2016 Bloom 100 & Dr. Jene Combine draft board 100 (1 Viewer)

[Bracie Smathers]

Hadn't seen a thread, sorry if Honda.

Only sharing Bloom's top-ten, go to the links for both full reads.

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/article.php?article=bloom100postdraft2016


2016 POST DRAFT BLOOM 100


A look at the top 100 prospects in IDP dynasty rookie drafts now that we know their destinations.
by Sigmund Bloom, May 2
1(1). Ezekiel Elliott, RB, DAL - Cha-ching! Be willing to overpay for this pick. I would value Elliott just below Todd Gurley and Le’Veon Bell in both redraft and dynasty.

2(2). Laquon Treadwell, WR, MIN - Treadwell landed in a terrific spot. Norv Turner knows to feed a #1. I don’t hesitate to slot him #2 and traded Corey Coleman for him straight up this morning.

3(4). Corey Coleman, WR, CLE - Coleman’s ceiling isn’t far below Treadwell’s, if it is at all. Cleveland’s quarterback situation is more dire, although at least Hue Jackson is an offensive-minded coach. If you’re excited enough about Coleman to take him #2, I won’t talk you out of it.

4(3). Josh Doctson, WR, WAS - Doctson’s talent is on Coleman’s level, but he doesn’t have as clear a path to role where he monopolizes targets. The quality of the pass offense and age of the starting wide receivers will allow us to see just how good Doctson can be early on.

5(5). Sterling Shepard, WR, NYG - Odell Beckham will cap Shepard’s ceiling while still greatly raising his floor. Shepard as a talent isn’t far off of the top four, and his situation is fine. Shepard landing with the Giants created sigh of relief if you own 1.5.

6(6). Michael Thomas, WR, NO - Thomas has latent upside coming out of a remedial pass offense. Now he’s in one of the highest volume pass offenses in the league. He should pass Brandon Coleman by the end of the year and hurts Willie Sneadand Coby Fleener long term.

**At this point in a rookie draft, I would be working the trade desk phones. Firsts still have a psychological premium because of the label, and some might think, the more darts the better. Even if 2017 picks can’t be acquired, veterans and underperforming youngsters still present good targets.**

7(7). Leonte Carroo, WR, MIA - I still think Carroo can be a good #2, but in this offense with Jarvis Landry, that really means the targets of a #3. If DeVante Parker busts, we might be in business, but Carroo’s ceiling is still relatively low for 1.7.

8(11). Devontae Booker, RB, DEN - The Broncos had Booker #2 on their board at running back, and C.J. Anderson still hasn’t put a whole season together. It’s not hard to imagine the team seeing Booker above Anderson if the rookie stays off of the injury report (which is not a given) and the veteran doesn’t. The situation is also fantastic on a winning, defensive-driven team.

9(10). Kenneth Dixon, RB, BAL - Dixon has a pretty clear path to being a lead back with Justin Forsett on his last leg and neither of the Ravens fourth-round backs from the last two years turning heads. Think Fred Jackson. Not a terrible consolation for a late first.

10(9). Malcolm Mitchell, WR, NE - Mitchell lands in a great pass offense with an aging, but great quarterback and lots of opportunity on the outside. I’m a little spooked about talk that some teams liked him more as a corner and the Patriots might see that as a fall back plan. Not a terrible consolation for a late first.

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/article.php?article=16bramel_combined_rookie_board_1.0


COMBINED ROOKIE DRAFT BOARD 1.0


A visual look at a full offense-IDP rookie draft board with position-by-position commentary
by Jene Bramel, May 1

 

[mikel2014]

89(61). Pharoh Cooper, WR, LA

Why drop from 61 to 89 while being a 4th round pick with very little competition for targets? Here's the list of non-IDP players ranked above him. I don't think there's any convincing me of Cooper being behind that entire group.

68(84). Rico Gathers, TE, DAL
69(69). Marquez North, WR, LA
70(77). Dak Prescott, QB, DAL
71(65). Canaan Severin, WR, PIT
78(UR). Cody Core, WR, CIN
80(UR). Seth Devalve, TE, CLE
81(99). Devon Johnson, RB, CAR
82(UR). Temarrick Hemingway, TE, LA
83(54). Peyton Barber, RB, TB
84(80). Christian Hackenberg, QB, NYJ
85(56). Mitch Mathews, WR, KC
87(UR). Trevor Davis, WR, GB
88(59). Tajae Sharpe, WR, TEN

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

89(61). Pharoh Cooper, WR, LA

Why drop from 61 to 89 while being a 4th round pick with very little competition for targets? Here's the list of non-IDP players ranked above him. I don't think there's any convincing me of Cooper being behind that entire group.

68(84). Rico Gathers, TE, DAL
69(69). Marquez North, WR, LA
70(77). Dak Prescott, QB, DAL
71(65). Canaan Severin, WR, PIT
78(UR). Cody Core, WR, CIN
80(UR). Seth Devalve, TE, CLE
81(99). Devon Johnson, RB, CAR
82(UR). Temarrick Hemingway, TE, LA
83(54). Peyton Barber, RB, TB
84(80). Christian Hackenberg, QB, NYJ
85(56). Mitch Mathews, WR, KC
87(UR). Trevor Davis, WR, GB
88(59). Tajae Sharpe, WR, TEN

You're basically looking for spit shine on a turd at that point in the rookie draft anyway.

 

[BoltBacker]

89(61). Pharoh Cooper, WR, LA

Why drop from 61 to 89 while being a 4th round pick with very little competition for targets? Here's the list of non-IDP players ranked above him. I don't think there's any convincing me of Cooper being behind that entire group.

Depends on the type of the league you are in imo.

If you are in a mega-deep league(say 18+ teams) with large starting rosters the lack of competition for targets is a decent argument. Problem is most people don't play in those leagues. Most people are more likely to play in a 10-12 team league with a small number of starters. In those leagues, even if Cooper was somehow able to eek out a start due to injury..... would you ever really start him? The Rams were passing less than 30 times per game.... and that was when they missed Gurley for half the year. How many times will they pass with a rookie QB and Gurley playing a full season? 

I like Cooper, felt like he was a steal in the NFL draft. But if he would have been taken by NO, NE, SD, DET, etc.... at least you could hope that you catch lightning in a bottle and somehow he cracks the starting lineup due to injuries in front of him. THEN you would consider starting him in a 40+ pass/game offense. There is an outside chance Cooper ends up as the clear cut #1 WR in LA.... but what does that really mean? Britt has been the clear cut #1 for awhile and I don't see a stampede of folks trying to pick that guy in many drafts. 

 

[mikel2014]

Depends on the type of the league you are in imo.

If you are in a mega-deep league(say 18+ teams) with large starting rosters the lack of competition for targets is a decent argument. Problem is most people don't play in those leagues. Most people are more likely to play in a 10-12 team league with a small number of starters. In those leagues, even if Cooper was somehow able to eek out a start due to injury..... would you ever really start him? The Rams were passing less than 30 times per game.... and that was when they missed Gurley for half the year. How many times will they pass with a rookie QB and Gurley playing a full season? 

I like Cooper, felt like he was a steal in the NFL draft. But if he would have been taken by NO, NE, SD, DET, etc.... at least you could hope that you catch lightning in a bottle and somehow he cracks the starting lineup due to injuries in front of him. THEN you would consider starting him in a 40+ pass/game offense. There is an outside chance Cooper ends up as the clear cut #1 WR in LA.... but what does that really mean? Britt has been the clear cut #1 for awhile and I don't see a stampede of folks trying to pick that guy in many drafts. 

The point isn't that Cooper is a lock to be start-able this year or even the next couple. The point is that his chances of doing so are incredibly higher than undrafted guys like Canaan Severin. There are actually some pretty impressive numbers about guys who contributed in multiple facets of the game (rushing, receiving, punt returns, kick return) like Pharoh Cooper has. Plus, we're talking dynasty here. This isn't a matter of depending on a 2nd or 3rd round rookie pick to start. It's picking guys who are likely to turn into players with value (either production value or trade value). I can't justify Pharoh Cooper at 89 and would be very interested to here the argument for him so low. 

Also your main focus is on the Rams offense, which has undergone a complete overhaul in all skill positions the last two years. I've seen too many arguments lately focused on doubting current situations based on past situations.  The Rams 2015 offense led by Nick Foles and Case Keenum has very little to do with the future of the Rams led by Jared Goff. Coaches are forced to adjust their gameplans based on what their team is capable of. We don't know what Goff's potential is, but I'm not going to bet on 2015 Nick Foles being his outcome. 

 

[BoltBacker]

Also your main focus is on the Rams offense, which has undergone a complete overhaul in all skill positions the last two years. I've seen too many arguments lately focused on doubting current situations based on past situations.  The Rams 2015 offense led by Nick Foles and Case Keenum has very little to do with the future of the Rams led by Jared Goff. Coaches are forced to adjust their gameplans based on what their team is capable of. We don't know what Goff's potential is, but I'm not going to bet on 2015 Nick Foles being his outcome. 

That's fair. But I think it's reasonable to expect for the Rams offense for the foreseeable future to be heavily run based unless you expect Gurley to have a major injury. That's not based on what the Rams offense was two years ago, that's based on the strengths of their team(Gurley) and the type of young OL they have assembled. 

Overall, I think you are arguing Cooper(unknown) if going to do well because he has Goff(unknown) throwing him the ball and the offense won't completely revolve around Gurley(known) and a strong defense(known) going forward.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

What a gorgeous offering.