2013 Off Season Dynasty Trade Thread (for completed trades) (1 Viewer)

[loose circuits]

Cobb has the potential to be an elite top 5 WR IMO especially now that he is going to be taken off the return game. While Hilton has potential, he isn't close because of the injury history & lack of physicality- a gamble at 1.04 does not close that gap.

Cobb is not elite or top 5 IMO. He is a solid WR2 with low end WR1 potential to me. If you see him as elite then you certainly make that trade. I just don't. There is little separation between him and Hilton to me.

I said potential to be elite. Remember he hasn't been a full-time WR until this year which makes is upside higher. Hilton has a long list of injuries that go way back throughout his college years. While he has potential as well, he's small and doesn't seem to have strength to make him elite. I see his upside as Mike Wallace

 

[loose circuits]

Mathews, Ronnie Brown, 4.07

For

BGE, 1.06, 2014 3rd

I'm not a fan of Mathews so I think it was extreme value for the other side, but there is upside there

 

[JackReacher]

Cobb has the potential to be an elite top 5 WR IMO especially now that he is going to be taken off the return game. While Hilton has potential, he isn't close because of the injury history & lack of physicality- a gamble at 1.04 does not close that gap.

Cobb is not elite or top 5 IMO. He is a solid WR2 with low end WR1 potential to me. If you see him as elite then you certainly make that trade. I just don't. There is little separation between him and Hilton to me.

I said potential to be elite. Remember he hasn't been a full-time WR until this year which makes is upside higher. Hilton has a long list of injuries that go way back throughout his college years. While he has potential as well, he's small and doesn't seem to have strength to make him elite. I see his upside as Mike Wallace

Have to take issue with the Hilton injury claims. I don't have the numbers in front of me but I live in Miami where he played high school and college ball. I only remember him being dinged during his senior year with the ankle. It limited him but he played through it. He only got stronger in his rookie year while other rooks faded.. No doubt he's a bit undersized but he has super-quicks. My comp for him is Desean but he has much better character and a much better quarterback.

 

[loose circuits]

Cobb has the potential to be an elite top 5 WR IMO especially now that he is going to be taken off the return game. While Hilton has potential, he isn't close because of the injury history & lack of physicality- a gamble at 1.04 does not close that gap.

Cobb is not elite or top 5 IMO. He is a solid WR2 with low end WR1 potential to me. If you see him as elite then you certainly make that trade. I just don't. There is little separation between him and Hilton to me.

I said potential to be elite. Remember he hasn't been a full-time WR until this year which makes is upside higher. Hilton has a long list of injuries that go way back throughout his college years. While he has potential as well, he's small and doesn't seem to have strength to make him elite. I see his upside as Mike Wallace

Have to take issue with the Hilton injury claims. I don't have the numbers in front of me but I live in Miami where he played high school and college ball. I only remember him being dinged during his senior year with the ankle. It limited him but he played through it. He only got stronger in his rookie year while other rooks faded.. No doubt he's a bit undersized but he has super-quicks. My comp for him is Desean but he has much better character and a much better quarterback.

Fair enough, I'm only repeating what I have read. http://www.footballnation.com/content/ty-hilton-previewing-colts-rookie-wr/14885/ Can't use quote feature on my I-phone. This isn't the only report of Hilton's hammy's Hilton’s second issue is that he is somewhat injury prone. During his college career Hilton often suffered hamstring injuries, which kept him out of several games including all-star games and the NFL combine. After the first day of Colt’s mini-camp in early May, Hilton had to leave because of strained quadriceps.

Colt’s coach Chuck Pagano commented on Hilton’s injury saying, “he’s a little banged up. I know he can run and I know he is explosive.”

Hilton’s durability (or lack thereof) might compromise his playing time in 2012. However, this is a rebuilding year for the Colts, and Hilton will have his chances to prove himself at the professional level. With a new QB and other offensive weapons, Hilton could become a great receiving option for Andrew Lock. No matter what, I am certain we will see him on the field as the special teams punt and kick receiver at the Colts opening game. As long as he can stay healthy, that is.

 

[Runningman]

I gave, Anthony spencer, Tony Moaeki, 1.09, and 3.09 for Jermaine Gresham, David Harris, and 1.02.

 

[ghostguy123]

12 team PPR dynasty

Cecil shorts

Bryce brown

Two 2014 1sts that I think will both be top 6

For

Roddy white

Steven Jackson

 

[cstu]

12 team PPR dynastyCecil shortsBryce brownTwo 2014 1sts that I think will both be top 6ForRoddy whiteSteven Jackson

That's way over-paying for some old guys.

 

[cstu]

I gave, Anthony spencer, Tony Moaeki, 1.09, and 3.09 for Jermaine Gresham, David Harris, and 1.02.

 

[cstu]

Cobb has the potential to be an elite top 5 WR IMO especially now that he is going to be taken off the return game. While Hilton has potential, he isn't close because of the injury history & lack of physicality- a gamble at 1.04 does not close that gap.

Cobb is not elite or top 5 IMO. He is a solid WR2 with low end WR1 potential to me. If you see him as elite then you certainly make that trade. I just don't. There is little separation between him and Hilton to me.

I said potential to be elite. Remember he hasn't been a full-time WR until this year which makes is upside higher. Hilton has a long list of injuries that go way back throughout his college years. While he has potential as well, he's small and doesn't seem to have strength to make him elite. I see his upside as Mike Wallace

Have to take issue with the Hilton injury claims. I don't have the numbers in front of me but I live in Miami where he played high school and college ball. I only remember him being dinged during his senior year with the ankle. It limited him but he played through it. He only got stronger in his rookie year while other rooks faded.. No doubt he's a bit undersized but he has super-quicks. My comp for him is Desean but he has much better character and a much better quarterback.

Fair enough, I'm only repeating what I have read. http://www.footballnation.com/content/ty-hilton-previewing-colts-rookie-wr/14885/ Can't use quote feature on my I-phone. This isn't the only report of Hilton's hammy's Hilton’s second issue is that he is somewhat injury prone. During his college career Hilton often suffered hamstring injuries, which kept him out of several games including all-star games and the NFL combine. After the first day of Colt’s mini-camp in early May, Hilton had to leave because of strained quadriceps.

Colt’s coach Chuck Pagano commented on Hilton’s injury saying, “he’s a little banged up. I know he can run and I know he is explosive.”

Hilton’s durability (or lack thereof) might compromise his playing time in 2012. However, this is a rebuilding year for the Colts, and Hilton will have his chances to prove himself at the professional level. With a new QB and other offensive weapons, Hilton could become a great receiving option for Andrew Lock. No matter what, I am certain we will see him on the field as the special teams punt and kick receiver at the Colts opening game. As long as he can stay healthy, that is.

At least they're only muscle issues, but they have plagued him. He pulled his hamstring during his Pro Day and hurt his quad during mini camp. He also missed week 1 due to a shoulder injury but to his credit stayed healthy the rest of the season (other than a concussion).

 

[One More Rep]

Mathews, Ronnie Brown, 4.07 For BGE, 1.06, 2014 3rdI'm not a fan of Mathews so I think it was extreme value for the other side, but there is upside there

Yeah I will take the pick also

 

[One More Rep]

12 team PPR dynastyCecil shortsBryce brownTwo 2014 1sts that I think will both be top 6ForRoddy whiteSteven Jackson

I like Shorts/Brown and the 2 firsts

 

[doowain]

Mathews, Ronnie Brown, 4.07 For BGE, 1.06, 2014 3rdI'm not a fan of Mathews so I think it was extreme value for the other side, but there is upside there

Yeah I will take the pick also

Nope. Perfect buy low on Mathews.

 

[JackReacher]

Cobb has the potential to be an elite top 5 WR IMO especially now that he is going to be taken off the return game. While Hilton has potential, he isn't close because of the injury history & lack of physicality- a gamble at 1.04 does not close that gap.

Cobb is not elite or top 5 IMO. He is a solid WR2 with low end WR1 potential to me. If you see him as elite then you certainly make that trade. I just don't. There is little separation between him and Hilton to me.

I said potential to be elite. Remember he hasn't been a full-time WR until this year which makes is upside higher. Hilton has a long list of injuries that go way back throughout his college years. While he has potential as well, he's small and doesn't seem to have strength to make him elite. I see his upside as Mike Wallace

Have to take issue with the Hilton injury claims. I don't have the numbers in front of me but I live in Miami where he played high school and college ball. I only remember him being dinged during his senior year with the ankle. It limited him but he played through it. He only got stronger in his rookie year while other rooks faded.. No doubt he's a bit undersized but he has super-quicks. My comp for him is Desean but he has much better character and a much better quarterback.

Fair enough, I'm only repeating what I have read. http://www.footballnation.com/content/ty-hilton-previewing-colts-rookie-wr/14885/ Can't use quote feature on my I-phone. This isn't the only report of Hilton's hammy's Hilton’s second issue is that he is somewhat injury prone. During his college career Hilton often suffered hamstring injuries, which kept him out of several games including all-star games and the NFL combine. After the first day of Colt’s mini-camp in early May, Hilton had to leave because of strained quadriceps.

Colt’s coach Chuck Pagano commented on Hilton’s injury saying, “he’s a little banged up. I know he can run and I know he is explosive.”

Hilton’s durability (or lack thereof) might compromise his playing time in 2012. However, this is a rebuilding year for the Colts, and Hilton will have his chances to prove himself at the professional level. With a new QB and other offensive weapons, Hilton could become a great receiving option for Andrew Lock. No matter what, I am certain we will see him on the field as the special teams punt and kick receiver at the Colts opening game. As long as he can stay healthy, that is.

Mea Culpa - thought it was the ankle, not the hamstring which hampered him. Hammies do scare me but I would still very much hesitate to put Hilton in the injury prone category. That has been his only notable injury and he played though it most of the time.

 

[loose circuits]

I really don't think Kyle Rudolph is all that amazing. I guess his name is hot because of the Pro Bowl, but I consider him an average to below average TE1 for FF purposes. He's a solid player with good strength and hands. He should continue to be a good red zone weapon. But he basically has no speed and explosiveness. Ran a 4.8 in the 40 at his pro day. 9.6 yards per catch as a rookie and 9.3 as a second year player. He can't make things happen with the ball in his hands.

I have him in one league and I'll keep him because I have a really thin team with weak options at TE, but in general I think selling him for the 1.07 is good value. You can get a guy like Rudolph at any time. Even in this draft class alone I think Eifert is probably a better TE prospect and Ertz might be too.

The Julio deal is another story. That is a real catastrophe for whoever gave him up, IMO.

If you're looking for a more explosive te, eiffert isn't him. He's made his name catching jump balls, which ironically is Rudolph's game too.

I'd bet money on Eifert being faster than Rudolph. He has pretty good speed for a TE. Of course, he's also a bit smaller. And despite his speed, he doesn't always get great separation out of his breaks. My point wasn't that Eifert is some kind of amazing HOF prospect. It was the Rudolph really isn't that amazing either. I see him as a good, solid TE1 without great upside. Something like a Heath Miller/Greg Olsen/Jermaine Gresham type of player. Those guys are good to have on your roster, but at the same time they aren't really going to elevate your team single-handedly. Basically, I see Rudolph as a high floor/low ceiling kind of guy. Very likely to stick around and contribute for a long time. Very unlikely to become Gonzo/Gates/Graham/Gronk etc.

what did Eifert time?

 

[Azhais]

what did Eifert time?

Eifert ran a 4.6 compared to Rudolph's 4.83 (tho Kyle was nursing a hamstring, so that might have hurt him)

 

[Phenix]

[*]Comatose Sleepers gave up Jennings, Greg GBP WR

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Posey, DeVier HOU WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.03

 

[cstu]

what did Eifert time?

Eifert ran a 4.6 compared to Rudolph's 4.83 (tho Kyle was nursing a hamstring, so that might have hurt him)

Eifert ran a 4.68, which I think it comparable Ruldolph's time considering he weighs 9 lbs. less. Personally I don't think either one is a top 5 TE talent but both are capable of being TE1's.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

•SOGGY WAFFLES gave up Mathews, Ryan SDC RB;Shorts, Cecil JAC WR

•Comatose Sleepers gave up Tolbert, Mike CAR RB;Floyd, Malcom SDC WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.01;Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.02; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Comatose Sleepers

 

[One More Rep]

•SOGGY WAFFLES gave up Mathews, Ryan SDC RB;Shorts, Cecil JAC WR•Comatose Sleepers gave up Tolbert, Mike CAR RB;Floyd, Malcom SDC WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.01;Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.02; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Comatose Sleepers

I like Shorts but I will take the 1.1

 

[Phenix]

•SOGGY WAFFLES gave up Mathews, Ryan SDC RB;Shorts, Cecil JAC WR•Comatose Sleepers gave up Tolbert, Mike CAR RB;Floyd, Malcom SDC WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.01;Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.02; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Comatose Sleepers

I like Shorts but I will take the 1.1

You are down on Mathews from the things I see in this thread. I think a new coach makes a difference for him.

 

[One More Rep]

•SOGGY WAFFLES gave up Mathews, Ryan SDC RB;Shorts, Cecil JAC WR•Comatose Sleepers gave up Tolbert, Mike CAR RB;Floyd, Malcom SDC WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.01;Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.02; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Comatose Sleepers

I like Shorts but I will take the 1.1

You are down on Mathews from the things I see in this thread. I think a new coach makes a difference for him.

I just don't think he can stay healthy. I know the talent is there

 

[Phenix]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Jackson, DeSean PHI WR

[*]Flying Ninja Monkeys gave up Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

 

[gianmarco]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Jackson, DeSean PHI WR

[*]Flying Ninja Monkeys gave up Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

That rare trade when both sides lose.

 

[East Bay Rounder]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Jackson, DeSean PHI WR

[*]Flying Ninja Monkeys gave up Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

That rare trade when both sides lose.

What do es it mean when someone says this? I understand that both have their question marks, but what exactly does it mean with "both sides lose"?

 

[gianmarco]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Jackson, DeSean PHI WR

[*]Flying Ninja Monkeys gave up Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

That rare trade when both sides lose.

What do es it mean when someone says this? I understand that both have their question marks, but what exactly does it mean with "both sides lose"?

It's the definition of a joke. Just a little humor since I'm not expecting much from either.

 

[East Bay Rounder]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Jackson, DeSean PHI WR

[*]Flying Ninja Monkeys gave up Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

That rare trade when both sides lose.

What do es it mean when someone says this? I understand that both have their question marks, but what exactly does it mean with "both sides lose"?

It's the definition of a joke. Just a little humor since I'm not expecting much from either.

LOL... Oh... I've heard it a couple times before and wondering if there was something else to it...

 

[HachiGO]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Jackson, DeSean PHI WR

[*]Flying Ninja Monkeys gave up Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

That rare trade when both sides lose.

I'd be pumped to get DeSean Jackson for that? Guess I'm just higher on djax than you

 

[cstu]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Jackson, DeSean PHI WR

[*]Flying Ninja Monkeys gave up Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

That rare trade when both sides lose.

I'd be pumped to get DeSean Jackson for that? Guess I'm just higher on djax than you

I'm not even that high on DeSean but that's very little to give up for him.

 

[One More Rep]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Jackson, DeSean PHI WR

[*]Flying Ninja Monkeys gave up Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

Djax for me also

 

[Skeletore Eh]

PPR, start 1 QBTeam A gives: 1.10, A Hernandez, Bradford Team B gives: 4.04 (1st round of FA draft), A Jeffery, Kaepernick

Kaepernick side. I like Hernandez but I am pretty high on Kaepernick

I'd take Hernandez side pretty easily. Pick is a bonus to me.

 

[Phenix]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Jackson, DeSean PHI WR

[*]Flying Ninja Monkeys gave up Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

That rare trade when both sides lose.

I'd be pumped to get DeSean Jackson for that? Guess I'm just higher on djax than you

A guy with a concussion history who has never had over 63 catches and last 1000 yard season 3 years ago, or a starting RB who just went over a 1000 yards this past year and has very low miles???Yup why did I give up DJax for so little. ADP is exactly the same according to MFL. Thats the problem with drive by critiques, you dont see everyting.

My remaining WRS, Glad I traded my #5 WR...

Britt, Kenny TEN WR

Gibson, Brandon STL WR

Jackson, Vincent TBB WR

Jennings, Greg GBP WR

Johnson, Andre HOU WR

Jones, Jacoby BAL WR

Jones, James GBP WR

Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR

Wright, Jarius MIN WR

For depth at RB...

Bolden, Brandon NEP RB

Bush, Michael CHI RB

Bush, Reggie MIA RB

Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

Ivory, Christopher NOS RB

Morris, Alfred WAS RB

Peterson, Adrian MIN RB

Sproles, Darren NOS RB

Turner, Michael FA* RB

 

[Rolling_akg]

Team a gives 1.6 and 1.8

Team b gives k wright and 1.12

 

[JPeso]

I don't care if DeSean is my WR10, I'm not dealing him for BJGE under any circumstance.

 

[cstu]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Jackson, DeSean PHI WR

[*]Flying Ninja Monkeys gave up Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

That rare trade when both sides lose.

I'd be pumped to get DeSean Jackson for that? Guess I'm just higher on djax than you

A guy with a concussion history who has never had over 63 catches and last 1000 yard season 3 years ago, or a starting RB who just went over a 1000 yards this past year and has very low miles???Yup why did I give up DJax for so little. ADP is exactly the same according to MFL. Thats the problem with drive by critiques, you dont see everyting.

My remaining WRS, Glad I traded my #5 WR...

BJGE is a 28 yo average back - low miles means nothing for a guy like that. The Bengals will almost certainly draft a RB and there's a big risk that they take a RB to replace him. If you wanted BJGE you should have waited until after the draft, not now.DeSean went 91 and BJGE went 139 in my startup.

 

[jonboltz]

I don't care if DeSean is my WR10, I'm not dealing him for BJGE under any circumstance.

If you are going to site "BJGE is starting RB who just went over 1000 yards", I'd worry that you are taking past performance too much in consideration, and perhaps ignoring the huge red flag and great depreciation in value that BJGE will receive between March 12th and April 27th.

 

[I was in the pool]

12-team, PPR. Start 1 RB, 1 WR, 3 Flex

Team A receives: Jordy Nelson (becomes by far their best WR)

Team B receives: 1.10, 14 1st (Nelson was their WR4/5)

 

[I was in the pool]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Jackson, DeSean PHI WR

[*]Flying Ninja Monkeys gave up Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

That rare trade when both sides lose.

I'd be pumped to get DeSean Jackson for that? Guess I'm just higher on djax than you

A guy with a concussion history who has never had over 63 catches and last 1000 yard season 3 years ago, or a starting RB who just went over a 1000 yards this past year and has very low miles???Yup why did I give up DJax for so little. ADP is exactly the same according to MFL. Thats the problem with drive by critiques, you dont see everyting.

My remaining WRS, Glad I traded my #5 WR...

BJGE is a 28 yo average back - low miles means nothing for a guy like that. The Bengals will almost certainly draft a RB and there's a big risk that they take a RB to replace him. If you wanted BJGE you should have waited until after the draft, not now.DeSean went 91 and BJGE went 139 in my startup.

Yep. These middling older RBs are players with the most value to lose this time of year. Any RB of substance drafted or signed in the coming two months will squeeze off a bunch of their remaining value. Buyer Beware.

 

[One More Rep]

Team a gives 1.6 and 1.8Team b gives k wright and 1.12

Wright side

 

[I was in the pool]

Team a gives 1.6 and 1.8Team b gives k wright and 1.12

Outside of a certain player or two making it to 1.06, I like the Wright side. 1.8-mid 2nd will be a pretty flat tier IMO

 

[One More Rep]

12-team, PPR. Start 1 RB, 1 WR, 3 FlexTeam A receives: Jordy Nelson (becomes by far their best WR)Team B receives: 1.10, 14 1st (Nelson was their WR4/5)

I prefer Jordy over the picks

 

[cstu]

Team a gives 1.6 and 1.8Team b gives k wright and 1.12

Outside of a certain player or two making it to 1.06, I like the Wright side. 1.8-mid 2nd will be a pretty flat tier IMO

I'm not a fan of Wright and would take my chances on the 6 and 8.

 

[Phenix]

I don't care if DeSean is my WR10, I'm not dealing him for BJGE under any circumstance.

If you are going to site "BJGE is starting RB who just went over 1000 yards", I'd worry that you are taking past performance too much in consideration, and perhaps ignoring the huge red flag and great depreciation in value that BJGE will receive between March 12th and April 27th.

Maybe, but what has DJax done? Also, Bengals have no other RB but the Firm, I hope they draft someone, and if they do. The firm does not become useless. I am confused as to why everyone thinks Cincy just has no use for Firm and why DJax is worth more. Based off what DJax awesome production over the last few years? One more concussion and he is done. Best and Collie ring a bell? Avoid the pun. DJax is risky. The firm had 278 carries in just 15 games before not playing week 17 and averaged 5.9 yards a carry in the playoff game. Thanks for the opinions, but I believe some watch ESPN too much. You know, they have never been wrong ever, so i understand somes conviction.

 

[JPeso]

I don't care if DeSean is my WR10, I'm not dealing him for BJGE under any circumstance.

If you are going to site "BJGE is starting RB who just went over 1000 yards", I'd worry that you are taking past performance too much in consideration, and perhaps ignoring the huge red flag and great depreciation in value that BJGE will receive between March 12th and April 27th.

Maybe, but what has DJax done? Also, Bengals have no other RB but the Firm, I hope they draft someone, and if they do. The firm does not become useless. I am confused as to why everyone thinks Cincy just has no use for Firm and why DJax is worth more. Based off what DJax awesome production over the last few years? One more concussion and he is done. Best and Collie ring a bell? Avoid the pun. DJax is risky. The firm had 278 carries in just 15 games before not playing week 17 and averaged 5.9 yards a carry in the playoff game. Thanks for the opinions, but I believe some watch ESPN too much. You know, they have never been wrong ever, so i understand somes conviction.

You've got the wrong guy as I fade media more than I follow.I'm not suggesting I would love to have DeSean (used to be quite high on him but yes, the concussions not something I want to mess with). My bet(and rightfully so) is I can get more parlaying DeSean in leagues than I could BJGE. And until that opportunity came to sell DeSean (not suggesting a forced sell here), I've at least got a guy on my team that can go insane at any given point. Doesn't matter that he isn't close to my lineup but I am also betting that BJGE's 9-10 PPG prospectively isn't making anyone excited.

 

[JPeso]

Team a gives 1.6 and 1.8Team b gives k wright and 1.12

Outside of a certain player or two making it to 1.06, I like the Wright side. 1.8-mid 2nd will be a pretty flat tier IMO

I'm not a fan of Wright and would take my chances on the 6 and 8.

I will take 6/8 as well.

 

[Phenix]

Team a gives 1.6 and 1.8Team b gives k wright and 1.12

Outside of a certain player or two making it to 1.06, I like the Wright side. 1.8-mid 2nd will be a pretty flat tier IMO

I'm not a fan of Wright and would take my chances on the 6 and 8.

Do some realize trades are to help out individual teams, and not always about the value of the player? Maybe he Needs a TE at #6 and had no problem getting rid of white as he may have just acquired DJax. This thread of critiquing is useless if you base it off just player for player values.In a earlier post someone said if DJax was his #10 WR on the team he would not trade him for BJGE. Do some not realize 10 wrs dont help if you have no depth at RB? Fantasy trading 101 really.Why some win titles, and others dont I guess.

 

[JPeso]

•SOGGY WAFFLES gave up Mathews, Ryan SDC RB;Shorts, Cecil JAC WR•Comatose Sleepers gave up Tolbert, Mike CAR RB;Floyd, Malcom SDC WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.01;Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.02; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Comatose Sleepers

It's impressive when I still see exits of Mathews at this clip

 

[JPeso]

Team a gives 1.6 and 1.8

Team b gives k wright and 1.12

Outside of a certain player or two making it to 1.06, I like the Wright side. 1.8-mid 2nd will be a pretty flat tier IMO

I'm not a fan of Wright and would take my chances on the 6 and 8.

Do some realize trades are to help out individual teams, and not always about the value of the player? Maybe he Needs a TE at #6 and had no problem getting rid of white as he may have just acquired DJax. This thread of critiquing is useless if you base it off just player for player values.In a earlier post someone said if DJax was his #10 WR on the team he would not trade him for BJGE. Do some not realize 10 wrs dont help if you have no depth at RB? Fantasy trading 101 really.

Why some win titles, and others dont I guess.

Teach me!

 

[Phenix]

I don't care if DeSean is my WR10, I'm not dealing him for BJGE under any circumstance.

If you are going to site "BJGE is starting RB who just went over 1000 yards", I'd worry that you are taking past performance too much in consideration, and perhaps ignoring the huge red flag and great depreciation in value that BJGE will receive between March 12th and April 27th.

Maybe, but what has DJax done? Also, Bengals have no other RB but the Firm, I hope they draft someone, and if they do. The firm does not become useless. I am confused as to why everyone thinks Cincy just has no use for Firm and why DJax is worth more. Based off what DJax awesome production over the last few years? One more concussion and he is done. Best and Collie ring a bell? Avoid the pun. DJax is risky. The firm had 278 carries in just 15 games before not playing week 17 and averaged 5.9 yards a carry in the playoff game. Thanks for the opinions, but I believe some watch ESPN too much. You know, they have never been wrong ever, so i understand somes conviction.

You've got the wrong guy as I fade media more than I follow.I'm not suggesting I would love to have DeSean (used to be quite high on him but yes, the concussions not something I want to mess with). My bet(and rightfully so) is I can get more parlaying DeSean in leagues than I could BJGE. And until that opportunity came to sell DeSean (not suggesting a forced sell here), I've at least got a guy on my team that can go insane at any given point. Doesn't matter that he isn't close to my lineup but I am also betting that BJGE's 9-10 PPG prospectively isn't making anyone excited.

Are you in my league, and were you privy to the other offers I have been sending out to see what i could get for him. Your opinion is fine and dandy, and false, as I did get all I could for him. i have been in negotiations for weeks trying to move him. The firm averaged 11.58 points last year, Djax averaged 11.48 in the games he did play last year and 11.5 the year earlier. So again how is it not fair, and what value does the same production give me if i wont play him but need the depth at RB?

 

[Phenix]

Team a gives 1.6 and 1.8

Team b gives k wright and 1.12

Outside of a certain player or two making it to 1.06, I like the Wright side. 1.8-mid 2nd will be a pretty flat tier IMO

I'm not a fan of Wright and would take my chances on the 6 and 8.

Do some realize trades are to help out individual teams, and not always about the value of the player? Maybe he Needs a TE at #6 and had no problem getting rid of white as he may have just acquired DJax. This thread of critiquing is useless if you base it off just player for player values.In a earlier post someone said if DJax was his #10 WR on the team he would not trade him for BJGE. Do some not realize 10 wrs dont help if you have no depth at RB? Fantasy trading 101 really.

Why some win titles, and others dont I guess.

Teach me!

I am, and with facts and stats too. Not just an opinion.But yes, highlight that and respond to nothing else. lol

 

[Donsmith753]

•SOGGY WAFFLES gave up Mathews, Ryan SDC RB;Shorts, Cecil JAC WR•Comatose Sleepers gave up Tolbert, Mike CAR RB;Floyd, Malcom SDC WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.01;Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.02; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Comatose Sleepers

It's impressive when I still see exits of Mathews at this clip

It just speaks to the value of drafting young RBs in startups. Things couldn't really have gone much worse for him and still he holds value.