2013 Off Season Dynasty Trade Thread (for completed trades) (3 Viewers)

[BallzDeep]

Hernandez trade just happened. I'm not involved.

12 team dynasty.

Aaron Hernandez

Ryan Broyles

FOR

BenJarvus Green Ellis

Jared Cook

Cecil Shorts

'14 3rd round pick

'14 4th round pick

In my opinion this would have been near acceptable value prior to the news breaking. So I'd imagine the guy dealing Hernandez is thrilled.

 

[BlackMamba24]

Hernandez trade just happened. I'm not involved.

12 team dynasty.

Aaron Hernandez

Ryan Broyles

FOR

BenJarvus Green Ellis

Jared Cook

Cecil Shorts

'14 3rd round pick

'14 4th round pick

In my opinion this would have been near acceptable value prior to the news breaking. So I'd imagine the guy dealing Hernandez is thrilled.

Not sure I would accept that prior to the news breaking.

Shorts is the only one on that side that I would like (although maybe cook turns into something with his new team), but even then I'm not very excited about CSIII. I'm still not sold on Shorts though.

 

[BallzDeep]

I did say "near acceptable value" That doesnt mean I would have accepted either. I am more high on Cook this year than some though.

Hernandez trade just happened. I'm not involved.

12 team dynasty.

Aaron Hernandez

Ryan Broyles

FOR

BenJarvus Green Ellis

Jared Cook

Cecil Shorts

'14 3rd round pick

'14 4th round pick

In my opinion this would have been near acceptable value prior to the news breaking. So I'd imagine the guy dealing Hernandez is thrilled.

Not sure I would accept that prior to the news breaking.

Shorts is the only one on that side that I would like (although maybe cook turns into something with his new team), but even then I'm not very excited about CSIII. I'm still not sold on Shorts though.

 

[ghostguy123]

I did say "near acceptable value" That doesnt mean I would have accepted either. I am more high on Cook this year than some though.

Hernandez trade just happened. I'm not involved.

12 team dynasty.

Aaron Hernandez

Ryan Broyles

FOR

BenJarvus Green Ellis

Jared Cook

Cecil Shorts

'14 3rd round pick

'14 4th round pick

In my opinion this would have been near acceptable value prior to the news breaking. So I'd imagine the guy dealing Hernandez is thrilled.

Not sure I would accept that prior to the news breaking.

Shorts is the only one on that side that I would like (although maybe cook turns into something with his new team), but even then I'm not very excited about CSIII. I'm still not sold on Shorts though.

That is definitely "near acceptable". I wouldnt do it, but it's not horrible. At the moment it's "ok"

 

[kineticnfl]

I just got Ryan Broyles for a 3rd next year.

16 team PPR 17 man rosters. 12 keepers.

I got a bit of a shock when that was all he asked. Maybe I am over valuing Broyles?

 

[Gawain]

I just got Ryan Broyles for a 3rd next year.

16 team PPR 17 man rosters. 12 keepers.

I got a bit of a shock when that was all he asked. Maybe I am over valuing Broyles?

Only 12 keepers. It's a real possibility he wasn't keeping Broyles and was willing to take anything for him.

 

[doubletrouble]

Team A: Colin kap, Pierre Thomas, mark Ingram and Michael Crabtree

For

Team B: Aaron Rodgers, lance Moore and Brian quick

Thoughts?

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[bmsarvis]

12 team PPR; 1-2-3-1-1flex

Doug Martin, Pierre Garcon, and Michael Floyd

for

Demaryius Thomas, Alfred Morris, and Leonard Hankerson

DT n alf by whole lot for me.

 

[finito]

12 team PPR; 1-2-3-1-1flex

Doug Martin, Pierre Garcon, and Michael Floyd

for

Demaryius Thomas, Alfred Morris, and Leonard Hankerson

DT n alf by whole lot for me.

I think it's relatively even but I'm not a huge Morris guy in ppr.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Team A: Colin kap, Pierre Thomas, mark Ingram and Michael Crabtree

For

Team B: Aaron Rodgers, lance Moore and Brian quick

Thoughts?

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Seems like a cheap upgrade to get the best FF QB in football.

 

[King of the Jungle]

12 team PPR; 1-2-3-1-1flex

Doug Martin, Pierre Garcon, and Michael Floyd

for

Demaryius Thomas, Alfred Morris, and Leonard Hankerson

DT n alf by whole lot for me.

I think it's relatively even but I'm not a huge Morris guy in ppr.

I think it is a pretty even deal as well, although I am higher on Floyd than most. If a gun goes to my head I would probably go with the Martin side but that is just because I think Floyd can hit Thomas production down the road.

 

[cstu]

I did say "near acceptable value" That doesnt mean I would have accepted either. I am more high on Cook this year than some though.

Hernandez trade just happened. I'm not involved.

12 team dynasty.

Aaron Hernandez

Ryan Broyles

FOR

BenJarvus Green Ellis

Jared Cook

Cecil Shorts

'14 3rd round pick

'14 4th round pick

In my opinion this would have been near acceptable value prior to the news breaking. So I'd imagine the guy dealing Hernandez is thrilled.

Not sure I would accept that prior to the news breaking.

Shorts is the only one on that side that I would like (although maybe cook turns into something with his new team), but even then I'm not very excited about CSIII. I'm still not sold on Shorts though.

That is definitely "near acceptable". I wouldnt do it, but it's not horrible. At the moment it's "ok"

This is a really bad situation for Hernandez - bad enough that I have him ranked just ahead of Cook at the moment.

 

[GoodLloydHaveMercy]

12 team dynasty league... Non-PPR
10 yds/pt rushing & receiving... 30 yds/pt returning
QB RB RB WR WR WR TE K DEF

Team A gives...
Harvin
Bilal Powell


&


Team B gives...
Jermichael Finley
Marques Colston
Seattle DEF
2.8 rookie pick (2013)



I am Team A and my only starting caliber TE is currently Hernandez... stable of WRs is solid with Demaryius Thomas, Julio Jones, Josh Gordon... maybe I'm panicking a bit but Seattle DEF in our league was the #2 defense last yr. Behind Colston I have Nick Toon... Golden Tate & Jacoby Ford will also provide me with at least a little depth with returner upside (although cribbs will probably hold that role in Oakland and Harvin will do some of that in Seattle)

 

[msudaisy26]

Team A: Colin kap, Pierre Thomas, mark Ingram and Michael Crabtree

For

Team B: Aaron Rodgers, lance Moore and Brian quick

Thoughts?

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Horrible

 

[cdubz]

Team A: Colin kap, Pierre Thomas, mark Ingram and Michael Crabtree

For

Team B: Aaron Rodgers, lance Moore and Brian quick

Thoughts?

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Enough uncertainty around multiple parts of this trade, that I don't think I have strong feelings either way. Both teams could be helping themselves here.

 

[5Rings]

Zealot non-ppr dynasty

A gets : Frank Gore (playoff team)

B gets: Isaiah Pead (also a playoff team)

 

[kutta]

Team A: Colin kap, Pierre Thomas, mark Ingram and Michael Crabtree

For

Team B: Aaron Rodgers, lance Moore and Brian quick

Thoughts?

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Horrible

For whom? I kind of like the Kap/Crabtree side. If Crabtree comes back healthy, this could be a great trade for the Kap/Crabtree side.

 

[wakelawyer]

12 Team PPR, 1.25 PPR for TEs. Start 1/1/2/1 with 2 flex (RB/WR/TE).

Team A trades Hernandez

to

Team B for Gonzo and a 2014 3rd round pick.

Team A now has Gonzo, Celek, Olsen

Team B now has Vernon Davis and Hernandez

 

[cstu]

12 Team PPR, 1.25 PPR for TEs. Start 1/1/2/1 with 2 flex (RB/WR/TE).

Team A trades Hernandez

to

Team B for Gonzo and a 2014 3rd round pick.

Team A now has Gonzo, Celek, Olsen

Team B now has Vernon Davis and Hernandez

With Olsen I don't think it was necessary to do this and think he could have got someone better than Gonzo.

 

[msudaisy26]

Team A: Colin kap, Pierre Thomas, mark Ingram and Michael Crabtree

For

Team B: Aaron Rodgers, lance Moore and Brian quick

Thoughts?

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Horrible

For whom? I kind of like the Kap/Crabtree side. If Crabtree comes back healthy, this could be a great trade for the Kap/Crabtree side.

So you are going to trade the best quarterback in dynasty, for a top 10 quarterback and his receiver that MIGHT come back to be what he was or one season and a couple of underwhelming running backs? That doesn't even include the throw ins

 

[Andrew74]

12 team dynasty league... Non-PPR

10 yds/pt rushing & receiving... 30 yds/pt returning

QB RB RB WR WR WR TE K DEF

Team A gives...

Harvin

Bilal Powell

&

Team B gives...

Jermichael Finley

Marques Colston

Seattle DEF

2.8 rookie pick (2013)

I am Team A and my only starting caliber TE is currently Hernandez... stable of WRs is solid with Demaryius Thomas, Julio Jones, Josh Gordon... maybe I'm panicking a bit but Seattle DEF in our league was the #2 defense last yr. Behind Colston I have Nick Toon... Golden Tate & Jacoby Ford will also provide me with at least a little depth with returner upside (although cribbs will probably hold that role in Oakland and Harvin will do some of that in Seattle)

Seems like you gave up on Harvin for peanuts unless DEF can have huge scoring differentials.

 

[MDSkinner]

Team A: Colin kap, Pierre Thomas, mark Ingram and Michael Crabtree

For

Team B: Aaron Rodgers, lance Moore and Brian quick

Thoughts?

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Horrible

For whom? I kind of like the Kap/Crabtree side. If Crabtree comes back healthy, this could be a great trade for the Kap/Crabtree side.

So you are going to trade the best quarterback in dynasty, for a top 10 quarterback and his receiver that MIGHT come back to be what he was or one season and a couple of underwhelming running backs? That doesn't even include the throw ins

JMO, but I could see this for people who are high on Kap (which I am not). If you are a believer and think he could end up being a top 5 QB going forward then this is a good trade for that side. And I have heard a lot of people who see it that way. If you see it the way that you are seeing it (and I agree) where he is a top 10 QB, probably not a good deal.

 

[kutta]

Team A: Colin kap, Pierre Thomas, mark Ingram and Michael Crabtree

For

Team B: Aaron Rodgers, lance Moore and Brian quick

Thoughts?

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Horrible

For whom? I kind of like the Kap/Crabtree side. If Crabtree comes back healthy, this could be a great trade for the Kap/Crabtree side.

So you are going to trade the best quarterback in dynasty, for a top 10 quarterback and his receiver that MIGHT come back to be what he was or one season and a couple of underwhelming running backs? That doesn't even include the throw ins

Well, I think Crabtree will come back just fine and be a top 5-10 WR. And I think Kap is top 5-10 QB. Both are young with lots of good years ahead of them. So yes, I would seriously consider this trade.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

10 team start 2 TE league

Pitta

Miles Austin

for

Vincent Brown

Travis Kelce

 

[msudaisy26]

Team A: Colin kap, Pierre Thomas, mark Ingram and Michael Crabtree

For

Team B: Aaron Rodgers, lance Moore and Brian quick

Thoughts?

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Horrible

For whom? I kind of like the Kap/Crabtree side. If Crabtree comes back healthy, this could be a great trade for the Kap/Crabtree side.

So you are going to trade the best quarterback in dynasty, for a top 10 quarterback and his receiver that MIGHT come back to be what he was or one season and a couple of underwhelming running backs? That doesn't even include the throw ins

Well, I think Crabtree will come back just fine and be a top 5-10 WR. And I think Kap is top 5-10 QB. Both are young with lots of good years ahead of them. So yes, I would seriously consider this trade.

We can agree to disagree about Kap, but Crabtree is miles away from top 5 and not that close to top 10 dynasty wise. Off the top of my head these guys are ahead of him by a lot Calvin, Julio, Green, Harvin, Dez, Marshall, and DT. These guys are ahead of him because of age or better track record Cruz, Blackmon, Fitzgerald, Cobb.

 

[kutta]

Team A: Colin kap, Pierre Thomas, mark Ingram and Michael Crabtree

For

Team B: Aaron Rodgers, lance Moore and Brian quick

Thoughts?

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Horrible

For whom? I kind of like the Kap/Crabtree side. If Crabtree comes back healthy, this could be a great trade for the Kap/Crabtree side.

So you are going to trade the best quarterback in dynasty, for a top 10 quarterback and his receiver that MIGHT come back to be what he was or one season and a couple of underwhelming running backs? That doesn't even include the throw ins

Well, I think Crabtree will come back just fine and be a top 5-10 WR. And I think Kap is top 5-10 QB. Both are young with lots of good years ahead of them. So yes, I would seriously consider this trade.

We can agree to disagree about Kap, but Crabtree is miles away from top 5 and not that close to top 10 dynasty wise. Off the top of my head these guys are ahead of him by a lot Calvin, Julio, Green, Harvin, Dez, Marshall, and DT. These guys are ahead of him because of age or better track record Cruz, Blackmon, Fitzgerald, Cobb.

You listed 11 guys. If he's "not that close to top 10 dynasty wise" you are going to have to list another 11. Regarding your list, I agree with the first set (maybe not Harvin, I'm just not as high on him as everyone else is), but disagree entirely with your second set. I would take Crabtree of Blackmon in a second, and I would be hard pressed to take any of the other guys over him too - maybe Cruz or Cobb post Crabtree injury, but no way I take those guys a month ago for him.

I'll admit I am higher on Crabtree than most others, but you are way off saying he is not close to the top 10 dynasty wise.

I will put the caveat on this post that I am assuming he comes back totally healthy. I admit there is some risk to that, but I believe that risk is small.

 

[GoodLloydHaveMercy]

12 team dynasty league... Non-PPR

10 yds/pt rushing & receiving... 30 yds/pt returning

QB RB RB WR WR WR TE K DEF

Team A gives...

Harvin

Bilal Powell

&

Team B gives...

Jermichael Finley

Marques Colston

Seattle DEF

2.8 rookie pick (2013)

I am Team A and my only starting caliber TE is currently Hernandez... stable of WRs is solid with Demaryius Thomas, Julio Jones, Josh Gordon... maybe I'm panicking a bit but Seattle DEF in our league was the #2 defense last yr. Behind Colston I have Nick Toon... Golden Tate & Jacoby Ford will also provide me with at least a little depth with returner upside (although cribbs will probably hold that role in Oakland and Harvin will do some of that in Seattle)

Seems like you gave up on Harvin for peanuts unless DEF can have huge scoring differentials.

Yes defense in this league puts up pretty decent differentials but even with that I think I prolly undersold a little bit... Seattle was the second best scoring defense in this league last yr and just for reference New England was #4

 

[Rockchild]

14 team PPR, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-2 TE, 1 K, 1 D (9 starters)

Arian Foster, Antonio Brown, Brandon Pettigrew

for

Alfred Morris, Dez Bryant

 

[King of the Jungle]

14 team PPR, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-2 TE, 1 K, 1 D (9 starters)

Arian Foster, Antonio Brown, Brandon Pettigrew

for

Alfred Morris, Dez Bryant

LOVE getting Dez & Morris for that.

 

[bmsarvis]

12 team PPR; 1-2-3-1-1flex

Doug Martin, Pierre Garcon, and Michael Floyd

for

Demaryius Thomas, Alfred Morris, and Leonard Hankerson

DT n alf by whole lot for me.

I think it's relatively even but I'm not a huge Morris guy in ppr.

I think it is a pretty even deal as well, although I am higher on Floyd than most. If a gun goes to my head I would probably go with the Martin side but that is just because I think Floyd can hit Thomas production down the road.

I'd probly rank d.t. right at five among wr. I love garcon but he's glass. I think alf has a long highly productive career and wouldn't put him behind doug martin in my rankings. I know i'll get torched on that one. But its just my take. I truly believed floyd was gonna be a good wr but not anymore. In this nfl i think hell hover around wr3 value for the foreseeable future. 2 to 3 good games from doug martin with a lot of bad defense and horrible tackling doesnt make me think he the next ray rice.much of his other games he had rec to boost his points up. N he didnt do much with em iirc. Just stating my point of view here. To me doug martin is a sell high.

 

[bmsarvis]

14 team PPR, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-2 TE, 1 K, 1 D (9 starters)

Arian Foster, Antonio Brown, Brandon Pettigrew

for

Alfred Morris, Dez Bryant

LOVE getting Dez & Morris for that.

Ditto

 

[RustyFA4]

I traded my 2014 1st rounder, the team has Bree's,t rich, d Thomas, aj green etc, and a 2014 3rd for Chris Ivory and a 2015 2nd rounder. I really am looking for one last decent starter and hope my pick is late and Ivory puts up Shonn Greene numbers.

Thoughts on this? I hate trading 1sts but think one more passable starter may get me over the hump.

 

[JPeso]

Guy in one of my leagues asked me for Patterson for his Hernandez, only to deal Hernandez for Broyles/3rd a few minutes later to one lucky soul.

 

[JPeso]

14 team PPR, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-2 TE, 1 K, 1 D (9 starters)

Arian Foster, Antonio Brown, Brandon Pettigrew

for

Alfred Morris, Dez Bryant

LOVE getting Dez & Morris for that.

Ditto

Love getting Dez alone for that.

 

[msudaisy26]

Team A: Colin kap, Pierre Thomas, mark Ingram and Michael Crabtree

For

Team B: Aaron Rodgers, lance Moore and Brian quick

Thoughts?

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Thanks!

Horrible

For whom? I kind of like the Kap/Crabtree side. If Crabtree comes back healthy, this could be a great trade for the Kap/Crabtree side.

So you are going to trade the best quarterback in dynasty, for a top 10 quarterback and his receiver that MIGHT come back to be what he was or one season and a couple of underwhelming running backs? That doesn't even include the throw ins

Well, I think Crabtree will come back just fine and be a top 5-10 WR. And I think Kap is top 5-10 QB. Both are young with lots of good years ahead of them. So yes, I would seriously consider this trade.

We can agree to disagree about Kap, but Crabtree is miles away from top 5 and not that close to top 10 dynasty wise. Off the top of my head these guys are ahead of him by a lot Calvin, Julio, Green, Harvin, Dez, Marshall, and DT. These guys are ahead of him because of age or better track record Cruz, Blackmon, Fitzgerald, Cobb.

You listed 11 guys. If he's "not that close to top 10 dynasty wise" you are going to have to list another 11. Regarding your list, I agree with the first set (maybe not Harvin, I'm just not as high on him as everyone else is), but disagree entirely with your second set. I would take Crabtree of Blackmon in a second, and I would be hard pressed to take any of the other guys over him too - maybe Cruz or Cobb post Crabtree injury, but no way I take those guys a month ago for him.I'll admit I am higher on Crabtree than most others, but you are way off saying he is not close to the top 10 dynasty wise.

I will put the caveat on this post that I am assuming he comes back totally healthy. I admit there is some risk to that, but I believe that risk is small.

Those were the first 11 off the top of my head. I am on my phone and it is hard to look up and type. I would like to know why you would want Crabtree even pre injury over any of those guys.

Cobb is younger than Crabtree in a better offense and has the same number of top 20 finishes.

Harvin has better finishes fantasy wise is younger, I think I am on my phone and their offense is about equal.

Blackmon is just as talented and it didn't take him 3 years to start producing. Alex Smith might have been bad when Crabtree first got there but Blackmon was doing it with Gabbert and Henne.

Cruz has done it for 2 years in a row and has a more established quarterback.

 

[kutta]

Team A: Colin kap, Pierre Thomas, mark Ingram and Michael Crabtree

For

Team B: Aaron Rodgers, lance Moore and Brian quick

Thoughts?

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Horrible

For whom? I kind of like the Kap/Crabtree side. If Crabtree comes back healthy, this could be a great trade for the Kap/Crabtree side.

So you are going to trade the best quarterback in dynasty, for a top 10 quarterback and his receiver that MIGHT come back to be what he was or one season and a couple of underwhelming running backs? That doesn't even include the throw ins

Well, I think Crabtree will come back just fine and be a top 5-10 WR. And I think Kap is top 5-10 QB. Both are young with lots of good years ahead of them. So yes, I would seriously consider this trade.

We can agree to disagree about Kap, but Crabtree is miles away from top 5 and not that close to top 10 dynasty wise. Off the top of my head these guys are ahead of him by a lot Calvin, Julio, Green, Harvin, Dez, Marshall, and DT. These guys are ahead of him because of age or better track record Cruz, Blackmon, Fitzgerald, Cobb.

You listed 11 guys. If he's "not that close to top 10 dynasty wise" you are going to have to list another 11. Regarding your list, I agree with the first set (maybe not Harvin, I'm just not as high on him as everyone else is), but disagree entirely with your second set. I would take Crabtree of Blackmon in a second, and I would be hard pressed to take any of the other guys over him too - maybe Cruz or Cobb post Crabtree injury, but no way I take those guys a month ago for him.I'll admit I am higher on Crabtree than most others, but you are way off saying he is not close to the top 10 dynasty wise.

I will put the caveat on this post that I am assuming he comes back totally healthy. I admit there is some risk to that, but I believe that risk is small.

Those were the first 11 off the top of my head. I am on my phone and it is hard to look up and type. I would like to know why you would want Crabtree even pre injury over any of those guys.

Cobb is younger than Crabtree in a better offense and has the same number of top 20 finishes.

Harvin has better finishes fantasy wise is younger, I think I am on my phone and their offense is about equal.

Blackmon is just as talented and it didn't take him 3 years to start producing. Alex Smith might have been bad when Crabtree first got there but Blackmon was doing it with Gabbert and Henne.

Cruz has done it for 2 years in a row and has a more established quarterback.

From week 10-17 last year (when Kap took over), Crabtree was the #6 WR in my PPR league behind Calvin, Dez, Andre, Marshall, and DT. He was six points away from being in 4th. In three playoff games he averaged 7/95/1. That's pretty darn impressive. He's only 25 years old and finally found a QB with whom he clicks on a really high level. I see only upside with them working together more and more.

So yes, I see all kinds of potential with him and Kap in the future. With Gore getting older, I don't see SF continuing to pound the rock as much in the next couple years. If they can lock Crabtree up long term, I think him and Kap are going to put up some really good numbers together.

 

[msudaisy26]

Team A: Colin kap, Pierre Thomas, mark Ingram and Michael Crabtree

For

Team B: Aaron Rodgers, lance Moore and Brian quick

Thoughts?

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Horrible

For whom? I kind of like the Kap/Crabtree side. If Crabtree comes back healthy, this could be a great trade for the Kap/Crabtree side.

So you are going to trade the best quarterback in dynasty, for a top 10 quarterback and his receiver that MIGHT come back to be what he was or one season and a couple of underwhelming running backs? That doesn't even include the throw ins

Well, I think Crabtree will come back just fine and be a top 5-10 WR. And I think Kap is top 5-10 QB. Both are young with lots of good years ahead of them. So yes, I would seriously consider this trade.

We can agree to disagree about Kap, but Crabtree is miles away from top 5 and not that close to top 10 dynasty wise. Off the top of my head these guys are ahead of him by a lot Calvin, Julio, Green, Harvin, Dez, Marshall, and DT. These guys are ahead of him because of age or better track record Cruz, Blackmon, Fitzgerald, Cobb.

You listed 11 guys. If he's "not that close to top 10 dynasty wise" you are going to have to list another 11. Regarding your list, I agree with the first set (maybe not Harvin, I'm just not as high on him as everyone else is), but disagree entirely with your second set. I would take Crabtree of Blackmon in a second, and I would be hard pressed to take any of the other guys over him too - maybe Cruz or Cobb post Crabtree injury, but no way I take those guys a month ago for him.I'll admit I am higher on Crabtree than most others, but you are way off saying he is not close to the top 10 dynasty wise.

I will put the caveat on this post that I am assuming he comes back totally healthy. I admit there is some risk to that, but I believe that risk is small.

Those were the first 11 off the top of my head. I am on my phone and it is hard to look up and type. I would like to know why you would want Crabtree even pre injury over any of those guys.Cobb is younger than Crabtree in a better offense and has the same number of top 20 finishes.

Harvin has better finishes fantasy wise is younger, I think I am on my phone and their offense is about equal.

Blackmon is just as talented and it didn't take him 3 years to start producing. Alex Smith might have been bad when Crabtree first got there but Blackmon was doing it with Gabbert and Henne.

Cruz has done it for 2 years in a row and has a more established quarterback.

From week 10-17 last year (when Kap took over), Crabtree was the #6 WR in my PPR league behind Calvin, Dez, Andre, Marshall, and DT. He was six points away from being in 4th. In three playoff games he averaged 7/95/1. That's pretty darn impressive. He's only 25 years old and finally found a QB with whom he clicks on a really high level. I see only upside with them working together more and more. So yes, I see all kinds of potential with him and Kap in the future. With Gore getting older, I don't see SF continuing to pound the rock as much in the next couple years. If they can lock Crabtree up long term, I think him and Kap are going to put up some really good numbers together.

Receivers have hot streaks all the time, remember when Calvin had 11 touchdowns in 8 games in 2012? He has had 11 touchdowns in the last 24. Why? Because defenses prepare different. Gore being near the end hurts too, if Hunter or any of the other backs can't carry the load then it is easier for the safety to stay back.

Lets also not forget that as Kapernick develops he won't lock on to one guy as much, there is also a chance that he doesn't develop.

Lastly lets not forget the injury that will most likely make him miss a full year and then another year playing at less then 100 percent. Achilles are a different beast compared to ACLS.

 

[rct]

Guy in one of my leagues asked me for Patterson for his Hernandez, only to deal Hernandez for Broyles/3rd a few minutes later to one lucky soul.

The one lucky soul was the guy who dealt Hernandez. Got something for him before news broke re probable arrest for obstruction of justice (and that is probably only the beginning of the charges).

 

[5Rings]

Zealot non-ppr dynasty

A gets : Frank Gore (playoff team)

B gets: Isaiah Pead (also a playoff team)

Any comments?

I'm seeing the Gore guy getting Frank for one more year in a playoff push. On the other hand, the guy getting Pead is gambling that he wins or gets a significant enough share of the RB job in StL that he is startable. Pead has lots of bad press this offseason, but I like him and see him as a potential buy low--though I don't think he is being "bought low" here.

 

[Ernol]

Receivers have hot streaks all the time, remember when Calvin had 11 touchdowns in 8 games in 2012? He has had 11 touchdowns in the last 24. Why? Because defenses prepare different.Gore being near the end hurts too, if Hunter or any of the other backs can't carry the load then it is easier for the safety to stay back.

Lets also not forget that as Kapernick develops he won't lock on to one guy as much, there is also a chance that he doesn't develop.

Lastly lets not forget the injury that will most likely make him miss a full year and then another year playing at less then 100 percent. Achilles are a different beast compared to ACLS.

Calvin is probably not the best choice to downgrade another receiver for a mere hot streak. If I recall correctly, Calvin had one of the best seasons ever during your so-called defensive adjustment period.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Zealot non-ppr dynasty

A gets : Frank Gore (playoff team)

B gets: Isaiah Pead (also a playoff team)

Any comments?

I'm seeing the Gore guy getting Frank for one more year in a playoff push. On the other hand, the guy getting Pead is gambling that he wins or gets a significant enough share of the RB job in StL that he is startable. Pead has lots of bad press this offseason, but I like him and see him as a potential buy low--though I don't think he is being "bought low" here.

Compared to most I like Pead. If I had the depth to spare Gore, I'd easily take this gamble. Paid a price but thinking Y+1 you're not losing much even if Pead busts. Pead's expected value next year is much higher even with the risk.

 

[kutta]

Team A: Colin kap, Pierre Thomas, mark Ingram and Michael Crabtree

For

Team B: Aaron Rodgers, lance Moore and Brian quick

Thoughts?

League setting in my signature...not involved

Thanks!

Horrible

For whom? I kind of like the Kap/Crabtree side. If Crabtree comes back healthy, this could be a great trade for the Kap/Crabtree side.

So you are going to trade the best quarterback in dynasty, for a top 10 quarterback and his receiver that MIGHT come back to be what he was or one season and a couple of underwhelming running backs? That doesn't even include the throw ins

Well, I think Crabtree will come back just fine and be a top 5-10 WR. And I think Kap is top 5-10 QB. Both are young with lots of good years ahead of them. So yes, I would seriously consider this trade.

We can agree to disagree about Kap, but Crabtree is miles away from top 5 and not that close to top 10 dynasty wise. Off the top of my head these guys are ahead of him by a lot Calvin, Julio, Green, Harvin, Dez, Marshall, and DT. These guys are ahead of him because of age or better track record Cruz, Blackmon, Fitzgerald, Cobb.

You listed 11 guys. If he's "not that close to top 10 dynasty wise" you are going to have to list another 11. Regarding your list, I agree with the first set (maybe not Harvin, I'm just not as high on him as everyone else is), but disagree entirely with your second set. I would take Crabtree of Blackmon in a second, and I would be hard pressed to take any of the other guys over him too - maybe Cruz or Cobb post Crabtree injury, but no way I take those guys a month ago for him.I'll admit I am higher on Crabtree than most others, but you are way off saying he is not close to the top 10 dynasty wise.

I will put the caveat on this post that I am assuming he comes back totally healthy. I admit there is some risk to that, but I believe that risk is small.

Those were the first 11 off the top of my head. I am on my phone and it is hard to look up and type. I would like to know why you would want Crabtree even pre injury over any of those guys.Cobb is younger than Crabtree in a better offense and has the same number of top 20 finishes.

Harvin has better finishes fantasy wise is younger, I think I am on my phone and their offense is about equal.

Blackmon is just as talented and it didn't take him 3 years to start producing. Alex Smith might have been bad when Crabtree first got there but Blackmon was doing it with Gabbert and Henne.

Cruz has done it for 2 years in a row and has a more established quarterback.

From week 10-17 last year (when Kap took over), Crabtree was the #6 WR in my PPR league behind Calvin, Dez, Andre, Marshall, and DT. He was six points away from being in 4th. In three playoff games he averaged 7/95/1. That's pretty darn impressive. He's only 25 years old and finally found a QB with whom he clicks on a really high level. I see only upside with them working together more and more. So yes, I see all kinds of potential with him and Kap in the future. With Gore getting older, I don't see SF continuing to pound the rock as much in the next couple years. If they can lock Crabtree up long term, I think him and Kap are going to put up some really good numbers together.

Receivers have hot streaks all the time, remember when Calvin had 11 touchdowns in 8 games in 2012? He has had 11 touchdowns in the last 24. Why? Because defenses prepare different.Gore being near the end hurts too, if Hunter or any of the other backs can't carry the load then it is easier for the safety to stay back.

Lets also not forget that as Kapernick develops he won't lock on to one guy as much, there is also a chance that he doesn't develop.

Lastly lets not forget the injury that will most likely make him miss a full year and then another year playing at less then 100 percent. Achilles are a different beast compared to ACLS.

We can agree to disagree. I don't want to hijack the thread. I think Crabtree is going to be really really good. You don't. That's cool.

 

[Banemorth]

I Give:

Hernandez

I Get:

2014 1st (mid-late)

 

[jmo87usc]

Guy in one of my leagues asked me for Patterson for his Hernandez, only to deal Hernandez for Broyles/3rd a few minutes later to one lucky soul.

I'm all for guys having their own opinion of players, but there is no way he can justify thinking the value he got is even close to what he was asking you. I hate when this stuff happens. It makes me want to just start sending random S*it offers out and hoping someone bites.

Not to say what he ended up with isn't better than being stuck with Hernandez, but he could have done better if he tried.

 

[msudaisy26]

Receivers have hot streaks all the time, remember when Calvin had 11 touchdowns in 8 games in 2012? He has had 11 touchdowns in the last 24. Why? Because defenses prepare different.

Gore being near the end hurts too, if Hunter or any of the other backs can't carry the load then it is easier for the safety to stay back.

Lets also not forget that as Kapernick develops he won't lock on to one guy as much, there is also a chance that he doesn't develop.

Lastly lets not forget the injury that will most likely make him miss a full year and then another year playing at less then 100 percent. Achilles are a different beast compared to ACLS.

Calvin is probably not the best choice to downgrade another receiver for a mere hot streak. If I recall correctly, Calvin had one of the best seasons ever during your so-called defensive adjustment period.

Yards wise yes but that is because of how bad they were and how much they threw the ball, you could easily argue that a lot of receivers could put up those numbers with that many targets. Defenses did adjust to him catching the deep pass from a year ago and also in the redzone. He did also drop a lot of passes.

 

[ghostguy123]

12 team PPR dynasty, 1.5 PPR for TE (FFPC league)

Lamar Miller

for

Ridley

Pitta

 

[Evil G]

12 team PPR dynasty, 1.5 PPR for TE (FFPC league)

Lamar Miller

for

Ridley

Pitta

is it just me, or has the hype train for Lamar officially run off the track, and into the sky, heading towards escape velocity?

The above trade presumes he's an upgrade to Ridley, at the cost of a TE1 in 1.5 PPR. Wow

 

[NCPanthersFan]

Anyone aware of a Dynasty Trade Value chart anywhere - if such a thing exists? Been about 3 years since I have drafted a full dynasty team. I have my own ideas naturally but would really like to see what the average dynasty owner is thinking. I would really like to trade out of the 1st round but don't necessarily trust my judgement at this point.

Thanks!

 

[The Fantasy Chef]

Anyone aware of a Dynasty Trade Value chart anywhere - if such a thing exists? Been about 3 years since I have drafted a full dynasty team. I have my own ideas naturally but would really like to see what the average dynasty owner is thinking. I would really like to trade out of the 1st round but don't necessarily trust my judgement at this point.

Thanks!

You could always use adp from the website.

 

[Monsters of the Midway]

Been offered Ahmad Bradshaw for Jon Bostic. I'm a grumpy Vick Ballard owner.

I think I need to make the deal