I'd venture to guess that most that vote for a veto are doing so for the benefit of their own team, not the benefit of the league.I would leave that league immediately.I can't believe my league just vetoed the deal.....Then he definately should keep Nicks.What if he doesn't plan to play FF for the rest of the decade?Awful. That's why that team is rebuilding. Nicks is one of the guys you build around for the rest of the decade, not trade away for a pile of complete unknowns.Team A receives (rebuilding)Michael FloydJon BaldwinRyan TannenhillTeam B receives (top 4 team)Hakeem Nicks![]()
Any thoughts on this one guys? How are Wilson/FA 1.5 vs. Williams/Gordon viewed?I'm guessing it depends entirely on what you think of Gordon and his chances at success.Gave:Ryan WilliamsSupp Draft pick 1.01 (Josh Gordon)Gotavid WilsonSupp Draft Pick 1.05 (T.O., Chad, Benson, Bryce Brown, Brandon Bolden, Dwyer, Robert Housler, Steve Smith STL, Andre Holmes, Coale, Jarius Wright, Powell are best options)
I like the Wilson side...won't say by a lot, but not by a little either.'ConnSKINS26 said:Any thoughts on this one guys? How are Wilson/FA 1.5 vs. Williams/Gordon viewed?I'm guessing it depends entirely on what you think of Gordon and his chances at success.'ConnSKINS26 said:Gave:Ryan WilliamsSupp Draft pick 1.01 (Josh Gordon)Gotavid WilsonSupp Draft Pick 1.05 (T.O., Chad, Benson, Bryce Brown, Brandon Bolden, Dwyer, Robert Housler, Steve Smith STL, Andre Holmes, Coale, Jarius Wright, Powell are best options)
Both talented high picks. Both nice situations on teams that pass. Ingram's been in the league a year already, I'll take him.12tm standard nonpprTraded David Wilson for Mark Ingram
I'm not one for vetoing but if this isn't obvious collusion i don't know what is.12TeamPPR IDP 55man rosters start 22Team A Drafts Cam 2.01Then trades him during the draft to Team Bfor a 16th, 19th and 23rd round pick![]()
I agree with you...the sad thing is I am certain it isnt collusion...one owner was just that dumb. I'd almost prefer it was collusion. The thing that now sucks for me is the question of staying in a league that is only in the 16th round of a 55 round start up, when something like this has already happened.I'm not one for vetoing but this isn't obvious collusion i don't know what is.12TeamPPR IDP 55man rosters start 22Team A Drafts Cam 2.01Then trades him during the draft to Team Bfor a 16th, 19th and 23rd round pick![]()
This makes no sense at all.'Jersey35 said:1.4, M.Bush, 2.8, 2013 1stFor1.5, 1.7
I like Brown, but don't think he is worth that.'Kree said:Team A sends2013 1st + 4.03 + 5.09Team B sendsVincent Brown
In what way? I mean, I know what I think about the trade, but I'm curious what others think.This makes no sense at all.'Jersey35 said:1.4, M.Bush, 2.8, 2013 1stFor1.5, 1.7
How many teams are in the league? Where about do you think the 2013 pick will be? It boils down to M. Bush, 2.8, and a 2013 draft pick all for ONLY 1.7??? Then whoever it is ALSO moves back a spot from 1.4 to 1.5.In what way? I mean, I know what I think about the trade, but I'm curious what others think.This makes no sense at all.'Jersey35 said:1.4, M.Bush, 2.8, 2013 1stFor1.5, 1.7
Yeah, I overpay for the players I like. Was pushing for him all offseason.I expect the pick to be somewhere between 1.09-1.12, so nothing devastating if he doesn't come off.It is a lot to pay for a WR 5/6 thoughI like Brown, but don't think he is worth that.'Kree said:Team A sends2013 1st + 4.03 + 5.09Team B sendsVincent Brown
It is not all (probably not most actually) posters, but there is a level of "showing off" concerning those winning trades.Looking over the last few pages of updates, these trades seem more and more one-sided as we approach the season. Do these teams think thay are filling immediate need holes or just that lost?The idea of this thread was to measure trade values across multiple leagues ... it has turned in to "screw your neighbor".
If you like the guy then you pay the price to go and get him. Personally I think that is a deal that a year from now people will be wondering how you got Brown for so cheap.Yeah, I overpay for the players I like. Was pushing for him all offseason.I expect the pick to be somewhere between 1.09-1.12, so nothing devastating if he doesn't come off.It is a lot to pay for a WR 5/6 thoughI like Brown, but don't think he is worth that.'Kree said:Team A sends2013 1st + 4.03 + 5.09Team B sendsVincent BrownMegatron/Nicks/Jennings/Djax/Baldwin ahead of him (Can start up to 5 WRs with 3 flex spots)
12 Team IDPFull disclosure has the owner picking up 1.7 with a full roster without room for his all of his draft picks this season and no room for Bush. He has pick 1.3 in the draft and also won the Superbowl last year. I expect his thought process is that his 2013 pick will be quite late and that he'd rather turn Bush (who now looks to be career RBBC at best) + 2.8 for a chance at hitting a homerun at 1.7.How many teams are in the league? Where about do you think the 2013 pick will be? It boils down to M. Bush, 2.8, and a 2013 draft pick all for ONLY 1.7??? Then whoever it is ALSO moves back a spot from 1.4 to 1.5.In what way? I mean, I know what I think about the trade, but I'm curious what others think.This makes no sense at all.'Jersey35 said:1.4, M.Bush, 2.8, 2013 1stFor1.5, 1.7
This seems horribly in favor of the team receiving Foster and Fitz... is there something I'm missing?10 tm PPR - 2qb 2flex- I'm not involved. 2 of last seasons worst 3 teams Team A- Arian foster, Alshon Jeffery, Larry Fitzgerald , Matt schaub, 2nd rd rookie pickFor Team B- deseas Jackson, shonn Greene, Fred Jackson, Vernon Davis, Peyton manning, Matt Cassel
Right now I'd take Powell.Few weeks ago... ten team dynasty.... .5 ppr start 2-3 rbTraded 2013 3rd pickFor bilal powellExciting i know![]()
Yeah pretty sure this is a Robbery.This seems horribly in favor of the team receiving Foster and Fitz... is there something I'm missing?10 tm PPR - 2qb 2flex- I'm not involved. 2 of last seasons worst 3 teams Team A- Arian foster, Alshon Jeffery, Larry Fitzgerald , Matt schaub, 2nd rd rookie pickFor Team B- deseas Jackson, shonn Greene, Fred Jackson, Vernon Davis, Peyton manning, Matt Cassel
I like the Rice side but then you knew that.16-team 0.5pprForteLynch 3 future 2nd Round Picks for Ray Rice.Thoughts? Too much?
I ended up getting the picks down to basically two 2nds (one 2013, one 2014) both of which will be late-ish.I've got no RB depth now though, but my actual starting RBs are now McCoy/Rice so I'm happy enough.I like the Rice side but then you knew that.16-team 0.5pprForteLynch 3 future 2nd Round Picks for Ray Rice.Thoughts? Too much?