HellToupee
Footballguy
Health. High risk/reward I guess but the Steelers can't afford to miss .
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*** 2013 Official Pittsburgh Steelers Off & ON Season Thread *** (2 Viewers)
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Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Yeah, how does a top 5 "lock" go from that to this. Youd think someone would have traded up for him at this point
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Wow.
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
I think it has to be Jones, unless the medical staff has something on him. If not...give me Eifert.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I don't think Floyd is suited to 0 tech. Possible, I suppose, and would be great value.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Pick already in, wasting no time again.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
Jones?
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Did we bring in Jones for a vist?!
I see pick is in already...thats quick
I see pick is in already...thats quick
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
Pick in already?
Franknbeans
Footballguy
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
That might have been faster than the DeCastro pick last year.
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
Good enough.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
He's the best fit at OLB in the whole draft.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Boo Ya!
As I posted in the draft thread... Jones has 28 sacks over the past 2 seasons, in the SEC of all places. 13.5 and 14.5.
As I posted in the draft thread... Jones has 28 sacks over the past 2 seasons, in the SEC of all places. 13.5 and 14.5.
HellToupee
Footballguy
High risk/reward I guess
I know what he's done in the SEC but the medical + slow time really make me leery
I know what he's done in the SEC but the medical + slow time really make me leery
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Led the nation in sacks and forced fumbles last year playing in the SEC. The two things this defense needs is more pressure and more turnovers.
3C's
Footballguy
I don't think the risk is really that high. The doctors have checked him out. He clearly passed.
As to his play, I think he is very low risk. I think he is a top 5 player.
I love the pick.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Slow time is overrated IMO. Terrell Suggs ran a 4.9 too. The medical is my only concern, but it didn't seem to be an issue the last two seasons.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Call whatever you want. I love the pick!
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
If you dont subscribe to SI and/or don't know Jones' story, read it at Steelersdepot. Gruden said on a character scale of 1-10, Jones is "a 15."
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Bengals take Eifert. Interesting.
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
Eifert to the Bengals could haunt us. Hope Jones has decent coverage skills.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Jones can cover a little, but that's the weakest part of his game. Eifert is a tough cover even for a DB
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Anyone who has watched even a handful of Jones' snaps between the hedges knows that he isn't a 4.9 player.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
HellToupee
Footballguy
Eifert to the goshdarn Bengals
damn I like that move for them
damn I like that move for them
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Evilgrin 72
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Here's a question : does Jones beat out Worilds this year and when?
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
If nothing else, I expect to see a lot of Jarvis on 3rd downs.
3C's
Footballguy
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Given what we know of Butler/LeBeau with LBs? Probably not until late in the year at the earliest, unless Worilds just craters, but he'll get used on third downs no question.
Not really, but clearly his days are numbered now being a FA come '14.
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Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Worilds actually had a higher sacks/snaps ratio then Harrison or Woodley last year IIRC. Guy at least deserves a chance, but at least now we have a replacement.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Worilds has looked a lot better at the Sam than the WIll. Woodley shows up fat/unproductive again any chance they move on from him in '14 if Worilds performs?
I assume not, since he was just restructured. Cap hit would likely be huge. Just thinking out loud.
I assume not, since he was just restructured. Cap hit would likely be huge. Just thinking out loud.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Been on the phone for awhile now, just wanted to say JARVIS JONES 
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
No running backs in the first is a nice set up for the steelers in the second.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Well, Lacy was the only one who had a shot...Im not surprised by this, but it will definitely be interesting if Lacy is still out there a few picks before us in the 2nd.
Personally, I think Lacy will go early 2nd, but we will see
timschochet
Footballguy
Lacy will be gone. If he's there, they should grab him.
But maybe they should try and take Marcus Lattimore later...
But maybe they should try and take Marcus Lattimore later...
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Lacy, Ball, or Franklin works for me. Or Schweringer at safety.
steelcityman
Footballguy
C grade from me.
PS: How do the damn Patriots make deals like that seemingly every year? 4 picks to move back a little over half a round? C'mon.
But the Vikings did get what they wanted. DL, DB, WR...and highly ranked ones at that. A+ for Vikes.
Minter, Te'o, Lacy, Bernard, Ertz, Banks, Allen, Hunter, Cyprien, Tank, Warford, Watson....we got 16th in 2nd, Smith, Nassib should be 2 outta 15 of them. I just listed 11. Heck, our 2nd rd pick could very well be better than our first.
PS: How do the damn Patriots make deals like that seemingly every year? 4 picks to move back a little over half a round? C'mon.
But the Vikings did get what they wanted. DL, DB, WR...and highly ranked ones at that. A+ for Vikes.
Minter, Te'o, Lacy, Bernard, Ertz, Banks, Allen, Hunter, Cyprien, Tank, Warford, Watson....we got 16th in 2nd, Smith, Nassib should be 2 outta 15 of them. I just listed 11. Heck, our 2nd rd pick could very well be better than our first.
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H8fulHuck
Footballguy
Love the Jarvis Jones pick. He has a knack for generating turnovers and has a quick first step.
Round 2: Give me some Keenan Allen. PGH needs another starting WR and he has slipped to day 2, Go get him Colbert!!!
CB, S or ILB would make sense if WR value isn't there.
Sounds like I'm in the minority regarding Lacy. I don't see special talent here. The OL did the dirty work for him. PASS in round 2.
Round 2: Give me some Keenan Allen. PGH needs another starting WR and he has slipped to day 2, Go get him Colbert!!!
CB, S or ILB would make sense if WR value isn't there.
Sounds like I'm in the minority regarding Lacy. I don't see special talent here. The OL did the dirty work for him. PASS in round 2.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Love the pick! Need met BPA. Dominated the SEC and checked out with Steelers doctors.
Next pick to me comes down to safety, RB or ILB if they think Sean Spence is in trouble.
I like Cyprien, Franklin or Arthur Brown if any are still there. Great White Swope in the 3rd.
Next pick to me comes down to safety, RB or ILB if they think Sean Spence is in trouble.
I like Cyprien, Franklin or Arthur Brown if any are still there. Great White Swope in the 3rd.
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Franknbeans
Footballguy
"At the end of the day ... I think it's a great fit with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm loving it."
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/steelers-pick-jarvis-jones-in-first-round-of-nfl-draft-685047/#ixzz2RZGxLkHI
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/steelers-pick-jarvis-jones-in-first-round-of-nfl-draft-685047/#ixzz2RZGxLkHI
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Given that ALL of the runners made it out of round one, that reinforces my opinion that they should just wait on that position til 4. Go after D/WR with the next two picks, in whichever order, then assess the RB situation in the 4th.
Only guy I would feel okay about them taking in 2 is Gio and I'd probably they take a pass if Hunter/Wheaton are available at WR, or if Cyprien or Williams somehow fall at S and NG respectively. Don't really want Lacy much, don't want Franklin in 2, and don't trust Lattimore to select him that high. Any other RB in this class pretty much "feels about the same" to me.
Only guy I would feel okay about them taking in 2 is Gio and I'd probably they take a pass if Hunter/Wheaton are available at WR, or if Cyprien or Williams somehow fall at S and NG respectively. Don't really want Lacy much, don't want Franklin in 2, and don't trust Lattimore to select him that high. Any other RB in this class pretty much "feels about the same" to me.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Ton of talent out there at need positions still. Safeties out the wazoo, several WRs, couple running backs, some ILB prospects, all 3 of the top NTs, all but 1 TE. LOTS of guys left that can really help. Now, let's hope for a QB run.
Evilgrin 72
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I know most fans are happy with the Jones pick, but I'm a touch surprised to see a decent percentage of Steeler fans down on him. Last year, he missed two games and still led the nation in both sacks and TFL. In 10 games he played against top competition (SEC games, GT rivalry game, and bowl game) - he recorded 13 sacks. Against Alabama in the SEC title game, he sacked McCarron twice, going through a line that we just saw two guys drafted from in the top 11 picks. Against Nebraska in the Capital One Bowl, he sacked a very mobile Taylor Martinez twice more.
Don't tell me this kid can't get to the QB because he ran a 4.9. If memory serves, both Harrison and Woodley ran in the 4.75-4.8 range and they never seemed to have a problem racking up sacks. It's about a lot more than quickness, let alone top-end speed. Even though Ansah and Mingo can run 4.5-4.6, it's not going to do them a ton of good if they have no pass rush moves. NFL tackles can still get between you and the ball, and you have to have an arsenal at your disposal to beat them. That's what Jones brings.
Don't tell me this kid can't get to the QB because he ran a 4.9. If memory serves, both Harrison and Woodley ran in the 4.75-4.8 range and they never seemed to have a problem racking up sacks. It's about a lot more than quickness, let alone top-end speed. Even though Ansah and Mingo can run 4.5-4.6, it's not going to do them a ton of good if they have no pass rush moves. NFL tackles can still get between you and the ball, and you have to have an arsenal at your disposal to beat them. That's what Jones brings.
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