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***2015 San Diego Chargers - Offseason News, Notes, & Analysis*** (1 Viewer)

I'm not going to say Boldin is a bad player, I'm the one who brought him up as an example that "doesn't get seperation" isn't always the end all to being a talented receiver. I thought that was your original point of contention.

Boldin last year had 66yrd/game, and a TD every 3.2 games

Crabtree last year had 44yrd/game and a TD every 4 games

I don't think either had a great year(nor Stevie Johnson, nor Vernon Davis). All I can tell you is only JAX and the NYJ had fewer passing yards last season so that sounds like a trainwreck to me from the standpoint of a receiver. If PFF has some formula that says Boldin was a great player and Crabtree was a bad player based on those #'s..... <shrug> ok. Like 'Gunz said, Crabtree will be another year removed from a major injury so I still say he would do no worse than what Royal produced if Crabtree was in the SD offense. We can disagree.
Fine, we can disagree. But FWIW, PFF grades every player on every play to reach their grades; their grades don't necessarily correlate to standard statistics. The fact that they gave Boldin a top 20 grade and Crabtree a terrible grade is meaningful IMO.
Advanced statistics and grading are meaningful and certainly something that I hope Telseco and Co note when deciding whether to make an offer and how much.

I just don't think the process is to look at PFF, see a low grade, and move on.

In addition to Crabtree's skill set, I like the fact that he's experienced and should be able to step in day 1 and start. If we are going to win now, we're going to need to roll the dice on a couple of guys and hope for a big rebound.
I already posted that the Chargers are in the bottom 10 in major sports and bottom 3 in the NFL in their usage of advanced metrics, at least per a recent ESPN article. That isn't surprising, given Telesco is a Polian disciple, and Polian generally dismisses advanced metrics. And McCoy has made it clear he does not and will not trust anything on paper over his experience/gut. So I doubt they are using them much.

I agree that the PFF grade isn't the be all end all. It's just one tool available to me beyond standard statistics that I put some stock in, because I like that they watch and grade every play, regardless of the player's role on the play. Perhaps it is worth noting that Allen, Floyd, and Royal all had positive PFF grades last season. As I already mentioned, Boldin had a positive grade and Crabtree had a substantially negative grade. Either PFF was far off in their grading, or Crabtree performed very poorly last season.

Looking at DVOA and DYAR shows a similar outcome, with Boldin, Floyd, Allen, and Royal all above Crabtree. In that case, it is closer, as Allen ranks around 55th and Crabtree 63rd. But Crabtree is still the lowest.

However, looking at WPA/EPA shows Crabtree ranked below Floyd and Royal but above Boldin and Allen. I am not as familiar with those statistics, so I'm not sure how to balance them vs. the other metrics. I do know they are focused only on the plays involving the player, not every snap, but otherwise I'm not sure how to explain the difference. But even from that page, you can see Crabtree's awful YPR and YPT numbers from last season.

Based on PFF and DVOA, Stevie Johnson grades out higher than Crabtree, though he played less than half as many snaps, so not sure how he would have done with more work.

:shrug:

 
@UTgehlken: Chargers add DB Jimmy Wilson to two-year deal, team announces. Started last year at corner, safety for Miami. San Diego native.

Any Fish fans have the scoop on this guy.
Good replacement for Gilchrist.
PFF grades:

2011: -2.4 on 216 CB snaps (didn't qualify)

2012: -6.3 on 605 CB snaps (#91 CB among those who played at least 25% of team snaps)

2013: +1.3 on 626 CB snaps (#49T CB)

2014: -9.3 on 458 CB snaps (#94T CB); +1.9 on 333 S snaps (#34T S)

Per PFF, he didn't play any snaps at S until 2014, and he played well in somewhat limited sample. However, the reports about his versatility appear to generally ignore that his CB play has been inconsistent at best. Which is more representative of his CB play, 2013, his only positive grade, or the rest of his career, including a dismal 2014 performance?

Per PFF, in 2011, he played outside CB, since then all of his CB play was in the slot. Also, while he started 5 games at safety last season, PFF shows him at FS in 4 of them and SS in just one game. His positive grade at safety was based upon his games at FS.

Does his versatility matter, or is the plan that he will start at SS? Gilchrist (-5.5) and Addae (-3.0) were both terrible last season, so I'd like to think Wilson can start and will be an upgrade. But the fact that he has played exactly 1 game at that position in his career is not reassuring. It almost seems like he was signed to replace Wright, not Gilchrist.

As for dollars, 2 years at $4.85M doesn't sound unreasonable for a starting SS. If instead he turns out to be a veteran backup DB, I'm less enthusiastic about this move.

 
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As for dollars, 2 years at $4.85M doesn't sound unreasonable for a starting SS. If instead he turns out to be a veteran backup DB, I'm less enthusiastic about this move.
I don't really have a read if he can play SS either. I would have been much more excited if this was a complimentary signing to Tyvon Branch. Branch playing the run support safety, Wilson being the passing down safety. When I saw Branch signed with KC I didn't realize it was for 1yr/$2mil.

So SD could have had a big improvement at DE, NT, and SS for 1yr/$11mil by signing Fairley, Knighton, and Branch? That would have been a huge improvement for the defense.

 
I don't think Crabtree brings anything to the team that isn't already provided through Allen, Gates and to some extent Floyd. If they're bringing in another WR it would be nice to diversify a bit.

 
I think the best free agent match at this point is Stevie Johnson. He turns 29 in July, so he isn't too old. He is 6'2", 207, so he brings a bit of size, certainly in comparison to Royal. He actually played pretty well last season, albeit in a limited role, and has had a solid run for several years, despite playing with lesser QBs than Rivers. He can play outside or from the slot. In fact, looking at the slot, he performed much better last season than any of the other notable free agents (Crabtree, Jennings, Shorts, Bowe) and better than all Chargers WRs including Royal.

On top of that, the Patriots are supposedly targeting him. That's not a reason to sign him in and of itself, but it would be a nice side benefit to deny one of the Chargers' main AFC competitors.

If they don't sign him, I'd rather see them draft someone than sign Crabtree, Bowe, Shorts, or Jennings, unless they sign one of them for a very low price. Or even trade for someone if there is a good opportunity.

 
Beerguzzler said:
Need size and physicality at the WR position.

Sadly none available fit the bill.
draft one, the rest of the FAs are worse versions of Keenan Allen

Or maybe use LaDarius at a WR spot, novel idea I know
I'd be fine with the team giving Green snaps at WR, but I don't see why they would start doing it now when they haven't done it before.

 
The answer is already on the team and that is Dontrelle Inman. These other guys are on the way out. None has any upside.

 
The answer is already on the team and that is Dontrelle Inman. These other guys are on the way out. None has any upside.
As of now, all they have is Allen, Floyd, Inman, and Jones, with Jones hopefully limited to special teams. They need one more WR. I am hopeful Inman is good enough to force his way into the top 3, but I don't see how we can count on that at this point. He was very clearly behind Royal last season.

Is he good enough to step into Royal's role? If so, then the team can draft the 4th guy without using a high draft pick.

I suppose the team's actions will be a strong indicator about how they feel about Inman. If they sign one of the free agent veterans they have been hosting and keep Floyd on the roster this year despite his relatively high cap hit, that would seem to indicate they don't feel they can count on Inman as a top 3 guy.

If they do something else, that might indicate confidence in him.

 
Dwayne Bowe is interesting, he wouldnt be terrible on a 1 year deal
I'd be as excited about Bowe as I would about Reggie Wayne.

As long as there's no signing bonus or guaranteed money, I'd be okay with bringing him in as a training camp body, but I wouldn't necessarily expect him to make the final roster. It's hard for me to envision him beating out Jacoby Jones for the WR4 spot, for example.

 
The answer is already on the team and that is Dontrelle Inman. These other guys are on the way out. None has any upside.
As of now, all they have is Allen, Floyd, Inman, and Jones, with Jones hopefully limited to special teams. They need one more WR. I am hopeful Inman is good enough to force his way into the top 3, but I don't see how we can count on that at this point. He was very clearly behind Royal last season.

Is he good enough to step into Royal's role? If so, then the team can draft the 4th guy without using a high draft pick.

I suppose the team's actions will be a strong indicator about how they feel about Inman. If they sign one of the free agent veterans they have been hosting and keep Floyd on the roster this year despite his relatively high cap hit, that would seem to indicate they don't feel they can count on Inman as a top 3 guy.

If they do something else, that might indicate confidence in him.
Did the Chargers release Petis?

 
The answer is already on the team and that is Dontrelle Inman. These other guys are on the way out. None has any upside.
As of now, all they have is Allen, Floyd, Inman, and Jones, with Jones hopefully limited to special teams. They need one more WR. I am hopeful Inman is good enough to force his way into the top 3, but I don't see how we can count on that at this point. He was very clearly behind Royal last season.

Is he good enough to step into Royal's role? If so, then the team can draft the 4th guy without using a high draft pick.

I suppose the team's actions will be a strong indicator about how they feel about Inman. If they sign one of the free agent veterans they have been hosting and keep Floyd on the roster this year despite his relatively high cap hit, that would seem to indicate they don't feel they can count on Inman as a top 3 guy.

If they do something else, that might indicate confidence in him.
Did the Chargers release Petis?
Not aware they have, but are you expecting him to make the final roster? I'm not. Wouldn't it be a mild upset for anyone on a reserve/futures contract to make it?

 
Dwayne Bowe is interesting, he wouldnt be terrible on a 1 year deal
I don't think he is a good fit at all. He is known as a guy who doesn't keep himself in shape, and he turns 31 in September. Despite being the #1 WR on a team without a lot of quality targets, over the past 4 seasons, he has just 13 TDs in 59 games. I know part of that recently is Reid/Smith, but not all of it. And his PFF ratings have steadily declined over the past 4 seasons. No thanks.

 
Dwayne Bowe is interesting, he wouldnt be terrible on a 1 year deal
I'd be as excited about Bowe as I would about Reggie Wayne.

As long as there's no signing bonus or guaranteed money, I'd be okay with bringing him in as a training camp body, but I wouldn't necessarily expect him to make the final roster. It's hard for me to envision him beating out Jacoby Jones for the WR4 spot, for example.
So you see Jones as the #4, as opposed to the #5? If so, do you expect the Chargers are done at WR? I was thinking they need another one who would slot in at WR 2/3/4, because I see Jones as #5.

 
Whether Jones is WR4 or WR5 depends on who else they draft or sign or trade for, and how everybody plays during training camp and the preseason, and who gets hurt, etc.

I'm just saying that I think Jones probably offers more value as a WR than Bowe would, even if you don't take special teams into account.

 
ldizzle said:
Gr00vus said:
tommyGunZ said:
Gr00vus said:
I don't think Crabtree brings anything to the team that isn't already provided through Allen, Gates and to some extent Floyd. If they're bringing in another WR it would be nice to diversify a bit.
Like who?
A deep threat speedster type of guy. You know, like Buster Davis.
they should also give vincent brown and robert meachem a look.
I get that in a perfect world, a speedster who stretches the defense would be the best fit considering the strengths of Gates and Allen, but If we prepared to throw $8M at AJohnson I hope we can afford half that for Crabtree.

 
I really don't think Crabtree or Bowe are on their radar. Price would probably be a factor given the fact that other teams like CLE and OAK are more desperate for supposed vet WR1 types. SD does seem to be looking for a WR2/3 vet though given their reported interest in Shorts as well as the recent visit by S Johnson. It doesn't look like they are comfortable letting Inman fill the #3 or they would not be looking to free agency for these sorts of guys, but would be targeting lesser types if anyone at all. Also out there are names like Nicks, Boykin, M Austin, now Jennings, I hope they don't waste their time on names like Denarius Moore, Mike Williams, Reggie Wayne, Wes Welker. Moore and Williams are subtraction by addition, and Wayne/Welker to me are just aging the roster in the name of experience without adding much on field value at this stage of their careers.

i agree with JWB; S Johnson would give them be best combo of ability, reliability, and cost effectiveness. I'd list Shorts above Johnson if he didn't have the injury history, but then again he wouldn't be available in this price range without the injury concerns.

 
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It's odd that Crabtree gets so much vilification. An Achilles injury typically takes significant time to return from and can be career altering, but Crabtree's health and current skillset are ascertainable by appropriate workout. In health Crabtree provides precisely what this offense needs: inside route running skills with quality hands to supplant a significant part of the scheme routes lost with Royal's departure. And in health Crabtree offers more than Shorts, Stevie, Jennings or any of the other available FAs. The supposed "duplication" of Keenan Allen skillset criticized in other posts is odd: running quality patterns isn't disadvantageous.

 
It's odd that Crabtree gets so much vilification. An Achilles injury typically takes significant time to return from and can be career altering, but Crabtree's health and current skillset are ascertainable by appropriate workout. In health Crabtree provides precisely what this offense needs: inside route running skills with quality hands to supplant a significant part of the scheme routes lost with Royal's departure. And in health Crabtree offers more than Shorts, Stevie, Jennings or any of the other available FAs. The supposed "duplication" of Keenan Allen skillset criticized in other posts is odd: running quality patterns isn't disadvantageous.
How does he offer more than Johnson?

 
It's odd that Crabtree gets so much vilification. An Achilles injury typically takes significant time to return from and can be career altering, but Crabtree's health and current skillset are ascertainable by appropriate workout. In health Crabtree provides precisely what this offense needs: inside route running skills with quality hands to supplant a significant part of the scheme routes lost with Royal's departure. And in health Crabtree offers more than Shorts, Stevie, Jennings or any of the other available FAs. The supposed "duplication" of Keenan Allen skillset criticized in other posts is odd: running quality patterns isn't disadvantageous.
How does he offer more than Johnson?
I like Stevie Johnson, but Crabtree is a better WR. Lets not kid ourselves JWB.

 
It's odd that Crabtree gets so much vilification. An Achilles injury typically takes significant time to return from and can be career altering, but Crabtree's health and current skillset are ascertainable by appropriate workout. In health Crabtree provides precisely what this offense needs: inside route running skills with quality hands to supplant a significant part of the scheme routes lost with Royal's departure. And in health Crabtree offers more than Shorts, Stevie, Jennings or any of the other available FAs. The supposed "duplication" of Keenan Allen skillset criticized in other posts is odd: running quality patterns isn't disadvantageous.
How does he offer more than Johnson?
I like Stevie Johnson, but Crabtree is a better WR. Lets not kid ourselves JWB.
I did some research and started writing out a longer response, but deleted it. Here is what it comes down to:

1. Assuming his price is reasonable, the Chargers should sign Crabtree if they believe he will be able to perform at the level he did in 2012 while under contract to the Chargers.

2. Otherwise, Johnson is a better signing, especially since it seems likely he would be cheaper.

Johnson has never approached the level of performance Crabtree had in 2012, but Johnson has otherwise been consistently better than Crabtree from 2010 to 2014, despite the fact that he drops too many balls. Based on the evidence we have, it seems unlikely Crabtree will achieve his 2012 performance again going forward.

I'm not sure if your post is based solely on Crabtree's 2012 season or on other factors. As far as I can tell, Crabtree has better hands, and I am willing to believe he probably runs better routes, yet Johnson's production has been virtually identical to Crabtree's over the past 5 years. So why gamble that Crabtree will regain his form when the team could just sign Johnson?

 
Gachkar signed with Dallas. That is disappointing, though I understand the team may not have been able to afford to pay him what Dallas did given what they have invested in Butler.

LBs have to be a concern at this point. Compared to last season:

Freeney is a UFA and Telesco has said he won't be back.

Johnson retired.

Gachkar left via free agency.

Walker was released.

I'm fine with releasing Walker, as he wasn't very good. But the others were all productive. But just being down 4 LB bodies from last season elevates this as an area of need.

Unfortunately, their performance also needs major improvement. Consider:

8 players took snaps at OLB for the Chargers last season, including Freeney, Johnson, and Walker. Freeney and Law (though on just 76 snaps) were the only ones from the group with positive overall PFF grades, and Johnson was easily the best run defender from the group.

5 players took snaps at ILB for the Chargers last season, including Gachkar and Walker. Teo, Gachkar, and Walker (though on just 60 snaps), were head and shoulders better than Butler and Conner. Of course, almost everyone in the NFL was better than Butler -- he ranked as the 3rd worst in the league and may have been the worst had he not missed so many snaps.

I hope Nolan can work some magic here, but the team is going to have to bring in some more players at the position.

 
It's odd that Crabtree gets so much vilification. An Achilles injury typically takes significant time to return from and can be career altering, but Crabtree's health and current skillset are ascertainable by appropriate workout. In health Crabtree provides precisely what this offense needs: inside route running skills with quality hands to supplant a significant part of the scheme routes lost with Royal's departure. And in health Crabtree offers more than Shorts, Stevie, Jennings or any of the other available FAs. The supposed "duplication" of Keenan Allen skillset criticized in other posts is odd: running quality patterns isn't disadvantageous.
How does he offer more than Johnson?
Better route runner, better hands and, far more importantly, his most effective patterns are the inside routes now missing from the Chargers' scheme with the loss of Royal. Comparing Stevie's numbers from Buffalo in Chan Gailey's scheme with Crabtree's in the 9rs run heavy scheme is interesting math, but tells you nothing about either receiver's likely production in a different scheme.
 
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Unflattering article by Kevin Acee, respected Chargers beat writer:

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2015/mar/15/chargers-confusing-free-agency-acee/

So far, Chargers losing the offseason

The Indianapolis Colts evidently don’t think getting to the AFC Championship game is good enough.

Maybe the Chargers can grab some of Indianapolis' current players in a few years – to help build around their quarterback, Marcus Mariota.

The Colts have been to the postseason three straight years and have made March moves clearly aimed at trying to make sure they continue their momentum.

Indianapolis' signings – Frank Gore, Andre Johnson and Trent Cole – are not guaranteed to get them a step further. But general manager Ryan Grigson is being unquestionably bold as he tries to better what was already a really good team.

Meanwhile, Chargers G.M. Tom Telesco, two years removed from being Grigson’s chief lieutenant, continues to follow the example of another one of his former bosses, Bill Polian, who views free agency the way Dean Spanos views Mission Valley. As in, well, maybe, and only if he has to.

Polian will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in August. His 2006 Colts team won a Super Bowl, and he built rosters that made five others. That’s a good guy to emulate.

But Telesco didn't need to simply make a few tweaks to a winner, and the timing seemed right for us to rightly expect more than what has happened.

We weren’t talking A.J. Preller-type seismic activity, just something much more than a typical A.J. Smith offseason.

The Chargers entered the free agency period with enough room under the salary cap to do whatever they wanted. And they’ve wanted to do more than they have been able to, even if they are putting on happy faces about the current state of affairs.

They can say they like their team, but they know it must be much better than it is now to make the postseason and compete with the likes of the Colts.

The Chargers are coming off a second straight 9-7 season. They are not currently better than they were when they walked off the field in Kansas City on Dec. 28, so close yet so far from making the postseason. They are, by many measures, worse.

They will get a weapon back in Danny Woodhead. Their offensive line appears to be improved. Other than that, the Chargers are in regression. They need a starting running back and another impact receiver. They've done nothing to strengthen their defensive front. They are desperate for depth all over the defense.

The draft, in theory, could leave us speechless. Theoretically, a blockbuster trade could be engineered.

Someone on the second floor at Chargers Park pointed out Saturday that the offseason is not over. But, but …

What are we doing?

That sums up – and in some cases precisely quotes – the tweets and e-mails from fans and the texts from players this past week.

The Chargers have done well to keep their own, locking up left tackle King Dunlap and cornerback Brandon Flowers. They also presumably got better at left guard with the signing of former Denver Bronco Orlando Franklin and necessarily enhanced the return game with Jacoby Jones, the former Baltimore Ravens wideout. Jimmy Wilson, a guy Telesco has long liked, will be given every opportunity to be the starting strong safety.

Look, it’s not that Telesco has been vacationing.

The Chargers made at least some advances toward Ndamukong Suh, the top available free agent. They talked about Randall Cobb. They offered Johnson more money than he got from the Colts.

It hasn’t worked out.

And there aren’t a whole lot of game-changing players left on the market.

Super Bowls aren’t won in March. But Super Bowl-contending teams are re-tooled at this time. It’s been disheartening to see what other teams are doing.

The Seattle Seahawks, seconds from winning their second straight Super Bowl in February, last week traded for tight end Jimmy Graham. The Buffalo Bills and Miami Dolphins are attempting to loosen New England’s viselike grip on the AFC East with a slew of moves. The St. Louis Rams aren’t sitting back in a tough division and shrugging their shoulders. The Philadelphia Eagles let a lot of production get away but made the signings to replace it.

Arguably, the biggest news the Chargers have made was in the revelation they’re going to conduct a private pre-draft workout with Mariota, the Oregon quarterback expected to be taken early in the first round.

Weird.

Consider that the franchise quarterback is entering the final year of his contract and is eyeing everything you do this offseason as he decides whether he wants to continue his Super Bowl quest in San Diego (or Los Angeles).

Even understanding the need for due diligence – the Chargers have worked out quarterbacks before during Rivers’ tenure -- going to that length with a first-round QB is a head-scratcher.

But, then, this Chargers offseason is confusing.

 
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The Colts signed a bunch of old guys and that's the blueprint the Chargers should be following? :loco:
Yeah I dont get his article, Flowers and Franklin were good moves.

Signing Suh wasnt going to happen, look at what miami gave him

Cobb would of been nice but he gave GB a discount.

small move to get a strong saftey was nice by SD as well.

 
The Colts signed a bunch of old guys and that's the blueprint the Chargers should be following? :loco:
Not even old guys on a discount, that want a shot at a ring, they paid top dollar for those guys.

Colts front office has a lot to prove, the fact that Luck was available when they were the worst team in the league doesn't mean they know what they're doing.

 
I wouldn't get hung up on FS vs. SS. They're basically the same position in this defense.

 
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The Colts signed a bunch of old guys and that's the blueprint the Chargers should be following? :loco:
Not even old guys on a discount, that want a shot at a ring, they paid top dollar for those guys.

Colts front office has a lot to prove, the fact that Luck was available when they were the worst team in the league doesn't mean they know what they're doing.
AJ - 2 years/$15M with a 3rd year option at $6M

Gore - 2 years/$8.5M with a 3rd year option at $3.5M

 
I wouldn't get hung up on FS vs. SS. They're basicall the same position in this defense.
OK, well Wilson has 4 career starts at FS, so 5 total starts at safety. Per PFF, he has played a total of 333 snaps at safety, all last season.

According to their grades for his play at safety, he was good in coverage (+3.5) but poor at run defense (-1.7). He made 24 tackles but missed 6, which probably contributed to the poor grade on run defense. And, although his coverage at FS was good, he played 458 snaps at CB last season and was awful in coverage (-5.6 for coverage and -2.3 for penalties).

So, again, IMO it is hard to call this a good move if the idea is that he will be a starting safety. I would be fine with having him as a depth player, but they paid him too much for that.

I suppose there is a good chance he will be better than Gilchrist, but that is only because that is a very low bar.

 
Personally I would be happiest with Stevie J or Shorts over Crabtree, but since a lot of you shot holes in my reasoning I will conceded that I wouldnt hate crabtree as much as I would have before.

And I just saw that Stevie is expected to sign with NE, and Shorts to sign with Houston.

And the Acee article made no sense to me. Chargers arent a SB team, yet. Signing aging former studs isnt going to get them there. Build with good signings and the draft. They needs guys they arent going to replace in 1-2 years.

 
From PFF's Free Agent Bargains to be Had:

With Free Agency almost a week old, we’ve seen plenty of big moves and some massive contracts being handed out. That’s always exciting, but in truth, Super Bowl-winning teams are built just as much from having solid player who complement the stars as they are from those big name players.

That’s where teams can really help themselves in free agency, but picking up a starter or two who can really help out without a huge payday. There are still some high profile free agents out there, but here are 10 players we feel would make sensible additions which won’t break the bank

...

Mike Pollak, Guard

Any team looking for a starting calibre guard out there could do a lot worse than to take a look at Pollak. He’s finished every season from 2010 onward with a positive grade, looking strong both as a run blocker and as a pass blocker. He also comes with the flexibility of having started at both left and right guard in 2014.

Brian De la Puente, Center

De La Puente started at both center and guard for the Chicago Bears in 2014 but didn’t look comfortable in his first start at guard in Week 11. He’s a solid center though, and finished 2014 as our seventh-highest graded player at the position, despite playing just 320 snaps there.

Tommy Kelly, Defensive Interior

Kelly isn’t going to give you a standout defensive lineman who can be a constant menace to opposing offensive lines, and his play in 2014 was up and down, but he still has something to offer for the right team. Our 17th-highest-graded 3-4 defensive end in 2014, he produced 41 total pressures from 424 pass rushing snaps andtied for the seventh best Pass Rushing Productivity Rating (PRP) at the position.

Dwight Freeney, Edge Defender

Even if all Dwight Freeney is these days is a situational pass rusher, brought in on obvious pass rushing situations, he looks like he’ll be a smart pickup for a team at some point this offseason. Only six 3-4 outside linebackers had a higher pass rushing grade than him, and his PRP of 11.0 was sixth best at the position. With plenty of pass rush-needy teams out there, he makes a lot of sense in a lot of destinations.

Rolando McClain, Linebacker

McClain’s off field struggles have been well-documented throughout the year, and perhaps that’s scaring some teams off, but on the field it’s hard to argue that he’d help out a team needing a linebacker who is stout against the run. A well-rounded 2014, grading positively against the run, in coverage and as a pass rusher, will draw someone to take a chance on him again in 2015.

...
All of these guys should be under consideration by the Chargers.

I realize Telesco has said the team won't bring back Freeney, but perhaps he should reconsider.

Signing Pollak or De la Puente would mean keeping Fluker at T, but that seems to be what the team is planning.

 
The Colts signed a bunch of old guys and that's the blueprint the Chargers should be following? :loco:
Not even old guys on a discount, that want a shot at a ring, they paid top dollar for those guys.

Colts front office has a lot to prove, the fact that Luck was available when they were the worst team in the league doesn't mean they know what they're doing.
AJ - 2 years/$15M with a 3rd year option at $6M

Gore - 2 years/$8.5M with a 3rd year option at $3.5M
Well that's $7.5mil for a 35yo Johnson and $4mil for a 33yo Gore(without a million miles on his wheels) in 2016. OR their production falls off a cliff and they are on the hook for more than $5mil. Throw in a (32yo) Trent Cole who isn't cheap either. If I were INDY I'd be trying to surround him with guys like Jabaal Sheard and Brandon Graham instead. I just don't get it because they are looking at a 8-10 year window with Luck.

 
Unflattering article by Kevin Acee, respected Chargers beat writer:

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2015/mar/15/chargers-confusing-free-agency-acee/
Good article on why Acee's preferred approach of making a big splash in free agency is stupid:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ndamukong-suh-is-cursed/
I would make sure to include the quotes on "respected Chargers beat writer" too. He really got exposed during the end of the Vincent Jackson years that he doesn't have all that much inside information and even his analysis of the team isn't all that special.

That one chart in MT's article really says it all. The one big FA that had a big positive impact on the record of a team was Sidney Rice, and he just happened to get signed when the entire team was turning around(especially the defense and running game). Rice himself was even a big disappointment. Recalculate the charge excluding Rice and things look much more bleak for big spenders.

 
I don't think Crabtree brings anything to the team that isn't already provided through Allen, Gates and to some extent Floyd.
Well, if Floyd and Gates were 27 with no injury history I wouldn't think SD should really worry all that much about the WR position in the first place. I have no idea when the big drop-off is coming for those guys but I'd be willing to bet it's soon. Many think L.Green is ready to replace a HOF TE but I'd like to see that guy catch 20 passes in a season before I believe it.

 
Dwayne Bowe is interesting, he wouldnt be terrible on a 1 year deal
I'd be as excited about Bowe as I would about Reggie Wayne.

As long as there's no signing bonus or guaranteed money, I'd be okay with bringing him in as a training camp body, but I wouldn't necessarily expect him to make the final roster. It's hard for me to envision him beating out Jacoby Jones for the WR4 spot, for example.
That is a shocking post.

I know it's very early and you haven't come anywhere near making projections MT, but given the current WR situation and assuming a rookie from the back half of the first round that probably doesn't contribute much..... what is your range of expected production from Jacoby Jones at the WR position this year?

 
Gachkar signed with Dallas. That is disappointing, though I understand the team may not have been able to afford to pay him what Dallas did given what they have invested in Butler.

LBs have to be a concern at this point. Compared to last season:
I think there are so many other glaring holes(C, NT, S for instance) that don't have an NFL caliber player that LB may get slightly overlooked. Before FA started I was hoping they'd target Jabaal Sheard and he signed a pretty reasonable 2yr/$11mil but that may have been on a discount to SB winner NE. The signing that really raised my eyebrows was Arthur Moats in PIT for 3yr/$7.5mil... especially considering they just lost Worilds. Moats could have provided depth at ILB and very easily could have beaten out the disappointing Attaochu as a starting OLB. I'm not as down as you are as Connor as a backup ILB in a league where the nickel defense is played more and more. The third CB matters to me much more than the third ILB. That's why the Jimmy Wilson isn't very exciting as a signing but in a world where Shareece Wright signs for $3-4mil/season ANY CB is going to get paid.

 
Gachkar signed with Dallas. That is disappointing, though I understand the team may not have been able to afford to pay him what Dallas did given what they have invested in Butler.

LBs have to be a concern at this point. Compared to last season:
I think there are so many other glaring holes(C, NT, S for instance) that don't have an NFL caliber player that LB may get slightly overlooked. Before FA started I was hoping they'd target Jabaal Sheard and he signed a pretty reasonable 2yr/$11mil but that may have been on a discount to SB winner NE. The signing that really raised my eyebrows was Arthur Moats in PIT for 3yr/$7.5mil... especially considering they just lost Worilds. Moats could have provided depth at ILB and very easily could have beaten out the disappointing Attaochu as a starting OLB. I'm not as down as you are as Connor as a backup ILB in a league where the nickel defense is played more and more. The third CB matters to me much more than the third ILB. That's why the Jimmy Wilson isn't very exciting as a signing but in a world where Shareece Wright signs for $3-4mil/season ANY CB is going to get paid.
yeah im sure some in here will geek out with advanced metrics or whatever but it seems like when I watched Gachkar made good plays, liked him as a depth guy

 
I suppose there is a good chance he will be better than Gilchrist, but that is only because that is a very low bar.
I completely agree with JWB here.

AJ had to go because he simply refused to even try to improve the OL. At least Telesco has tried to make some steps, but he needs to do more.

Telesco does have his own issues where he seems to squint really hard, and peek between his fingers to decide.... yeah, Gilchrist sort of looks like an NFL starting S. Yeah, Lissemore is a starting NT in the NFL. Johnny Troutman.... well, he couldn't beat out Clary but I bet he could start at OG in the NFL. Please, please don't convince yourself Chris Watt is a starting NFL center. At least not yet he isn't.

 
Signing Pollak or De la Puente would mean keeping Fluker at T, but that seems to be what the team is planning.
I've been saying for two years now the Chargers should run to sign DeLaPuenta. Last year was out of the question, of course, because he was paid $800k. Hmmmmm, I wonder if having DeLaPuenta last season would have been worth all that money?

These are the days of the year that keep SD from being a team that can get deep in the playoffs. It's not the first few days of FA that matters(as the MT article points out). Just signing guys like DeLaPuenta and Will Montgomery for small deals would have had a HUGE impact on the Chargers last season.

BTW that article was pretty good. Not only Pollak and DeLaPuenta but I have thought both Landry and Jackson would be strong moves before the draft.

 
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Gachkar signed with Dallas. That is disappointing, though I understand the team may not have been able to afford to pay him what Dallas did given what they have invested in Butler.

LBs have to be a concern at this point. Compared to last season:
I think there are so many other glaring holes(C, NT, S for instance) that don't have an NFL caliber player that LB may get slightly overlooked. Before FA started I was hoping they'd target Jabaal Sheard and he signed a pretty reasonable 2yr/$11mil but that may have been on a discount to SB winner NE. The signing that really raised my eyebrows was Arthur Moats in PIT for 3yr/$7.5mil... especially considering they just lost Worilds. Moats could have provided depth at ILB and very easily could have beaten out the disappointing Attaochu as a starting OLB. I'm not as down as you are as Connor as a backup ILB in a league where the nickel defense is played more and more. The third CB matters to me much more than the third ILB. That's why the Jimmy Wilson isn't very exciting as a signing but in a world where Shareece Wright signs for $3-4mil/season ANY CB is going to get paid.
I like Attaochu, a lot. I think he'll be a monster this coming year.

 
I suppose there is a good chance he will be better than Gilchrist, but that is only because that is a very low bar.
I completely agree with JWB here.

AJ had to go because he simply refused to even try to improve the OL. At least Telesco has tried to make some steps, but he needs to do more.

Telesco does have his own issues where he seems to squint really hard, and peek between his fingers to decide.... yeah, Gilchrist sort of looks like an NFL starting S. Yeah, Lissemore is a starting NT in the NFL. Johnny Troutman.... well, he couldn't beat out Clary but I bet he could start at OG in the NFL. Please, please don't convince yourself Chris Watt is a starting NFL center. At least not yet he isn't.
Based on things Telesco has said, I think the team views Watt as their center going forward. Telesco has also been quoted as saying Troutman is the starting RG. I hope some of this is just him saying what he has to say until he acquires one or more alternatives. But I'm worried it isn't...

 

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