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2017 College Football Thread: Hawaiian QB devastated to find out Jesus was "kinda rooting for Georgia" (2 Viewers)

Yep. If you want an expanded playoff in the future, this is how you want this season to end (using current coaches poll, not where I expect them to be ranked at the end) 

Who are the four that get in if it finishes like this?
Georgia, Alabama, Notre Dame and probably clemson but possibly Oklahoma or Ohio state 

 
If UGA beat ALA, what would ALA's resume be? What top 25 teams would they've beaten? Miss St?
LSU and Auburn as well, with Auburn and Miss St. on the road.

And it's not like other teams are stacked with quality wins...OSU has a one point miracle comeback against PSU and a beatdown from OU (both at home)

 
LSU and Auburn as well, with Auburn and Miss St. on the road.

And it's not like other teams are stacked with quality wins...OSU has a one point miracle comeback against PSU and a beatdown from OU (both at home)
In this scenario, Auburn would have at least 4 losses - 5 if they lose to A&M. And LSU would likely have 3.

I guess the point is - outside of ALA and UGA - the SEC just isn't very good this year. So it seems kind of weird to think they would get two teams in.

Having said that, it is Alabama. As @Capella said, it'd be really hard to deny them.

 
In this scenario, Auburn would have at least 4 losses - 5 if they lose to A&M. And LSU would likely have 3.

I guess the point is - outside of ALA and UGA - the SEC just isn't very good this year. So it seems kind of weird to think they would get two teams in.

Having said that, it is Alabama. As @Capella said, it'd be really hard to deny them.
Fair point, although in Auburn's defense, their losses would be a close one @ Clemson, @ LSU (never easy unless you are Troy :P ),  #2 Georgia, and #1 Alabama

Miss St.'s losses would be @ #2 Georgia, @Auburn and #1 Alabama (Bama better be very, very careful going into Starkville).  

 
The Mullens did not fit in with the Florida boosters.  They know how it works in Gainesville and they won't be going back. 

Plus I've never heard of Starville, but Starkville is a great town to raise a family in.  :boxing:
Dude, I've been there.  It's not a great place to raise a goat.

 
If Alabama treats Georgia like they do every other SEC school and wins with relative ease, the committee won't like that.  If Georgia wins or loses in a close one, then I can see it.  

The Bama/LSU rematch abortion should not be forgotten by anybody, let alone the committee.  That game sucked out loud.  

 
Anyone know if there's a way to filter out quote/retweets from your Twitter timeline? I like Andy Staples a lot but instead of directly replying to people who ask him dumb stuff/fight with him (which wouldn't appear on everyone's TL), he quote/RTs it so everyone sees it. Bothers the hell out of me and he does it all the time.

Don't want to stop following him for his own writing/gratuitous food porn but something's gotta give.

 
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The SEC has had some solid OOC wins...UGA over ND of course, but also UT over GT, SoCar over NC State, Vandy over K State for a mediocre win...Bama over FSU which is now almost meaningless.

Its tough when there are so few meaningful OOC games.

 
The SEC has had some solid OOC wins...UGA over ND of course, but also UT over GT, SoCar over NC State, Vandy over K State for a mediocre win...Bama over FSU which is now almost meaningless.

Its tough when there are so few meaningful OOC games.
LSU over giant slaying Syracuse.

 
gump said:
The SEC has had some solid OOC wins...UGA over ND of course, but also UT over GT, SoCar over NC State, Vandy over K State for a mediocre win...Bama over FSU which is now almost meaningless.

Its tough when there are so few meaningful OOC games.
Georgia Tech is probably going to finish 6-5 and K State is probably going to finish 6-6. And while a 9-3 NC State finish would look good on paper, that's really just a reflection that Florida State and Louisville suck this year. 

 
gump said:
The SEC has had some solid OOC wins...UGA over ND of course, but also UT over GT, SoCar over NC State, Vandy over K State for a mediocre win...Bama over FSU which is now almost meaningless.

Its tough when there are so few meaningful OOC games.
Which is why I don’t see the point of putting two teams from the same conference that would have just played in there. Even if it’s 1v2 or 1v3 might as well treat it like a play-in game if it’s literally the last game of the season 

 
Capella said:
Can't really argue that. Still would be floored if a 12-1 Bama team doesn't make it. 
In general I agree with you. It’d take that scenario that he posted (that will probably not even come close to happening) for them to be on the outside at 12-1.

 
Georgia Tech is probably going to finish 6-5 and K State is probably going to finish 6-6. And while a 9-3 NC State finish would look good on paper, that's really just a reflection that Florida State and Louisville suck this year. 
Check the ending records of the SEC teams getting those wins.

 
Georgia Tech is probably going to finish 6-5 and K State is probably going to finish 6-6. And while a 9-3 NC State finish would look good on paper, that's really just a reflection that Florida State and Louisville suck this year. 
Optimistic we can win in Charlottesville and Durham?

NC State is really good.  It's not a reflection of anyone else.

 
This is great. I love how serious these boobs take themselves. 

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0717012957665433987-4 - @CFBHeather - "For those of you wondering about bias in the room -- nobody is allowed to wear their school logos in the meeting room. They also symbolically "check their hats at the door," a tradition started by former committee chair Jeff Long, who is still on the committee. They were all given hats with their names on them on Monday"

 
This is great. I love how serious these boobs take themselves. 

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0717012957665433987-4 - @CFBHeather - "For those of you wondering about bias in the room -- nobody is allowed to wear their school logos in the meeting room. They also symbolically "check their hats at the door," a tradition started by former committee chair Jeff Long, who is still on the committee. They were all given hats with their names on them on Monday"
I won't even officiate a high school football game for the school my brother-in-law is an assistant coach at because I don't want any appearance of bias.  To say someone who has a direct financial stake in something can "check their hat at the door" is so asinine it's ridiculous.  This sounds like something that someone in Wall Street or Congress would say.

 
Which is why I don’t see the point of putting two teams from the same conference that would have just played in there. Even if it’s 1v2 or 1v3 might as well treat it like a play-in game if it’s literally the last game of the season 
This and the lack of OOC games are why I think the playoff should expand to 8. That way all the conference champs get automatic bids. And you can guarantee a spot for the best Group of 5 team.

 
With the first rankings unveiled tonight, I guess it's a good time to unveil the "popular"  :P  "Dickie Dunn Rankings" for the first time in 2017.

What's posted below is a modification of the KRACH rankings that are popular in college hockey. Rather than just ranking based on a Win or a Loss, this system awards a "share" of a win-loss based on the score of the game. But for the most part, it rewards good defense, so a 10-7 win is not the same as a 45-42 win.

Each team's KRACH ranking also is listed in the right column, where you see the outliers for teams that still are unbeaten at this point in the season (UCF 2, Miami 3, etc.). But factoring in scores tends to even these out.

Georgia at No. 1 -- and just a tick above ND -- reinforces my belief that UGA will be No. 1 when the committee unveils its rankings tonight. Alabama's schedule just doesn't quite hold up at this point. Penn State still being ahead of Ohio State also is interesting, but again that could be SOS-driven, as well as accounting for a one-point loss to a strong team on the road.

As always, thoughts appreciated.  :scared:

Code:
POS.	TEAM		W	L	W-SHARE	L-SHARE	KRAtio	KRACH
1	Georgia		8	0	6.98	1.02	521.37	1
2	Notre Dame	7	1	6.66	1.34	519.75	4
3	Penn State	7	1	6.66	1.34	436.32	8
4	Clemson		7	1	6.49	1.51	425.20	10
5	Alabama		8	0	7.22	0.78	371.36	6
6	Ohio State	7	1	6.30	1.70	284.34	9
7	Virginia Tech	7	1	6.60	1.40	278.84	14
8	Wisconsin	8	0	6.79	1.21	232.73	5
9	Washington	7	1	6.59	1.41	176.12	21
10	Central Florida	7	0	6.01	0.99	175.49	2
11	TCU		7	1	6.09	1.91	156.33	12
12	Iowa St		6	2	5.51	2.49	154.52	18
13	Oklahoma	7	1	5.65	2.35	151.41	11
14	Auburn		6	2	5.95	2.05	150.67	24
15	Michigan St	6	2	5.03	2.97	146.46	19
16	Oklahoma St	7	1	5.82	2.18	141.52	15
17	Michigan	6	2	5.31	2.69	136.32	26
18	Mississippi St	6	2	5.66	2.34	136.07	16
19	Georgia Tech	4	3	4.53	2.47	127.82	41
20	Iowa	5	3	4.94	3.06	124.71	33
21	Miami FL	7	0	5.01	1.99	121.64	3
22	Texas	4	4	5.01	2.99	111.06	54
23	North Carolina St	6	2	4.98	3.02	110.22	20
24	Southern Cal	7	2	5.58	3.42	109.44	17
25	Northwestern	5	3	4.34	3.66	93.98	30
26	Washington St	7	2	6.11	2.89	88.76	23
27	Boston College	5	4	4.39	4.61	88.23	37
28	Wake Forest	5	3	4.85	3.15	88.16	46
29	Boise St	6	2	5.66	2.34	73.87	35
30	Stanford	6	2	5.15	2.85	72.16	27
31	Louisville	5	4	5.06	3.94	69.47	61
32	West Virginia	5	3	4.84	3.16	66.99	50
33	Indiana	3	5	3.98	4.02	66.48	68
34	Arizona	6	2	5.08	2.92	66.21	29
35	Purdue	3	5	4.20	3.80	64.93	81
36	Texas Tech	4	4	4.18	3.82	63.92	44
37	LSU	6	2	4.91	3.09	62.44	28
38	South Florida	7	1	6.14	1.86	62.02	25
39	Minnesota	4	4	4.74	3.26	61.30	79
40	Florida St	2	5	2.72	4.28	61.22	69
41	Syracuse	4	4	4.37	3.63	60.83	48
42	Toledo	7	1	5.71	2.29	58.05	13
43	Fresno St	5	3	5.09	2.91	57.93	66
44	Arizona St	4	4	3.97	4.03	57.42	49
45	Maryland	4	4	3.16	4.84	55.50	40
46	South Carolina	6	2	4.74	3.26	53.78	32
47	Oregon	5	4	4.79	4.21	52.94	47
48	Pittsburgh	4	5	4.17	4.83	52.69	64
49	San Diego St	7	2	5.34	3.66	52.69	31
50	Nebraska	4	4	3.81	4.19	52.61	60
51	California	4	5	4.38	4.62	52.17	59
52	Texas A&M	5	3	4.32	3.68	51.93	34
53	UCLA	4	4	4.00	4.00	51.78	42
54	Northern Illinois	6	2	5.33	2.67	50.59	45
55	Marshall	6	2	5.80	2.20	50.37	51
56	Florida	3	4	3.01	3.99	49.28	53
57	Navy	5	2	3.99	3.01	49.16	22
58	Houston	5	3	4.59	3.41	46.42	39
59	Memphis	7	1	4.68	3.32	45.09	7
60	Kansas St	4	4	4.38	3.62	42.67	76
61	SMU	6	2	4.93	3.07	41.82	38
62	Colorado	5	4	4.96	4.04	41.72	63
63	Duke	4	5	4.30	4.70	41.70	75
64	Virginia	5	3	4.21	3.79	40.52	57
65	Vanderbilt	3	5	3.79	4.21	40.33	82
66	Kentucky	6	2	4.39	3.61	37.70	36
67	Utah	4	4	4.26	3.74	36.24	71
68	Florida Atlantic	5	3	4.91	3.09	35.56	55
69	Western Michigan	5	3	4.61	3.39	31.72	67
70	Arkansas St	5	2	4.99	2.01	31.19	80
71	Tennessee	3	5	3.22	4.78	30.84	77
72	Rutgers	3	5	3.26	4.74	30.58	94
73	Mississippi	3	5	3.50	4.50	30.31	85
74	North Carolina	1	8	2.76	6.24	29.80	116
75	Eastern Michigan	2	6	4.00	4.00	28.09	105
76	Air Force	4	4	4.19	3.81	27.59	84
77	Wyoming	5	3	4.52	3.48	26.95	70
78	Missouri	3	5	3.47	4.53	26.55	88
79	Colorado St	6	3	5.03	3.97	26.43	72
80	Arkansas	3	5	3.08	4.92	26.08	78
81	Ohio U.	6	2	5.22	2.78	25.16	73
82	Tulane	3	5	3.59	4.41	25.13	58
83	Army	6	2	4.77	3.23	24.25	56
84	Akron	5	4	4.37	4.63	23.82	62
85	Buffalo	3	6	4.49	4.51	23.71	99
86	Troy	6	2	4.86	3.14	23.37	52
87	Miami OH	3	5	4.17	3.83	23.23	101
88	Cincinnati	2	6	2.74	5.26	23.01	87
89	Tulsa	2	7	3.86	5.14	22.92	103
90	Utah St	4	5	4.22	4.78	21.90	95
91	Texas-San Antonio	5	2	5.18	1.82	21.73	86
92	UNLV	3	5	3.83	4.17	20.89	102
93	Temple	3	5	3.47	4.53	18.37	92
94	Florida Int'l	5	2	3.77	3.23	18.30	43
95	North Texas	5	3	3.92	4.08	18.26	65
96	Appalachian St	5	3	4.57	3.43	17.99	96
97	Nevada	1	7	2.97	5.03	17.72	121
98	Middle Tennessee St	3	5	3.02	4.98	17.56	90
99	Illinois	2	6	2.61	5.39	17.27	108
100	Louisiana Tech	4	4	4.31	3.69	16.63	89
101	Southern Miss	5	3	4.65	3.35	15.98	74
102	New Mexico	3	5	3.28	4.72	15.57	104
103	Baylor	0	8	2.24	5.76	14.88	128
104	Central Michigan	4	4	3.32	4.68	14.71	83
105	New Mexico St	3	5	3.72	4.28	13.91	113
106	Oregon St	1	7	1.98	6.02	12.71	123
107	East Carolina	2	6	2.04	5.96	12.49	100
108	Connecticut	3	5	3.00	5.00	12.22	97
109	Idaho	3	5	3.58	4.42	12.14	112
110	Alabama-Birmingham	5	3	4.74	3.26	12.03	91
111	Bowling Green	1	7	2.02	5.98	11.80	114
112	Old Dominion	2	6	2.83	5.17	11.54	118
113	South Alabama	3	5	3.64	4.36	11.32	109
114	Kansas	1	7	2.11	5.89	11.20	119
115	Western Kentucky	5	3	4.38	3.62	10.60	98
116	Hawai`i	3	5	3.02	4.98	10.12	111
117	Massachusetts	2	6	3.53	4.47	9.74	126
118	Louisiana-Lafayette	3	4	3.00	4.00	9.61	110
119	Brigham Young	2	7	2.70	6.30	9.51	122
120	Georgia St	4	3	3.30	3.70	8.93	93
121	Louisiana-Monroe	3	5	3.59	4.41	8.36	115
122	Ball St	2	6	2.39	5.61	5.70	117
123	Kent St	2	6	1.42	6.58	5.27	107
124	San Jose St	1	8	1.93	7.07	5.15	129
125	Coastal Carolina	1	7	2.39	5.61	4.83	127
126	Rice	1	7	1.61	6.39	4.69	124
127	Georgia Southern	0	7	1.25	5.75	4.21	130
128	UNC-Charlotte	1	7	1.68	6.32	4.13	120
129	Texas St-San Marcos	2	6	2.49	5.51	4.02	125
130	Liberty	4	4	3.71	4.29	3.14	106
131	UTEP	0	8	1.25	6.75	3.04	131
 
I won't even officiate a high school football game for the school my brother-in-law is an assistant coach at because I don't want any appearance of bias.  To say someone who has a direct financial stake in something can "check their hat at the door" is so asinine it's ridiculous.  This sounds like something that someone in Wall Street or Congress would say.
To be fair they do "recuse" themselves when teams they are directly tied to are being discussed. I just think the blank hats with their last name on them are friggin hilarious. You morons aren't curing cancer in there, you're just BSing about college football. We could pick five random fans from this thread and they'd be able to do just as good if not better of a job. 

 
This and the lack of OOC games are why I think the playoff should expand to 8. That way all the conference champs get automatic bids. And you can guarantee a spot for the best Group of 5 team.
Agree on 8 but nobody is leaving out Georgia, Penn State, and Notre Dame as at-large participants to get Central Florida in there.

 
If Florida wants Mullen he'll be in Gainesville. Miss St is like 4 levels beneath the Florida program. Sorry not sorry. 
Please list the teams in each level.

In 2017 you could actually argue Florida is several levels below Mississippi State.

 
General Malaise said:
If Alabama treats Georgia like they do every other SEC school and wins with relative ease, the committee won't like that.  If Georgia wins or loses in a close one, then I can see it.  

The Bama/LSU rematch abortion should not be forgotten by anybody, let alone the committee.  That game sucked out loud.  
Didn't Oregon #### the bed that year in the last game of the season (as usual) to let Bama sneak in for the rematch?  You should take a look in the mirror once in a while.

 
Maybe.

Let me go back through the thread and update all the times you've been wrong.  This could take a while so please be patient.
That won't make you any less wrong on that ridiculous statement. I've got no dog in this fight, but is there a more anonymous program in college football history than Mississippi State? Hell, the school I root for - sorry ### Maryland - has more tradition than Miss St. And you're comparing them to Florida?

 
That won't make you any less wrong on that ridiculous statement. I've got no dog in this fight, but is there a more anonymous program in college football history than Mississippi State? Hell, the school I root for - sorry ### Maryland - has more tradition than Miss St. And you're comparing them to Florida?
In 2017, yes.

I said, Mississippi State > Florida this year.

Which is not ridiculous.  It's actually true.

 
Maybe.

Let me go back through the thread and update all the times you've been wrong.  This could take a while so please be patient.
ok. Let me know when you find one comment anybody made that is as bad as the Florida job is several levels below Mississippi State. :lmao:  

 
In 2017, yes.

I said, Mississippi State > Florida this year.

Which is not ridiculous.  It's actually true.
You know this already, but college programs aren't viewed in a vacuum. You're not trying to sell the job to an alien, but a real, live human coach who has inhabited our universe. Maybe folks won't argue that MSU is better this year, but that's not how this works.

 
Remember when Cappy said FSU was one of four teams with a shot to win it all this year?

2-5

<_<
I didn't say they were the only 4. I listed the 4 teams with the best Vegas odds. Fsu was #3. 

I was joking about the literacy thing but it may actually be true. 

 
I didn't say they were the only 4. I listed the 4 teams with the best Vegas odds. Fsu was #3. 

I was joking about the literacy thing but it may actually be true. 
Which thread?  I can't find it now because you post too damn much.

But you actually did say, the national title is likely to come from one of these four teams.  FSU is one of the ones you listed and they are now 2-5 for the record.

 
I can't think of a better place to coach than Florida.   Great weather, beaches, hot women if you are into that sort of thing.  You can't throw a rock in any direction without hitting a 5-star recruit.  I would think guys would line up for that job.     The downside is hot women if you are married.  

 
Which thread?  I can't find it now because you post too damn much.

But you actually did say, the national title is likely to come from one of these four teams.  FSU is one of the ones you listed and they are now 2-5 for the record.
You should post a lot less.

Speaking of being wrong, remember when you said LSU was as good of a job as FSU, then Jimbo turned down a bunch of money to go there, because it was clearly inferior? I guess that's one time I wish you were actually right. 

 
Also the four teams were Bama, FSU, OSU and either USC or Oklahoma, can't remember. I would still take that against the field. Don't know how that makes me wrong. :shrug:  

 
gump said:
The SEC has had some solid OOC wins...UGA over ND of course, but also UT over GT, SoCar over NC State, Vandy over K State for a mediocre win...Bama over FSU which is now almost meaningless.

Its tough when there are so few meaningful OOC games.
It would suck to have Bama punished for how bad Florida State is.  Or maybe that was their plan all along?

 

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