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2017-18 NBA (Playoffs): A gasping, wheezing thread begs message board poster arguing how Jordan never lost a Finals to just let it die in peace (2 Viewers)

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Eminence said:
I'm just saying, first she tags me in a comment in as a punchline to an unemployment joke. Which I let slide because whatever. Then instead of having a conversation with me about Porzingis as a player...

She responds with emojis mocking me, but clearly I'm the one incapable of having a normal conversation. 
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you can take the high road sometimes. grow thicker skin.

 
Boston said:
I heard the interview with Trautwig and Phil and he said no one ever skipped one of these with him before...sounded pretty arrogant about it as well...he is such a loose cannon...I can't believe one of his reasons for dealing his best asset (by far) is an exit interview...
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Yeah someone dug up an old article about Shaq skipping it in reference to that claim.

What's amazing is that Phil is doing the same thing here that he did with Carmelo. Just outwardly attempting to lessen or outright kill trade value by publicly bashing the player and citing his weaknesses/concerns. 

 
I already said I was sorry for engaging you in the 1st place, I didn't realize you had such thin skin. I am sorry again, go away and let us have our fun.

 
RUSF18 said:
Yeah someone dug up an old article about Shaq skipping it in reference to that claim.

What's amazing is that Phil is doing the same thing here that he did with Carmelo. Just outwardly attempting to lessen or outright kill trade value by publicly bashing the player and citing his weaknesses/concerns. 
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phil is trumpesque, ADD, cant shut up for his own good, thinks he's the smartest man in the room, refuses to put in the work.

 
The Unicorn is not a great fit for the Celts because, with our Leprechaun, we'd then have two starters who cant man up on D (besides the cap penalties for having more than one mythical creature on a team) but i still want him because he opens up the offense with the most unstoppable pop this side of KD and can close several plays a game from the weakside on defense. #3 and the Jersey pick or Crowder-or-Brown/#3/LA pick is as high as i'd go tho

 
wikkidpissah said:
The Unicorn is not a great fit for the Celts because, with our Leprechaun, we'd then have two starters who cant man up on D (besides the cap penalties for having more than one mythical creature on a team) but i still want him because he opens up the offense with the most unstoppable pop this side of KD and can close several plays a game from the weakside on defense. #3 and the Jersey pick or Crowder-or-Brown/#3/LA pick is as high as i'd go tho
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:lmao:

 
wikkidpissah said:
The Unicorn is not a great fit for the Celts because, with our Leprechaun, we'd then have two starters who cant man up on D (besides the cap penalties for having more than one mythical creature on a team) but i still want him because he opens up the offense with the most unstoppable pop this side of KD and can close several plays a game from the weakside on defense. #3 and the Jersey pick or Crowder-or-Brown/#3/LA pick is as high as i'd go tho
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Jayrod said:
:lmao:
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My thoughts exactly.

 
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wikkidpissah said:
The Unicorn is not a great fit for the Celts because, with our Leprechaun, we'd then have two starters who cant man up on D (besides the cap penalties for having more than one mythical creature on a team) but i still want him because he opens up the offense with the most unstoppable pop this side of KD and can close several plays a game from the weakside on defense. #3 and the Jersey pick or Crowder-or-Brown/#3/LA pick is as high as i'd go tho
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Just imagine if they add one of those yetis discussed earlier in the thread.

 
the only thing phil has done remotely right is not trade #1s.  selena hernangomez can play, but that is offset by the noah deal.  and please, will someone sign our stinking rose so phil cant!

 
Chemical X said:
the only thing phil has done remotely right is not trade #1s.  selena hernangomez can play, but that is offset by the noah deal.  and please, will someone sign our stinking rose so phil cant!
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That's just because he couldn't. They had already traded away their 2016 #1 in the Bargnani deal, so he had to hold onto 2015 (KP) and this year's. I'm sure 2018 will go soon enough.

 
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The Celtics offered the Knicks their No. 3 pick, a player and an additional lottery pick for Kristaps Porzingis, according to Ian Begley of ESPN NY.

This isn't too far off from what the NY Daily News said the Knicks are asking for: No. 3, the Nets pick next year, Jae Crowder and Jaylen Brown. Considering the Knicks are rebuilding, it makes very little sense for them to acquire the bargain contract of Crowder, unless they're going to trade that away in a future deal. Porzingis has clearly become the hot target for teams and has passed Jimmy Butler. The Celtics appear to be closest on making a deal. Stay tuned.
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Earlier it was discussed that the Celtics were trying to acquire another lottery pick this year - it may be part of a Porzingis deal.

 
Courtjester said:
I don't know why I am looking forward to tonight. Denver is actually putting together a nice group of young players (hopefully will add Collins or maybe OG tonight) but the best case scenario is a 6-8 playoff spot and a first round exit.

Then management will do as they have since the beginning of time with this team, lose patience, trade assets, tank and then try and rebuild--rinse and repeat. It is so cute the Denver media thinks this team has a shot at Butler or CP3 signing here. It is really frustrating being a Nuggets or any 2nd-3rd tier team. Frankly with the direction the league is going with the super team idea, they should just downsize to like 12 teams and have like 6 all-star games played around the league each night. 

Oh and I know :cry:  just to save you guys the trouble  :P

But here's to an excuse to drink beer tonight. 
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I'm really hoping they trade up to get Issac, but I doubt it will happen. If they stay at 13 I want them to grab OG. I think his floor is Andre Roberson with a slightly less busted jumper. Something I don't ever see mentioned is that even though he is a sophomore, he still isn't 20 and is younger than TJ Leaf, Bam Adebayo, Justin Patton, Markkanen, and Jackson who are all projected in the first round as freshman. (Small side note, how the #### are there freshman who are over 20 years old already. In Colorado the cut-off for school was August when I was growing up - now it is October, so the oldest kids in my HS would have been 2 full months short of 20 right now as college freshman.)

This offseason I'm really hoping they get Millsap on a three year deal. As long as they don't give him a fourth year, the money is pretty much irrelevant. I would also like for them to start consolidating assets, even if it is only a moderate upgrade at a position. Having 10-12 guys on the roster who all want and deserve playing time is a problem. Ideally, I would love to see Crowder as the starting 3, but not sure what we could offer Boston.

 
Chemical X said:
and not for nothing, for a guy that misses chunks of seasons, joel embiid sure does yap alot  why not play more than 31 games then you can blabber about.. 
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:boxing:  

i'd rather hear from Embiid for a year then our president's twitter.

guy has personality, can't hate him for it

 
Capella said:
People get tied into terms like the #1 pick and top-5 pick without applying names and actual worth to it. What are the odds Fultz ends up better than Porzingis? I'd say pretty low, and no matter what we already know he can play and dominate in the league. Not saying Philly should trade for him as he makes less sense there, but Boston damn sure should have given up the #1 and something else for him. 
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I would put it above 50/50.

Porzingas has a very intriguing skill set and he is still very young, but outside of his first couple months as a rookie he has been a mostly average player with a very unorthodox game. That might be the product of the Knicks and their terrible brand of basketball, but he is nowhere near the level of some of the other young big in the NBA (KAT, Jokic, Embiid). At this point of his career he is moderately high usage, moderately low efficiency scorer that has a lot of empty calories on defense and rebounds poorly compared to his peers. I've said that I like him in this thread and I think he has a very good career ahead of him, but he needs a lot of work before he is an all-nba type player.

 
Eminence said:
I'm just saying, first she tags me in a comment as a punchline to an unemployment joke. Which I let slide because whatever. Then instead of having a conversation with me about Porzingis as a player...

She responds with emojis mocking me, but clearly I'm the one incapable of having a normal conversation. 
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Get a load of this freaking guy.

 
I apologize to all the good posters  of this thread and ask for forgiveness. I tried to be funny and I failed and brought misery to this thread. 

 
I'm excited to see the Celtics trade down to 4 then 4 then 6 and still get the player they want while adding more picks. 

 
Kev4029 said:
I would put it above 50/50.

Porzingas has a very intriguing skill set and he is still very young, but outside of his first couple months as a rookie he has been a mostly average player with a very unorthodox game. That might be the product of the Knicks and their terrible brand of basketball, but he is nowhere near the level of some of the other young big in the NBA (KAT, Jokic, Embiid). At this point of his career he is moderately high usage, moderately low efficiency scorer that has a lot of empty calories on defense and rebounds poorly compared to his peers. I've said that I like him in this thread and I think he has a very good career ahead of him, but he needs a lot of work before he is an all-nba type player.
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what i would say about that is that KP was severely hampered being paired with melo and rose.  he regressed last year and rightly so with 2 ball black holes on the floor.  he is 7'3" and runs the floor, has a real good handle and shoots the 3.  he needs a pass first PG that can kick and a low post guy that will draw a double.  he reminds me of dirk, who won with Kidd.  though he is 7'3" he is not a C and he wont be posting huge rebound numbers if he is guarding a 3 or stretch 4.  hgomez seemed a good rebounder, but not a rim protector.  they need a PG and to find a home for melo.  problem is, his game fits nowhere and with no one, which speaks volumes about his value.

 
Chemical X said:
what i would say about that is that KP was severely hampered being paired with melo and rose.  he regressed last year and rightly so with 2 ball black holes on the floor.  he is 7'3" and runs the floor, has a real good handle and shoots the 3.  he needs a pass first PG that can kick and a low post guy that will draw a double.  he reminds me of dirk, who won with Kidd.  though he is 7'3" he is not a C and he wont be posting huge rebound numbers if he is guarding a 3 or stretch 4.  hgomez seemed a good rebounder, but not a rim protector.  they need a PG and to find a home for melo.  problem is, his game fits nowhere and with no one, which speaks volumes about his value.
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the Knicks have to be bottom 4 or 5 franchise right now in terms of outlook for the next 5-8 years no? I mean there is kind of no way they get better and if they can avoid getting worse, at best i think i think they are barely a playoff team. It is good Jackson hasn't sold his future 1st round picks, but the Knicks have so far to go you can't even see a path.

in the meantime, here is something to kill some time before the draft:  http://hinkie.theringer.com/

 
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Chemical X said:
what i would say about that is that KP was severely hampered being paired with melo and rose.  he regressed last year and rightly so with 2 ball black holes on the floor.  he is 7'3" and runs the floor, has a real good handle and shoots the 3.  he needs a pass first PG that can kick and a low post guy that will draw a double.  he reminds me of dirk, who won with Kidd.  though he is 7'3" he is not a C and he wont be posting huge rebound numbers if he is guarding a 3 or stretch 4.  hgomez seemed a good rebounder, but not a rim protector.  they need a PG and to find a home for melo.  problem is, his game fits nowhere and with no one, which speaks volumes about his value.
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Is this about Melo or KP? If KP I disagree if this guy puts on some muscle the sky is limit for him, he could be Dirk with defense.

 
talk around here is if Celts take JJackson it's to trade and they'll wait until their FA is in the fold in July to do so. if they're not close on anything, it's Tatum

 
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