2013 - a look back, was ADP a bust? (1 Viewer)

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Just thinking out loud to myself.

Was ADP considered a bust for his 2013 performance or not?

He was pretty much the consensus #1 pick in all drafts regardless of format.

He finished 5th at RB in my TD heavy league and 7th in my ppr league

thoughts?

Id call him a bust

 

[Ghost Rider]

No, although the fact that he was crappy in Weeks 14-16 makes it easy to argue otherwise. But on overall numbers alone, no.

He was 4th among RBs in my local auction league, where we got bonuses at 100 yards and for longer scores.

I suspect many people who would call him a bust foolishly thought he would match his 2012 numbers (which was unrealistic).

 

[Bigboy10182000]

It was a let down by his standards but in weeks 1-13 in my PPR he was the 4th overall RB at over 18ppg

 

[Shutout]

I'm gonna say no because I can remember when this topic was discussed in the pre-season and I would say "he won't come close to repeating last season, therefore you are drafting him too high because you could have these other guys", the responce was usually something to the effect of "you draft Peterson this high becuase of his high floor".

So, if he finished #7 in ppr, I guess that's good enough. Technically, several spots too high, but when you consider the high number of true busts at RB this year, I'd take it if I did it.

 

[Spike]

Also, I would assume if the Vikes had been in contention, he would have played more (and better) in the last few weeks. Which would have bumped up his overall numbers.

 

[T with T]

Just thinking out loud to myself.

Was ADP considered a bust for his 2013 performance or not?

He was pretty much the consensus #1 pick in all drafts regardless of format.

He finished 5th at RB in my TD heavy league and 7th in my ppr league

thoughts?

Id call him a bust

Compared to Jamaal Charles a few slots later he was. He was still a solid rb. I wish I would have had him instead of SPILLER who I took 1.2 YUCK.....

 

[Soulfly3]

When you take a guy #1 overall, you take him with the intention of him finishing top 5 at his position

At least I do...

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I've always been amazed at guys like ADP who do as well as they do with relatively little around them.

 

[Steed]

I'm gonna say no because I can remember when this topic was discussed in the pre-season and I would say "he won't come close to repeating last season, therefore you are drafting him too high because you could have these other guys", the responce was usually something to the effect of "you draft Peterson this high becuase of his high floor".

So, if he finished #7 in ppr, I guess that's good enough. Technically, several spots too high, but when you consider the high number of true busts at RB this year, I'd take it if I did it.

To your point, people are discussing him as a bust when he finished anywhere between 4 - 7 depending on scoring. That's a damn high floor.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I'm gonna say no because I can remember when this topic was discussed in the pre-season and I would say "he won't come close to repeating last season, therefore you are drafting him too high because you could have these other guys", the responce was usually something to the effect of "you draft Peterson this high becuase of his high floor".

So, if he finished #7 in ppr, I guess that's good enough. Technically, several spots too high, but when you consider the high number of true busts at RB this year, I'd take it if I did it.

To your point, people are discussing him as a bust when he finished anywhere between 4 - 7 depending on scoring. That's a damn high floor.

true, however his week 14-16 scoring was down right awful.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

No.

Sincerely,

Trent Richardson, CJ Spiller, and Ray Rice

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

No.

Sincerely,

Trent Richardson, CJ Spiller, and Ray Rice

Doug Martin, Arian Foster the list goes on and on

Besides JC, McCoy & forte the early RBs all seemed very MEH

 

[Coeur de Lion]

No.

Sincerely,

Trent Richardson, CJ Spiller, and Ray Rice

Doug Martin, Arian Foster the list goes on and onBesides JC, McCoy & forte the early RBs all seemed very MEH

Getting hurt =/= bust as far as I'm concerned. Either way, Peterson was hardly a bust -- his performance this year lines up pretty well with what he's done over his career, considering he missed a game and has been banged up. Peterson's 2012 would be an outlier for anybody.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

No. You got rb5 or rb7 in the first round.

Being disappointed that he was not number 1 overall rb is nitpicking. You can never expect someone to be the number 1 at a position. There are too many variables. Be happy he didn't flame out like a lot of the other highly-drafted rbs.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Somebody can go through and see where the RB ranked #1 during the preseason for the past ten years actually finished, on average, at the end of the season. It's probably around RB6-RB7 or so, at best.

That means your realistic expectations, when you spend pick 1.01 on Adrian Peterson, should be that he'll finish somewhere around RB6-RB7 (or whatever the average actually is).

If he does much better than that, he was a bargain. If he does much worse than that, he was a bust.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

No.

Sincerely,

Trent Richardson, CJ Spiller, and Ray Rice

Doug Martin, Arian Foster the list goes on and onBesides JC, McCoy & forte the early RBs all seemed very MEH

Getting hurt =/= bust as far as I'm concerned.

why? getting hurt is part of busting as far as Im concerned

 

[Long Ball Larry]

good fishing

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Just thinking out loud to myself.

Was ADP considered a bust for his 2013 performance or not?

He was pretty much the consensus #1 pick in all drafts regardless of format.

He finished 5th at RB in my TD heavy league and 7th in my ppr league

thoughts?

Id call him a bust

I don't think finishing just 4 spots behind his ADP would be a bust.

He helped me get to my championship although he didn't carry thru the playoffs. Not a bust but not fantasy gold, whatever word you want to use that would characterize him in those regards is my opinion.

 

[General Tso]

He basically played 13 games and had almost 1,300 rushing yards and 11 total touchdowns. Finished as the #3 running back in my league, and just outside of 2nd place. How could you call that a bust?

A bust is CJ Spiller.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

He basically played 13 games and had almost 1,300 rushing yards and 11 total touchdowns. Finished as the #3 running back in my league, and just outside of 2nd place. How could you call that a bust?

A bust is CJ Spiller.

Trent Richardson and Doug Martin. In one league drafting 3rd I got both of those guys and I left that draft thinking I schooled everyone. Worst league I was in, never could really get over .500 with those 2 bums, I'm still shaking my head at those 2 guys.

 

[Ack88]

Absolutely not a bust. Still posted very good numbers, despite the late season swoon.

Admittedly, I would be a little disappointed in his overall but calling him a bust overstates that point.

In my opinion, if you get really good production from a player who has a proven track record, you can't realistically expect him to post historically great seasons every year.

Peyton Manning, I'd venture, will repeat next year what AP did this year, yet if I took him in the late first or early second round, I wouldn't be crushed, nor would I classify his season as a bust.

 

[General Tso]

He basically played 13 games and had almost 1,300 rushing yards and 11 total touchdowns. Finished as the #3 running back in my league, and just outside of 2nd place. How could you call that a bust?

A bust is CJ Spiller.

Trent Richardson and Doug Martin. In one league drafting 3rd I got both of those guys and I left that draft thinking I schooled everyone. Worst league I was in, never could really get over .500 with those 2 bums, I'm still shaking my head at those 2 guys.

I hear ya. In my end of the year summary last year I wrote at the very top, "draft Spiller and Richardson next year". They had all the makings of up and coming RB stars. It was dumb luck that I wasn't able to land them at the draft. I feel badly for people who drafted these guys. You really got screwed.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

good fishing

I don't fish sir, I was just looking at the numbers and contemplating if he was a bust or not, seems most feel like he wasn't

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Absolutely not however the context is important. FFPC, most folks took ADP at the 1 hole and he was terrific weeks 1-11 plus the playoff weeks 12 and 13 in that contest, I won $1500 so I was happy with him. He fizzled as soon as week 14 started but I feel I would not have won had I not taken ADP or perhaps Charles at the 1.01, otherwise it would have been tough sledding.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Through Week 13 (12 games) he put elite numbers in 7 games. Last year through the same time frame, he had 6 elite games.

Obvs he finished very strong last year, and got hurt this year. But seems absurd to call him a bust. It was a bust year, by ADP standards, but no one else.

50% chance of any top ten back falling out the next year. For the last 7 years, there's a 100% ADP will be a top ten (I think his worst season was around RB8).

Safest bust you'll ever draft.

 

[Warrior]

I would say "he won't come close to repeating last season, therefore you are drafting him too high because you could have these other guys"

Like Spiller, Foster and David Wilson, right?