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2013 NFL Draft Pro Day results (1 Viewer)

Just saw that Cameron Marshall was measured at 69 3/4" and 211 at his pro day. He's much smaller than I expected him to be.
He lost 9 lbs from his playing weight:http://www.foxsportsarizona.com/collegefootball/arizona-state-sun-devils/story/Marshall-out-to-prove-himself-before-dra?blockID=878809
 
'Faust said:
From the above link pertaining to LB Jarvis Jones.
If prospects were drafted on production alone, Georgia's Jarvis Jones would be in the conversation to be the No. 1 overall pick. But for Jones, his path to the NFL is a little more complex.

On Thursday at Georgia's Woodruff Practice Fields, Jones and 16 other former Bulldogs worked out for scouts at the school's on-campus Pro Day. All 32 NFL teams were represented, including several head coaches and general managers, including Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin, Jets head coach Rex Ryan and Giants general manager Jerry Reese.

After tripping on his first 40-yard dash attempt, Jones ran an official 4.92 on his second attempt, according to the school's athletic department. He also added 20 reps on the bench press, 30-inch vertical and a 9-foot-3 broad jump, results that would have placed him near the bottom of the linebacker rankings at the combine. Jones decided not to work out in Indianapolis last month, choosing instead to focus on his health and “take all the tests needed.”

Jones was diagnosed with spinal stenosis while at USC in 2009, an injury that kept him from finding the field for the Trojans. After transferring to Georgia and playing two relatively healthy seasons, the durability concerns are a large part of his draft projection due to the long-term ramifications. As Rob Rang reported this week, Jones will participate in the “combine re-check” on April 5-6 in Indianapolis to review the medical progress and analysis of flagged conditions. But on Thursday, the emphasis was on Jones' athleticism and performance in drills, not about his durability concerns...
:yucky: My link

Dane Brugler‏@dpbrugler58m

Jarvis Jones also had 20 reps on the bench today...to put that in context, 5 WRs had at least 20 reps at the Combine

Bryce Bunker‏@BryceBunk53m

@dpbrugler Ehhh that's getting a little picky. Some big lineman don't get much more than 20. Don't think that necessarily sounds an alarm.

Dane Brugler‏@dpbrugler51m

@BryceBunk It matches what the tape shows, he struggles once engaged and lacks the power to overwhelm blockers w/ counter moves

Bryce Bunker‏@BryceBunk41m

@dpbrugler just seems BP is used only when it matches tape thus making it not a great reflection of functional strength. Suggs got 19.

Bryce Bunker‏@BryceBunk36m

@dpbrugler I get that as part of a bigger picture it adds worry, but in isolation it's not a red flag. Cooper vs. Warmack tape vs. BP #s.

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This on-top of the stenosis issue and not working out at the combine...

Its safe to say OLB/DE Jarvis Jones won't go in the top five picks and probably takes a plunge down the draft board, possibly into the teens.

 
'Xue said:
'wdcrob said:
Just saw that Cameron Marshall was measured at 69 3/4" and 211 at his pro day. He's much smaller than I expected him to be.
He lost 9 lbs from his playing weight:http://www.foxsportsarizona.com/collegefootball/arizona-state-sun-devils/story/Marshall-out-to-prove-himself-before-dra?blockID=878809
I took Cameron Marshall a couple years back in a dev draft and he turned out to be the anti-Doug Martin. By which I mean to say that every time I watched him play, he looked worse. As a sophomore I thought he showed first round potential, but his YPC dropped the next year (even though he set career highs in yards and TDs) and he was nothing more than a committee back as a senior. My hunch is that injuries were part of the problem. He played most of the 2011 season on a bum wheel. Had surgery in the offseason and may not have ever healed. He was limited in training camp and was handled with kid gloves, to the point where the coach said, "He's done being tackled."

At this point he might not even get drafted, but he will certainly get a UDFA contract and he has a chance to stick right away as someone's #3. 5'9.6" 211 is a little bit smaller than expected, but he's right in the ideal wheelhouse from a weight per height standpoint with a 30.6 BMI. His workout numbers were not great, but they were good enough. 4.54 in the 40, 36" in the vert, and 9'10" in the broad jump. Not terrible marks for a shorter, heavier back. He has the physique of an NFL starter and shows flashes in his highlight reel:

The issue is that he runs a bit upright and doesn't show a great deal of elusiveness. Nobody will ever confuse him for Ray Rice in terms of his ability to cut on a dime and shift momentum quickly in tight spaces. He's basically a straight-line runner. That's a problem in the NFL, where the ability to make your own yards is critical. If you can't make people miss, you're probably not going to be very effective and you're going to take a beating.

 
Middle Tennessee State RB Benny Cunningham put up 26 bench reps today. He only weighed 209 lbs!



Tore up Georgia Tech for 200+ yards and 5 TDs

 
'Faust said:
From the above link pertaining to LB Jarvis Jones.
If prospects were drafted on production alone, Georgia's Jarvis Jones would be in the conversation to be the No. 1 overall pick. But for Jones, his path to the NFL is a little more complex.

On Thursday at Georgia's Woodruff Practice Fields, Jones and 16 other former Bulldogs worked out for scouts at the school's on-campus Pro Day. All 32 NFL teams were represented, including several head coaches and general managers, including Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin, Jets head coach Rex Ryan and Giants general manager Jerry Reese.

After tripping on his first 40-yard dash attempt, Jones ran an official 4.92 on his second attempt, according to the school's athletic department. He also added 20 reps on the bench press, 30-inch vertical and a 9-foot-3 broad jump, results that would have placed him near the bottom of the linebacker rankings at the combine. Jones decided not to work out in Indianapolis last month, choosing instead to focus on his health and “take all the tests needed.”

Jones was diagnosed with spinal stenosis while at USC in 2009, an injury that kept him from finding the field for the Trojans. After transferring to Georgia and playing two relatively healthy seasons, the durability concerns are a large part of his draft projection due to the long-term ramifications. As Rob Rang reported this week, Jones will participate in the “combine re-check” on April 5-6 in Indianapolis to review the medical progress and analysis of flagged conditions. But on Thursday, the emphasis was on Jones' athleticism and performance in drills, not about his durability concerns...
:yucky: My link

Dane Brugler‏@dpbrugler58m

Jarvis Jones also had 20 reps on the bench today...to put that in context, 5 WRs had at least 20 reps at the Combine

Bryce Bunker‏@BryceBunk53m

@dpbrugler Ehhh that's getting a little picky. Some big lineman don't get much more than 20. Don't think that necessarily sounds an alarm.

Dane Brugler‏@dpbrugler51m

@BryceBunk It matches what the tape shows, he struggles once engaged and lacks the power to overwhelm blockers w/ counter moves

Bryce Bunker‏@BryceBunk41m

@dpbrugler just seems BP is used only when it matches tape thus making it not a great reflection of functional strength. Suggs got 19.

Bryce Bunker‏@BryceBunk36m

@dpbrugler I get that as part of a bigger picture it adds worry, but in isolation it's not a red flag. Cooper vs. Warmack tape vs. BP #s.

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This on-top of the stenosis issue and not working out at the combine...

Its safe to say OLB/DE Jarvis Jones won't go in the top five picks and probably takes a plunge down the draft board, possibly into the teens.
I'd love to see him fall to the Steelers.
 
I have been followingThomas Melton on twitter. He has been saying all along that Jarvis Jones was overrated and would not test well. It is funny how an amatuer scout like Melton has more insight than the paid full time talking heads.

 
Middle Tennessee State RB Benny Cunningham put up 26 bench reps today. He only weighed 209 lbs!https://twitter.com/AdamSparks/status/314789325005008899https://twitter.com/AdamSparks/status/314790996640673793Tore up Georgia Tech for 200+ yards and 5 TDshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjwvDuOtNcw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
That guy looks like he might be able to play. Checked his stats and it looks like he only played one (half) season.Was he a JC guy? Injured all the time? Just wondering why he doesn't have a bigger body of work.
 
I have been followingThomas Melton on twitter. He has been saying all along that Jarvis Jones was overrated and would not test well. It is funny how an amatuer scout like Melton has more insight than the paid full time talking heads.
Jones may very well be overrated, but these underware olympics are in no way a good way to validate that. Jones looks like an explosive athlete when you watch the games. That may not be the case in drills or in his 40, but it doesn't change the way he plays. The dude is all over the field, always around the ball and makes plays. I agree he has some serious challenges when it comes to taking on and shedding blocks, particularly when it's an interior lineman that gets to him. In the right scheme, he can be a pro bowl caliber player though.
 
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I have been followingThomas Melton on twitter. He has been saying all along that Jarvis Jones was overrated and would not test well. It is funny how an amatuer scout like Melton has more insight than the paid full time talking heads.
Eh, Melton is an amateur like Scott Wright is an amateur, and that guy's website gets national recognition for some reason. And he's in Madden. Same with walterfootball. All "amateurs" with passion who put a lot of work and time in and become quasi-experts, at least in reputation. That's how Waldman started. Hell, that's how Kiper started way back when. The paid talking heads, the "experts", really just get more exposure.
 
I have been followingThomas Melton on twitter. He has been saying all along that Jarvis Jones was overrated and would not test well. It is funny how an amatuer scout like Melton has more insight than the paid full time talking heads.
Eh, Melton is an amateur like Scott Wright is an amateur, and that guy's website gets national recognition for some reason. And he's in Madden. Same with walterfootball. All "amateurs" with passion who put a lot of work and time in and become quasi-experts, at least in reputation. That's how Waldman started. Hell, that's how Kiper started way back when. The paid talking heads, the "experts", really just get more exposure.
I've come to realize there are no experts when it comes to this stuff. Like you said, some people just get more notoriety.
 
There are some experts, but the majority of them don't share much at all mostly because analyst jobs don't pay enough for them.

 
Pro Days: Ertz, others improve numbers at Stanford workout

By Rob Rang | The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com

March 21, 2013 4:09 pm ET

Stanford's Zach Ertz led all FBS tight ends last season with 69 receptions for 898 yards and six touchdowns but the junior lost some of his momentum with a less-than-eye-popping performance at the combine.

The first team All-Pac-12 tight end may have pushed himself back into contention with Notre Dame senior Tyler Eifert to be the first player at his position selected in the 2013 draft with a strong workout Thursday on campus, clocking in between 4.57-4.69 seconds in the 40-yard dash, according to multiple sources. The general consensus on his times was mid 4.6s.

Ertz's fastest time at the combine had been 4.76 seconds in this event. He also improved upon his vertical and broad jumps Thursday, topping out at 35.5 inches and 9 feet, 6 inches after his best marks in Indianapolis were 30.5 and 9-4, respectively.

He was also impressive during the positional drills, running an estimated 20 routes as directed by Cincinnati Bengals' tight ends coach Jonathan Hayes and catching every pass thrown to him.

Ertz's positive day began before the drills even started. After measuring in with shorter than expected arms at the combine (31 3/4 inches), Ertz's limbs came in an eighth of an inch longer Thursday.

Ertz wasn't the only Stanford player who helped his cause Thursday.

Stanford's "other" tight end, Levine Toilolo, also improved on the 4.86-second time he'd clocked in Indianapolis to measure in the low 4.7s, Thursday. The 6-foot-8, 260-pound Toilolo improved his vertical and broad jumps, as well, going from 31 inches and 9 feet, 5 inches in Indianapolis to 33.5 and 9-9 in Palo Alto.

As Stanford's all-time leading rusher, Stepfan Taylor has impressive tape to counter the disappointing workout he'd had in Indianapolis, where he was clocked at 4.76 seconds in the 40-yard dash at 5-foot-9, 216 pounds.

Taylor was faster Thursday (4.64-4.68), helping his cause, but wasn't explosive. Taylor isn't the type to dominate in drills and could slip into the third day of the draft because of this fact, but he's nonetheless a favorite of many scouts.
 
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A few weeks old, but didn't see this posted yet.Kyler Reed, TE/FB/H-Back/RB Nebraska6'2-1/8" 225 lbs4.47 4041" Vertical10'7" Broad Jump19 Reps4.00 Shuttle6.62 3-Cone
Taylor Martinez was unable to really take advantage of this guys skills because of his inaccuracy. Reed also didn't see a full complement of snaps because Cotton was a better blocker however he made plays when called upon. Could just be a Dorin Dickerson or Charles Clay type rather than Aaron Hernandez or even James Casey. Will likely get.lost in shuffle with all solid TE's in this draft. He did not.line up as a FB very often and never as a RB so projecting him there is wishful thinking. Should be interesting to see where he goes because he is a willing blocker who can stretch the field. Will take a creative offensives mind to use him though
 
A few weeks old, but didn't see this posted yet.Kyler Reed, TE/FB/H-Back/RB Nebraska6'2-1/8" 225 lbs4.47 4041" Vertical10'7" Broad Jump19 Reps4.00 Shuttle6.62 3-Cone
Taylor Martinez was unable to really take advantage of this guys skills because of his inaccuracy. Reed also didn't see a full complement of snaps because Cotton was a better blocker however he made plays when called upon. Could just be a Dorin Dickerson or Charles Clay type rather than Aaron Hernandez or even James Casey. Will likely get.lost in shuffle with all solid TE's in this draft. He did not.line up as a FB very often and never as a RB so projecting him there is wishful thinking. Should be interesting to see where he goes because he is a willing blocker who can stretch the field. Will take a creative offensives mind to use him though
Marcel Reece never played FB or RB in college and he's done pretty well at those positions.
 
A few weeks old, but didn't see this posted yet.Kyler Reed, TE/FB/H-Back/RB Nebraska6'2-1/8" 225 lbs4.47 4041" Vertical10'7" Broad Jump19 Reps4.00 Shuttle6.62 3-Cone
Taylor Martinez was unable to really take advantage of this guys skills because of his inaccuracy. Reed also didn't see a full complement of snaps because Cotton was a better blocker however he made plays when called upon. Could just be a Dorin Dickerson or Charles Clay type rather than Aaron Hernandez or even James Casey. Will likely get.lost in shuffle with all solid TE's in this draft. He did not.line up as a FB very often and never as a RB so projecting him there is wishful thinking. Should be interesting to see where he goes because he is a willing blocker who can stretch the field. Will take a creative offensives mind to use him though
Marcel Reece never played FB or RB in college and he's done pretty well at those positions.
Him & Leonard Weaver, but what are the odds?
 
A few weeks old, but didn't see this posted yet.Kyler Reed, TE/FB/H-Back/RB Nebraska6'2-1/8" 225 lbs4.47 4041" Vertical10'7" Broad Jump19 Reps4.00 Shuttle6.62 3-Cone
Taylor Martinez was unable to really take advantage of this guys skills because of his inaccuracy. Reed also didn't see a full complement of snaps because Cotton was a better blocker however he made plays when called upon. Could just be a Dorin Dickerson or Charles Clay type rather than Aaron Hernandez or even James Casey. Will likely get.lost in shuffle with all solid TE's in this draft. He did not.line up as a FB very often and never as a RB so projecting him there is wishful thinking. Should be interesting to see where he goes because he is a willing blocker who can stretch the field. Will take a creative offensives mind to use him though
Marcel Reece never played FB or RB in college and he's done pretty well at those positions.
Him & Leonard Weaver, but what are the odds?
Stacked against him. I'd prefer him at WR full-time. Too light to be a blocker.
 
Jamaine Cook, RB Youngstown State

5'8-1/2" 209 lbs

4.79 40

40-1/2" Vertical

10'3" Broad Jump

4.19 Shuttle

6.76 3-Cone

23 Reps

Bowling ball type runner:

His 40 time is poor, but I love the rest of his numbers. Indicates he explosive in short areas.

 
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A few weeks old, but didn't see this posted yet.Kyler Reed, TE/FB/H-Back/RB Nebraska6'2-1/8" 225 lbs4.47 4041" Vertical10'7" Broad Jump19 Reps4.00 Shuttle6.62 3-Cone
Taylor Martinez was unable to really take advantage of this guys skills because of his inaccuracy. Reed also didn't see a full complement of snaps because Cotton was a better blocker however he made plays when called upon. Could just be a Dorin Dickerson or Charles Clay type rather than Aaron Hernandez or even James Casey. Will likely get.lost in shuffle with all solid TE's in this draft. He did not.line up as a FB very often and never as a RB so projecting him there is wishful thinking. Should be interesting to see where he goes because he is a willing blocker who can stretch the field. Will take a creative offensives mind to use him though
Marcel Reece never played FB or RB in college and he's done pretty well at those positions.
Him & Leonard Weaver, but what are the odds?
Stacked against him. I'd prefer him at WR full-time. Too light to be a blocker.
He doesn't have the quickness out of his breaks to be a WR, I've seen a bunch of him as my in-laws have season tickets and they live in London so they give them to us most of the season
 
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Manti Te'o's first 40 clocked by ESPN at 4.75 (McShay) and 4.72 (Josina) by two different timers. Range of times by others reportedly between 4.64 and 4.75.

Second run, McShay had at 4.71.

 
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What's with these linebackers running so slow?
Is 4.7.-4.8 really slow for a LB? 6'1" 240 is a big human. Realistically, very few players that size are going to motor a 4.5 or better.Te'o is built a lot like Burfict, who clocked 5.0 last year at the combine before having an excellent rookie season. For an inside linebacker, I'm just not sure you need a great deal of long speed. It just doesn't seem to be a huge part of the job description.
 
What's with these linebackers running so slow?
Is 4.7.-4.8 really slow for a LB? 6'1" 240 is a big human. Realistically, very few players that size are going to motor a 4.5 or better.Te'o is built a lot like Burfict, who clocked 5.0 last year at the combine before having an excellent rookie season. For an inside linebacker, I'm just not sure you need a great deal of long speed. It just doesn't seem to be a huge part of the job description.
It's not slow but it's about average, tons of very similar ILB's in the draft. Jon Bostic is the only guy who really stands out among the ILB's but he's never lived up to his potential.
 
What's with these linebackers running so slow?
Is 4.7.-4.8 really slow for a LB? 6'1" 240 is a big human. Realistically, very few players that size are going to motor a 4.5 or better.Te'o is built a lot like Burfict, who clocked 5.0 last year at the combine before having an excellent rookie season. For an inside linebacker, I'm just not sure you need a great deal of long speed. It just doesn't seem to be a huge part of the job description.
It's not slow but it's about average, tons of very similar ILB's in the draft. Jon Bostic is the only guy who really stands out among the ILB's but he's never lived up to his potential.
But man can he knock you out. With his fist.
 
Solid for Wood, would have liked to see a faster 40 for a guy I consider a COP prospect. But its a positive that he put on more weight. Do we have a vertical/broad, or did he stand on his combine numbers?

 
Really curious to see how Curtis McNeal and Spencer Ware test tomorrow. Very surprised that McNeal didn't even get a combine invite. 6.0 YPC in 2012. 6.9 YPC and 1000+ rushing yards in 2011. All of this at USC against major competition. I know he's short, but surely he deserves a look. I think he has a chance to make a team.

As for Ware, I don't know why he didn't run at the combine. He's not nursing any injuries that I'm aware of. He's not some kind of a superstar prospect who can afford to skip the workouts. I guess he wanted more time to work on his numbers and figured that every team will come out LSU's pro day since it's such a big program. Should be interesting to see how he runs and jumps.

 
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Really curious to see how Curtis McNeal and Spencer Ware test tomorrow. Very surprised that McNeal didn't even get a combine invite. 6.0 YPC in 2012. 6.9 YPC and 1000+ rushing yards in 2011. All of this at USC against major competition. I know he's short, but surely he deserves a look. I think he has a chance to make a team.As for Ware, I don't know why he didn't run at the combine. He's not nursing any injuries that I'm aware of. He's not some kind of a superstar prospect who can afford to skip the workouts. I guess he wanted more time to work on his numbers and figured that every team will come out LSU's pro day since it's such a big program. Should be interesting to see how he runs and jumps.
I think McNeal's gonna run a 4.45 or better and measure 5'6". I'll take him over Barner, and maybe Rouse.
 
What's with these linebackers running so slow?
Is 4.7.-4.8 really slow for a LB? 6'1" 240 is a big human. Realistically, very few players that size are going to motor a 4.5 or better.Te'o is built a lot like Burfict, who clocked 5.0 last year at the combine before having an excellent rookie season. For an inside linebacker, I'm just not sure you need a great deal of long speed. It just doesn't seem to be a huge part of the job description.
I dunno. I guess I'm just remembering recent guys like McClain, Curry, and Willis all running in the 4.5's/4.6's so in my head an ILB runs in the 4.6's.But then you look at the careers of guys like McClain and Curry and you wonder how much it matters. :shrug:
 
Spencer Ware:

http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=205112574

5'10" 222

Three Cone - 7.24

Bench - 14 reps

Vert - 36.5"

Broad - 9'11"

Shuttles - 4.33/12.04

40 - DNP

Slow time in the shuttle runs and refusal to run the 40 tells me he's probably hiding something in regards to his straight line speed. Disappointing. I bet he was clocking in the 4.7-4.8 range in his testing and figured that he would be better off not putting a slow time out there.

USC pro day is going on right now. I'll check the results later today.

 
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Cierre Wood, RB Notre Dame 5'11-1/4", 218 lbs (213 at Combine)4.52 406.87 3-Cone4.28 Short ShuttleSolid numbers.http://blogs.etruth.com/notre-dame-coverage/files/2013/03/PRODAY.png
Those are solid numbers. He might get a chance as an everydown back and not a COP.
 
This wasn't the case for cornerback Nickell Robey, however, who dropped several potential "interceptions" in drills. Robey wowed scouts with a 40.5-inch vertical jump Wednesday morning but he didn't use his explosiveness when it mattered most, often leaping as the ball arrived only to catch the ball at chest-level or lower.
I'm rooting for this guy. Only 5-7, 169 but he reminds me of Bob Sanders.
 
This wasn't the case for cornerback Nickell Robey, however, who dropped several potential "interceptions" in drills. Robey wowed scouts with a 40.5-inch vertical jump Wednesday morning but he didn't use his explosiveness when it mattered most, often leaping as the ball arrived only to catch the ball at chest-level or lower.
I'm rooting for this guy. Only 5-7, 169 but he reminds me of Bob Sanders.
Sanders is a Safety, though.
 

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