they were on the cusp. Was basically faced with keeping 2 of these 4 WRs: Wayne, Williams, Holmes and Collie.I first offered Holmes and Williams, but he countered with Wayne, so I figured what the heck since I wanted another 1st this year.ETA: not that anyone asked but this now gives me the 1.01, 1.07 and 1.08 in this league, so I figure TRich, one of Hillman/Pead, and one of Blackman/Floyd/Wright will be a nice injection of upside youth to the roster.seems like a lot to give for the 1.08, but if Wayne and Williams might not be in your final 12 in 2013, i guess it makes sense
Team A - got Michael Crabtree, Brian Quick, 5.07 turned into Legudu NaaneeTeam B - got Torrey Smith
Team A (same team as above) - got Desean JacksonTeam C - got Reggie Wayne, 6.05 turned into Keyshawn Martin, 7.05 turned into not picked yet
as someone in this league, think Team A over paid for T Smith and lost the DJax trade, too...'Mario Kart said:Dynasty League: start QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, (1 RB/WR/TE) 1 K, 1 Def... PPR RB-.5, WR-1, TE-1.5Not involved in either- 3 round rookie (already took place), now 4 round vet/rookie draft
Team A - got Michael Crabtree, Brian Quick, 5.07 turned into Legudu NaaneeTeam B - got Torrey SmithTeam A (same team as above) - got Desean JacksonTeam C - got Reggie Wayne, 6.05 turned into Keyshawn Martin, 7.05 turned into not picked yet
Team A did not receive Torrey Smith. So, how could Team A overpay? Makes your comment about DJax confusing.Looking at the FBG dynasty rankings:Team A - Crabtree (t-38th), Quick (60th), draft pickTeam B - Smith (29th)- think it is pretty even and the ages are pretty equal.Team A - DJax (26th)Team C - Wayne (t-38th), draft pick, draft pick- Team A gains age while not losing much.as someone in this league, think Team A over paid for T Smith and lost the DJax trade, too...'Mario Kart said:Dynasty League: start QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, (1 RB/WR/TE) 1 K, 1 Def... PPR RB-.5, WR-1, TE-1.5Not involved in either- 3 round rookie (already took place), now 4 round vet/rookie draft
Team A - got Michael Crabtree, Brian Quick, 5.07 turned into Legudu NaaneeTeam B - got Torrey SmithTeam A (same team as above) - got Desean JacksonTeam C - got Reggie Wayne, 6.05 turned into Keyshawn Martin, 7.05 turned into not picked yet
Moore and it's not really close. Buy low on Moore during the hamstring woes. He will be a beast in dynasty.12 team PPR:Team A gives Denarius MooreTeam B gives Quizz Rogers
I'd rather have Rodgers.Moore and it's not really close. Buy low on Moore during the hamstring woes. He will be a beast in dynasty.12 team PPR:Team A gives Denarius MooreTeam B gives Quizz Rogers
Geez, that's bad.Team A gave up Baker, Edwin SDC RBBell, Kahlil CHI RBBest, Jahvid DET RBWashington, Leon SEA RBGraham, Jimmy NOS TETeam B gave up Green, Alex GBP RBPowell, Bilal NYJ RBSproles, Darren NOS RBStarks, James GBP RBDavis, Vernon SFO TETeam A was 8-8 last year, gained Wilson in the draft. Should have shot at playoffs for sure.Team B was league champ, has all detroit RBs now, Washington backing up Lynch, Wells and DeAngelo at RB. WR/QB and now TE are strongest parts of his team. The GB RBs and Powerll unlikely to see field, so came down to Sproles/Vernon for Graham/handcuffs.
I'll take Andre here and deal him for Torrey.Not involved in this tradeTeam ATraded Away: Carson Palmer (OAK) Andre Johnson (HOU) Lance Kendricks (STL)Team BTraded Away Deion Branch (NWE) Eli Manning (NYG) Brandon Pettigrew (DET)
Which way?Geez, that's bad.Team A gave up Baker, Edwin SDC RBBell, Kahlil CHI RBBest, Jahvid DET RBWashington, Leon SEA RBGraham, Jimmy NOS TETeam B gave up Green, Alex GBP RBPowell, Bilal NYJ RBSproles, Darren NOS RBStarks, James GBP RBDavis, Vernon SFO TETeam A was 8-8 last year, gained Wilson in the draft. Should have shot at playoffs for sure.Team B was league champ, has all detroit RBs now, Washington backing up Lynch, Wells and DeAngelo at RB. WR/QB and now TE are strongest parts of his team. The GB RBs and Powerll unlikely to see field, so came down to Sproles/Vernon for Graham/handcuffs.
Graham should never be dealt when the player of most value coming back your way is a quickly depreciating Darren Sproles. Vernon is nice and all but this is a very poor trade.Which way?Geez, that's bad.Team A gave up Baker, Edwin SDC RBBell, Kahlil CHI RBBest, Jahvid DET RBWashington, Leon SEA RBGraham, Jimmy NOS TETeam B gave up Green, Alex GBP RBPowell, Bilal NYJ RBSproles, Darren NOS RBStarks, James GBP RBDavis, Vernon SFO TETeam A was 8-8 last year, gained Wilson in the draft. Should have shot at playoffs for sure.Team B was league champ, has all detroit RBs now, Washington backing up Lynch, Wells and DeAngelo at RB. WR/QB and now TE are strongest parts of his team. The GB RBs and Powerll unlikely to see field, so came down to Sproles/Vernon for Graham/handcuffs.
Graham should never be dealt when the player of most value coming back your way is a quickly depreciating Darren Sproles. Vernon is nice and all but this is a very poor trade.Which way?Geez, that's bad.Team A gave up Baker, Edwin SDC RBBell, Kahlil CHI RBBest, Jahvid DET RBWashington, Leon SEA RBGraham, Jimmy NOS TETeam B gave up Green, Alex GBP RBPowell, Bilal NYJ RBSproles, Darren NOS RBStarks, James GBP RBDavis, Vernon SFO TETeam A was 8-8 last year, gained Wilson in the draft. Should have shot at playoffs for sure.Team B was league champ, has all detroit RBs now, Washington backing up Lynch, Wells and DeAngelo at RB. WR/QB and now TE are strongest parts of his team. The GB RBs and Powerll unlikely to see field, so came down to Sproles/Vernon for Graham/handcuffs.
I don't think it's that bad. I'd rather have Graham in a vacuum, but it's not like Davis isn't a very good TE and Sproles could help win a championship this season.Rice side by a lot.12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TETeam A Gave: Ray Rice, 2013 2ndTeam B Gave: Demaryius Thomas, David WilsonTeam A Post Trade:Rodgers (Vick, Bradford)McFadden, Spiller (Wilson, Royster)Calvin, Julio, DT, Torrey (Jeffery, Randle, Mario)Graham (Gresh, L Green, Housler)Team B Post Trade:Rivers (Tannehill, Palmer)Rice, Charles (Hillman, Mendenhall, LeShoure, Scott, Turbin)Fitz, Dez, AJG, Britt (Wright, Givens, Marvin)Hernandez (Vernon, Moeaki)
Will be reversed in that view within 18 months IMORice side by a lot.12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TETeam A Gave: Ray Rice, 2013 2ndTeam B Gave: Demaryius Thomas, David WilsonTeam A Post Trade:Rodgers (Vick, Bradford)McFadden, Spiller (Wilson, Royster)Calvin, Julio, DT, Torrey (Jeffery, Randle, Mario)Graham (Gresh, L Green, Housler)Team B Post Trade:Rivers (Tannehill, Palmer)Rice, Charles (Hillman, Mendenhall, LeShoure, Scott, Turbin)Fitz, Dez, AJG, Britt (Wright, Givens, Marvin)Hernandez (Vernon, Moeaki)
If it matters, I forgot to include that it is a 12 team PPR league, start QB/2 RB/3 WR/TE/Flex/K/D.Graham should never be dealt when the player of most value coming back your way is a quickly depreciating Darren Sproles. Vernon is nice and all but this is a very poor trade.Which way?Geez, that's bad.Team A gave up Baker, Edwin SDC RBBell, Kahlil CHI RBBest, Jahvid DET RBWashington, Leon SEA RBGraham, Jimmy NOS TETeam B gave up Green, Alex GBP RBPowell, Bilal NYJ RBSproles, Darren NOS RBStarks, James GBP RBDavis, Vernon SFO TETeam A was 8-8 last year, gained Wilson in the draft. Should have shot at playoffs for sure.Team B was league champ, has all detroit RBs now, Washington backing up Lynch, Wells and DeAngelo at RB. WR/QB and now TE are strongest parts of his team. The GB RBs and Powerll unlikely to see field, so came down to Sproles/Vernon for Graham/handcuffs.I don't think it's that bad. I'd rather have Graham in a vacuum, but it's not like Davis isn't a very good TE and Sproles could help win a championship this season.
That long?Will be reversed in that view within 18 months IMORice side by a lot.12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TETeam A Gave: Ray Rice, 2013 2ndTeam B Gave: Demaryius Thomas, David WilsonTeam A Post Trade:Rodgers (Vick, Bradford)McFadden, Spiller (Wilson, Royster)Calvin, Julio, DT, Torrey (Jeffery, Randle, Mario)Graham (Gresh, L Green, Housler)Team B Post Trade:Rivers (Tannehill, Palmer)Rice, Charles (Hillman, Mendenhall, LeShoure, Scott, Turbin)Fitz, Dez, AJG, Britt (Wright, Givens, Marvin)Hernandez (Vernon, Moeaki)
elaborate please. Thoughts on AJ at this point? thoughts on Torrey (I'm having a debate in my head on this guy going forward)?I'll take Andre here and deal him for Torrey.Not involved in this trade
Team A
Traded Away:
Carson Palmer (OAK)
Andre Johnson (HOU)
Lance Kendricks (STL)
Team B
Traded Away
Deion Branch (NWE)
Eli Manning (NYG)
Brandon Pettigrew (DET)
Don't get greedy.'Shutout said:elaborate please. Thoughts on AJ at this point? thoughts on Torrey (I'm having a debate in my head on this guy going forward)?I'll take Andre here and deal him for Torrey.Not involved in this trade
Team A
Traded Away:
Carson Palmer (OAK)
Andre Johnson (HOU)
Lance Kendricks (STL)
Team B
Traded Away
Deion Branch (NWE)
Eli Manning (NYG)
Brandon Pettigrew (DET)
Ballsy call that 1.2 is the worst case scenario w/ Greene, T.Smith, 1.10 added to a roster.Traded away Shonn Greene, Torrey Smith, and 1.10 for a 2013 first rounder that will be at worst #2.
CJ and the 1st easily for me. An elite capable starter and a primo pick for two young back-ups and a lottery pick.12-team PPR:Team A: Chris Johnson, '14 1stTeam B: Ry.Williams, Spiller, '13 2nd
That long?Will be reversed in that view within 18 months IMORice side by a lot.12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TETeam A Gave: Ray Rice, 2013 2ndTeam B Gave: Demaryius Thomas, David WilsonTeam A Post Trade:Rodgers (Vick, Bradford)McFadden, Spiller (Wilson, Royster)Calvin, Julio, DT, Torrey (Jeffery, Randle, Mario)Graham (Gresh, L Green, Housler)Team B Post Trade:Rivers (Tannehill, Palmer)Rice, Charles (Hillman, Mendenhall, LeShoure, Scott, Turbin)Fitz, Dez, AJG, Britt (Wright, Givens, Marvin)Hernandez (Vernon, Moeaki)

That trade is incredibly bad.CJ and the 1st easily for me. An elite capable starter and a primo pick for two young back-ups and a lottery pick.12-team PPR:Team A: Chris Johnson, '14 1stTeam B: Ry.Williams, Spiller, '13 2nd
I actually rated this exactly opposite. Guess its a fair tradeB.S. gave up a ton.Go Titans won the deal.Jenifer paid now to gain in the future.Go Titans >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenifer >>>>>>>>>>>> B.S.
I thought BS INC won the trade, just because he got the best two players imo. I'm not very high on Bush/Thomas, and Marshall is at least as valuable as AJ, if not more.I actually rated this exactly opposite. Guess its a fair tradeB.S. gave up a ton.Go Titans won the deal.Jenifer paid now to gain in the future.Go Titans >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenifer >>>>>>>>>>>> B.S.
Well, acquire him in three leagues in one night once I saw one of his owners cave and sell him at a future WR2 value.The trade above, plus:Gave:Ryan BroylesJerrel JerniganGot:Jahvid BestAndGave:Stevan RidleyGot:Jahvid Best'ConnSKINS26 said:Gave:Vincent BrownGot:Jahvid BestAfter the Brown injury, logged in to find three different trade offers for him! Guys trying to buy low apparently. This was the one I went with because I'm incredibly stacked at WR in this league and weak at RB, so it was worth the risk. I'm hoping I look back and see this trade as a great buy-low.
Incredibly?'bengalbuck said:That trade is incredibly bad.CJ and the 1st easily for me. An elite capable starter and a primo pick for two young back-ups and a lottery pick.12-team PPR:Team A: Chris Johnson, '14 1stTeam B: Ry.Williams, Spiller, '13 2nd
Ouch!! Somebody just got worked real nice. A rookie that has never played a down and a WR that has never played a full season for one of the best backs in the NFL and still quite young. Then this guy also includes a 2nd....Even if Thomas becomes a top 5 WR this guy still gets worked in this deal and I doubt top 5 is in the cards, top 10 perhaps.A savy trader should have been able to get so much more here.12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TETeam A Gave: Ray Rice, 2013 2ndTeam B Gave: Demaryius Thomas, David WilsonTeam A Post Trade:Rodgers (Vick, Bradford)McFadden, Spiller (Wilson, Royster)Calvin, Julio, DT, Torrey (Jeffery, Randle, Mario)Graham (Gresh, L Green, Housler)Team B Post Trade:Rivers (Tannehill, Palmer)Rice, Charles (Hillman, Mendenhall, LeShoure, Scott, Turbin)Fitz, Dez, AJG, Britt (Wright, Givens, Marvin)Hernandez (Vernon, Moeaki)
Yeah, 18 months is a long time. Rice "should" have 2 more top 5 finishes in that time frame as well as only be 27 years old. Wilson may not even be the fulltime starter 18 months from now, Peyton might be retired by then.That being said, DT & Wilson have a ton of upside. With Peso & Gian's roster, they can afford to gamble on the longterm...That long?Will be reversed in that view within 18 months IMORice side by a lot.12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TETeam A Gave: Ray Rice, 2013 2ndTeam B Gave: Demaryius Thomas, David WilsonTeam A Post Trade:Rodgers (Vick, Bradford)McFadden, Spiller (Wilson, Royster)Calvin, Julio, DT, Torrey (Jeffery, Randle, Mario)Graham (Gresh, L Green, Housler)Team B Post Trade:Rivers (Tannehill, Palmer)Rice, Charles (Hillman, Mendenhall, LeShoure, Scott, Turbin)Fitz, Dez, AJG, Britt (Wright, Givens, Marvin)Hernandez (Vernon, Moeaki)![]()
Good one!16 team .5 PPR I wasn't involved2014 1st round pick (playoff team)For Rod StreaterYeah I didn't get it either as Streater was picked 5.06 in our rookie draft last week.
