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Love the heat we're putting on Fivehead so far. He's not comfortable at all.
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2014 Oakland Raiders Regular Season Thread (1 Viewer)
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
That's more like it. 8 broken tackles for a Denver TD.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Carr throws the ball to an ineligible receiver.
The ineligible receiver decides to catch it, even though he's ineligible.
The ineligible receiver fumbles the ball away.
Check please!
The ineligible receiver decides to catch it, even though he's ineligible.
The ineligible receiver fumbles the ball away.
Check please!
lod01
Footballguy
Derek Carr trying to one up his big brother.....and succeeding.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Carr is completely shell-shocked today. First time I've seen this from him. Zero confidence.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Remember when this game was 10-6? It's like the Raiders forgot their role in this script and came to their senses.
And the sea of orange in the crowd makes me want to vomit!
And the sea of orange in the crowd makes me want to vomit!
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Seriously, remember the good old days when visiting colors got curb-stomped in the bathrooms? Now we're mingling with them!
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Still on the Carr bandwagon?
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Every rookie QB looks good in all 16 games.
cstu
Footballguy
I think Carr can eventually be good, but if you get a chance to draft Mariota you do it.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I'm going to make you all cry. You ready?
We took the legendary Fabian Washington one pick before Aaron Rodgers went to Green Bay.
But in all fairness, we had 33-year-old Kerry Collins in the fold.
We took the legendary Fabian Washington one pick before Aaron Rodgers went to Green Bay.
But in all fairness, we had 33-year-old Kerry Collins in the fold.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
System or talent? Would he have been Aaron Rodgers in Oakland, surrounded by marginal talent?
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
What a depressing effort today. I didn't see any positives.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
Speaking of what could have been, Rodgers could have been throwing the ball to CalJo.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
and Fitz on the other side. Or handing off to Adrian Peterson, if Calvin and Fitz weren't open. SMH
ICON211
Footballguy
I would settle for handing off to Murray to see what he can do, but with the enormous success McFadden and MJD have had running the ball how can we expect them to go away from them and for him to get any work.
RaiderBones
Footballguy
Oakland Raiders Relocation: Latest Rumors and Buzz on Potential Move
By Matt Fitzgerald , Featured Columnist Nov 9, 2014
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2261609-oakland-raiders-relocation-latest-rumors-and-buzz-on-potential-move?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=oakland-raiders
By Matt Fitzgerald , Featured Columnist Nov 9, 2014
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2261609-oakland-raiders-relocation-latest-rumors-and-buzz-on-potential-move?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=oakland-raiders
RaiderBones
Footballguy
LoL, this is funny. I have been saying the same things. We are only last in rushing with McFadden and MJD why not give Murray a game to see what he can do, it can't be any worse.
lod01
Footballguy
Nah. They first need to build from the inside out. OL, QB, etc. No reason to try and patch holes with a RB when the rest is a mess. Fix that first. RBs are a dime a dozen.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
Well, that is true to a certain point then you have elite guys like Charles, McCoy and Petterson that make everyone around them better. Not saying that Ingram is in that class, only pointing out that an elite talent would make a huge difference at RB as well. And help give Carr time to develop.
Chaka
Footballguy
Agree that they need to build from the inside out and am an advocate for taking either the best OL or best WR at the top of the 2015 draft. But the thought of pairing Ingram with a top WR behind a young and upcoming line with the franchise QB already in place is pretty tantalizing and could help turn things around in a hurry.
RBs may be a dime a dozen but there are still some that are far better than others. Ingram looks like he may finally be turning into one of the truly top notch ones. And it's not like the market for even top flight RBs is outrageously overpriced. I can't see him commanding more then $5M/season on a 3 year deal. It's a lot but not bank breaking for the franchise with the most cap room in the league.
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Stompin' Tom Connors
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Chargers on the road is very tough, but right now them, the Rams in STL in 3 weeks, and the Bills at home in Dec really seem like the only chances to get off the schneid.
Yes, you can never tell which way a division game with KC is going to go, but they are a game behind the broncs and are more motivated to stay in the hunt. I just don't see it happening.
Yes, you can never tell which way a division game with KC is going to go, but they are a game behind the broncs and are more motivated to stay in the hunt. I just don't see it happening.
LawFitz
Footballguy
What's more important? Avoiding 0-16 or the #1 overall pick? I'm not sure.
I like what I see from Carr enough to trade down for a Marriota bounty.
Need more OL/DL help.
Ingram would be an excellent signing, especially if front loaded to minimize future cap liability if he doesn't work out.
Why isn't Brice Butler playing more?
All is moot if we don't pony up for a legit head coach and OC.
I like what I see from Carr enough to trade down for a Marriota bounty.
Need more OL/DL help.
Ingram would be an excellent signing, especially if front loaded to minimize future cap liability if he doesn't work out.
Why isn't Brice Butler playing more?
All is moot if we don't pony up for a legit head coach and OC.
Chaka
Footballguy
And that right there is the #1 pitfall for this team IMO. I think there is enough talent in place, including the high draft slot and incredible cap space, to make Oak an attractive job. Reggie, or his successor, just has to make the right choice/sales pitch.
New stadium commitment (Los Angeles) would also be a huge selling point for a new HC.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Al Davis must be rolling over in his grave at the thought of an 0-16 season.....how far we have fallen
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Hankmoody
Footballguy
It's not like it would cost them anything they don't have in abundance. He won't cost a draft pick, and they have a ton of cap space. Heck they can even take some calculated risks with cap space. They should be chasing any and all UFA that will pick up the phone.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Question - the Raiders have run the ball less than any team since 1932, maybe in NFL history going back to 1919 or so. Why don't they at least try to run the ball more?
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Chaka
Footballguy
RaiderBones
Footballguy
Poll: Should the Raiders bring back GM Reggie McKenzie?
By Vic Tafur on November 11, 2014 11:39 AM
http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2014/11/11/poll-should-the-raiders-bring-back-gm-mckenzie/
By Vic Tafur on November 11, 2014 11:39 AM
http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2014/11/11/poll-should-the-raiders-bring-back-gm-mckenzie/
lod01
Footballguy
The fact that they not only signed Vincent 'Ive never done anything in the NFL' Brown but then give him playing time tells everyone what the correct answer should be.
Chaka
Footballguy
Yes?
And while he signed Brown I am not sure he is the one dictating how much PT he gets.
lod01
Footballguy
I didn't think I needed to explain anything about Sparano. He's not going to be the HC after this year ends.
RaiderBones
Footballguy
Jason Cole @JasonPhilCole 26m26 minutes ago
Finally, #Raiders have circulated a proposal around LA/Inglewood in hopes of getting financing for stadium. Prop is considered iffy, at best
Finally, #Raiders have circulated a proposal around LA/Inglewood in hopes of getting financing for stadium. Prop is considered iffy, at best
Chaka
Footballguy
Yeah, that's pretty obvious but I still contend that McKenzie isn't dictating how much PT Brown gets.
lod01
Footballguy
Didn't mean to imply that he is. He's the idiot that signed him. Sparano is the idiot that is putting him on the field, setting the team back further as better WRs get limited reps. These guys should not be making NFL decisions.
Chaka
Footballguy
I am not convinced there are better WRs on the roster. Seems like a big group of players that occasionally flash but are otherwise incredibly inconsistent in all facets of the game. There isn't a legitimate #1 WR on the roster and there may not be a legitimate #2 WR on the roster.
As much as I like building through the offensive line if there is a top notch "can't miss" WR prospect available in the 2015 draft I think the Raiders need to take that guy. I am just not sure there is a guy like that out there.
lod01
Footballguy
I think Brice Butler can be that guy. There is something that is stopping them from putting him out there. They are stupid. That much is for sure. The evidence is overwhelming. They have no ability to judge talent.
The TD catch, which was a flat out hands catch of a bullet by Carr, last week is a catch that Vincent Brown would only dream of making. Holmes would drop it. Moore would run the wrong route. Only thing I have been able to find is something about practice habits.
The TD catch, which was a flat out hands catch of a bullet by Carr, last week is a catch that Vincent Brown would only dream of making. Holmes would drop it. Moore would run the wrong route. Only thing I have been able to find is something about practice habits.
Chaka
Footballguy
That seems like a very optimistic judgment on many levels. It suggests that you believe yourself to be a better evaluator of NFL talent based on an extremely limited amount of information, then the guys who get paid quite handsomely to judge NFL talent. I think it is fair to say that even the stupidest NFL coach (say Rich Kotite) probably has forgotten more about football then any of us ever knew, or will ever know so I hope you understand that I have more faith in even the worst NFL coach then even the smartest poster in the Shark Pool.lod01 said:
I have been hearing all off-season and in-season how Raider WR X, Y & Z will become a true #1 WR. I think in this thread you will find arguments about how Moore, Holmes, Butler, Jones & Streater (remember him?) would emerge as the lead guy in this offense and prove themselves to be a #1 WR. Well, for whatever reason that hasn't happened. Maybe you could argue that if they were drafted by the Packers or Broncos those guys would emerge as legitimate #1 WRs but I think those situations make the WR as much as the other way around.
I guess Randy Moss looked pedestrian in Oakland, because he quit on the team but whatever, so maybe one of these guys may be a legit #1 but that seems unlikely scenario for completely unproven players.
Bottom line is the reality that the Raiders have not had a WR perform well enough to demand the respect, or provide the production, of a #1 WR.
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32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
Agree. It should be priority 1A or 2A in the draft.
joey
Footballguy
I don't believe that getting a single win at this point is enough of a moral victory to make me want a win more than the first overall pick.
We need elite talent. Not a victory or two in a lost season
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