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2017 College Football Thread: Hawaiian QB devastated to find out Jesus was "kinda rooting for Georgia" (1 Viewer)

JaxBill said:
So @Capella, thoughts on possibility that Phil Knight makes it rain for Taggart to stay in the Northwest and FSU makes Charlie Strong the guy?
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Taggart told his own players that FSU was his dream job.  Even if they match salaries (which Oregon would have to raise with 10ish% due to astronomical state taxes and a new tax plan where you can't deduct your state taxes - THANKS OBAMA) it is impossible to compete with a dream.  Taggart's wife is home sick, his son wants to go to IMG, somebody's mom down there is in grave health.  He's not staying here.  The weather is awful right now and I'm sure people are wearing shorts in Talledega or Truckadassee or whatever right now.  

It.....it was sort of a run.  We'll always have the Las Vegas Bowl Bid, Willie.   Have a nice career, if you want to. 

 
Missed everything yesterday, but what did the committee have to say about the farce of placing Fresno State into the Top 25 only to lost to BSU?  Anything?  

 
Jesus, I'm following Twitter like some sort of depraved animal this morning.  I don't even really like Taggart that much.  Just like his recruiting.  College football and its family is a ####.

 
General Malaise said:
Jesus, I'm following Twitter like some sort of depraved animal this morning.  I don't even really like Taggart that much.  Just like his recruiting.  College football and its family is a ####.
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He’s got some good catch phrases.  It feels like he just left the sunshine state...hmmmm....

 
Power 5 Conference Champs: Clemson, Oklahoma, Georgia, Ohio State, USC.

Best FBS School ranked in top 15: Central Florida

2 Wildcards based on final playoff rankings: Alabama, Wisconsin

Quarterfinals in Mid December:

Central Florida at Clemson

USC at Oklahoma

Wisconsin at Georgia

Ohio State at Alabama

Might be kind of exciting.

 
General Malaise said:
Taggart told his own players that FSU was his dream job.  Even if they match salaries (which Oregon would have to raise with 10ish% due to astronomical state taxes and a new tax plan where you can't deduct your state taxes - THANKS OBAMA) it is impossible to compete with a dream.  Taggart's wife is home sick, his son wants to go to IMG, somebody's mom down there is in grave health.  He's not staying here.  The weather is awful right now and I'm sure people are wearing shorts in Talledega or Truckadassee or whatever right now.  

It.....it was sort of a run.  We'll always have the Las Vegas Bowl Bid, Willie.   Have a nice career, if you want to. 
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:lmao: :lmao:

 
General Malaise said:
Jesus, I'm following Twitter like some sort of depraved animal this morning.  I don't even really like Taggart that much.  Just like his recruiting.  College football and its family is a ####.
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Good news! Dirk Koetter will be available soon! He is also a guy who coaches football. 

 
FreeBaGeL said:
A 2-loss Auburn would probably have been ranked #1 over three 1-loss teams so to say it's completely about losses is asinine.  Just like the previous notions that it was completely about conference titles or who you beat in previous years were asinine.  There is no single variable.
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Asinine? This decision was purely on losses. Auburn was in the championship game, they won HTH, and they had a harder SOS. Auburn had more top 10 wins - 2 vs 0 - and more top 25 wins - 3 vs 2 - than Alabama. The only thing Bama was better at was fewer losses, unless you count margin of victory over Mercer. What else do you think went into the decision in choosing Bama over Auburn?

 
Hoosier16 said:
Asinine? This decision was purely on losses. Auburn was in the championship game, they won HTH, and they had a harder SOS. Auburn had more top 10 wins - 2 vs 0 - and more top 25 wins - 3 vs 2 - than Alabama. The only thing Bama was better at was fewer losses, unless you count margin of victory over Mercer. What else do you think went into the decision in choosing Bama over Auburn?
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It's just better. Roll tide

 
Hoosier16 said:
Asinine? This decision was purely on losses. Auburn was in the championship game, they won HTH, and they had a harder SOS. Auburn had more top 10 wins - 2 vs 0 - and more top 25 wins - 3 vs 2 - than Alabama. The only thing Bama was better at was fewer losses, unless you count margin of victory over Mercer. What else do you think went into the decision in choosing Bama over Auburn?
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I thought you were implying that they basically just chose the 4 teams with the fewest losses because all they cared about was losses.  That part is patently untrue as they would have not only taken a 2-loss Auburn, they would have probably had them as the #1 overall seed ahead of a slew of 1-loss teams.

If you're talking about only Bama compared to Auburn, then sure I can buy that it came down to losses in this scenario.  2 extra losses is a lot.  If Auburn had finished with 2 losses they would have still taken Auburn over Alabama so it's not a blanket "more losses = you're out".  But yes, it came down to a major difference in losses.  Is that terrible?  I mean how far do you take it.  What if a team is 6-6 with 4 wins over top 10 opponents including a head to head over one of the playoff teams?

I generally agree that losses are a variable that is valued too highly by the committee.  But I also think people in this thread are being unbalanced the other way, to the point where everyone is basically just shrugging off losses as if they were bye weeks where no game took place.

Auburn is an interesting case because with their schedule they probably could have been not only in, but a #1 seed, even with 2 losses.  But 3?  Are we really pushing things that far?  I mean it's pretty clear Auburn isn't the best team in the country.  Yeah it sucks that they had to play five top 15 opponents but they went 2-3 in those games.  That doesn't mean they aren't good, but 2-3 against top 15 opponents isn't exactly national championship material.  When all was said and done Clemson was 4-0 against top 15 opponents last year.  Alabama was 5-1 the year before that.  Winning 40% of your tough games isn't as impressive as people are implying.

I don't like the Bama selection this year but no matter who they picked the 4th team this year was going to be one with a lot of flaws and a very compelling case as to why they shouldn't be in there.  At least we're arguing about leaving out one team from a selection of teams that all probably don't deserve to have a chance to play for the title this year, instead of arguing who gets left out from a BCS game between three teams that all probably do deserve a shot.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
Auburn is an interesting case because with their schedule they probably could have been not only in, but a #1 seed, even with 2 losses.  But 3?  Are we really pushing things that far?  I mean it's pretty clear Auburn isn't the best team in the country.  Yeah it sucks that they had to play five top 15 opponents but they went 2-3 in those games.  That doesn't mean they aren't good, but 2-3 against top 15 opponents isn't exactly national championship material.  When all was said and done Clemson was 4-0 against top 15 opponents last year.  Alabama was 5-1 the year before that.  Winning 40% of your tough games isn't as impressive as people are implying.
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The irony in all of this is that if they had won game #5, they would've been that #1 seed with a 3-2 record against top 15 teams.

 
Oh God :lmao:

Some slappy on twitter is demanding a boycott of Outback because they picked Michigan instead of Michigan State for the Outback bowl....nevermind that MSU was already picked for a different bowl by the time Outback got to pick.

 
The Commish said:
Oh God :lmao:

Some slappy on twitter is demanding a boycott of Outback because they picked Michigan instead of Michigan State for the Outback bowl....nevermind that MSU was already picked for a different bowl by the time Outback got to pick.
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Outback definitely skipped them. They have higher priority. 

 
Please tell me this thread has already discussed Herm's intro press conference at ASU today where he was horrified to field a question from a reporter from the Daily Devils.  Appears Herm the Catholic is no fan of anything to do with Satan.  

How????   HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE THAT A GUY CAN TAKE A JOB WITH THE SUN DEVILS AND BE SURPRISED WHEN A REPORTER FROM 'THE DAILY DEVIL' ASKS HIM A QUESTION???????

 
General Malaise said:
Please tell me this thread has already discussed Herm's intro press conference at ASU today where he was horrified to field a question from a reporter from the Daily Devils.  Appears Herm the Catholic is no fan of anything to do with Satan.  

How????   HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE THAT A GUY CAN TAKE A JOB WITH THE SUN DEVILS AND BE SURPRISED WHEN A REPORTER FROM 'THE DAILY DEVIL' ASKS HIM A QUESTION???????
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Gold right off the bat. :thumbup: This match is going to be an endless fountain of funny.

 
Actually the more I think about it, I am surprised that the CFP didn't have USC, Stanford, Washington and Washington State, since it is the best conference.

:lhucks:

 
Fat Drunk and Stupid said:
" UT has initiated the process to dispatch Currie with cause on the heels of insubordination claims. Among the most egregious of the claims, per multiple sources including some in the legal community and on the Tennessee campus, when urged to return home last week as the search dissolved into a national punchline, Currie instead opted to utilize the private aircraft of a Kansas State booster to continue trying to find Butch Jones’ replacement. That’s why no one knew where he was after he left (being turned down by N.C. State head coach Dave Doeren), a source explained."

   :mellow:   :mellow: :mellow: :lmao: :mellow: :lmao:  
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Amazing. 

Also, you should all watch the Herm press conference. He is pretty clearly nuts. What an awful decision by ASU, can't believe how awful the fans must feel. 

 
Capella said:
Amazing. 

Also, you should all watch the Herm press conference. He is pretty clearly nuts. What an awful decision by ASU, can't believe how awful the fans must feel. 
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I just can’t believe they buyout Graham for $12,000,000 (not mitigated by any future coaching money) and Herm Edwards is the choice??? Should have just kept Graham. 

What a bizarre hire.

 
Balco said:
I just can’t believe they buyout Graham for $12,000,000 (not mitigated by any future coaching money) and Herm Edwards is the choice??? Should have just kept Graham. 

What a bizarre hire.
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AND! They kept all of Graham's assistants! Literally just swapped Graham for Herm and paid a ton of money to do so. 

Amaaaaaaaaaziiiiiiiing 

 
Capella said:
Amazing. 

Also, you should all watch the Herm press conference. He is pretty clearly nuts. What an awful decision by ASU, can't believe how awful the fans must feel. 
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They don't care.  Nobody goes to their games.  Would you after 20 years of futility?  I mean...they just fired a guy who went to a bowl game 5 out of 6 years, was 15 games over. 500 and hired a guy who was mortified to learn his employer's mascot had the word "Devil" in it.  How can you root for that?

Better question I guess is how can you not?

 
General Malaise said:
They don't care.  Nobody goes to their games.  Would you after 20 years of futility?  I mean...they just fired a guy who went to a bowl game 5 out of 6 years, was 15 games over. 500 and hired a guy who was mortified to learn his employer's mascot had the word "Devil" in it.  How can you root for that?

Better question I guess is how can you not?
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I'll probably watch every one of his press conferences and I live 3000 miles away and don't care about that team at all. No shtick. 

 
Balco said:
I just can’t believe they buyout Graham for $12,000,000 (not mitigated by any future coaching money) and Herm Edwards is the choice??? Should have just kept Graham. 

What a bizarre hire.
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I didn't think Graham was a great coach, but imo he was about as good as ASU should expect to have.  Graham >>>> Herm flippin Edwards.  WTF  That would probably the best thing to ever happen to Graham.

 
SPRINGDALE, Arkansas -

Washington State quarterback Luke Falk has won the 2017 Burlsworth Trophy over two-time recipient Baker Mayfield, the Burlsworth Foundation announced Monday.

The Burlsworth Trophy annually honors the most outstanding college football player in America who began his career as a walk-on.

Mayfield has now missed out on two awards that were thought to be in the bag for the fifth-year senior. Last week, Mason Rudolph won the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award. Mayfield is still a finalist for several more awards and is the frontrunner to win the Heisman Trophy.

Read Also: Mason Rudolph Wins Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award

He’s still up for the Walter Camp Player of the Year Award (most outstanding player), the Manning Award (quarterback award that takes bowl performance into consideration), Maxwell Award (best all-around), and Davey O’Brien Award (top quarterback) plus the Heisman Trophy.
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http://www.news9.com/story/36989682/falk-slips-by-mayfield-to-win-burlsworth-trophy

:lmao:

 
Story has made its way national, and OU running back is about as zero tolerance as it gets in the court of public opinion. This would have to be proven 100% to be nothing for him to have a chance, imo. 

 
FreeBaGeL said:
Surely I can't be the only one that sees the irony of using a team that never plays their biggest rival and historically the toughest matchup in their conference in a true road game as the shining example of playing true road games.
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Out of conference. I have no problem with conference rivals agreeing to play every year at a neutral site. In fact, I like it. George and Florida meet every year in Jacksonville. Cool. I would have no issue if the Iron Bowl were played at a neutral site every year.

 
Christo said:
Out of conference. I have no problem with conference rivals agreeing to play every year at a neutral site. In fact, I like it. George and Florida meet every year in Jacksonville. Cool. I would have no issue if the Iron Bowl were played at a neutral site every year.
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It's just such a random thing to fixate on.  No neutral site games but only out of conference.  What the weird? 

Doubly weird that a team is getting all this credit in your mind for playing on the road OOC when a big part of the reason they're doing it is probably because they don't play in any tough road environments otherwise, because they skip the only really tough road environment in their conference.

In your mind playing a neutral site game against a 6-6 FSU game alongside an incredibly tough road game at a top 5 Auburn team in one of the toughest environments in the country is something to complain about, but skipping Jordan Hare to play Auburn at a much easier neutral site while going on the road to FSU (who was only 3-3 at home this year) would be noble. 

Weird.

 
I’m a little nervous that Venables is going to be poached by Arkansas. I’m surprised that that’s the job he would take, but apparently they have contacted him. 

 
FreeBaGeL said:
It's just such a random thing to fixate on.  No neutral site games but only out of conference.  What the weird? 

Doubly weird that a team is getting all this credit in your mind for playing on the road OOC when a big part of the reason they're doing it is probably because they don't play in any tough road environments otherwise, because they skip the only really tough road environment in their conference.

In your mind playing a neutral site game against a 6-6 FSU game alongside an incredibly tough road game at a top 5 Auburn team in one of the toughest environments in the country is something to complain about, but skipping Jordan Hare to play Auburn at a much easier neutral site while going on the road to FSU (who was only 3-3 at home this year) would be noble. 

Weird.
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You're really trying hard to split hairs here.

If two schools want to agree to play their games at a neutral site, then certainly they have that right, regardless of whether they're schools in the same conference or not.  

That's far different than just months after the new playoff committee system was agreed to, Alabama cancels on an already schedule home and home series with Michigan State... because Alabama calculated the risks and decided that with the new system playing in OOC team's home venues is too risky. Playing a Florida State, a USC, and a Wisconsin every year gives the committee a game they want to see on the schedule, but without the additional risks other teams take by actually going into hostile environments to get the games the committee wants to see on their schedules.

To be honest, all teams should do what Alabama is doing, if getting in to the playoff is what matters most. But most schools are focused on giving their fans home games, especially home games against big schools. 

And that's what I hate most about this selection committee system and the poll system that preceded it. It encourages schools to avoid risk in their OOC scheduling. If you're a school, do you want to give your fans big home games.... or do you want to get in to the playoff? It's a spectrum. If you favor one, then you hurt the other. 

A true playoff system solves this spectrum problem. Simply give the big 5 conference winners an automatic trip to the playoff, and losing games in their OOC schedules won't hurt them at all. Add in 1 to 3 at large teams to the playoff and winning big games in their OOC schedules would help them a ton in getting in to the playoff if they don't win their conference. That makes big OOC games have a ton a benefit for a win, yet zero cost if it's a loss (because win the conference and you're still in). If we want to see better OOC scheduling, this is what needs to be done. 

 
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