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2017 College Football Thread: Hawaiian QB devastated to find out Jesus was "kinda rooting for Georgia" (2 Viewers)

Vols seem thrilled that Pruitt said 'a'ight' 50 times during his intro PC, which is a Saban trademark.  Part of why you hired him was to bring some Saban, but this doesn't seem healthy.

 
gump said:
Vols seem thrilled that Pruitt said 'a'ight' 50 times during his intro PC, which is a Saban trademark.  Part of why you hired him was to bring some Saban, but this doesn't seem healthy.
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He got hired because of what Smart is doing at Georgia. Tennessee is trying to get a piece of that. Pruitt isn't that level imo. 

 
Capella said:
He got hired because of what Smart is doing at Georgia. Tennessee is trying to get a piece of that. Pruitt isn't that level imo. 
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Yea I think they are the two most tenured under Saban...Kirby 11 years, Pruitt 8...Kirby younger and advanced earlier. Both molded early and follow Sabans path more than the others, defensive backfield specialists and born recruiters. Opposite of Mac.

 
Take a good long look at that commit list. Memorize as many names as you can.

Three years from now, you'll ask yourself the question, you'll think of those names, and the answer will unequivocally be "no". 

 
Existing players and recruits have been clamoring for Cristobal to be named the new head coach and I am very happy with it.  Most people realize that Taggart is a great recruiter but his coaching ability is average.  His put together a very good staff at Oregon and hopefully with Cristobal staying on many of the assistant coaches will remain at Oregon.

 
RUSF18 said:
Take a good long look at that commit list. Memorize as many names as you can.

Three years from now, you'll ask yourself the question, you'll think of those names, and the answer will unequivocally be "no". 
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Maybe one of the worst hires in the past few years. I cannot believe a program of that level would hire a coach in an attempt to save a few recruits. 

 
Don't Noonan said:
Existing players and recruits have been clamoring for Cristobal to be named the new head coach and I am very happy with it.  Most people realize that Taggart is a great recruiter but his coaching ability is average.  His put together a very good staff at Oregon and hopefully with Cristobal staying on many of the assistant coaches will remain at Oregon.
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lol players and recruits should not be deciding the head coach. That's ridiculous. That guy went 1-11 and 3-9 at freaking FIU, he's going to be so far over his head you won't even be able to see him.

In a league with Chip Kelly, Peterson and USC getting it together... :no:  

 
Capella said:
lol players and recruits should not be deciding the head coach. That's ridiculous. That guy went 1-11 and 3-9 at freaking FIU, he's going to be so far over his head you won't even be able to see him.

In a league with Chip Kelly, Peterson and USC getting it together... :no:  
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Oregon is on the rise and getting rid of Taggart will turn out to be a blessing.  I think he flames out at Florida State, especially if Leavitt stays at Oregon.   It is not easy to recruit to Oregon and Cristobal was named national recruiter of the year in 2015.  If Cristobal can maintain many of the current coaches it was a home run hire.

 
Now hold on here fellas, let's not forget the fact that Cristobal was able to guide his team to the zenith of College Football bowl games in 2011 where his feisty, upstart troops succumbed late to the juggernaut Marshall Thundering Herd in what was yet another classic Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl game.  :poursoneout:

He also won the Little Caesar's Bowl in 2010, so he has a long track record of successfully guiding his team to Bowl games that are sponsored by crappy chain food eateries. So I for one look forward to him leading the Ducks to the Cheribundi Tart Cherry Boca Raton Bowl next season or perhaps with a little fortuitous bouncing the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl.

 
Don't Noonan said:
Oregon is on the rise and getting rid of Taggart will turn out to be a blessing.  I think he flames out at Florida State, especially if Leavitt stays at Oregon.   It is not easy to recruit to Oregon and Cristobal was named national recruiter of the year in 2015.  If Cristobal can maintain many of the current coaches it was a home run hire.
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Of course 

 
I just can't believe a guy who got fired at FIU.......FIU...did nothing else other than recruit like a madman and got the oregon job. Breathtaking. 

 
Well then you will be in for a huge shock when Oregon reaches the college football playoff before Florida State, because Florida State will not with Taggart at the helm.  

 
Capella said:
I just can't believe a guy who got fired at FIU.......FIU...did nothing else other than recruit like a madman and got the oregon job. Breathtaking. 
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I think Oregon was ill-prepared for what happened.  They spent a lot of time, energy and resources landing Taggart and I don't think anybody was predicting a one and done season with him here.  Plus, by the time Taggart left, several of the big time openings had already been filled and that's not Oregon's fault at all. Taggart really put this team in a bad spot, but that's the nature of the beast.  

I've gone back and looked at Cristobal some more at FIU.  No, he wasn't great, but he inherited a moribund program that the prior (and first) coach left in ruins. The fact that he was able to land a kid like TY Hilton to a school that didn't have a football team until 2002 is pretty impressive and he did take that team to 2 bowl games, which, hey, everybody goes to a bowl game, but you know he didn't?  The guy before and after him at FIU.  Now, Butch Davis went 8-4 and they'll play in the Sasparilla Bowl, but he's a dirty cheater.

He's got pretty good team lined up for next year with a QB who can win him some games on his own.  He'll need a good OC (Mark Helfrich is available), hope that Leavitt stays (I have my doubts) and he'll need to continue to recruit.  I think the leash will be short and Oregon's 80 year-old booster is running out of time to see his dream come true.  Is it the best solution?  No, but again, Oregon didn't have a ton of options thanks to Taggart leaving them in the lurch.  

/Glass half full

 

 
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Yeah, well I for one look forward to seeing Taggart's performance when he loses another QB.  He was horrendous without Herbert this year.

 
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General Malaise said:
Yeah, well I for one look forward to seeing Taggart's performance when he loses another QB.  He was horrendous without Herbert this year.
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I mean Jimbo's QB died in week one and he went on to go 5-6 and then got 75 mil for it. There's not a lot of guys who have answers for that. 

 
General Malaise said:
I think Oregon was ill-prepared for what happened.  They spent a lot of time, energy and resources landing Taggart and I don't think anybody was predicting a one and done season with him here.  Plus, by the time Taggart left, several of the big time openings had already been filled and that's not Oregon's fault at all. Taggart really put this team in a bad spot, but that's the nature of the beast.  

I've gone back and looked at Cristobal some more at FIU.  No, he wasn't great, but he inherited a moribund program that the prior (and first) coach left in ruins. The fact that he was able to land a kid like TY Hilton to a school that didn't have a football team until 2002 is pretty impressive and he did take that team to 2 bowl games, which, hey, everybody goes to a bowl game, but you know he didn't?  The guy before and after him at FIU.  Now, Butch Davis went 8-4 and they'll play in the Sasparilla Bowl, but he's a dirty cheater.

He's got pretty good team lined up for next year with a QB who can win him some games on his own.  He'll need a good OC (Mark Helfrich is available), hope that Leavitt stays (I have my doubts) and he'll need to continue to recruit.  I think the leash will be short and Oregon's 80 year-old booster is running out of time to see his dream come true.  Is it the best solution?  No, but again, Oregon didn't have a ton of options thanks to Taggart leaving them in the lurch.  

/Glass half full

 
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FIU was a dumpster and he did some decent work there at time but it's hard to get past a guy going 1-11 at that place in his last season and getting rewarded for it with a top-30 job. He's a great recruiter but from what I understand he has little schematic ability sooooo..... :shrug:  

Oregon got caught a little late but they had way better options, but everybody there seems to be obsessed with keeping this once in a lifetime recruiting class. 

 
For those saying Cristobal was a horrible hire, who would have been a good hire for Oregon?  Sumlin?  Wilcox?  Harsin?  None of those guys looked great to me.  At least with Cristobal you keep the majority of the recruits and if he doesn't work out you can move on in a year or two.  He took over a horrid Florida International team and took them to their 1st 2 bowl games, had a bad year and got fired.  Saban vets his coaches pretty well and he hired him on.  Oregon will have a pretty good team next year so he should get off to a good start.  Taggart's play calling was awful without Herbert and his inability to make 2nd half adjustments was hard to watch.  How many times did Oregon have the ball near the 50 at the end of the half and instead of launching a hail mary in the end zone he just took a knee.  Really stupid coach.

 
Don't Noonan said:
For those saying Cristobal was a horrible hire, who would have been a good hire for Oregon?  Sumlin?  Wilcox?  Harsin?  None of those guys looked great to me.  At least with Cristobal you keep the majority of the recruits and if he doesn't work out you can move on in a year or two.  He took over a horrid Florida International team and took them to their 1st 2 bowl games, had a bad year and got fired.  Saban vets his coaches pretty well and he hired him on.  Oregon will have a pretty good team next year so he should get off to a good start.  Taggart's play calling was awful without Herbert and his inability to make 2nd half adjustments was hard to watch.  How many times did Oregon have the ball near the 50 at the end of the half and instead of launching a hail mary in the end zone he just took a knee.  Really stupid coach.
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Leavitt would've been better for starters. Sure Leach would have taken it, grand slam hire if they got him. Sumlin for sure, God he was so mediocre at TAMU but he's so much better than this guy. Definitely Wilcox too. I dunno, whole lot of guys. 

 
Sumlin would have been a slam dunk. He was pretty good in the same division as Bama, Auburn, and LSU. What he did at A&M should have easily translated to 10 wins in Eugene. 

 
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Sumlin would have been a slam dunk. He was pretty good in the same division as Bama, Auburn, and LSU. What he did at A&M should have easily translated to 10 wins in Eugene. 
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I was torn on Sumlin, watching him lose the UCLA game this year was hard to watch.  If he would have been able to keep a few Oregon coaches in tact I would have been okay with it.

 
Don't Noonan said:
I was torn on Sumlin, watching him lose the UCLA game this year was hard to watch.  If he would have been able to keep a few Oregon coaches in tact I would have been okay with it.
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Also if you hired Sumlin, the human coach centipede memes would be awesome!!

Jimbo would definitely be in the middle. 

 
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Capella said:
Leavitt would've been better for starters. Sure Leach would have taken it, grand slam hire if they got him. Sumlin for sure, God he was so mediocre at TAMU but he's so much better than this guy. Definitely Wilcox too. I dunno, whole lot of guys. 
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My first and second choices were Leavitt and Cristobal,  third was Sumlin assuming he could keep some current staff.  Leach would be awful and would never get an interview here.  Wilcox perhaps my 4th choice.  I am very happy with Cristobal,  time will tell.

 
Capella said:
 He's a great recruiter but from what I understand he has little schematic ability sooooo..... :shrug:  
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But you told me last season that recruiting is all that matters. And apparently you also had that same message for Noonan:

Capella said:
Remember noonan not listening to reason in the preseason? Gotta recruit better, that's pretty much all that matters. 
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I have no issue with the Herm Edwards hire besides the ESPN going away crap today. 

Todd Graham is one of the worst coaches I’ve ever seen and ASU is a 7-5 program. Why not try a guy like Edwards? What do you really have to lose? 

No reason ASU shouldn’t compete in the PAC :X  

 
I thought Neuheisel's point this week about the need for the Oregon coach to have CAL connections for recruiting made a lot of sense.

 
Now, as I watch Weber St vs James Madison instead of the Friday night PAC game, is when the reality that it will all be over soon starts to sink in.

 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
But you told me last season that recruiting is all that matters. And apparently you also had that same message for Noonan:
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I mean, yes obviously in the vain if you don't recruit you have absolutely no chance at all. But if coaching didn't matter a bit the Gators would be dominant every year. 

 
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JMU with a thrilling come from behind victory to beat Weber State in the FCS playoffs. 

Dukes trailed by 8 with a little over 3 minutes to go in game, and won with a 46-yd last second FG. :thumbup:

 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Now, as I watch Weber St vs James Madison instead of the Friday night PAC game, is when the reality that it will all be over soon starts to sink in.
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Hell of a game.  JMU is a fun team.  That D is awesome except for the fourth quarter tonight.  First time someone has scored more than 14 on them all year.

Playoff football is great and their regular season isn't diminished at all.  Homefield advantage is huge.

 
Capella said:
I mean, yes obviously in the vain if you don't recruit you have absolutely no chance at all. But if coaching didn't matter a bit the Gators would be dominant every year. 
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Keep moving the goalposts.   Your whole mantra has always been recruiting and you have no chance to be elite without it.  What I still can't figure out is why Florida State went after Taggart.   Sure he can recruit well but who can't at Florida State?  He can look like a deer in headlights on the sidelines when forced with a quick decision to go for it or not in a game.  His play calling is very frustrating.  I think Cristobal will be at Oregon longer than Taggart will be at FSU.

 
Don't Noonan said:
Keep moving the goalposts.   Your whole mantra has always been recruiting and you have no chance to be elite without it.  What I still can't figure out is why Florida State went after Taggart.   Sure he can recruit well but who can't at Florida State?  He can look like a deer in headlights on the sidelines when forced with a quick decision to go for it or not in a game.  His play calling is very frustrating.  I think Cristobal will be at Oregon longer than Taggart will be at FSU.
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That....that has never changed. That is rule #1-3. But that doesn't mean you are elite because you recruit well either. When I said that's all that matters, that is true if you want to win a national title. But you still need solid coaches. I literally cannot believe I have to explain that.

Shame on you @PlasmaDogPlasma, don't expect that from you. Smh ??‍♂️ 

 
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Capella said:
That....that has never changed. That is rule #1-3. But that doesn't mean you are elite because you recruit well either. When I said that's all that matters, that is true if you want to win a national title. But you still need solid coaches. I literally cannot believe I have to explain that.

Shame on you @PlasmaDogPlasma, don't expect that from you. Smh ??‍♂️ 
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You don't have to explain anything, we are teaching you a lesson.   Pay attention! 

 
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