Being AlabamaIf UGA beat ALA, what would ALA's resume be? What top 25 teams would they've beaten? Miss St?
Georgia, Alabama, Notre Dame and probably clemson but possibly Oklahoma or Ohio stateYep. If you want an expanded playoff in the future, this is how you want this season to end (using current coaches poll, not where I expect them to be ranked at the end)
Who are the four that get in if it finishes like this?
I suppose it can be "fun" if the arguments are good ones. I guess I need to be more open minded...things can changeNot sure I understand your complaint. I thought the fussing and feuding over rankings was part of the fun.
LSU and Auburn as well, with Auburn and Miss St. on the road.If UGA beat ALA, what would ALA's resume be? What top 25 teams would they've beaten? Miss St?
In this scenario, Auburn would have at least 4 losses - 5 if they lose to A&M. And LSU would likely have 3.LSU and Auburn as well, with Auburn and Miss St. on the road.
And it's not like other teams are stacked with quality wins...OSU has a one point miracle comeback against PSU and a beatdown from OU (both at home)
Fair point, although in Auburn's defense, their losses would be a close one @ Clemson, @ LSU (never easy unless you are TroyIn this scenario, Auburn would have at least 4 losses - 5 if they lose to A&M. And LSU would likely have 3.
I guess the point is - outside of ALA and UGA - the SEC just isn't very good this year. So it seems kind of weird to think they would get two teams in.
Having said that, it is Alabama. As @Capella said, it'd be really hard to deny them.
Dude, I've been there. It's not a great place to raise a goat.The Mullens did not fit in with the Florida boosters. They know how it works in Gainesville and they won't be going back.
Plus I've never heard of Starville, but Starkville is a great town to raise a family in.![]()
Broheim, I was born and raised in Texas, did a 4 year tour of duty at a college in Mississippi....we adapt. They make sunscreen for people like us!Frost being a pasty white guy can't stay in the south too long. I thought you of all people would understand.
Meyer isn't an insufferable assssss from the Northeast. He can at least pretend to be affable and nice. Chip is a gigantic **** of man. He makes Muschamp and Macelwain (sp?) look like the Smothers Brothers by comparison.To be fair, Meyer was not a deep south guy either.
LSU over giant slaying Syracuse.The SEC has had some solid OOC wins...UGA over ND of course, but also UT over GT, SoCar over NC State, Vandy over K State for a mediocre win...Bama over FSU which is now almost meaningless.
Its tough when there are so few meaningful OOC games.
Georgia Tech is probably going to finish 6-5 and K State is probably going to finish 6-6. And while a 9-3 NC State finish would look good on paper, that's really just a reflection that Florida State and Louisville suck this year.gump said:The SEC has had some solid OOC wins...UGA over ND of course, but also UT over GT, SoCar over NC State, Vandy over K State for a mediocre win...Bama over FSU which is now almost meaningless.
Its tough when there are so few meaningful OOC games.
Which is why I don’t see the point of putting two teams from the same conference that would have just played in there. Even if it’s 1v2 or 1v3 might as well treat it like a play-in game if it’s literally the last game of the seasongump said:The SEC has had some solid OOC wins...UGA over ND of course, but also UT over GT, SoCar over NC State, Vandy over K State for a mediocre win...Bama over FSU which is now almost meaningless.
Its tough when there are so few meaningful OOC games.
In general I agree with you. It’d take that scenario that he posted (that will probably not even come close to happening) for them to be on the outside at 12-1.Capella said:Can't really argue that. Still would be floored if a 12-1 Bama team doesn't make it.
Check the ending records of the SEC teams getting those wins.Georgia Tech is probably going to finish 6-5 and K State is probably going to finish 6-6. And while a 9-3 NC State finish would look good on paper, that's really just a reflection that Florida State and Louisville suck this year.
Optimistic we can win in Charlottesville and Durham?Georgia Tech is probably going to finish 6-5 and K State is probably going to finish 6-6. And while a 9-3 NC State finish would look good on paper, that's really just a reflection that Florida State and Louisville suck this year.
I won't even officiate a high school football game for the school my brother-in-law is an assistant coach at because I don't want any appearance of bias. To say someone who has a direct financial stake in something can "check their hat at the door" is so asinine it's ridiculous. This sounds like something that someone in Wall Street or Congress would say.This is great. I love how serious these boobs take themselves.
http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0717012957665433987-4 - @CFBHeather - "For those of you wondering about bias in the room -- nobody is allowed to wear their school logos in the meeting room. They also symbolically "check their hats at the door," a tradition started by former committee chair Jeff Long, who is still on the committee. They were all given hats with their names on them on Monday"
This and the lack of OOC games are why I think the playoff should expand to 8. That way all the conference champs get automatic bids. And you can guarantee a spot for the best Group of 5 team.Which is why I don’t see the point of putting two teams from the same conference that would have just played in there. Even if it’s 1v2 or 1v3 might as well treat it like a play-in game if it’s literally the last game of the season
POS. TEAM W L W-SHARE L-SHARE KRAtio KRACH
1 Georgia 8 0 6.98 1.02 521.37 1
2 Notre Dame 7 1 6.66 1.34 519.75 4
3 Penn State 7 1 6.66 1.34 436.32 8
4 Clemson 7 1 6.49 1.51 425.20 10
5 Alabama 8 0 7.22 0.78 371.36 6
6 Ohio State 7 1 6.30 1.70 284.34 9
7 Virginia Tech 7 1 6.60 1.40 278.84 14
8 Wisconsin 8 0 6.79 1.21 232.73 5
9 Washington 7 1 6.59 1.41 176.12 21
10 Central Florida 7 0 6.01 0.99 175.49 2
11 TCU 7 1 6.09 1.91 156.33 12
12 Iowa St 6 2 5.51 2.49 154.52 18
13 Oklahoma 7 1 5.65 2.35 151.41 11
14 Auburn 6 2 5.95 2.05 150.67 24
15 Michigan St 6 2 5.03 2.97 146.46 19
16 Oklahoma St 7 1 5.82 2.18 141.52 15
17 Michigan 6 2 5.31 2.69 136.32 26
18 Mississippi St 6 2 5.66 2.34 136.07 16
19 Georgia Tech 4 3 4.53 2.47 127.82 41
20 Iowa 5 3 4.94 3.06 124.71 33
21 Miami FL 7 0 5.01 1.99 121.64 3
22 Texas 4 4 5.01 2.99 111.06 54
23 North Carolina St 6 2 4.98 3.02 110.22 20
24 Southern Cal 7 2 5.58 3.42 109.44 17
25 Northwestern 5 3 4.34 3.66 93.98 30
26 Washington St 7 2 6.11 2.89 88.76 23
27 Boston College 5 4 4.39 4.61 88.23 37
28 Wake Forest 5 3 4.85 3.15 88.16 46
29 Boise St 6 2 5.66 2.34 73.87 35
30 Stanford 6 2 5.15 2.85 72.16 27
31 Louisville 5 4 5.06 3.94 69.47 61
32 West Virginia 5 3 4.84 3.16 66.99 50
33 Indiana 3 5 3.98 4.02 66.48 68
34 Arizona 6 2 5.08 2.92 66.21 29
35 Purdue 3 5 4.20 3.80 64.93 81
36 Texas Tech 4 4 4.18 3.82 63.92 44
37 LSU 6 2 4.91 3.09 62.44 28
38 South Florida 7 1 6.14 1.86 62.02 25
39 Minnesota 4 4 4.74 3.26 61.30 79
40 Florida St 2 5 2.72 4.28 61.22 69
41 Syracuse 4 4 4.37 3.63 60.83 48
42 Toledo 7 1 5.71 2.29 58.05 13
43 Fresno St 5 3 5.09 2.91 57.93 66
44 Arizona St 4 4 3.97 4.03 57.42 49
45 Maryland 4 4 3.16 4.84 55.50 40
46 South Carolina 6 2 4.74 3.26 53.78 32
47 Oregon 5 4 4.79 4.21 52.94 47
48 Pittsburgh 4 5 4.17 4.83 52.69 64
49 San Diego St 7 2 5.34 3.66 52.69 31
50 Nebraska 4 4 3.81 4.19 52.61 60
51 California 4 5 4.38 4.62 52.17 59
52 Texas A&M 5 3 4.32 3.68 51.93 34
53 UCLA 4 4 4.00 4.00 51.78 42
54 Northern Illinois 6 2 5.33 2.67 50.59 45
55 Marshall 6 2 5.80 2.20 50.37 51
56 Florida 3 4 3.01 3.99 49.28 53
57 Navy 5 2 3.99 3.01 49.16 22
58 Houston 5 3 4.59 3.41 46.42 39
59 Memphis 7 1 4.68 3.32 45.09 7
60 Kansas St 4 4 4.38 3.62 42.67 76
61 SMU 6 2 4.93 3.07 41.82 38
62 Colorado 5 4 4.96 4.04 41.72 63
63 Duke 4 5 4.30 4.70 41.70 75
64 Virginia 5 3 4.21 3.79 40.52 57
65 Vanderbilt 3 5 3.79 4.21 40.33 82
66 Kentucky 6 2 4.39 3.61 37.70 36
67 Utah 4 4 4.26 3.74 36.24 71
68 Florida Atlantic 5 3 4.91 3.09 35.56 55
69 Western Michigan 5 3 4.61 3.39 31.72 67
70 Arkansas St 5 2 4.99 2.01 31.19 80
71 Tennessee 3 5 3.22 4.78 30.84 77
72 Rutgers 3 5 3.26 4.74 30.58 94
73 Mississippi 3 5 3.50 4.50 30.31 85
74 North Carolina 1 8 2.76 6.24 29.80 116
75 Eastern Michigan 2 6 4.00 4.00 28.09 105
76 Air Force 4 4 4.19 3.81 27.59 84
77 Wyoming 5 3 4.52 3.48 26.95 70
78 Missouri 3 5 3.47 4.53 26.55 88
79 Colorado St 6 3 5.03 3.97 26.43 72
80 Arkansas 3 5 3.08 4.92 26.08 78
81 Ohio U. 6 2 5.22 2.78 25.16 73
82 Tulane 3 5 3.59 4.41 25.13 58
83 Army 6 2 4.77 3.23 24.25 56
84 Akron 5 4 4.37 4.63 23.82 62
85 Buffalo 3 6 4.49 4.51 23.71 99
86 Troy 6 2 4.86 3.14 23.37 52
87 Miami OH 3 5 4.17 3.83 23.23 101
88 Cincinnati 2 6 2.74 5.26 23.01 87
89 Tulsa 2 7 3.86 5.14 22.92 103
90 Utah St 4 5 4.22 4.78 21.90 95
91 Texas-San Antonio 5 2 5.18 1.82 21.73 86
92 UNLV 3 5 3.83 4.17 20.89 102
93 Temple 3 5 3.47 4.53 18.37 92
94 Florida Int'l 5 2 3.77 3.23 18.30 43
95 North Texas 5 3 3.92 4.08 18.26 65
96 Appalachian St 5 3 4.57 3.43 17.99 96
97 Nevada 1 7 2.97 5.03 17.72 121
98 Middle Tennessee St 3 5 3.02 4.98 17.56 90
99 Illinois 2 6 2.61 5.39 17.27 108
100 Louisiana Tech 4 4 4.31 3.69 16.63 89
101 Southern Miss 5 3 4.65 3.35 15.98 74
102 New Mexico 3 5 3.28 4.72 15.57 104
103 Baylor 0 8 2.24 5.76 14.88 128
104 Central Michigan 4 4 3.32 4.68 14.71 83
105 New Mexico St 3 5 3.72 4.28 13.91 113
106 Oregon St 1 7 1.98 6.02 12.71 123
107 East Carolina 2 6 2.04 5.96 12.49 100
108 Connecticut 3 5 3.00 5.00 12.22 97
109 Idaho 3 5 3.58 4.42 12.14 112
110 Alabama-Birmingham 5 3 4.74 3.26 12.03 91
111 Bowling Green 1 7 2.02 5.98 11.80 114
112 Old Dominion 2 6 2.83 5.17 11.54 118
113 South Alabama 3 5 3.64 4.36 11.32 109
114 Kansas 1 7 2.11 5.89 11.20 119
115 Western Kentucky 5 3 4.38 3.62 10.60 98
116 Hawai`i 3 5 3.02 4.98 10.12 111
117 Massachusetts 2 6 3.53 4.47 9.74 126
118 Louisiana-Lafayette 3 4 3.00 4.00 9.61 110
119 Brigham Young 2 7 2.70 6.30 9.51 122
120 Georgia St 4 3 3.30 3.70 8.93 93
121 Louisiana-Monroe 3 5 3.59 4.41 8.36 115
122 Ball St 2 6 2.39 5.61 5.70 117
123 Kent St 2 6 1.42 6.58 5.27 107
124 San Jose St 1 8 1.93 7.07 5.15 129
125 Coastal Carolina 1 7 2.39 5.61 4.83 127
126 Rice 1 7 1.61 6.39 4.69 124
127 Georgia Southern 0 7 1.25 5.75 4.21 130
128 UNC-Charlotte 1 7 1.68 6.32 4.13 120
129 Texas St-San Marcos 2 6 2.49 5.51 4.02 125
130 Liberty 4 4 3.71 4.29 3.14 106
131 UTEP 0 8 1.25 6.75 3.04 131
To be fair they do "recuse" themselves when teams they are directly tied to are being discussed. I just think the blank hats with their last name on them are friggin hilarious. You morons aren't curing cancer in there, you're just BSing about college football. We could pick five random fans from this thread and they'd be able to do just as good if not better of a job.I won't even officiate a high school football game for the school my brother-in-law is an assistant coach at because I don't want any appearance of bias. To say someone who has a direct financial stake in something can "check their hat at the door" is so asinine it's ridiculous. This sounds like something that someone in Wall Street or Congress would say.
Agree on 8 but nobody is leaving out Georgia, Penn State, and Notre Dame as at-large participants to get Central Florida in there.This and the lack of OOC games are why I think the playoff should expand to 8. That way all the conference champs get automatic bids. And you can guarantee a spot for the best Group of 5 team.
YuckThis and the lack of OOC games are why I think the playoff should expand to 8. That way all the conference champs get automatic bids. And you can guarantee a spot for the best Group of 5 team.
In!I guess it's a good time to unveil the "popular""Dickie Dunn Rankings" for the first time in 2017.
Georgia at No. 1
Are you pretending you went to the game? ... good times.I remember when Tennessee played at Oregon and many of the Vol fans who traveled up for the game were wearing "Butch Slapped" and "Butch Please" t-shirts. Good times, Tennessee.....good times.
Please list the teams in each level.If Florida wants Mullen he'll be in Gainesville. Miss St is like 4 levels beneath the Florida program. Sorry not sorry.
You could and you would be wrong.Please list the teams in each level.
In 2017 you could actually argue Florida is several levels below Mississippi State.
Didn't Oregon #### the bed that year in the last game of the season (as usual) to let Bama sneak in for the rematch? You should take a look in the mirror once in a while.General Malaise said:If Alabama treats Georgia like they do every other SEC school and wins with relative ease, the committee won't like that. If Georgia wins or loses in a close one, then I can see it.
The Bama/LSU rematch abortion should not be forgotten by anybody, let alone the committee. That game sucked out loud.
Maybe.You could and you would be wrong.
That won't make you any less wrong on that ridiculous statement. I've got no dog in this fight, but is there a more anonymous program in college football history than Mississippi State? Hell, the school I root for - sorry ### Maryland - has more tradition than Miss St. And you're comparing them to Florida?Maybe.
Let me go back through the thread and update all the times you've been wrong. This could take a while so please be patient.
In 2017, yes.That won't make you any less wrong on that ridiculous statement. I've got no dog in this fight, but is there a more anonymous program in college football history than Mississippi State? Hell, the school I root for - sorry ### Maryland - has more tradition than Miss St. And you're comparing them to Florida?
ok. Let me know when you find one comment anybody made that is as bad as the Florida job is several levels below Mississippi State.Maybe.
Let me go back through the thread and update all the times you've been wrong. This could take a while so please be patient.
We were talking about the jobs, not the teams on the field, Captain Literacy.In 2017, yes.
I said, Mississippi State > Florida this year.
Which is not ridiculous. It's actually true.
Will do.ok. Let me know when you find one comment anybody made that is as bad as the Florida job is several levels below Mississippi State.![]()
Ok.We were talking about the jobs, not the teams on the field, Captain Literacy.
You know this already, but college programs aren't viewed in a vacuum. You're not trying to sell the job to an alien, but a real, live human coach who has inhabited our universe. Maybe folks won't argue that MSU is better this year, but that's not how this works.In 2017, yes.
I said, Mississippi State > Florida this year.
Which is not ridiculous. It's actually true.
I didn't say they were the only 4. I listed the 4 teams with the best Vegas odds. Fsu was #3.Remember when Cappy said FSU was one of four teams with a shot to win it all this year?
2-5
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Which thread? I can't find it now because you post too damn much.I didn't say they were the only 4. I listed the 4 teams with the best Vegas odds. Fsu was #3.
I was joking about the literacy thing but it may actually be true.
Skimming through this thread without taking any of it too seriously is another possibility. I didn't know there would be a pop quiz at the end.I was joking about the literacy thing but it may actually be true.
You should post a lot less.Which thread? I can't find it now because you post too damn much.
But you actually did say, the national title is likely to come from one of these four teams. FSU is one of the ones you listed and they are now 2-5 for the record.
It would suck to have Bama punished for how bad Florida State is. Or maybe that was their plan all along?gump said:The SEC has had some solid OOC wins...UGA over ND of course, but also UT over GT, SoCar over NC State, Vandy over K State for a mediocre win...Bama over FSU which is now almost meaningless.
Its tough when there are so few meaningful OOC games.
I didn't say I went to the game. They were out in force in Portland after getting stomped. Sold my tickets to that game for $300Are you pretending you went to the game? ... good times.
FloridaPlease list the teams in each level.
In 2017 you could actually argue Florida is several levels below Mississippi State.