2014 Oakland Raiders Regular Season Thread (1 Viewer)

[Chaka]

Does this pretty much sum up the past decade? "Embarrassing" doesn't cover it.

That was so frustrating, thank goodness Tuck was Johnny-on-the-spot with the timeout. He tore Moore and Mack new #######s too.IMO that was emblematic of why McKenzie brought in guys like Tuck, Woodley, Jones etc. Not so much what they can do on the field but to help mentor a young nucleus of players. IIRC this years free agents had combined for something like 7 Super Bowl rings and 11 SB appearances. I think McKenzie wanted players with a history of winning to help the coaches teach the young players what it takes to be successful in the NFL.

 

[Riversco]

The later rounds are tough to nit pick. It is the years of awful drafting in the first 2 rounds that have destroyed the Raiders for the last decade.

The Raiders have taken like a million defensive backs early over the past ten years. They've done this in a league where you need a strong DL to hit the QB to win.

DJ Heyden

Marcus Van Dyke

Michael Mitchell

Tyvon Branch

Michael Huff

Fabian Washington

Stanford Routt

If there is one position I might avoid with my top picks, its DB.... Not the Raiders apparently!

 

[kaso]

Great to see the team get a win last night. You could see how much that team to the guys who want to be there. Watson, Woodson, Tuck, Mack, CARR... they bought in to winning that game. Good on them to get one under their belt.

A couple of random thoughts:

- There has been a lot of bad this year, hell they lost 10 straight games. But I think the team is truly in a better situation for a long term sustained turn around, in comparison to the last 7-8 years under Davis. Sure, those teams 'won more games'. And sure, that's an easy measure of success. But the cost for those 4-6 wins per season was crazy stupid contracts to get those players there. And not real vision for a long term rate of success. I'll take a difficult year if it means that the teams is better for years to come.

- Each and every game I become a bigger fan of Carr. Not necessarily for what he does on the field, but for how this young kid is leading this team. In his Rookie year. It's the little things. Walking out to congratulate Janikowski on the successful FG after the offense stalled in the redzone. Or how he conducted himself in the post game interview. Or his pure excitement for the things the team does around him. Read this morning on Twitter that he walked around the entire locker room shaking the hands and/or giving a hug to every player and coach on the team last night. The team has needed that young leadership for a long long time.

- Woodson. Wow. What can be said. 17 years, on a losing team, and puts everything he has into every single play.

- I'm going to keep hitting refresh on the interwebs today for news that: a.) Murray's concussion was minor, and he should make a quick recovery. b.) The Raiders have released MJD. c.) The Raiders have released D. Moore.

 

[massraider]

I thought Kasa was our 6th rounder, and McGee was our 7th? And while I'm happy we got Murray, let's not forget we passed on Andre Ellington for all these guys. But enjoy the win. Carry on.

Pointless. Completely.

You can play that game with every single team in the league.

 

[Chaka]

Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 14m14 minutes ago

Sio Moores reply: You know how they say act like youve been there before I havent. Locker room erupted in laughter

?

 

[massraider]

Great to see the team get a win last night. You could see how much that team to the guys who want to be there. Watson, Woodson, Tuck, Mack, CARR... they bought in to winning that game. Good on them to get one under their belt.

A couple of random thoughts:

- There has been a lot of bad this year, hell they lost 10 straight games. But I think the team is truly in a better situation for a long term sustained turn around, in comparison to the last 7-8 years under Davis. Sure, those teams 'won more games'. And sure, that's an easy measure of success. But the cost for those 4-6 wins per season was crazy stupid contracts to get those players there. And not real vision for a long term rate of success. I'll take a difficult year if it means that the teams is better for years to come.

- Each and every game I become a bigger fan of Carr. Not necessarily for what he does on the field, but for how this young kid is leading this team. In his Rookie year. It's the little things. Walking out to congratulate Janikowski on the successful FG after the offense stalled in the redzone. Or how he conducted himself in the post game interview. Or his pure excitement for the things the team does around him. Read this morning on Twitter that he walked around the entire locker room shaking the hands and/or giving a hug to every player and coach on the team last night. The team has needed that young leadership for a long long time.

- Woodson. Wow. What can be said. 17 years, on a losing team, and puts everything he has into every single play.

- I'm going to keep hitting refresh on the interwebs today for news that: a.) Murray's concussion was minor, and he should make a quick recovery. b.) The Raiders have released MJD. c.) The Raiders have released D. Moore.

Austin Howard, pancaking Dontari Poe to pop Murray for that 90 yard run was my favorite play.

 

[Riversco]

I do have to give the Raiders tons of credit for the Khalil Mack pick. Might not be a better defensive player to come out for 10 years. The Browns and Bills PASSED on that. That just tells you those two teams are going nowhere. Raiders maybe they are starting to figure it out.

What the Raiders should do now is start picking defensive line with high picks to build around Mack and in a couple years they could turn things around quick.

 

[Henry Ford]

Man, if you guys have found your QB, RB, and linebacking corps, and have the first overall pick there might be some good years comin' in Oakland. Or L.A. or San Antonio. Wherever.

Let us try not to get ahead of ourselves. We have had more than a decade of this kind of thinking only to implode.

I am not at all a Raiders fan, and have considered the Raiders the worst team in the league for a decade, from the top down.

This Raiders core is legit. It's absolutely worth building on. You should start getting excited now.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Man, if you guys have found your QB, RB, and linebacking corps, and have the first overall pick there might be some good years comin' in Oakland. Or L.A. or San Antonio. Wherever.

Let us try not to get ahead of ourselves. We have had more than a decade of this kind of thinking only to implode.

I am not at all a Raiders fan, and have considered the Raiders the worst team in the league for a decade, from the top down.

This Raiders core is legit. It's absolutely worth building on. You should start getting excited now.

FYI, I think you are talking to a Chiefs fan.

 

[Henry Ford]

Man, if you guys have found your QB, RB, and linebacking corps, and have the first overall pick there might be some good years comin' in Oakland. Or L.A. or San Antonio. Wherever.

Let us try not to get ahead of ourselves. We have had more than a decade of this kind of thinking only to implode.

I am not at all a Raiders fan, and have considered the Raiders the worst team in the league for a decade, from the top down.

This Raiders core is legit. It's absolutely worth building on. You should start getting excited now.

FYI, I think you are talking to a Chiefs fan.

Don't be silly. No one's a Chiefs fan.

 

[Chaka]

2013 draft class looks better each week.

2014 draft class is being talked about as the best in the league.

Got Burris with a severely depleted 2012 draft class.

FIRE REGGIE!!!

 

[dcgangstas]

Very proud of the effort displayed by the Beloved Silver and Black last night.

Really pleased with the progress Carr and Mack are making, though was really annoyed at Mack's antics after the sack. Tuck just ripped into him and Moore.

Latavius has skills; turn the kid loose!!

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Got Burris with a severely depleted 2012 draft class.

 

[LawFitz]

2013 draft class looks better each week.

2014 draft class is being talked about as the best in the league.

Got Burris with a severely depleted 2012 draft class.

FIRE REGGIE!!!

We now have a QB to build around, one of the league's best young defensive players and $60 MM in cap space and yet some here think we were better off two years ago.

The poster that threw Ellington out to argue against Reggie's late picks is being extremely unfair. Without looking, I would guess Reggie has the highest percentage of late round hits in the league over the last three years.

 

[Chaka]

If the stadium wasn't such a #### hole I think the Raiders would be one of the most desirable spots for a new head coach. Who would turn down such a promising young roster and that much cap space to play with?

 

[Dondante]

If the stadium wasn't such a #### hole I think the Raiders would be one of the most desirable spots for a new head coach. Who would turn down such a promising young roster and that much cap space to play with?

That team is still run by a Davis, yes? I'm not suggesting the current Davis won't be decent to work for. Hell, he could be a dream to work for. It seems, from reading this thread and watching a tiny bit of games that the GM has done some decent things (if not just hit a few dingers). I'm just saying it would give me pause. Call it JimmyBuss Syndrome.

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

Man, if you guys have found your QB, RB, and linebacking corps, and have the first overall pick there might be some good years comin' in Oakland. Or L.A. or San Antonio. Wherever.

Let us try not to get ahead of ourselves. We have had more than a decade of this kind of thinking only to implode.

I am not at all a Raiders fan, and have considered the Raiders the worst team in the league for a decade, from the top down.

This Raiders core is legit. It's absolutely worth building on. You should start getting excited now.

FYI, I think you are talking to a Chiefs fan.

Don't be silly. No one's a Chiefs fan.

I went to college with a Chiefs fan. She was weird.

 

[Chaka]

If the stadium wasn't such a #### hole I think the Raiders would be one of the most desirable spots for a new head coach. Who would turn down such a promising young roster and that much cap space to play with?

That team is still run by a Davis, yes? I'm not suggesting the current Davis won't be decent to work for. Hell, he could be a dream to work for. It seems, from reading this thread and watching a tiny bit of games that the GM has done some decent things (if not just hit a few dingers). I'm just saying it would give me pause. Call it JimmyBuss Syndrome.

Not firing the GM would be a good demonstration that he (Davis) was capable of creating stability.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

If the stadium wasn't such a #### hole I think the Raiders would be one of the most desirable spots for a new head coach. Who would turn down such a promising young roster and that much cap space to play with?

That team is still run by a Davis, yes? I'm not suggesting the current Davis won't be decent to work for. Hell, he could be a dream to work for. It seems, from reading this thread and watching a tiny bit of games that the GM has done some decent things (if not just hit a few dingers). I'm just saying it would give me pause. Call it JimmyBuss Syndrome.

Not firing the GM would be a good demonstration that he (Davis) was capable of creating stability.

9-34 is dysfunctional. don't go trying to sugarcoat it. fact is Davis said he expected more this season. promised he'd make changes and would not take excuses or alibis. nobody will blame him for cleaning house after year 3 of such a failed regime. stability is the least of his worries. get a new stadium if you want to talk about stability.

 

[LawFitz]

9-34 is dysfunctional. don't go trying to sugarcoat it. fact is Davis said he expected more this season. promised he'd make changes and would not take excuses or alibis. nobody will blame him for cleaning house after year 3 of such a failed regime. stability is the least of his worries. get a new stadium if you want to talk about stability.

Yes, short-sighted fans like you would probably cheer Reggie's firing.

Interesting however, that two posters, whose opinions I respect very much on these boards - Chaka and Massraider - appear to disagree with your stance. Gives me hope that someone at Raiders HQ will also be able to see the forest in this situation.

 

[Chaka]

If the stadium wasn't such a #### hole I think the Raiders would be one of the most desirable spots for a new head coach. Who would turn down such a promising young roster and that much cap space to play with?

That team is still run by a Davis, yes? I'm not suggesting the current Davis won't be decent to work for. Hell, he could be a dream to work for. It seems, from reading this thread and watching a tiny bit of games that the GM has done some decent things (if not just hit a few dingers). I'm just saying it would give me pause. Call it JimmyBuss Syndrome.

Not firing the GM would be a good demonstration that he (Davis) was capable of creating stability.

9-34 is dysfunctional. don't go trying to sugarcoat it. fact is Davis said he expected more this season. promised he'd make changes and would not take excuses or alibis. nobody will blame him for cleaning house after year 3 of such a failed regime. stability is the least of his worries. get a new stadium if you want to talk about stability.

I disagree with your definition of failure. This team was much worse off three years ago. Three more 4, 6 or even 8 win seasons of kicking the can down the road and they would be worse off then they are today.How can a Raiders fan not see the value and potential of the young core of players you now have in place and all the cap room in the world? It sounds odd to say about a 1 win team but they look like they are building up for sustained success. They just need to make the right choice for their next coach and they could be a playoff team maybe even next season.

There is a lot to be excited about in Oakland.

 

[RaiderBones]

Isn't anyone mad that it took this long to give Murray a shot with the ineptitude week in and week out McFadden/MJD put on the field?

Very much so. I have been saying since the beginning of the season that Murray needs more touches if not the starting job. McFadden and MJD have been running at 3 yards or less on average all season long. Why not see what your young RB in Murray can do. It made zero sense to me.

 

[RaiderBones]

Hiring Allen was only one of his failures. His ability to evaluate FAs is another big failure. And 2013 draft class does not appear to be headed for success. In fact, I can legitimately argue that Reggie"s ONLY success was his draft from last year.

[SIZE=13.63636302948px]What evidence do you have that he will make a better head coach hire if given another chance? What evidence do you have that given a large salary cap again that he will make better FA signings next year? [/SIZE]

I disagree about the 2013 draft. Since coming back Hayden has played good. He is by no means a stud yet but he has helped the secondary since coming back. Watson is slowly getting better and better each game. Lets not forget that Watson only played 2 years of football before being drafted by the Raiders. Finally Sio Moore the Raiders 3rd round pick has been playing really good and he keeps getting better and better. Him and Mack will make an excellent OLB duo for years to come.

6th round picks:

Latavius Murray

Mychal Rivera

Stacy McGee

7th round pick:

Brice Butler

I wonder how many teams had 6th and 7th rounders that we might prefer to the Raiders picks.

I was just coming in here to update my post and add those players as well.

The 2013 draft is looking better and better each and every week. As long as the players keep developing and getting better plus staying healthy the 2013 class could be like a real nice draft class for the Raiders in a year or two.

 

[RaiderBones]

Great to see the team get a win last night. You could see how much that team to the guys who want to be there. Watson, Woodson, Tuck, Mack, CARR... they bought in to winning that game. Good on them to get one under their belt.

A couple of random thoughts:

- There has been a lot of bad this year, hell they lost 10 straight games. But I think the team is truly in a better situation for a long term sustained turn around, in comparison to the last 7-8 years under Davis. Sure, those teams 'won more games'. And sure, that's an easy measure of success. But the cost for those 4-6 wins per season was crazy stupid contracts to get those players there. And not real vision for a long term rate of success. I'll take a difficult year if it means that the teams is better for years to come.

- Each and every game I become a bigger fan of Carr. Not necessarily for what he does on the field, but for how this young kid is leading this team. In his Rookie year. It's the little things. Walking out to congratulate Janikowski on the successful FG after the offense stalled in the redzone. Or how he conducted himself in the post game interview. Or his pure excitement for the things the team does around him. Read this morning on Twitter that he walked around the entire locker room shaking the hands and/or giving a hug to every player and coach on the team last night. The team has needed that young leadership for a long long time.

- Woodson. Wow. What can be said. 17 years, on a losing team, and puts everything he has into every single play.

- I'm going to keep hitting refresh on the interwebs today for news that: a.) Murray's concussion was minor, and he should make a quick recovery. b.) The Raiders have released MJD. c.) The Raiders have released D. Moore.

You forgot to add d) the Raiders have released Darren McFadden.

 

[RaiderBones]

I do have to give the Raiders tons of credit for the Khalil Mack pick. Might not be a better defensive player to come out for 10 years. The Browns and Bills PASSED on that. That just tells you those two teams are going nowhere. Raiders maybe they are starting to figure it out.

What the Raiders should do now is start picking defensive line with high picks to build around Mack and in a couple years they could turn things around quick.

I agree. The Raiders do need to add youth and talent to the DL, that should be a high priority for them.

 

[ICON211]

If the stadium wasn't such a #### hole I think the Raiders would be one of the most desirable spots for a new head coach. Who would turn down such a promising young roster and that much cap space to play with?

That team is still run by a Davis, yes? I'm not suggesting the current Davis won't be decent to work for. Hell, he could be a dream to work for. It seems, from reading this thread and watching a tiny bit of games that the GM has done some decent things (if not just hit a few dingers). I'm just saying it would give me pause. Call it JimmyBuss Syndrome.

Not firing the GM would be a good demonstration that he (Davis) was capable of creating stability.

9-34 is dysfunctional. don't go trying to sugarcoat it. fact is Davis said he expected more this season. promised he'd make changes and would not take excuses or alibis. nobody will blame him for cleaning house after year 3 of such a failed regime. stability is the least of his worries. get a new stadium if you want to talk about stability.

I disagree with your definition of failure. This team was much worse off three years ago. Three more 4, 6 or even 8 win seasons of kicking the can down the road and they would be worse off then they are today.How can a Raiders fan not see the value and potential of the young core of players you now have in place and all the cap room in the world? It sounds odd to say about a 1 win team but they look like they are building up for sustained success. They just need to make the right choice for their next coach and they could be a playoff team maybe even next season.

There is a lot to be excited about in Oakland.

Reggie had a ton of cap room last year and pretty much wasted it all. Now all these guys can be cut which is a bit of a silver lining, but that is also kicking the can down the road. And yes, they do have a few good young players......a few. Top to bottom it's the worst roster in the league. And he traded for Flynn and Schaub. And he hired Allen who brought in Knapp and then Olsen. I think people are getting a little too excited about 1 win today. His entire body of work would have to rate as poor.

 

[Chaka]

If the stadium wasn't such a #### hole I think the Raiders would be one of the most desirable spots for a new head coach. Who would turn down such a promising young roster and that much cap space to play with?

That team is still run by a Davis, yes? I'm not suggesting the current Davis won't be decent to work for. Hell, he could be a dream to work for. It seems, from reading this thread and watching a tiny bit of games that the GM has done some decent things (if not just hit a few dingers). I'm just saying it would give me pause. Call it JimmyBuss Syndrome.

Not firing the GM would be a good demonstration that he (Davis) was capable of creating stability.

9-34 is dysfunctional. don't go trying to sugarcoat it. fact is Davis said he expected more this season. promised he'd make changes and would not take excuses or alibis. nobody will blame him for cleaning house after year 3 of such a failed regime. stability is the least of his worries. get a new stadium if you want to talk about stability.

I disagree with your definition of failure. This team was much worse off three years ago. Three more 4, 6 or even 8 win seasons of kicking the can down the road and they would be worse off then they are today.How can a Raiders fan not see the value and potential of the young core of players you now have in place and all the cap room in the world? It sounds odd to say about a 1 win team but they look like they are building up for sustained success. They just need to make the right choice for their next coach and they could be a playoff team maybe even next season.

There is a lot to be excited about in Oakland.

Reggie had a ton of cap room last year and pretty much wasted it all. Now all these guys can be cut which is a bit of a silver lining, but that is also kicking the can down the road. And yes, they do have a few good young players......a few. Top to bottom it's the worst roster in the league. And he traded for Flynn and Schaub. And he hired Allen who brought in Knapp and then Olsen. I think people are getting a little too excited about 1 win today. His entire body of work would have to rate as poor.

Once again I have to say that this year's free agents were more about wins in the locker room then on the field.No GM bats 1000 and neither has Reggie but the future looks nice in Oakland.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Hayden, Allen, letting veldheer and Houston walk and Flynn and schaub are the biggest Reggie gaffs IMHO

Not having a coach is a problem. If the team shows some life down the stretch, maybe they can entice someone good to come in

 

[massraider]

D-Line, as a whole, for sure. Tuck is a savvy vet now, not a difference maker. Woodley was a bust FA move. No other DE to speak of. DT has some interesting youngsters, Ellis and McGee, but a stud vet would make them look a lot better.

I'd rather approach the D-line in free agency if we can, and maybe focus the draft more towards offensive playmakers. It seems like this free agency period is gonna be pretty deep at D-line. Check out these names:

Ndamukong Suh

Ahtya Rubin

Tyson Alualu

Nick Fairley

Terrence Knighton

Dan Williams

Dwan Edwards

Jason Pierre-Paul

Cliff Avril

Brandon Graham

Derrick Morgan

Adrian Clayborn

Jared Odrick

DaQuan Bowers

George Selvie

George Johnson

Not all of these guys will hit free agency, but a LOT of them will.

 

[massraider]

Hayden, Allen, letting veldheer and Houston walk and Flynn and schaub are the biggest Reggie gaffs IMHO

Not having a coach is a problem. If the team shows some life down the stretch, maybe they can entice someone good to come in

The Bears would give us Lamar Houston right now, for free, if they could. That's the kind of non-move that Belichick gets applause for.

 

[Chaka]

Hayden, Allen, letting veldheer and Houston walk and Flynn and schaub are the biggest Reggie gaffs IMHO

Not having a coach is a problem. If the team shows some life down the stretch, maybe they can entice someone good to come in

The Bears would give us Lamar Houston right now, for free, if they could. That's the kind of non-move that Belichick gets applause for.

I like Houston but was never sold on him as an anchor type DE. Solid run stuffer only okay at getting to the QB.Veldheer was a loss but I think the line as a whole is better than last year's version. Fewest sacks in the league, think about that. Did anyone think that was going to happen?

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Hayden, Allen, letting veldheer and Houston walk and Flynn and schaub are the biggest Reggie gaffs IMHO

Not having a coach is a problem. If the team shows some life down the stretch, maybe they can entice someone good to come in

The Bears would give us Lamar Houston right now, for free, if they could. That's the kind of non-move that Belichick gets applause for.

True, but for me it was not tagging one of them. Especially veldheer. Would the team look better with veldheer? I think so. Hindsight and all that bs. sure the Houston move looks like the right one now. But if I'm going to ##### about the moves they make, I won't flip flop Later. Trust me, I want to be wrong. And I think the Allen hire was his worst decision. By far.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I won't back down one tiny little bit off the stance I want Reggie gone. His offseason free agency plan was horrendous and DA should have been fired this offseason, not 4 games in. Reggie inherited a team that had gone 8-8 two consecutive years and was competing to the last day of the season for the playoffs. In three years, he turned us into the laughing stock of the league. I cannot wait for the post-Reggie era.

 

[Chaka]

8-8 two whole years in a row???

Wow I didn't realize how dominant they were. My bad.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

8-8 two whole years in a row???

Wow I didn't realize how dominant they were. My bad.

It's ok, I forgive you for not telling the difference between being a playoff contender and being the most ridiculed doormat team in the league.

 

[ICON211]

D-Line, as a whole, for sure. Tuck is a savvy vet now, not a difference maker. Woodley was a bust FA move. No other DE to speak of. DT has some interesting youngsters, Ellis and McGee, but a stud vet would make them look a lot better.

I'd rather approach the D-line in free agency if we can, and maybe focus the draft more towards offensive playmakers. It seems like this free agency period is gonna be pretty deep at D-line. Check out these names:

Ndamukong Suh

Ahtya Rubin

Tyson Alualu

Nick Fairley

Terrence Knighton

Dan Williams

Dwan Edwards

Jason Pierre-Paul

Cliff Avril

Brandon Graham

Derrick Morgan

Adrian Clayborn

Jared Odrick

DaQuan Bowers

George Selvie

George Johnson

Not all of these guys will hit free agency, but a LOT of them will.

Definitely some real nice defensive linemen in FA looks like. This team needs a stud WR badly. I don't think you take a WR in the top 5 unless it's a Calvin Johnson type of talent and those type of guys do not come around that often. I like Amari Cooper, but I don't see him as being on that level. Maybe they could trade down, get extra picks and take Cooper later in this first. Anyone have an idea what WRs might be in free agency?

 

[massraider]

WRs whose contracts expire:

DeMaryius Thomas

Jeremy Maclin

Dez Bryant-----One could easily envision all three not leaving their respective cities.

Michael Crabtree

Nate Washington

Wes Welker

Reggie Wayne

Kenny Britt

Torrey Smith

Randall Cobb

Cecil Shorts

Jarrett Boykin

And a bunch of other guys not as good. Streater and Holmes, btw.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Demaryius and Dez are the two obvious ones. But they ain't going anywhere.

 

[Milkman]

The Raiders should invest in the OL in next years draft and give Murray a shot. This would make it easier on Carr as well plus give your best playmaker (murray) the best chance to succeed. They'll probably draft a RB with the first pick though watch. It's to bad because if they get the #1 pick they could trade it and get an extra 1st next year plus a 3rd this year from a QB needy team and build that OL up pretty easily.

Agreed, I'd just like to see them build up the parts of the team that are weaker than O-line:

WR

WR

DE

DE

DT

DT

MLB

CB

CB

FS

TE

Yes they're terrible everywhere and should take BPA when it's clear who that is but they should lean OL whenever possible. They should be trying to make it as easy as possible for Carr to succeed. It's even more important now that it seems their best offensive playmaker on the team (Murray) would also benefit from an OL upgrade.

 

[Chaka]

8-8 two whole years in a row???

Wow I didn't realize how dominant they were. My bad.

It's ok, I forgive you for not telling the difference between being a playoff contender and being the most ridiculed doormat team in the league.

Kicking the can. They couldn't afford to keep that team together that's the bottom line. That team needed to be torn down to the studs and rebuilt. I think it is a terrible idea to change course now that there seems to be a solid foundation coming together. Bringing in a new GM with a different vision will only stall progress.They have a young solid offensive line, young RB, young QB. Get them a legitimate playmaker on the outside and suddenly you have the makings of an intimidating offense.

The defense needs more help but you have a LB corps that could be one of the best in the league for years to come. If Hayden continues to develop (and stay healthy) he makes a nice cornerstone for the secondary. A couple nice DTs already in place so bringing in a legitimate rush end should probably be the priority on defense and I think that can be accomplished in free agency.

This team looks closer to being good than bad for years to come. Why change it now?

 

[Chaka]

And Reggie didn't create the sad reality of Raider ineptitude. Before the glory days of two consecutive 8-8 seasons (with no cap space or draft picks to build on them) and almost, but not quite, being able to be one-and-done in the playoffs they had 5, 5, 4, 2, 4, 5 & 4 win seasons.. So let's not pretend they had the formula for success figured out.

This team may not win another game this season but there is a lot more to like then dislike about the future for the Raiders.

 

[Chaka]

The Raiders should invest in the OL in next years draft and give Murray a shot. This would make it easier on Carr as well plus give your best playmaker (murray) the best chance to succeed. They'll probably draft a RB with the first pick though watch. It's to bad because if they get the #1 pick they could trade it and get an extra 1st next year plus a 3rd this year from a QB needy team and build that OL up pretty easily.

Agreed, I'd just like to see them build up the parts of the team that are weaker than O-line:

WR

WR

DE

DE

DT

DT

MLB

CB

CB

FS

TE

Yes they're terrible everywhere and should take BPA when it's clear who that is but they should lean OL whenever possible. They should be trying to make it as easy as possible for Carr to succeed. It's even more important now that it seems their best offensive playmaker on the team (Murray) would also benefit from an OL upgrade.

I am a big fan of building the lines first but they have a pretty solid one in place (nothing a marquee LT wouldn't make better though) and they so desperately need a playmaker on the outside which would also make Carr's job easier. Who are the best WRs and OTs in next year's draft?

 

[LawFitz]

And Reggie didn't create the sad reality of Raider ineptitude. Before the glory days of two consecutive 8-8 seasons (with no cap space or draft picks to build on them) and almost, but not quite, being able to be one-and-done in the playoffs they had 5, 5, 4, 2, 4, 5 & 4 win seasons.. So let's not pretend they had the formula for success figured out.

This team may not win another game this season but there is a lot more to like then dislike about the future for the Raiders.

Bravo. Somebody gets it.

Even sitting at 1-10, we are in a MUCH better position today than we were 2-3 years ago. Don't derail us now, Mark!!!

 

[Chaka]

And Reggie didn't create the sad reality of Raider ineptitude. Before the glory days of two consecutive 8-8 seasons (with no cap space or draft picks to build on them) and almost, but not quite, being able to be one-and-done in the playoffs they had 5, 5, 4, 2, 4, 5 & 4 win seasons.. So let's not pretend they had the formula for success figured out.

This team may not win another game this season but there is a lot more to like then dislike about the future for the Raiders.

Bravo. Somebody gets it.

Even sitting at 1-10, we are in a MUCH better position today than we were 2-3 years ago. Don't derail us now, Mark!!!

If they do bring in a new GM it has to be someone who LOVES Derek Carr, too often GMs (and HCs) want to bring in "their guy", the Raiders definitely cannot afford that now. At least we can be confident that Reggie will bring in a HC who Is committed to Carr.

 

[Milkman]

Agreed an elite WR would make it easier on Carr as well. Hopefully they lose enough to get the 1st pick in the draft and they can trade down because the draft class coming up is loaded with at least 7 WR and 7 OT projected in the first and second rounds by cbs draft scout. I have only watched tape on a few WR. DGB, Parker, and Cooper. Out of the three DGB looks special to me but he's a huge off the field question mark.

 

[RaiderBones]

Hayden, Allen, letting veldheer and Houston walk and Flynn and schaub are the biggest Reggie gaffs IMHO

Not having a coach is a problem. If the team shows some life down the stretch, maybe they can entice someone good to come in

Veldheer and Houston weren't that big of losses. Bear fans were getting frustrated with Houston already and Penn has been just as good as Veldheer. Really the only thing Veldheer had on Penn is youth.

 

[RaiderBones]

@BairCSN: Vast improvement: RT @JoshDubowAP: #Raiders opponents converted NFL-low 29.7% of 3rd downs last 5 games. It was NFL-high 52.9% 1st 6 games

 

[RaiderBones]

I have to admit the Raiders do seem to like and play hard for Tony Sparano.

 

[massraider]

The Raiders should invest in the OL in next years draft and give Murray a shot. This would make it easier on Carr as well plus give your best playmaker (murray) the best chance to succeed. They'll probably draft a RB with the first pick though watch. It's to bad because if they get the #1 pick they could trade it and get an extra 1st next year plus a 3rd this year from a QB needy team and build that OL up pretty easily.

Agreed, I'd just like to see them build up the parts of the team that are weaker than O-line:

WR

WR

DE

DE

DT

DT

MLB

CB

CB

FS

TE

Yes they're terrible everywhere and should take BPA when it's clear who that is but they should lean OL whenever possible. They should be trying to make it as easy as possible for Carr to succeed. It's even more important now that it seems their best offensive playmaker on the team (Murray) would also benefit from an OL upgrade.

You haven't watched the team.

 

[Chaka]

Hayden, Allen, letting veldheer and Houston walk and Flynn and schaub are the biggest Reggie gaffs IMHO

Not having a coach is a problem. If the team shows some life down the stretch, maybe they can entice someone good to come in

Veldheer and Houston weren't that big of losses. Bear fans were getting frustrated with Houston already and Penn has been just as good as Veldheer. Really the only thing Veldheer had on Penn is youth.

All hints being equal I youth was worth it but it definitely worked out well and for significantly less