2013 Off Season Dynasty Trade Thread (for completed trades) (1 Viewer)

[JPeso]

I don't care if DeSean is my WR10, I'm not dealing him for BJGE under any circumstance.

If you are going to site "BJGE is starting RB who just went over 1000 yards", I'd worry that you are taking past performance too much in consideration, and perhaps ignoring the huge red flag and great depreciation in value that BJGE will receive between March 12th and April 27th.

Maybe, but what has DJax done? Also, Bengals have no other RB but the Firm, I hope they draft someone, and if they do. The firm does not become useless. I am confused as to why everyone thinks Cincy just has no use for Firm and why DJax is worth more. Based off what DJax awesome production over the last few years? One more concussion and he is done. Best and Collie ring a bell? Avoid the pun. DJax is risky. The firm had 278 carries in just 15 games before not playing week 17 and averaged 5.9 yards a carry in the playoff game. Thanks for the opinions, but I believe some watch ESPN too much. You know, they have never been wrong ever, so i understand somes conviction.

You've got the wrong guy as I fade media more than I follow.I'm not suggesting I would love to have DeSean (used to be quite high on him but yes, the concussions not something I want to mess with). My bet(and rightfully so) is I can get more parlaying DeSean in leagues than I could BJGE. And until that opportunity came to sell DeSean (not suggesting a forced sell here), I've at least got a guy on my team that can go insane at any given point. Doesn't matter that he isn't close to my lineup but I am also betting that BJGE's 9-10 PPG prospectively isn't making anyone excited.

Are you in my league, and were you privy to the other offers I have been sending out to see what i could get for him. Your opinion is fine and dandy, and false, as I did get all I could for him. i have been in negotiations for weeks trying to move him. The firm averaged 11.58 points last year, Djax averaged 11.48 in the games he did play last year and 11.5 the year earlier. So again how is it not fair, and what value does the same production give me if i wont play him but need the depth at RB?

As alluded to earlier, it's not simply enough to weight the past in a bubble. Regarding your league, of course I am not in your league and so if that is what your 12-team market is like than I guess you can be happy. I would have just hold on to DeSean if I was in your league regardless, unless you immediately sell BJGE. Like, immediately. Not backed up with anything but my opinion.

 

[JPeso]

•SOGGY WAFFLES gave up Mathews, Ryan SDC RB;Shorts, Cecil JAC WR•Comatose Sleepers gave up Tolbert, Mike CAR RB;Floyd, Malcom SDC WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.01;Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.02; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Comatose Sleepers

It's impressive when I still see exits of Mathews at this clip

It just speaks to the value of drafting young RBs in startups. Things couldn't really have gone much worse for him and still he holds value.

I don't really come to that conclusion here. I think about how the sun gods have blessed me with Dez Bryant and CJ Spiller instead.

 

[greeklightnin]

The book is out on Djax. People are only taking him on as a throw-in, same as bjge

 

[loose circuits]

Heard Joe Reedy on Sirius yesterday discussing how the Bengals are looking for an explosive COP back, not a replacement. Could BGE be a better buy after draft, maybe....

 

[JPeso]

The book is out on Djax. People are only taking him on as a throw-in, same as bjge

A 2013 off-season sell isn't necessarily advised.

 

[JPeso]

Team a gives 1.6 and 1.8

Team b gives k wright and 1.12

Outside of a certain player or two making it to 1.06, I like the Wright side. 1.8-mid 2nd will be a pretty flat tier IMO

I'm not a fan of Wright and would take my chances on the 6 and 8.

Do some realize trades are to help out individual teams, and not always about the value of the player? Maybe he Needs a TE at #6 and had no problem getting rid of white as he may have just acquired DJax. This thread of critiquing is useless if you base it off just player for player values.In a earlier post someone said if DJax was his #10 WR on the team he would not trade him for BJGE. Do some not realize 10 wrs dont help if you have no depth at RB? Fantasy trading 101 really.

Why some win titles, and others dont I guess.

Teach me!

I am, and with facts and stats too. Not just an opinion.But yes, highlight that and respond to nothing else. lol

Completely guilty of talking/responding to 1/20th of what someone's point in.Regarding having 10 WRs... I guess I try to play dynasty now by thinking about what other people should like. I know what I like. For me I'd prefer rolling out DeSean as an upside my WR4 over BJGE as my RB3 if I was staring down a trio of monsters who near 25 points in half of their outings. You aren't going to beat that with 10 points. You need 20+ or you're getting bounced.

It is an opinion of mine of 1) what keeps me winning and 2) what the exit price of a player if I did need to sell out and truly address another position. Facts don't simply come in numbers (at least not a dictionary written by me)

 

[Rolling_akg]

I only put the trade I put out there to see what people thought. Not any special analysis. Thanks guys

 

[Runningman]

I gave, Anthony spencer, Tony Moaeki, 1.09, and 3.09 for Jermaine Gresham, David Harris, and 1.02.

is that confused why the trade was done or what it was? IDP league, Anthony Spencer, Tony Moeaki, rookie pick 1.09 and 3.09 for Jermaine Gresham, David Harris, and rookie pick 1.02.

 

[BlackMamba24]

PPR trade

gave: 1.3 + M Austin

Got: Harvin

 

[Deuceman]

I only put the trade I put out there to see what people thought. Not any special analysis. Thanks guys

I used to put my deals out, I don't anymore. I find others do that a lot for me anyway. I like the thread and love to see deals on here. It's a great gauge for value and the like but at the end of the day it's ur team and u pay the leagues fees. Go with ur gut, if ur right so be it, if ur wrong so be it too. It's only a game. The back and forth is amusing though.

 

[Mimo]

•SOGGY WAFFLES gave up Mathews, Ryan SDC RB;Shorts, Cecil JAC WR•Comatose Sleepers gave up Tolbert, Mike CAR RB;Floyd, Malcom SDC WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.01;Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.02; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Comatose Sleepers

It's impressive when I still see exits of Mathews at this clip

It just speaks to the value of drafting young RBs in startups. Things couldn't really have gone much worse for him and still he holds value.

I don't really come to that conclusion here. I think about how the sun gods have blessed me with Dez Bryant and CJ Spiller instead.

You've probably have been blessed with a Shonn Greene here and there too.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

•SOGGY WAFFLES gave up Mathews, Ryan SDC RB;Shorts, Cecil JAC WR•Comatose Sleepers gave up Tolbert, Mike CAR RB;Floyd, Malcom SDC WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.01;Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.02; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Comatose Sleepers

It's impressive when I still see exits of Mathews at this clip

It just speaks to the value of drafting young RBs in startups. Things couldn't really have gone much worse for him and still he holds value.

I don't really come to that conclusion here. I think about how the sun gods have blessed me with Dez Bryant and CJ Spiller instead.

Some one is a little full of themselves huh?

 

[One More Rep]

PPR tradegave: 1.3 + M AustinGot: Harvin

Give me Harvin

 

[finito]

PPR tradegave: 1.3 + M AustinGot: Harvin

Give me Harvin

Me too, though I do think Austin is underrated at this point, so if the 1.03 hits it could be a decent trade for both teams.

 

[Spin]

Just happened in one of my leagues.

1qb/2rb/3wr/1te/1 flex (any)/idp ppr

Number in parentheses is years left on contract out of 100. After contract is up they become rfa where owners can match high bids if they have enough free agent "cash". Team A has most "cash" in league by far. So will.probably be able to keep Peterson going forward. B will likely lose Foster.

Team A gives Cam Newton(8) Arian Foster(1)

Team B giveseterson (1), 1.6, 1.7, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4

Notable players on roster not in trade.

Team A:

Locker, Cutler, Vick, Gabbert

McCoy, Bryce Brown, Tate

T. Smith, Cobb, Britt, Hilton, Djax

Team B:

Shaub, Fitzpatrick

Alfred Morris, Mendenhall

Wayne, Cruz, Andre Johnson, Jennings

Team A won it all two years ago and has yet to be back in playoffs, finishing 7th last year.

Team B has finished 4th, 5th, 4th over last three years. Will now be able to have a starting true qb1 for 8 years and flex Shaub.

I like the side getting Cam. Stud qbs are so valuable when you can start two qb if you want.

 

[JPeso]

PPR tradegave: 1.3 + M AustinGot: Harvin

Nice deal

 

[JPeso]

I like the side getting Cam. Stud qbs are so valuable when you can start two qb if you want.

i agree

 

[JPeso]

Some one is a little full of themselves huh?

Apologies, it did read that way, if only typing brought through facial expressions. Overdrafting RBs because of scarcity isn't the conclusion I would have made. I don't want to have to rely on that one owner to have to bail me out.

 

[JPeso]

•SOGGY WAFFLES gave up Mathews, Ryan SDC RB;Shorts, Cecil JAC WR•Comatose Sleepers gave up Tolbert, Mike CAR RB;Floyd, Malcom SDC WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.01;Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.02; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Comatose Sleepers

It's impressive when I still see exits of Mathews at this clip

It just speaks to the value of drafting young RBs in startups. Things couldn't really have gone much worse for him and still he holds value.

I don't really come to that conclusion here. I think about how the sun gods have blessed me with Dez Bryant and CJ Spiller instead.

You've probably have been blessed with a Shonn Greene here and there too.

not shonn greene but a #### load of others, eddie royal and braylon edwards both did me dirty

 

[Ernol]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Jackson, DeSean PHI WR

[*]Flying Ninja Monkeys gave up Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

That rare trade when both sides lose.

I'd be pumped to get DeSean Jackson for that? Guess I'm just higher on djax than you

A guy with a concussion history who has never had over 63 catches and last 1000 yard season 3 years ago, or a starting RB who just went over a 1000 yards this past year and has very low miles???Yup why did I give up DJax for so little. ADP is exactly the same according to MFL. Thats the problem with drive by critiques, you dont see everyting.

My remaining WRS, Glad I traded my #5 WR...

Britt, Kenny TEN WR

Gibson, Brandon STL WR

Jackson, Vincent TBB WR

Jennings, Greg GBP WR

Johnson, Andre HOU WR

Jones, Jacoby BAL WR

Jones, James GBP WR

Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR

Wright, Jarius MIN WR

For depth at RB...

Bolden, Brandon NEP RB

Bush, Michael CHI RB

Bush, Reggie MIA RB

Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

Ivory, Christopher NOS RB

Morris, Alfred WAS RB

Peterson, Adrian MIN RB

Sproles, Darren NOS RB

Turner, Michael FA* RB

I see you give a lot of weight to ADP on MFL. Sounds like that may have been used against you in this case to get you to cough up DJax for this price. Given this roster, I would have kept DJax for the upside in trade value down the road. His value can't get much lower than an ADP that matches BJGE. I don't own DJax in any league of mine, but I'd be looking to buy at this price.

 

[Ernol]

Mathews, Ronnie Brown, 4.07 For BGE, 1.06, 2014 3rdI'm not a fan of Mathews so I think it was extreme value for the other side, but there is upside there

Yeah I will take the pick also

Nope. Perfect buy low on Mathews.

I tend to agree with this. Mathews' value is getting beat up right now, but I really like this price for him.

 

[Donsmith753]

Some one is a little full of themselves huh?

Apologies, it did read that way, if only typing brought through facial expressions. Overdrafting RBs because of scarcity isn't the conclusion I would have made. I don't want to have to rely on that one owner to have to bail me out.

That wasnt really my point though. I wasn't saying you should overdraft RBs, I was making a note about the way a young RB holds his value. Mathews is pretty much the worse case scenario and still going as a top 20ish RB and commanding reasonable trade value. David Wilson and Lamar miller haven't really done too much yet and both have seen their value increase massively since they were drafted.

 

[ghostguy123]

Some one is a little full of themselves huh?

Apologies, it did read that way, if only typing brought through facial expressions. Overdrafting RBs because of scarcity isn't the conclusion I would have made. I don't want to have to rely on that one owner to have to bail me out.

That wasnt really my point though. I wasn't saying you should overdraft RBs, I was making a note about the way a young RB holds his value. Mathews is pretty much the worse case scenario and still going as a top 20ish RB and commanding reasonable trade value. David Wilson and Lamar miller haven't really done too much yet and both have seen their value increase massively since they were drafted.

It's all a case by case basis anyway. Mathews has lost a ton of value, and rightfully so. Unlike Wilson and Miller, we have seen a prety big sample size of mathews, and it's much more bad than good. Mostly from constantly being hurt, but it's not like his perfomance when healthy has been "great", though he did have one nice year. Also, it's not like he is an elite talent. Now when it comes to Wilson and Miller, of course they will look more attractive because they are young up and comers that are about to get their shot as a lead dog. If they follow the same path as Mathews has recently, don't worry, their values will drop like a rock also. And Mathews is still going in that range cause in a league of 12 owners, there is always gonna be 1 or 2 guys who will take a chance on a guy like that, while in all likelyhood the other 10 owners wouldn't touch the guy. Very polarizing player. And my dumb-%@$ is considering trading pick 3 for him in a league. I must be nuts.

 

[Phenix]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Jackson, DeSean PHI WR

[*]Flying Ninja Monkeys gave up Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

That rare trade when both sides lose.

I'd be pumped to get DeSean Jackson for that? Guess I'm just higher on djax than you

A guy with a concussion history who has never had over 63 catches and last 1000 yard season 3 years ago, or a starting RB who just went over a 1000 yards this past year and has very low miles???Yup why did I give up DJax for so little. ADP is exactly the same according to MFL. Thats the problem with drive by critiques, you dont see everyting.

My remaining WRS, Glad I traded my #5 WR...

Britt, Kenny TEN WR

Gibson, Brandon STL WR

Jackson, Vincent TBB WR

Jennings, Greg GBP WR

Johnson, Andre HOU WR

Jones, Jacoby BAL WR

Jones, James GBP WR

Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR

Wright, Jarius MIN WR

For depth at RB...

Bolden, Brandon NEP RB

Bush, Michael CHI RB

Bush, Reggie MIA RB

Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

Ivory, Christopher NOS RB

Morris, Alfred WAS RB

Peterson, Adrian MIN RB

Sproles, Darren NOS RB

Turner, Michael FA* RB

I see you give a lot of weight to ADP on MFL. Sounds like that may have been used against you in this case to get you to cough up DJax for this price. Given this roster, I would have kept DJax for the upside in trade value down the road. His value can't get much lower than an ADP that matches BJGE. I don't own DJax in any league of mine, but I'd be looking to buy at this price.

No giving weight to ADP is the only way to judge if fair, you know, cuz the rest is just opinion. My depth chart, for reasoning sake...1) D. Thomas

2) A. Johnson

3) V. Jackson

4) G. Jennings

5) K. Britt

6) J. Jones

(DJax) He was my 7th WR, 6th at best, and I have depth after him in my eyes.

1) ADP

2) Morris

3) Sproles

4) R. Bush

5) (BJGE)

Ummm, everyone keeps talking about how great DJax is, what has he done to show he has a higher ceiling? What has BJGE done to show he will not be the guy in Cincy? Because ESPN says they might draft a RB? Am I the only one who is not new here and realize a lot of teams have 2 or 3 RBs? 63 catches is the most Djax has had in 5 years and averages 55 catches a year over his career. Man, how could I ever move this world beater for a starting RB coming off a 1000 yard season, especially when I needed depth at RB. Also, you would keep DJax because of Value? Hmmmm, his average points per game is even less then BJGE. Yes horrible move on my part.

It's not about MFL ADP, or even lasy years production... its about what was best for my team and what I have seen in trends, not just hoping that DJax can stay healthy and be productive. Oh, and is Vick any better of a passer? lol

But I'm sure no one will read this, then just come in and say, "You gave up on DJax for BJGE?" lol

 

[JPeso]

Ummm, everyone keeps talking about how great DJax is, what has he done to show he has a higher ceiling?

I don't think anyone is suggesting DeSean is great. As for ceilings, not advised to use past production only, but if we want to put known ceilings on paper, BJGE's highest year was 200 PPR in 2010. DeSean has topped this twice with 252 and 204.

 

[Donsmith753]

Some one is a little full of themselves huh?

Apologies, it did read that way, if only typing brought through facial expressions. Overdrafting RBs because of scarcity isn't the conclusion I would have made. I don't want to have to rely on that one owner to have to bail me out.

That wasnt really my point though. I wasn't saying you should overdraft RBs, I was making a note about the way a young RB holds his value. Mathews is pretty much the worse case scenario and still going as a top 20ish RB and commanding reasonable trade value. David Wilson and Lamar miller haven't really done too much yet and both have seen their value increase massively since they were drafted.

It's all a case by case basis anyway. Mathews has lost a ton of value, and rightfully so. Unlike Wilson and Miller, we have seen a prety big sample size of mathews, and it's much more bad than good. Mostly from constantly being hurt, but it's not like his perfomance when healthy has been "great", though he did have one nice year. Also, it's not like he is an elite talent. Now when it comes to Wilson and Miller, of course they will look more attractive because they are young up and comers that are about to get their shot as a lead dog. If they follow the same path as Mathews has recently, don't worry, their values will drop like a rock also. And Mathews is still going in that range cause in a league of 12 owners, there is always gonna be 1 or 2 guys who will take a chance on a guy like that, while in all likelyhood the other 10 owners wouldn't touch the guy. Very polarizing player. And my dumb-%@$ is considering trading pick 3 for him in a league. I must be nuts.

That's exactly my point though. A guy who was a top 3 pick years ago, has been generally terrible (regardless of the reasons) and he's still being traded for top 3-5 picks.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Some one is a little full of themselves huh?

Apologies, it did read that way, if only typing brought through facial expressions. Overdrafting RBs because of scarcity isn't the conclusion I would have made. I don't want to have to rely on that one owner to have to bail me out.

That wasnt really my point though. I wasn't saying you should overdraft RBs, I was making a note about the way a young RB holds his value. Mathews is pretty much the worse case scenario and still going as a top 20ish RB and commanding reasonable trade value. David Wilson and Lamar miller haven't really done too much yet and both have seen their value increase massively since they were drafted.

It's all a case by case basis anyway. Mathews has lost a ton of value, and rightfully so. Unlike Wilson and Miller, we have seen a prety big sample size of mathews, and it's much more bad than good. Mostly from constantly being hurt, but it's not like his perfomance when healthy has been "great", though he did have one nice year. Also, it's not like he is an elite talent. Now when it comes to Wilson and Miller, of course they will look more attractive because they are young up and comers that are about to get their shot as a lead dog. If they follow the same path as Mathews has recently, don't worry, their values will drop like a rock also. And Mathews is still going in that range cause in a league of 12 owners, there is always gonna be 1 or 2 guys who will take a chance on a guy like that, while in all likelyhood the other 10 owners wouldn't touch the guy. Very polarizing player. And my dumb-%@$ is considering trading pick 3 for him in a league. I must be nuts.

I think its the perfect storm for a player like mathews, #1 - this draft is considered weak. #2 - he still can be a bell cow back, granted busting both collarbones in a single NFL season is a reason for concern. I doubt if this draft had the hype that last years did I'd be able to flip him+ for 1.01. I was geting offers for him pretty much for every pick at the top of this draft

 

[tdmills]

Some one is a little full of themselves huh?

Apologies, it did read that way, if only typing brought through facial expressions. Overdrafting RBs because of scarcity isn't the conclusion I would have made. I don't want to have to rely on that one owner to have to bail me out.

That wasnt really my point though. I wasn't saying you should overdraft RBs, I was making a note about the way a young RB holds his value. Mathews is pretty much the worse case scenario and still going as a top 20ish RB and commanding reasonable trade value. David Wilson and Lamar miller haven't really done too much yet and both have seen their value increase massively since they were drafted.

It's all a case by case basis anyway. Mathews has lost a ton of value, and rightfully so. Unlike Wilson and Miller, we have seen a prety big sample size of mathews, and it's much more bad than good. Mostly from constantly being hurt, but it's not like his perfomance when healthy has been "great", though he did have one nice year. Also, it's not like he is an elite talent.

Now when it comes to Wilson and Miller, of course they will look more attractive because they are young up and comers that are about to get their shot as a lead dog. If they follow the same path as Mathews has recently, don't worry, their values will drop like a rock also.

And Mathews is still going in that range cause in a league of 12 owners, there is always gonna be 1 or 2 guys who will take a chance on a guy like that, while in all likelyhood the other 10 owners wouldn't touch the guy. Very polarizing player.

And my dumb-%@$ is considering trading pick 3 for him in a league. I must be nuts.

1) Rookie year Mathews averaged 4.3 YPC with 800 total yards. Second year 4.9 YPC with over 1500 total yards. Third year 3.8 YPC with almost 950 total yards. How soon people forget about 4.9 and 1500 yards. SD was a mess last year and he certainly had a late start due to the first collarbone. I'd rather deal with a collarbone issue than a torn knee.2) Lamar Miller isn't on the same level as Wilson/Mathews. The NFL passed on Miller multiple times in the NFL draft(round 4), Wilson/Mathews went round 1. The retaining value is much higher for a 1st round pick RB vs a 4th rounder.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

•SOGGY WAFFLES gave up Mathews, Ryan SDC RB;Shorts, Cecil JAC WR•Comatose Sleepers gave up Tolbert, Mike CAR RB;Floyd, Malcom SDC WR; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.01;Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.02; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Comatose Sleepers

It's impressive when I still see exits of Mathews at this clip

It just speaks to the value of drafting young RBs in startups. Things couldn't really have gone much worse for him and still he holds value.

I don't really come to that conclusion here. I think about how the sun gods have blessed me with Dez Bryant and CJ Spiller instead.

You've probably have been blessed with a Shonn Greene here and there too.

not shonn greene but a #### load of others, eddie royal and braylon edwards both did me dirty

I seem to remember offering a lot for Eddie Royal several years ago. Sometimes the best trades are the ones not made.

 

[Mimo]

I've tried moving 1.3 or 1.4 for Mathews with no luck. Mathews value maybe "low" in this thread but he still holds value with his owners. Some owners will say they "low" on him but when it's time to accept a deal for a top 5 rookie pick they remember his top 10 season, youth, potential upside then reject.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Some one is a little full of themselves huh?

Apologies, it did read that way, if only typing brought through facial expressions. Overdrafting RBs because of scarcity isn't the conclusion I would have made. I don't want to have to rely on that one owner to have to bail me out.

That wasnt really my point though. I wasn't saying you should overdraft RBs, I was making a note about the way a young RB holds his value. Mathews is pretty much the worse case scenario and still going as a top 20ish RB and commanding reasonable trade value. David Wilson and Lamar miller haven't really done too much yet and both have seen their value increase massively since they were drafted.

Well, yes and no. Without his top 10 2011, he doesn't hold the value he does. That was enough to intrigue owners into thinking last season was the anomoly and that he can bounce back.

 

[Concept Coop]

12-team, PPR. Start 1 RB, 1 WR, 3 FlexTeam A receives: Jordy Nelson (becomes by far their best WR)Team B receives: 1.10, 14 1st (Nelson was their WR4/5)

I prefer Jordy over the picks

Agree. I'd love to get Jordy for that. Especially if the 2014 1st is likely to be close to the 1.10 again. On teh other side, even if Jordy was my WR4/5, I'd hold rather than move him for this. I see a really big season in 2013, and his value will much higher if it happens.

 

[loose circuits]

1.09 and Mike Floyd for Colston

 

[bonesman]

16 team PPR: LaVon Brazill + 1.15 for 1.8

 

[Spin]

16 team PPR: LaVon Brazill + 1.15 for 1.8

I'd move back a few spots to take a chance on Brazil

 

[Concept Coop]

16 team PPR: LaVon Brazill + 1.15 for 1.8

A lot of this would depend on roster size. I'd likely take the pick upgrade, but especially so if the roster spot has much value.

 

[Concept Coop]

1.09 and Mike Floyd for Colston

Assuming a pretty standard PPR format, I take the Colston side, in a vacuum. Best player in the deal, open up a roster spot, etc. If I were rebuilding, however, this is the type of deal I would look to make in order to move Colston.

 

[matttyl]

10 team league

LeShoure and the #12 rookie pick for Decker

 

[bonesman]

16 team PPR: LaVon Brazill + 1.15 for 1.8

A lot of this would depend on roster size. I'd likely take the pick upgrade, but especially so if the roster spot has much value.

18-22 but unlimited in the offseason.It's also a contract league where Brazill has 4 years (out of 5 max) at a min salary.

 

[loose circuits]

1.09 and Mike Floyd for Colston

Assuming a pretty standard PPR format, I take the Colston side, in a vacuum. Best player in the deal, open up a roster spot, etc. If I were rebuilding, however, this is the type of deal I would look to make in order to move Colston.

12 team pprI wasn't involved

 

[Banemorth]

Wide variety of reactions on this one:

Demons gave up

Johnson, Stevie BUF WR

Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.03

Legionnaires gave up

Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.02

Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.01

Year 2013 Draft Pick 5.10

Year 2013 Draft Pick 6.10

12 Team Start 22 (11 O, 11 D) PPR

 

[lbouchard]

Wide variety of reactions on this oneemons gave up Johnson, Stevie BUF WRYear 2013 Draft Pick 2.03Legionnaires gave up Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.02Year 2013 Draft Pick 3.01Year 2013 Draft Pick 5.10Year 2013 Draft Pick 6.1012 Team Start 22 (11 O, 11 D) PPR

1.02 not that close IMO

 

[dewmass]

Just done this one, non PPR

Gave

J.Stewart

M.Tolbert

J.Gordon

2014 1st (likely late)

Got

Harvin

Haven't stolen him, in fact I've paid a lot, but I think its a good deal for me

 

[Ernol]

No giving weight to ADP is the only way to judge if fair, you know, cuz the rest is just opinion. My depth chart, for reasoning sake...

No one is saying the deal is not "fair". There is nothing unfair about it. We are all simply opining that Desean Jackson, as bad as he is, is still a better player to roster than BJGE.

Ummm, everyone keeps talking about how great DJax is, what has he done to show he has a higher ceiling? What has BJGE done to show he will not be the guy in Cincy? Because ESPN says they might draft a RB? Am I the only one who is not new here and realize a lot of teams have 2 or 3 RBs? 63 catches is the most Djax has had in 5 years and averages 55 catches a year over his career. Man, how could I ever move this world beater for a starting RB coming off a 1000 yard season, especially when I needed depth at RB. Also, you would keep DJax because of Value? Hmmmm, his average points per game is even less then BJGE. Yes horrible move on my part.

It's not about MFL ADP, or even lasy years production... its about what was best for my team and what I have seen in trends, not just hoping that DJax can stay healthy and be productive. Oh, and is Vick any better of a passer? lol

But I'm sure no one will read this, then just come in and say, "You gave up on DJax for BJGE?" lol

In a earlier post someone said if DJax was his #10 WR on the team he would not trade him for BJGE. Do some not realize 10 wrs dont help if you have no depth at RB? Fantasy trading 101 really.

Why some win titles, and others dont I guess.

Thanks for the opinions, but I believe some watch ESPN too much. You know, they have never been wrong ever, so i understand somes conviction.

Are you in my league, and were you privy to the other offers I have been sending out to see what i could get for him. Your opinion is fine and dandy, and false, as I did get all I could for him. i have been in negotiations for weeks trying to move him.

Owners disagree about players all the time. We are providing opinions. No need to get defensive and/or flustered by it.

 

[Concept Coop]

Just done this one, non PPRGaveJ.StewartM.TolbertJ.Gordon2014 1st (likely late)Got HarvinHaven't stolen him, in fact I've paid a lot, but I think its a good deal for me

Solid deal for you, especially if your team is competing and have a solid roster. There is a lot of potential for the other side to come out on top, in a standard league, if Gordon pans out and Stewart has even one RB1 season in him. But, I'd happily take the sure thing, get the biggest part in the deal, and open up my roster some.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

No giving weight to ADP is the only way to judge if fair, you know, cuz the rest is just opinion. My depth chart, for reasoning sake...

No one is saying the deal is not "fair". There is nothing unfair about it. We are all simply opining that Desean Jackson, as bad as he is, is still a better player to roster than BJGE.

Ummm, everyone keeps talking about how great DJax is, what has he done to show he has a higher ceiling? What has BJGE done to show he will not be the guy in Cincy? Because ESPN says they might draft a RB? Am I the only one who is not new here and realize a lot of teams have 2 or 3 RBs? 63 catches is the most Djax has had in 5 years and averages 55 catches a year over his career. Man, how could I ever move this world beater for a starting RB coming off a 1000 yard season, especially when I needed depth at RB. Also, you would keep DJax because of Value? Hmmmm, his average points per game is even less then BJGE. Yes horrible move on my part.

It's not about MFL ADP, or even lasy years production... its about what was best for my team and what I have seen in trends, not just hoping that DJax can stay healthy and be productive. Oh, and is Vick any better of a passer? lol

But I'm sure no one will read this, then just come in and say, "You gave up on DJax for BJGE?" lol

In a earlier post someone said if DJax was his #10 WR on the team he would not trade him for BJGE. Do some not realize 10 wrs dont help if you have no depth at RB? Fantasy trading 101 really.

Why some win titles, and others dont I guess.

Thanks for the opinions, but I believe some watch ESPN too much. You know, they have never been wrong ever, so i understand somes conviction.

Are you in my league, and were you privy to the other offers I have been sending out to see what i could get for him. Your opinion is fine and dandy, and false, as I did get all I could for him. i have been in negotiations for weeks trying to move him.

Owners disagree about players all the time. We are providing opinions on specific No need to get defensive and/or flustered by it.

LOL

 

[Ernol]

Owners disagree about players all the time. We are providing opinions on specific No need to get defensive and/or flustered by it.

LOL

Doh! Got distracted while editing and posted without finishing the sentence

 

[One More Rep]

1.09 and Mike Floyd for Colston

I know Colston still produces but I prefer the pick and Floyd

 

[One More Rep]

Just done this one, non PPRGaveJ.StewartM.TolbertJ.Gordon2014 1st (likely late)Got HarvinHaven't stolen him, in fact I've paid a lot, but I think its a good deal for me

Have to go with Harvin, even more so right now. I do like Gordon but to get Harvin not a big deal

 

[loose circuits]

1.09 and Mike Floyd for Colston

I know Colston still produces but I prefer the pick and Floyd

yep, I'm not a huge fan of giving up very good prospects and 1st round picks for 29 year old WR's, but I realize I have a different philosophy then some