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2018 NHL Thread: Cappy is happy while the rest of us pray to the ping pong gods for Tuesday night (1 Viewer)

Sounds like Malkin back.in lineup tonight for Pens vs Flyers

@NHLAdamK: Penguins at morning skate:
Guentzel-Crosby-Rust
Bjugstad-Malkin-Kessel
Pearson-McCann-Simon
Wilson-Cullen-Hornqvist

Pettersson-Letang
Dumoulin-Johnson
Maatta-Riikola

 
JaxBill said:
Murray came up huge for Penguins. 

Malkin could be looking at a suspension here

@YahooSportsNHL: Super ugly stick swing from Geno Malkin. Yikes. https://twitter.com/BarstoolJordie/status/1095149297895657472/photo/1
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Murray had a real good game but they helped him out a lot. 51 shots on goal plus another 20? missed. And a lot of them better opportunities than the actual recorded shots. Frustrating to watch these guys try to offense. 

And Malkin’s screws are still loose. He should get at least 5 games for that, luckily he didn’t connect. What a meathead. 

 
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I hope he called an Uber home.

@JoeyMacHockey: Just to recap: Pastrnak thumb injury and needed surgery after falling after a team event. He will be sidelined at least two weeks. Sweeney said it was an accident and Pastrnak is upset that he’ll be out. The GM took the positive side, saying the team will get a rested player back

 
55-60 saves the other night for the Georgiev against the Leafs. 

That was sick. Nice steal of a win.  

Love watching the Leafs play this year. 

Speed. 

No, they're dynamic.  

 
rockaction said:
55-60 saves the other night for the Georgiev against the Leafs. 

That was sick. Nice steal of a win.  

Love watching the Leafs play this year. 

Speed. 

No, they're dynamic.  
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Leafs actually played really well (aside from their PP, which is simply off the charts poor this year, all year) - was impressive to see Georgiev stand on his head like that (on his birthday to boot!) with such an incredible performance.

Don't like watching the Leafs lose, but if you like hockey, you have to like watching a goalie performance like that -- place the entire team on his shoulders and staved off 55 shots.

 
Stompin' Tom Connors said:
Leafs actually played really well (aside from their PP, which is simply off the charts poor this year, all year) - was impressive to see Georgiev stand on his head like that (on his birthday to boot!) with such an incredible performance.

Don't like watching the Leafs lose, but if you like hockey, you have to like watching a goalie performance like that -- place the entire team on his shoulders and staved off 55 shots.
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Loved watching Hyman stick up for Marner, even though the play looked more like an accident than a cheap hit.  

 
rockaction said:
Loved watching Hyman stick up for Marner, even though the play looked more like an accident than a cheap hit.  
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LOL, you are right about looking like an accident. We are a decidedly "unheavy" team, even with the addition of Muzzin. We could use some of that old Gilmore/Tucker/Domi/Wendel/Tiger grit. Kadri brings it, but that's about it.

 
The Wild are unwatchable. Dubnyk is the most overrated player in human history. Staal, Granlund and Zucker are worthless. Suter has one foot in the grave. Good times ahead.

 
Think maybe it's time for Zibanejad, Kreider and Zuuc to get the flu or something.  Pretty sure Rangers couldn't be competitive in a game without them and lose for Hughes would be in full effect.

 
guru_007 said:
Think maybe it's time for Zibanejad, Kreider and Zuuc to get the flu or something.  Pretty sure Rangers couldn't be competitive in a game without them and lose for Hughes would be in full effect.
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Zibanejad has been unbelievable. If he keeps this up for the next couple years while the rest of the team fills in around him they'll be back to being a real contender much quicker than expected. 

 
BeTheMatch said:
The Wild are unwatchable. Dubnyk is the most overrated player in human history. Staal, Granlund and Zucker are worthless. Suter has one foot in the grave. Good times ahead.
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not sure why last night would lead you to the Dubnyk conclusion.  only one you can really pick on him for was the Giroux goal but that was a hell of a shot. 

when Fenton trades Granlund for a bag of pucks and he starts skating with finishers he's going to be a point per game player.

 
Wild may have blown a 3-1 lead and lost another game at home as they do everything they can to not make the playoffs, but Rask probably pulled his groin so that was a pretty big win IMO. 

 
Bill Brasky said:
not sure why last night would lead you to the Dubnyk conclusion.  only one you can really pick on him for was the Giroux goal but that was a hell of a shot. 

when Fenton trades Granlund for a bag of pucks and he starts skating with finishers he's going to be a point per game player.
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Absolutely. But he's worthless to THIS team. Because they can't hit open nets. He should probably have about 200 assists.

 
Bill Brasky said:
not sure why last night would lead you to the Dubnyk conclusion.  only one you can really pick on him for was the Giroux goal but that was a hell of a shot.
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I thought several of the goals last night were on Dubnyk. Make a save once in a while. When the team needs it. And he never - EVER - takes accountability for anything. He's not afraid to throw the rest of the team under the bus, but I've never heard him say he's got to be better or a loss was on him.

Last night didn't lead me to this conclusion. The last three years have led me to that conclusion. He is mentally weak. He epitomizes this team's inconsistency. He gives up on plays all the time. He'd rather complain to the official - while the puck is still in play - than just shut up and make a save. Constantly lets in soft goals. Does the D hang him out sometimes? Sure. But the Wild defense is actually better than most of the crap teams in this league are rolling out there, so I don't think that's valid to blame them.

Has he been very good at times? Yes. Just not nearly enough. And nowhere close to as often as people seem to think. An all-star? That's a joke.

 
BeTheMatch said:
I thought several of the goals last night were on Dubnyk. Make a save once in a while. When the team needs it. And he never - EVER - takes accountability for anything. He's not afraid to throw the rest of the team under the bus, but I've never heard him say he's got to be better or a loss was on him.

Last night didn't lead me to this conclusion. The last three years have led me to that conclusion. He is mentally weak. He epitomizes this team's inconsistency. He gives up on plays all the time. He'd rather complain to the official - while the puck is still in play - than just shut up and make a save. Constantly lets in soft goals. Does the D hang him out sometimes? Sure. But the Wild defense is actually better than most of the crap teams in this league are rolling out there, so I don't think that's valid to blame them.

Has he been very good at times? Yes. Just not nearly enough. And nowhere close to as often as people seem to think. An all-star? That's a joke.
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Sounds like Elliott ####ed up again. 

 
Bill Brasky said:
not sure why last night would lead you to the Dubnyk conclusion.  only one you can really pick on him for was the Giroux goal but that was a hell of a shot. 

when Fenton trades Granlund for a bag of pucks and he starts skating with finishers he's going to be a point per game player.
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Sounds familiar.

 
Fenton officially got permission today from the owner to blow up the Wild. So we'll see how much happens in the next 11 days and how much happens this summer. Would think you have to take whatever you can get for Staal, Fehr, Pateryn, etc. Maybe they can swing something bigger with Granlund, Zucker and/or Coyle. Any playoff teams need a goalie?

 
Stompin' Tom Connors said:
Leafs actually played really well (aside from their PP, which is simply off the charts poor this year, all year)
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I guess I fished my wish with their performance against the Avs Tuesday. We'll see if it holds up going forward. A big difference was spreading out a little more and not just have Marner shoot it in. A bigger difference will be their ability to control entry, which is something that has been sorely lacking.

 
Not sure I understand the Cam Talbot to Flyers rumor. Yeah he's Carter Hart's buddy but his contract is over at end of year. Flyers would have to trade a goalie back. Elliott provides a little cap relief for Oilers but his contract is expiring too.

Whole idea sounds kind of meh.

 
BeTheMatch said:
Fenton officially got permission today from the owner to blow up the Wild. So we'll see how much happens in the next 11 days and how much happens this summer. Would think you have to take whatever you can get for Staal, Fehr, Pateryn, etc. Maybe they can swing something bigger with Granlund, Zucker and/or Coyle. Any playoff teams need a goalie?
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Yeah we do, but you gotta take Allen back. 

 
BeTheMatch said:
Fenton officially got permission today from the owner to blow up the Wild. So we'll see how much happens in the next 11 days and how much happens this summer. Would think you have to take whatever you can get for Staal, Fehr, Pateryn, etc. Maybe they can swing something bigger with Granlund, Zucker and/or Coyle. Any playoff teams need a goalie?
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First Fletcher traded so many picks for virtually nothing. Remember Martin Hanzal? In exchange, the Wild sent a haul of draft picks, including a 2017 first-round pick, a 2018 second-round pick, and a 2019 conditional fourth-round pick. For a three month rental.

I’m fine with the Wild making some trades but get something back for chrissakes! “Blowing it up” isn’t trading an ok/decent player for a WORSE player! Get some picks. Win a trade for a change or at least break even.

As we’ve seen, Fenton making moves just to make moves can result in less than the sum. You tinker too much and you’re left with more questions than answers.

 
BeTheMatch said:
I thought several of the goals last night were on Dubnyk. Make a save once in a while. When the team needs it. And he never - EVER - takes accountability for anything. He's not afraid to throw the rest of the team under the bus, but I've never heard him say he's got to be better or a loss was on him.

Last night didn't lead me to this conclusion. The last three years have led me to that conclusion. He is mentally weak. He epitomizes this team's inconsistency. He gives up on plays all the time. He'd rather complain to the official - while the puck is still in play - than just shut up and make a save. Constantly lets in soft goals. Does the D hang him out sometimes? Sure. But the Wild defense is actually better than most of the crap teams in this league are rolling out there, so I don't think that's valid to blame them.

Has he been very good at times? Yes. Just not nearly enough. And nowhere close to as often as people seem to think. An all-star? That's a joke.
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Updating... Last night against a putrid Devils team, Dubnyk turned in one of the ugliest performances of the season by any goalie. And continued to blame his teammates. And accept no responsibility basically. If you'd like a good laugh, check out the youtube highlights from the game. A golden retriever would've stopped at least three of those goals.

He's dead last in the league in goals saved above expectation: https://public.tableau.com/profile/sean.tierney#!/vizhome/GoalieChartspoweredbyevolving-hockey_com/Goalssavedaboveexpectation

 
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Howard pulled after giving up goal 4 and 5 early in third. (Howard looked shaky but DET was giving up a bunch of odd man rushes)

Red Wings respond with 2 quick goals to cut it to 5-3.

 
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Thorough domination of Toronto tonight by Arizona. Good God, did Toronto look bad. 2-0 and it wasn't that close. 

And if Auston Matthews keeps playing the left side of the power play with a left handed shot, I'm going to go bat#### real soon. That's an awful set up. He's firing away at no angle. 

Arizona three points out of a playoff spot. 

 
Warms my heart to see Toronto get dominated by a team the Blues just wiped the ice with. Nashville is gonna start feeling the heat here soon. 

The owner of the Blues sat on the glass in Colorado today and went around exchanging high fives with Blues fans in Kroenke’s arena as the Blues won. Pretty ####in awesome move. 

 
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rockaction said:
Thorough domination of Toronto tonight by Arizona. Good God, did Toronto look bad. 2-0 and it wasn't that close. 

And if Auston Matthews keeps playing the left side of the power play with a left handed shot, I'm going to go bat#### real soon. That's an awful set up. He's firing away at no angle. 

Arizona three points out of a playoff spot. 
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Leafs simply got out-hustled all night in all three areas the ice, especially in their defensive zone. They looked flat and unispired.

Coyotes -- who definitely are speedy and took advantage of their quickness all night -- put on a forecheck clinic. Babcock got outcoached, and did not make as many adjustments as he should have.

Bad game for both players and coaching staff. 

 
Stompin' Tom Connors said:
Leafs simply got out-hustled all night in all three areas the ice, especially in their defensive zone. They looked flat and unispired.

Coyotes -- who definitely are speedy and took advantage of their quickness all night -- put on a forecheck clinic. Babcock got outcoached, and did not make as many adjustments as he should have.

Bad game for both players and coaching staff. 
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Yeah, that was a down game for Toronto for sure. I like watching them, but the other night was a disaster. Arizona did surprise me with their team speed, unless Toronto just was totally flat. They got out skated and out hustled. 

 
rockaction said:
Yeah, that was a down game for Toronto for sure. I like watching them, but the other night was a disaster. Arizona did surprise me with their team speed, unless Toronto just was totally flat. They got out skated and out hustled. 
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Coyote's style of play in terms of leveraging speed to fore- and backcheck and clog up the neutral zone has been noticeable over the last few years. Definitely a part of their gameplan.

Adding Galchenyuk was a catalyst, as was getting Grabner in FA. Vinnie Hinostroza is also a pretty speedy center, adding to what I would generally think is one of the fastest rosters in the NHL. 

They can be a fun team to watch but their goal output wasn't always consistent.

 
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