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2013 Off Season Dynasty Trade Thread (for completed trades) (2 Viewers)

I Gave: Darren McFadden

I received: John Skelton, 1.09, (2) 2014 Second rounders, (2) 2014 Third rounders.
I'm sure he was just a throw in to even out rosters, but having John Skelton's name in there just makes the deal look bad for you at first glance.

I'm not a big McFadden fan so I think you are better off with the picks. I would be looking to take Lattimore or another decent RB with that 1.09.

 
I Gave: Darren McFadden

I received: John Skelton, 1.09, (2) 2014 Second rounders, (2) 2014 Third rounders.
In my leagues where I need a RB pretty bad I would easily give that for McFadden but they don't give them RB's away in my leagues.

Maybe you turn the picks to gold maybe McFadden continues to get hurt who knows but I would buy if I need a RB as I do in my leagues.

 
My other backs in this league are Adrian Peterson, David Wilson, Jonathan Stewart, Daryl Richardson, and Ronnie Hillman. I have the opportunity to select Andre Brown (he's unrostered) or Zac Stacy with the pick, thus solidifying my odds of hitting the starter on either the Giants or the Rams. This is a 10 team start 2qb league. I am hoping that Geno Smith slides to me at 10. I doubt he does. EJ Manuel will be gone for sure. Bell and Ball are going to be gone.

That leaves me with Patterson, Hopkins, Lacy, Bernard, and Austin....one of these guys will be available (maybe 2). I'm ok with any of these picks this year to be honest. I think I end up with Lacy. Although I live in Packer country so it might be Bernard or one of the wideouts. Worst case I just select Brown to pair with Wilson but I think that's reaching for him. I can't see selecting Andre Brown when Gio Bernard is staring me in the face. I would really prefer not to select a wide receiver in the spot so if all the RBs are gone it comes down to three wideouts that were all selected in the first round this season.

 
Traded away: McFadden

got: Pead, 3.06 and a '14 1st (probably mid-late pick)

team in sig
Practically giving away DMC unless Pead emerges as the undisputed starter over Richardson/Stacy and that is assuming that he will be just as productive as McFadden (who is the undisputed starter and the Raiders are on record that they will be featuring him in the offense this season). Just my :2cents:

 
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In a dynasty start-up (PPR)

I gave:

Pick #104 (used on Bernard Pierce)

Pick #115 (used on Cecil Shorts)

2014 3rd

I received:

Shane Vereen (went at #102)

Pick #196

2014 7th

With small roster sizes (20) the 2014 3rd isn't worth as much in my mind, and already have 5 2014 1sts/2nds.

I way over-payed based on pick value, but I am happy with Vereen and an open roster spot over Pierce/Shorts/2014 3rd in this format.

 
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cdubz said:
In a dynasty start-up (PPR)

I gave:

Pick #104 (used on Bernard Pierce)

Pick #115 (used on Cecil Shorts)

2014 3rd

I received:

Shane Vereen (went at #102)

Pick #196

2014 7th

With small roster sizes (20) the 2014 3rd isn't worth as much in my mind, and already have 5 2014 1sts/2nds.

I way over-payed based on pick value, but I am happy with Vereen and an open roster spot over Pierce/Shorts/2014 3rd in this format.
I think you gave up the best two players in the deal for the 3rd best; assuming Vereen ends up better than whoever gets taken with the 2014 3rd.

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
GeeYouknit said:
Just happened in 1 of my leagues, not involved (start 2QB) Vick and 4.08forCam Hoping it gets veto'd (commissioner veto only, and 2ndary commish is the one getting Cam...). I don't care how high you are Vick and believer in him in Kelly's offense this is bad value.
This is a horrible trade in any league.In a 2QB league, this could be a league killer. Seriously, it's that bad, and it will swing power in the league THAT much towards the guy getting a top-3 player in that league for free. Your league should be scared, if that trade stands. And I never support vetoes. It's just that bad.
Yeah, it hurts just to read it. Likely the commish and several owners put a lot of time and effort into the league only to have this happen. Yuck. :(

 
cdubz said:
In a dynasty start-up (PPR)

I gave:

Pick #104 (used on Bernard Pierce)

Pick #115 (used on Cecil Shorts)

2014 3rd

I received:

Shane Vereen (went at #102)

Pick #196

2014 7th

With small roster sizes (20) the 2014 3rd isn't worth as much in my mind, and already have 5 2014 1sts/2nds.

I way over-payed based on pick value, but I am happy with Vereen and an open roster spot over Pierce/Shorts/2014 3rd in this format.
I think you gave up the best two players in the deal for the 3rd best; assuming Vereen ends up better than whoever gets taken with the 2014 3rd.
This is certainly possible, if Pierce gets his chance soon this trade will look pretty silly on my part.

Assumptions going into this is that Pierce is a strict back-up/change of pace to rice for the next 2-3 years and Shorts would have been my WR5. Danny Woodhead was RB24 in this format last year, and I think Vereen is more talented.

 
cdubz said:
In a dynasty start-up (PPR)

I gave:

Pick #104 (used on Bernard Pierce)

Pick #115 (used on Cecil Shorts)

2014 3rd

I received:

Shane Vereen (went at #102)

Pick #196

2014 7th

With small roster sizes (20) the 2014 3rd isn't worth as much in my mind, and already have 5 2014 1sts/2nds.

I way over-payed based on pick value, but I am happy with Vereen and an open roster spot over Pierce/Shorts/2014 3rd in this format.
I think you gave up the best two players in the deal for the 3rd best; assuming Vereen ends up better than whoever gets taken with the 2014 3rd.
This is certainly possible, if Pierce gets his chance soon this trade will look pretty silly on my part.

Assumptions going into this is that Pierce is a strict back-up/change of pace to rice for the next 2-3 years and Shorts would have been my WR5. Danny Woodhead was RB24 in this format last year, and I think Vereen is more talented.
You gave up a lot to upgrade from Vereen to Pierce (and I know a lot of people have Pierce higher). 71 spots is a huge difference even if you value Vereen more than Pierce.

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
GeeYouknit said:
Just happened in 1 of my leagues, not involved (start 2QB) Vick and 4.08forCam Hoping it gets veto'd (commissioner veto only, and 2ndary commish is the one getting Cam...). I don't care how high you are Vick and believer in him in Kelly's offense this is bad value.
This is a horrible trade in any league.In a 2QB league, this could be a league killer. Seriously, it's that bad, and it will swing power in the league THAT much towards the guy getting a top-3 player in that league for free. Your league should be scared, if that trade stands. And I never support vetoes. It's just that bad.
Yeah, it hurts just to read it. Likely the commish and several owners put a lot of time and effort into the league only to have this happen. Yuck. :(
I only want to veto if I suspect collusion and can't conceive of a reason outside of collusion or brain injury for the Cam owner to make this trade.

 
10 team Superflex

Made some recent trades in a complete rebuild:

  • Me gave up Rivers, Philip SDC QB
  • Team X gave up Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.04 (Terrance Williams);Year 2013 Draft Pick 5.03(Marquise Goodwin); Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team X (should be high)
  • Me gave up Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick
  • Team Y gave up Foles, Nick PHI QB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 6.03 (Chris Thompson)
On the Ballard trade, I shopped him to everyone in my league and couldn't get anywhere near the value some people in here are getting. I almost decided to just hang on to him, and maybe I should have. I guess we'll see.

Before 2012 draft:

QBs: Romo, Rivers, Dalton, Palmer, Mallett

RBs: McGahee, Stewart, Quiz, Bilal Powell, Best

WRs: Harvin, Roddy, Welker, Maclin

TEs: Gonzo, ZMiller, Cameron

Now:

QBs: RGIII, Stafford, Palmer, Foles, Mallett, Osweiler

RBs: Stewart, Quiz, Christine Michael, Helu, Felix

WRs: Gordon, Maclin, Hill, Alshon, MFloyd, Randle, Jenkins, DAlexander, Boyce, TWilliams, Goodwin, DHB

TEs: Hernandez, Eifert, Ertz, Cameron

2014 Picks: 2 high 1sts, 2 high 2nds, 2 3rds, 2 high 4ths, 2 high 5ths

I have basically nothing at RB but if half of my young WRs turn out decent I'll be set there, and should be good to go at QB and TE. A few RBs and a couple more WRs next year and I should have a decent team in 1-2 years.

 
10 team Superflex

Made some recent trades in a complete rebuild:

  • Me gave up Rivers, Philip SDC QB
  • Team X gave up Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.04 (Terrance Williams);Year 2013 Draft Pick 5.03(Marquise Goodwin); Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team X (should be high)
  • Me gave up Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick
  • Team Y gave up Foles, Nick PHI QB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 6.03 (Chris Thompson)
On the Ballard trade, I shopped him to everyone in my league and couldn't get anywhere near the value some people in here are getting. I almost decided to just hang on to him, and maybe I should have. I guess we'll see.

Before 2012 draft:

QBs: Romo, Rivers, Dalton, Palmer, Mallett

RBs: McGahee, Stewart, Quiz, Bilal Powell, Best

WRs: Harvin, Roddy, Welker, Maclin

TEs: Gonzo, ZMiller, Cameron

Now:

QBs: RGIII, Stafford, Palmer, Foles, Mallett, Osweiler

RBs: Stewart, Quiz, Christine Michael, Helu, Felix

WRs: Gordon, Maclin, Hill, Alshon, MFloyd, Randle, Jenkins, DAlexander, Boyce, TWilliams, Goodwin, DHB

TEs: Hernandez, Eifert, Ertz, Cameron

2014 Picks: 2 high 1sts, 2 high 2nds, 2 3rds, 2 high 4ths, 2 high 5ths

I have basically nothing at RB but if half of my young WRs turn out decent I'll be set there, and should be good to go at QB and TE. A few RBs and a couple more WRs next year and I should have a decent team in 1-2 years.
The Ballard trade wasn't close to the worst one for you (Manuel....ooof). The other ones were solid.

 
10 team Superflex

Made some recent trades in a complete rebuild:

  • Me gave up Rivers, Philip SDC QB
  • Team X gave up Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.04 (Terrance Williams);Year 2013 Draft Pick 5.03(Marquise Goodwin); Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team X (should be high)
  • Me gave up Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick
  • Team Y gave up Foles, Nick PHI QB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 6.03 (Chris Thompson)
On the Ballard trade, I shopped him to everyone in my league and couldn't get anywhere near the value some people in here are getting. I almost decided to just hang on to him, and maybe I should have. I guess we'll see.

Before 2012 draft:

QBs: Romo, Rivers, Dalton, Palmer, Mallett

RBs: McGahee, Stewart, Quiz, Bilal Powell, Best

WRs: Harvin, Roddy, Welker, Maclin

TEs: Gonzo, ZMiller, Cameron

Now:

QBs: RGIII, Stafford, Palmer, Foles, Mallett, Osweiler

RBs: Stewart, Quiz, Christine Michael, Helu, Felix

WRs: Gordon, Maclin, Hill, Alshon, MFloyd, Randle, Jenkins, DAlexander, Boyce, TWilliams, Goodwin, DHB

TEs: Hernandez, Eifert, Ertz, Cameron

2014 Picks: 2 high 1sts, 2 high 2nds, 2 3rds, 2 high 4ths, 2 high 5ths

I have basically nothing at RB but if half of my young WRs turn out decent I'll be set there, and should be good to go at QB and TE. A few RBs and a couple more WRs next year and I should have a decent team in 1-2 years.
The Ballard trade wasn't close to the worst one for you (Manuel....ooof). The other ones were solid.
The Manuel trade wouldn't have been so bad if he didn't just give away Ballard (should've held until until there are RB injuries). I'm high on Hill though.

 
For more context:

1. Me / Team D Trade

Sun Nov 11 8:08:12 a.m. ET 2012

2. Me / Team Y Trade

Tue Oct 16 9:57:10 a.m. ET 2012

3. Team Y / Me Trade (Needed a kicker before waivers)

  • Team Y gave up Bironas, Rob TEN PK
  • Me gave up Year 2013 Round 8 Draft Pick from
  • Comments: I am going to cut Bironas but will trade him to you for your last pick if you want.
Tue Aug 28 6:35:38 p.m. ET 2012

4. Team Y / Me Trade

  • Team Y gave up Charles, Jamaal KCC RB; Year 2012 Draft Pick 3.08
  • Me gave up Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.02;Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.04;Year 2012 Draft Pick 7.08
Sun Jul 1 2:48:34 p.m. ET 2012

5.Me / Team Y Trade

  • Me gave up Dalton, Andy CIN QB; Year 2012 Draft Pick 4.08;Year 2012 Draft Pick 5.08
  • Team Y gave up Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.02;Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.04;Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.08
Wed Mar 21 7:58:03 a.m. ET 2012

6. Me / Team X Trade

  • Me gave up Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.03
  • Team X gave up Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.01; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team (should be high)
Tue Apr 30 12:30:09 p.m. ET 2013

7. Team Y / Me Trade

Tue Apr 16 5:04:05 p.m. ET 2013

8. Me / Team B Trade

Wed Apr 10 12:14:17 a.m. ET 2013

9. Me / Team C Trade

Tue Mar 5 7:11:40 a.m. ET 2013

 
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The Manuel trade wouldn't have been so bad if he didn't just give away Ballard (should've held until until there are RB injuries). I'm high on Hill though.
These are my thoughts as well. I like Manuel and am not especially high on Ballard, but I'd still prefer the RB in most situations.

 
7. Team Y / Me Trade

Tue Apr 16 5:04:05 p.m. ET 2013

8. Me / Team B Trade

Wed Apr 10 12:14:17 a.m. ET 2013

9. Me / Team C Trade

Tue Mar 5 7:11:40 a.m. ET 2013
Most of the others were OK, but I don't like any of these for you.

7. Giving up Gordon and 1.03 (which I actually really like this year) for a bunch of old guys doesn't seem too wise. You will get one year out of Gonzo, and Welker is getting up there and is in a new offense. I wouldn't give Gordon for Welker straight up, and I sure wouldn't give the 1.03 for Gonzo and Romo.

8. I am just a little gun shy on RG3 because of the injury. I wouldn't give up a potential top 5 WR for a guy who relies on speed coming off a serious knee injury.

9. I think Charles is going to be huge for the next few years, and those top flight RB's are really hard to find. The league is changing, and more and more QB's are becoming relevant. The opposite is true of the RB position, where there are more committees. If I have a top flight RB, I'm hanging on to him unless the deal just blows me a way.

 
7. Team Y / Me Trade

Tue Apr 16 5:04:05 p.m. ET 2013

8. Me / Team B Trade

Wed Apr 10 12:14:17 a.m. ET 2013

9. Me / Team C Trade

Tue Mar 5 7:11:40 a.m. ET 2013
Most of the others were OK, but I don't like any of these for you.

7. Giving up Gordon and 1.03 (which I actually really like this year) for a bunch of old guys doesn't seem too wise. You will get one year out of Gonzo, and Welker is getting up there and is in a new offense. I wouldn't give Gordon for Welker straight up, and I sure wouldn't give the 1.03 for Gonzo and Romo.

8. I am just a little gun shy on RG3 because of the injury. I wouldn't give up a potential top 5 WR for a guy who relies on speed coming off a serious knee injury.

9. I think Charles is going to be huge for the next few years, and those top flight RB's are really hard to find. The league is changing, and more and more QB's are becoming relevant. The opposite is true of the RB position, where there are more committees. If I have a top flight RB, I'm hanging on to him unless the deal just blows me a way.
If this is all superflex too, I like 8 and 9 for him in a big way. And he got Gordon and 1.03 - just not sure I like moving Romo in a SF.

 
Thoughts on the Blockbuster?
Honestly, when I see trades like these my eyes just gloss over. So many variables it's hard to know where to start let alone evaluate the entire thing.

 
[*]TEAM A gave up Jackson, Steven ATL RB;Moore, Denarius OAK WR; Newton, Cam CAR QB;Green, A.J. CIN WR

[*]TEAM B gave up Johnson, Chris TEN RB;Jackson, DeSean PHI WR; Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB;Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR;White, Roddy ATL WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.06; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from HitNRun;Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from HitNRun; Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from HitNRun

Thoughts on the Blockbuster?
Honestly, when I see trades like these my eyes just gloss over. So many variables it's hard to know where to start let alone evaluate the entire thing.
I saw AJ and Cam on one side and didn't have to look any further
 
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Posted a few days ago but didnt get any feedback. Thoughts?

10 Team PPR Superflex

Gave: D. Wilson, Matthews, Eifert

Received: Shady McCoy, Kelce

 
[*]TEAM A gave up Jackson, Steven ATL RB;Moore, Denarius OAK WR; Newton, Cam CAR QB;Green, A.J. CIN WR

[*]TEAM B gave up Johnson, Chris TEN RB;Jackson, DeSean PHI WR; Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB;Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR;White, Roddy ATL WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.06; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from HitNRun;Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from HitNRun; Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from HitNRun

Thoughts on the Blockbuster?
Honestly, when I see trades like these my eyes just gloss over. So many variables it's hard to know where to start let alone evaluate the entire thing.
I saw AJ and Cam on one side and didn't have to look any further
I don't understand Team A's reasoning here. It makes no sense whether he's a contender or rebuilding.

 
Posted a few days ago but didnt get any feedback. Thoughts?10 Team PPR SuperflexGave: D. Wilson, Matthews, EifertReceived: Shady McCoy, Kelce
If people don't reply it's usually because it's pretty fair. I'll take the Wilson side and try to move Mathews.

 
7. Team Y / Me Trade

Tue Apr 16 5:04:05 p.m. ET 2013

8. Me / Team B Trade

Wed Apr 10 12:14:17 a.m. ET 2013

9. Me / Team C Trade

Tue Mar 5 7:11:40 a.m. ET 2013
Most of the others were OK, but I don't like any of these for you.

7. Giving up Gordon and 1.03 (which I actually really like this year) for a bunch of old guys doesn't seem too wise. You will get one year out of Gonzo, and Welker is getting up there and is in a new offense. I wouldn't give Gordon for Welker straight up, and I sure wouldn't give the 1.03 for Gonzo and Romo.

8. I am just a little gun shy on RG3 because of the injury. I wouldn't give up a potential top 5 WR for a guy who relies on speed coming off a serious knee injury.

9. I think Charles is going to be huge for the next few years, and those top flight RB's are really hard to find. The league is changing, and more and more QB's are becoming relevant. The opposite is true of the RB position, where there are more committees. If I have a top flight RB, I'm hanging on to him unless the deal just blows me a way.
7. He's the one getting Gordon. Ridiculously in favor of his side.

 
7. Team Y / Me Trade

Tue Apr 16 5:04:05 p.m. ET 2013

8. Me / Team B Trade

Wed Apr 10 12:14:17 a.m. ET 2013

9. Me / Team C Trade

Tue Mar 5 7:11:40 a.m. ET 2013
Most of the others were OK, but I don't like any of these for you.

7. Giving up Gordon and 1.03 (which I actually really like this year) for a bunch of old guys doesn't seem too wise. You will get one year out of Gonzo, and Welker is getting up there and is in a new offense. I wouldn't give Gordon for Welker straight up, and I sure wouldn't give the 1.03 for Gonzo and Romo.

8. I am just a little gun shy on RG3 because of the injury. I wouldn't give up a potential top 5 WR for a guy who relies on speed coming off a serious knee injury.

9. I think Charles is going to be huge for the next few years, and those top flight RB's are really hard to find. The league is changing, and more and more QB's are becoming relevant. The opposite is true of the RB position, where there are more committees. If I have a top flight RB, I'm hanging on to him unless the deal just blows me a way.
If this is all superflex too, I like 8 and 9 for him in a big way. And he got Gordon and 1.03 - just not sure I like moving Romo in a SF.
Ah, didn't see that he got Gordon. I like that for him. I agree if it is superflex it makes the other too much better, but I still come down on the other side.

 
Posted a few days ago but didnt get any feedback. Thoughts?10 Team PPR SuperflexGave: D. Wilson, Matthews, EifertReceived: Shady McCoy, Kelce
If people don't reply it's usually because it's pretty fair. I'll take the Wilson side and try to move Mathews.
Yeah, unfortunately this thread turns into a "look how much I ripped off the other guy". Thanks for the post. Those are the ones that are actually helpful to other owners. :)
 
7. Team Y / Me Trade

Tue Apr 16 5:04:05 p.m. ET 2013

8. Me / Team B Trade

Wed Apr 10 12:14:17 a.m. ET 2013

9. Me / Team C Trade

Tue Mar 5 7:11:40 a.m. ET 2013
Most of the others were OK, but I don't like any of these for you.

7. Giving up Gordon and 1.03 (which I actually really like this year) for a bunch of old guys doesn't seem too wise. You will get one year out of Gonzo, and Welker is getting up there and is in a new offense. I wouldn't give Gordon for Welker straight up, and I sure wouldn't give the 1.03 for Gonzo and Romo.

8. I am just a little gun shy on RG3 because of the injury. I wouldn't give up a potential top 5 WR for a guy who relies on speed coming off a serious knee injury.

9. I think Charles is going to be huge for the next few years, and those top flight RB's are really hard to find. The league is changing, and more and more QB's are becoming relevant. The opposite is true of the RB position, where there are more committees. If I have a top flight RB, I'm hanging on to him unless the deal just blows me a way.
If this is all superflex too, I like 8 and 9 for him in a big way. And he got Gordon and 1.03 - just not sure I like moving Romo in a SF.
Ah, didn't see that he got Gordon. I like that for him. I agree if it is superflex it makes the other too much better, but I still come down on the other side.
Appreciate the feedback, thought others might be interested in discussing a rebuild a year into it and the trades along the way. It is a superflex, so it made it hard to give up Romo but at that point already had RGIII and Stafford. I was also trying to get younger, and had shopped Romo to just about every team in our league.

 
12 Team, PPR, 1 QB/2 RB/2 WR/ 1 TE/ 1 FLEX

Team A (contendor) gave:

Dez and Ivory

for

Team B (rebuilding) gave:

Arian Foster

 
Pick 5 has been making the rounds in one of my leagues.

12 team, 1/2 ppr for WR/TE only. Start Q/R/R/W/W/W/T/flex. 4 yr max contracts, 5 man rookie squad, 2 man Devy squad for 2nd yr players. Each team receives $500 per season to use on free agents during the year and on restricted free agents whose contracts are up.

May 6:
AL receives Justin Blackmon (3 yr) + $80
PC receives 1.05

May 10:
PC receives Jake Locker (3 yr), D.Alexander (4), Roddy White (1), J.Finley (4), 2014 3rd rounder
BB receives Heyward-Bey (1), A.Gates (2), 1.05

May 20 (during our rookie draft):
BB receives $275, 2014 1st rounder (mid-late)
PC receives Tavon Austin (picked at 1.05)

Prior to the trades, Finley went for $60 and Alexander went for $105 in RFA.

To gauge value of money, Crabtree went for $350, Nicks $300, and Harvin $505 this year.
 
7. Team Y / Me Trade

[*]Team Y gave up Gordon, Josh CLE WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.03;Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.03

[*]Me gave up Romo, Tony DAL QB;Welker, Wes DEN WR;Gonzalez, Tony ATL TE

Tue Apr 16 5:04:05 p.m. ET 2013

8. Me / Team B Trade

[*]Me gave up Harvin, Percy SEA WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.04

[*]Team B gave up Griffin III, Robert WAS QB;Jeffery, Alshon CHI WR

Wed Apr 10 12:14:17 a.m. ET 2013

9. Me / Team C Trade

[*]Me gave up Charles, Jamaal KCC RB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 4.04

[*]Team C gave up Stafford, Matthew DET QB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.02

Tue Mar 5 7:11:40 a.m. ET 2013
Most of the others were OK, but I don't like any of these for you.7. Giving up Gordon and 1.03 (which I actually really like this year) for a bunch of old guys doesn't seem too wise. You will get one year out of Gonzo, and Welker is getting up there and is in a new offense. I wouldn't give Gordon for Welker straight up, and I sure wouldn't give the 1.03 for Gonzo and Romo.

8. I am just a little gun shy on RG3 because of the injury. I wouldn't give up a potential top 5 WR for a guy who relies on speed coming off a serious knee injury.

9. I think Charles is going to be huge for the next few years, and those top flight RB's are really hard to find. The league is changing, and more and more QB's are becoming relevant. The opposite is true of the RB position, where there are more committees. If I have a top flight RB, I'm hanging on to him unless the deal just blows me a way.
If this is all superflex too, I like 8 and 9 for him in a big way. And he got Gordon and 1.03 - just not sure I like moving Romo in a SF.
Ah, didn't see that he got Gordon. I like that for him. I agree if it is superflex it makes the other too much better, but I still come down on the other side.
Appreciate the feedback, thought others might be interested in discussing a rebuild a year into it and the trades along the way. It is a superflex, so it made it hard to give up Romo but at that point already had RGIII and Stafford. I was also trying to get younger, and had shopped Romo to just about every team in our league.
Except mine, you Richard.
 
7. Team Y / Me Trade

[*]Team Y gave up Gordon, Josh CLE WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.03;Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.03

[*]Me gave up Romo, Tony DAL QB;Welker, Wes DEN WR;Gonzalez, Tony ATL TE

Tue Apr 16 5:04:05 p.m. ET 2013

8. Me / Team B Trade

[*]Me gave up Harvin, Percy SEA WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.04

[*]Team B gave up Griffin III, Robert WAS QB;Jeffery, Alshon CHI WR

Wed Apr 10 12:14:17 a.m. ET 2013

9. Me / Team C Trade

[*]Me gave up Charles, Jamaal KCC RB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 4.04

[*]Team C gave up Stafford, Matthew DET QB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.02

Tue Mar 5 7:11:40 a.m. ET 2013
Most of the others were OK, but I don't like any of these for you.7. Giving up Gordon and 1.03 (which I actually really like this year) for a bunch of old guys doesn't seem too wise. You will get one year out of Gonzo, and Welker is getting up there and is in a new offense. I wouldn't give Gordon for Welker straight up, and I sure wouldn't give the 1.03 for Gonzo and Romo.

8. I am just a little gun shy on RG3 because of the injury. I wouldn't give up a potential top 5 WR for a guy who relies on speed coming off a serious knee injury.

9. I think Charles is going to be huge for the next few years, and those top flight RB's are really hard to find. The league is changing, and more and more QB's are becoming relevant. The opposite is true of the RB position, where there are more committees. If I have a top flight RB, I'm hanging on to him unless the deal just blows me a way.
If this is all superflex too, I like 8 and 9 for him in a big way. And he got Gordon and 1.03 - just not sure I like moving Romo in a SF.
Ah, didn't see that he got Gordon. I like that for him. I agree if it is superflex it makes the other too much better, but I still come down on the other side.
Appreciate the feedback, thought others might be interested in discussing a rebuild a year into it and the trades along the way. It is a superflex, so it made it hard to give up Romo but at that point already had RGIII and Stafford. I was also trying to get younger, and had shopped Romo to just about every team in our league.
Except mine, you Richard.
That's what you get for not checking trade bait :P

 
[*]TEAM A gave up Jackson, Steven ATL RB;Moore, Denarius OAK WR; Newton, Cam CAR QB;Green, A.J. CIN WR

[*]TEAM B gave up Johnson, Chris TEN RB;Jackson, DeSean PHI WR; Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB;Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR;White, Roddy ATL WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.06; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from HitNRun;Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from HitNRun; Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from HitNRun

Thoughts on the Blockbuster?
Honestly, when I see trades like these my eyes just gloss over. So many variables it's hard to know where to start let alone evaluate the entire thing.
I saw AJ and Cam on one side and didn't have to look any further
I don't understand Team A's reasoning here. It makes no sense whether he's a contender or rebuilding.
Maybe all he had was Cam and AJ, and does not have faith in those players like you do? maybe? just maybe? White put up 1.5 points fewer then Green. While Big Ben put up 3 points less then Cam. Now I'm sure Nicks and picks could make up other 5 points, no? People dont just trade to get players, they trade cuz they have a team to run and have to field a team.

Some look at Green and say you gotta give me the house, and you wonder why those trades are not made, then some look at him as one studly WR, why not get 2 studly wrs and picks, regardless of name. Its a production game, also some are only worth what others will pay. All I could get was that for Green, easy to drive by with "dont understand team as reasoning." Well shoot why would you? you just see names here, not the entire team, so why would you understand a teams reasoning? But I understand you are assuming in a vaccum, but its not. as you can start 4 WRs.

Also what was Nicks preseason dyno ranking last year? So things can change QUICKLY!

Green < White and Nicks

Sjax < CJ?K

DMoore < Djax

Cam> Big Ben

0 picks < 3.6 and 1,2,3 in 2014

While yes he gets the studly names and youth, you really tell me Team A did not better his team.

 
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[*]TEAM A gave up Jackson, Steven ATL RB;Moore, Denarius OAK WR; Newton, Cam CAR QB;Green, A.J. CIN WR

[*]TEAM B gave up Johnson, Chris TEN RB;Jackson, DeSean PHI WR; Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB;Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR;White, Roddy ATL WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.06; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from HitNRun;Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from HitNRun; Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from HitNRun

Thoughts on the Blockbuster?
Honestly, when I see trades like these my eyes just gloss over. So many variables it's hard to know where to start let alone evaluate the entire thing.
I saw AJ and Cam on one side and didn't have to look any further
I don't understand Team A's reasoning here. It makes no sense whether he's a contender or rebuilding.
Maybe all he had was Cam and AJ, and does not have faith in those players like you do? maybe? just maybe? White put up 1.5 points fewer then Green. While Big Ben put up 3 points less then Cam. Now I'm sure Nicks and picks could make up other 5 points, no? People dont just trade to get players, they trade cuz they have a team to run and have to field a team.Some look at Green and say you gotta give me the house, and you wonder why those trades are not made, then some look at him as one studly WR, why not get 2 studly wrs and picks, regardless of name. Its a production game, also some are only worth what others will pay. All I could get was that for Green, easy to drive by with "dont understand team as reasoning." Well shoot why would you? you just see names here, not the entire team, so why would you understand a teams reasoning? But I understand you are assuming in a vaccum, but its not. as you can start 4 WRs.

Also what was Nicks preseason dyno ranking last year? So things can change QUICKLY!

Green < White and Nicks

Sjax < CJ?K

DMoore < Djax

Cam> Big Ben

0 picks < 3.6 and 1,2,3 in 2014

While yes he gets the studly names and youth, you really tell me Team A did not better his team.
This is where we differ:Green>>White and Nicks

Cam>>>Ben

Others don't do much for me either way, but Team A does get the picks

 
[*]TEAM A gave up Jackson, Steven ATL RB;Moore, Denarius OAK WR; Newton, Cam CAR QB;Green, A.J. CIN WR

[*]TEAM B gave up Johnson, Chris TEN RB;Jackson, DeSean PHI WR; Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB;Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR;White, Roddy ATL WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.06; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from HitNRun;Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from HitNRun; Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from HitNRun

Thoughts on the Blockbuster?
Honestly, when I see trades like these my eyes just gloss over. So many variables it's hard to know where to start let alone evaluate the entire thing.
I saw AJ and Cam on one side and didn't have to look any further
I don't understand Team A's reasoning here. It makes no sense whether he's a contender or rebuilding.
Maybe all he had was Cam and AJ, and does not have faith in those players like you do? maybe? just maybe? White put up 1.5 points fewer then Green. While Big Ben put up 3 points less then Cam. Now I'm sure Nicks and picks could make up other 5 points, no? People dont just trade to get players, they trade cuz they have a team to run and have to field a team.Some look at Green and say you gotta give me the house, and you wonder why those trades are not made, then some look at him as one studly WR, why not get 2 studly wrs and picks, regardless of name. Its a production game, also some are only worth what others will pay. All I could get was that for Green, easy to drive by with "dont understand team as reasoning." Well shoot why would you? you just see names here, not the entire team, so why would you understand a teams reasoning? But I understand you are assuming in a vaccum, but its not. as you can start 4 WRs.

Also what was Nicks preseason dyno ranking last year? So things can change QUICKLY!

Green < White and Nicks

Sjax < CJ?K

DMoore < Djax

Cam> Big Ben

0 picks < 3.6 and 1,2,3 in 2014

While yes he gets the studly names and youth, you really tell me Team A did not better his team.
This is where we differ:Green>>White and Nicks

Cam>>>Ben

Others don't do much for me either way, but Team A does get the picks
Also, do not know how big a factor, but Team A got Pitta too, so add that to the mix. I missed that myself. So it turns out to be....

[*]TEAM A gave up Jackson, Steven ATL RB;Moore, Denarius OAK WR; Newton, Cam CAR QB;Green, A.J. CIN WR

[*]TEAM B gave up Johnson, Chris TEN RB;Jackson, DeSean PHI WR; Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB;Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR;White, Roddy ATL WR; Pitta, Dennis BAL TE; Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.06; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from HitNRun;Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from HitNRun; Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from HitNRun

 
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[*]TEAM A gave up Jackson, Steven ATL RB;Moore, Denarius OAK WR; Newton, Cam CAR QB;Green, A.J. CIN WR

[*]TEAM B gave up Johnson, Chris TEN RB;Jackson, DeSean PHI WR; Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB;Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR;White, Roddy ATL WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.06; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from HitNRun;Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from HitNRun; Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from HitNRun

Thoughts on the Blockbuster?
Honestly, when I see trades like these my eyes just gloss over. So many variables it's hard to know where to start let alone evaluate the entire thing.
I saw AJ and Cam on one side and didn't have to look any further
I don't understand Team A's reasoning here. It makes no sense whether he's a contender or rebuilding.
Maybe all he had was Cam and AJ, and does not have faith in those players like you do? maybe? just maybe? White put up 1.5 points fewer then Green. While Big Ben put up 3 points less then Cam. Now I'm sure Nicks and picks could make up other 5 points, no? People dont just trade to get players, they trade cuz they have a team to run and have to field a team.Some look at Green and say you gotta give me the house, and you wonder why those trades are not made, then some look at him as one studly WR, why not get 2 studly wrs and picks, regardless of name. Its a production game, also some are only worth what others will pay. All I could get was that for Green, easy to drive by with "dont understand team as reasoning." Well shoot why would you? you just see names here, not the entire team, so why would you understand a teams reasoning? But I understand you are assuming in a vaccum, but its not. as you can start 4 WRs.

Also what was Nicks preseason dyno ranking last year? So things can change QUICKLY!

Green < White and Nicks

Sjax < CJ?K

DMoore < Djax

Cam> Big Ben

0 picks < 3.6 and 1,2,3 in 2014

While yes he gets the studly names and youth, you really tell me Team A did not better his team.
Why post the trade if you don't want feedback?
 
[*]TEAM A gave up Jackson, Steven ATL RB;Moore, Denarius OAK WR; Newton, Cam CAR QB;Green, A.J. CIN WR

[*]TEAM B gave up Johnson, Chris TEN RB;Jackson, DeSean PHI WR; Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB;Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR;White, Roddy ATL WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.06; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from HitNRun;Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from HitNRun; Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from HitNRun

Thoughts on the Blockbuster?
Honestly, when I see trades like these my eyes just gloss over. So many variables it's hard to know where to start let alone evaluate the entire thing.
I saw AJ and Cam on one side and didn't have to look any further
I don't understand Team A's reasoning here. It makes no sense whether he's a contender or rebuilding.
Maybe all he had was Cam and AJ, and does not have faith in those players like you do? maybe? just maybe? White put up 1.5 points fewer then Green. While Big Ben put up 3 points less then Cam. Now I'm sure Nicks and picks could make up other 5 points, no? People dont just trade to get players, they trade cuz they have a team to run and have to field a team.Some look at Green and say you gotta give me the house, and you wonder why those trades are not made, then some look at him as one studly WR, why not get 2 studly wrs and picks, regardless of name. Its a production game, also some are only worth what others will pay. All I could get was that for Green, easy to drive by with "dont understand team as reasoning." Well shoot why would you? you just see names here, not the entire team, so why would you understand a teams reasoning? But I understand you are assuming in a vaccum, but its not. as you can start 4 WRs.

Also what was Nicks preseason dyno ranking last year? So things can change QUICKLY!

Green < White and Nicks

Sjax < CJ?K

DMoore < Djax

Cam> Big Ben

0 picks < 3.6 and 1,2,3 in 2014

While yes he gets the studly names and youth, you really tell me Team A did not better his team.
Why post the trade if you don't want feedback?
So if i get feedback, I must agree with it and not discuss? Noted.

Thoughts?

 
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  • Team Haterade gave up Ivory, Christopher NYJ RB; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team Haterade
  • Hippies Hitters gave up Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Hippies Hitters
 
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