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2013 Rookie 1.04 (1 Viewer)

Who is rookie pick 1.04 in Start 2 QB Scoring?

  • QB Matt Barkley

    Votes: 27 20.9%
  • QB Ryan Nassib

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • QB Mike Glennon

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • QB E.J. Manuel

    Votes: 2 1.6%
  • QB Tyler Wilson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • RB Montee Ball

    Votes: 3 2.3%
  • RB Marcus Lattimore

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • RB Le'Veon Bell

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • WR Cordarrelle Patterson

    Votes: 28 21.7%
  • WR Keenan Allen

    Votes: 9 7.0%
  • WR Tavon Austin

    Votes: 6 4.7%
  • TE Tyler Eifert

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • TE Zach Ertz

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Don't play - No vote

    Votes: 51 39.5%

  • Total voters
    129

Faust

MVP
2013 Rookie 1.01

2013 Rookie 1.02

2013 Rookie 1.03

Standard Scoring

1.01 RB Eddie Lacy (83%)

1.02 RB Giovani Bernard (46%)

1.03 WR Cordarrelle Patterson (43%)

PPR Scoring

1.01 RB Eddie Lacy (68%)

1.02 WR Cordarrelle Patterson (36%)

1.03 RB Giovani Bernard (44%)

Start 2 QB Scoring

1.01 RB Eddie Lacy (42%)

1.02 QB Geno Smith (49%)

1.03 RB Giovani Bernard (25%)

 
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I wonder how many people that voted for Barkley in the 2 qb poll would change to Patterson after reading this

After watching over 250 of his college throws, NFL Films guru Greg Cosell believes USC QB Matt Barkley is a "fourth-round talent" on tape.

Cosell is perhaps the most respected tape watcher in football circles. "Number one, he has average arm strength by NFL standards," Cosell said. "Number two, his feet are not particularly quick, he has slower feet. And three, he's a little shorter." Elaborating on Twitter, Cosell said he believes Barkley could be an NFL starter, but would require an elite supporting cast. His biggest reservations are Barkley's arm strength and athleticism, as Cosell stated Mark Sanchez had a "stronger arm" with "much better movement" in the pocket coming out of USC. With opinions all over the map, it's hard to forecast where Barkley will be drafted. Clearly, though, he'd be a severe reach in the top ten.

 
Barley's stock is a bit of a crossroads. Cosell is likely basing a lot of his analysis on the tape from the 2012 season, and while I won't argue that there are concerns with what we see from that tape, it is important to remember that Barkley was regarded as a much better prospect at the end of the 2011 season. The key difference is that he lost Matt Kalil to the 2012 NFL draft and his starting Center in the Stanford game (excerpt from a recent Peter King column):

The case of Matt Barkley.

Before interviewing Barkley Saturday night at the combine, I asked three scouts about him. One spent two days at USC last season, and he looked at a lot of Barkley tape. The verdict: They liked his junior year (69 percent accuracy, 39-7 TD-INTs), didn't like his senior year (64 percent, 36-15) at all. One said he consistently put too much air under his throws and didn't have a good fastball. One thought he was a victim of poor coaching and a deficient offensive line last year, particularly when his starting center went out against Stanford and Barkley was beaten to a pulp.

I watched extended highlights of the Stanford and Oregon games from last season on YouTube. I didn't see the too-much-air thing, but I did see him trusting his receivers too much to make tough throws, throwing into traffic too much, and too many batted/deflected balls. He was a quarterback under siege against Stanford, once getting pummeled almost before the snap arrived on the goal line by an attacking Cardinal front. It's tough to dissect decision-making without knowing the offense or sitting down to watch tape with the guy, but he took too many chances for my taste.

At the combine, Barkley didn't throw because of a shoulder injury (rehabbed, not surgically repaired) suffered 14 weeks ago. He impressed several teams in his interviews; he probably could go as high as No. 7, to Arizona. But it's still a very fluid situation. I got the sense he could go seventh or 37th. The big question now is whether his damaged shoulder will allow him to throw free and easy four weeks from Wednesday at his Pro Day in Los Angeles.

Barkley told me he'd been throwing for a week and a half now, and, in his words, "I've definitely gained some zip on the ball. I'm rehabbing really seriously, like guys do after they have Tommy John [elbow surgery], and I believe I'll be able to throw the ball better than before I was injured. I've been able to really refine and improve my throwing motion.'' He's on a pitch count now, and he's been told he'll have no limitations when he throws for teams on March 27.

"My Pro Day will dispel those myths about my arm,'' he predicted.

Barkley seems very confident and very sure of himself without being cocky. "As I start my NFL career,'' he said, "I really want to set the record straight on a few things. People look at me like I'm some Cali boy, but I'm not that way -- I don't even know how to surf. I'm a football junkie. I'm football, 24/7.''

He talked ruefully of his challenging sessions with teams. Teams can speak with players for 15 minutes at night during the combine, and Barkley had nine such sessions (Jets, Eagles, Steelers, Raiders, Chiefs, Bills, Jaguars, Cardinals, Bucs) and informal sessions with Seattle, Cleveland and Atlanta. "We watch tape,'' he said, "and I haven't seen one TD of mine. I've seen a lot of interceptions, and they want to know why they happen. I think a couple of teams wanted me to throw coaches or whoever under the table. One team gave me sort of a trick question: 'Would you rather ride the bench and win a Super Bowl, or be a starter and not make the Super Bowl?' That's a trick question, really. I just said, 'I want to be a starter. As much as I want to win a Super Bowl ring, I don't want one handed to me without deserving it.' ''

Several teams asked about a fight in the locker room while USC was at the Sun Bowl this year, and whether he was involved. "Other than breaking it up, and saying, 'Guys, let's calm down?' No.''

He understands there's a prejudice against USC quarterbacks because of the recent failings of Mark Sanchez and Matt Leinart, and because Carson Palmer's career has declined. My thoughts: Sanchez started one full season and Barkley four, so that's not really apples-to-apples. Leinart's been a total bust. Let's not revise history on Palmer, who, from 2005 through 2007, threw 20 more touchdown passes than Brett Favre. He hasn't had staying power, but he's no bust. "My story's so much different,'' said Barkley. "When the big sanctions came down, coach [Pete] Carroll is gone, we have no A.D., it's the spring of my freshman year and I've got to stand up and speak for the program. We've got all these penalties, and I helped rally the troops. That actually helped me -- helped me become more of a leader. I think I bring a lot that's not quantifiable, starting with the fact that I've been a four-year starter.''

One of the last things we discussed is Barkley's trip to the Manning Passing Academy last July, his first trip to see into Peyton's and Eli's worlds. "I learned a valuable lesson from Peyton, about sometimes you have to be a d---,'' he said. In other words, if players don't want to work out in the offseason, you tell them there's no option; you tell them when and where to be somewhere. Now, maybe that doesn't happen in the first year. But a quarterback has to have the respect and authority to make sure players do what's necessary, particularly in these days of less intense offseason programs. NFL players are off until mid-April now. Next year, wherever he is, Barkley's going to have to get his guys in gear to work out somewhere before that.

"Doing what is asked is not enough to win in the NFL, I know that,'' he said. "You've got to do more. And I intend to.''
Another analyst suggested that Matt Hasselbeck could be the type of player that Barley has potential to develop into with the right coaching, and of course the right talent surrounding him.Those who play in 10 or 12 team leagues that have 20 to 24 NFL QBs starting each week are always scrambling to secure viable QBs for bye weeks and injury depth, so even if there is a high probability that Barkey doesn't become a top 10 to top 15 FF QB, he would carry a high value in the Start 2 QB formats, as it is very likely that he will be drafted into a situation where he will have every opportunity to earn a starting job quickly.

 
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