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2021 College football thread - Auburn’s gotta Auburn. (3 Viewers)
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identikit
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
Desert_Power
Footballguy
identikit
Footballguy
JaxBill
Footballguy
With the wider college hashes, I've heard the "you can be too close" argument before but
I wanted to give him credit for saying that KU should go for 2 but then he threw out the analytics book line.
Entertaining, but not a rocket surgeon.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
That Texas loss took away some of the sting. Sark looking for job tomorrow?
JaxBill
Footballguy
Speaking of rocket surgeons listened to the Miss State feed of their game at Auburn.
Miss State was leading by 15 late meaning you need a 2 pt conv one way or another.
Auburn scored a TD to cut it to 9 pending PAT. He was apoplectic that Auburn went for 2 and when it failed, he said they basically destroyed any chances of comeback. He ignored the fact that if they kicked the first PAT and went for 2 on 2nd Td unsuccessfully then game was over.
Somebody needs to send him an autographed copy of that analytics book.
Miss State was leading by 15 late meaning you need a 2 pt conv one way or another.
Auburn scored a TD to cut it to 9 pending PAT. He was apoplectic that Auburn went for 2 and when it failed, he said they basically destroyed any chances of comeback. He ignored the fact that if they kicked the first PAT and went for 2 on 2nd Td unsuccessfully then game was over.
Somebody needs to send him an autographed copy of that analytics book.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Washington State trying to knock Oregon out of top 4. 14-14 at halftime
culdeus
Footballguy
This is Texas' first 5-game losing streak since 1956
Steve Sarkisian is now 50-41 all-time as a head coach. He has just two seasons where he has won more than 7 games.
Texas hasn't finished in the AP Top 20 in back-to-back years since 2008-2009.
From 1901-2015, Kansas beat Texas twice. They've also beat them twice since 2016.
Texas was favored by 31 points over Kansas.
Sarkisian has finished better than 3rd in his division just once as a head coach.
Texas has 52 blue-chip recruits on their roster. Kansas has 1.
Texas has to beat West Virginia and Kansas State to make a bowl. If they do not, it'll be their first time missing a bowl since the Charlie Strong era.
Tom Herman never had more than a two-game losing streak in a season. Sark has almost tripled that in his debut season.
Ever since Bevo's cowardly attack on Uga in the Sugar Bowl, the Longhorns' total wins have decreased each season (10-8-7-4)
Texas has lost consecutive games at home for the first time since 2016.
Texas had won 79 straight games as a 24+ point favorite.
Until tonight Nebraska had more Big12 wins since 2010 than Kansas.
Steve Sarkisian is now 50-41 all-time as a head coach. He has just two seasons where he has won more than 7 games.
Texas hasn't finished in the AP Top 20 in back-to-back years since 2008-2009.
From 1901-2015, Kansas beat Texas twice. They've also beat them twice since 2016.
Texas was favored by 31 points over Kansas.
Sarkisian has finished better than 3rd in his division just once as a head coach.
Texas has 52 blue-chip recruits on their roster. Kansas has 1.
Texas has to beat West Virginia and Kansas State to make a bowl. If they do not, it'll be their first time missing a bowl since the Charlie Strong era.
Tom Herman never had more than a two-game losing streak in a season. Sark has almost tripled that in his debut season.
Ever since Bevo's cowardly attack on Uga in the Sugar Bowl, the Longhorns' total wins have decreased each season (10-8-7-4)
Texas has lost consecutive games at home for the first time since 2016.
Texas had won 79 straight games as a 24+ point favorite.
Until tonight Nebraska had more Big12 wins since 2010 than Kansas.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Riverboat Lance getting it done for Kansas
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Leipold might not make a second season at Kansas.
ChiefD
Footballguy
I know Texas is having a rough patch right now, but you gotta give Kansas big time credit for playing hard and believing they could win.
Leipold didn't even get on campus until MAY of this year.
Those kids have played hard for him all year and let's be honest - their talent cupboard is pretty bare compared to a program like Texas. But he's done a great job so far.
Leipold didn't even get on campus until MAY of this year.
Those kids have played hard for him all year and let's be honest - their talent cupboard is pretty bare compared to a program like Texas. But he's done a great job so far.
gump
Footballguy
Commitment and opportunity. UF’s revenue is double Ole Miss…recruiting isn’t comparable…and you get out of the division and neighborhood of the GOAT.
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culdeus
Footballguy
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
The big knock on Leipold here was recruiting. His classes at UB were consistently bottom-half of the conference, somewhere in the 100-ish range nationwide. Coming from D-3 in Wisconsin, he did not have the established pipelines that you'd hope most coaches would.
Where he excels is maximizing the talent of the players he does have, and finding some diamonds-in-the-rough under-the-radar guys. During his time here, he completely reinvented the entire offense from a spread passing offense in his first years into maybe the best running game in the country in the last years, simply based on personnel. In terms of gameplan, scheme, he's absolutely a tremendous coach. It doesn't surprise me that he's been able to take the hodgepodge of players on a short turnaround time and at least make them somewhat competitive.
The recruiting point worries me though. You can recruit comparatively poorly and beat Toledo and Northern Illinois. It's a lot more difficult do that against Big 12 schools.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Thanks for the info. Hopefully he has some good recruiters on his staff to help things.
The Big 12 is obviously going to change its landscape over the next few years, so it will be interesting to see how much recruiting changes. Keeping up with whoever is left/comes in will be an entirely different battle.
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Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
BigJohn
Footballguy
I lost it when you see him running directly for his parents. Knew exactly where they were. Left his teammates and ran to the opposite endzone for them.....
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
I had changed the thread title to reference my alma mater beating our cross county rival Thiel. The Tomcats currently have a 37 game losing streak.
To put it in perspective:
1. The current D3 record is 53 games by the Earlham Quakers from 2013-2018. They ended the program after the fifth consecutive losing season.
2. The Thiel seniors who played their last game yesterday did not win a game in their college careers: 0-30 (the team did not play the spring season the conference had earlier this year.).
That’s a a four pack of Yikes Hard Lemonade.
To put it in perspective:
1. The current D3 record is 53 games by the Earlham Quakers from 2013-2018. They ended the program after the fifth consecutive losing season.
2. The Thiel seniors who played their last game yesterday did not win a game in their college careers: 0-30 (the team did not play the spring season the conference had earlier this year.).
That’s a a four pack of Yikes Hard Lemonade.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Kiffin to LSU ??? Reading rumors on the twitters
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JaxBill
Footballguy
@jasondickaf: I’m witnessing a Kansas football fan experience joy for the first time. This was at 14-0. https://twitter.com/jasondickaf/status/1459713672687796224/photo/1
RC94
Footballguy
Jayded
Footballguy
Thinking on playoff expansion, if we're going to get bigger, I still want to see the regular season as meaningful. I'm curious as to others' thoughts on something like this 7 team version outlined below:
All P5 conference champions*, 1 G5, 1 Wildcard
* If the P5 champion is below 15th/20th in committee rankings, they forfeit their auto-bid in favor of another wildcard
Round 1
Playoffs them proceed with lowest vs. highest remaining in the existing bowl format
This only adds one week additional of games, makes the regular season matter as teams strive to be the 1 seed and/or win their respective conference, and guarantees a non-P5 team a shot at a title. You could also get some really interesting first round matchups against teams that rarely play and/or in conditions they avoid (i.e. Bama playing in the snow if they were a lower seed).
All P5 conference champions*, 1 G5, 1 Wildcard
* If the P5 champion is below 15th/20th in committee rankings, they forfeit their auto-bid in favor of another wildcard
Round 1
- 1 seed gets a bye
- 2 vs. 7 at 2
- 3 vs. 6 at 3
- 4 vs. 5 at 4
Playoffs them proceed with lowest vs. highest remaining in the existing bowl format
This only adds one week additional of games, makes the regular season matter as teams strive to be the 1 seed and/or win their respective conference, and guarantees a non-P5 team a shot at a title. You could also get some really interesting first round matchups against teams that rarely play and/or in conditions they avoid (i.e. Bama playing in the snow if they were a lower seed).
culdeus
Footballguy
For this to really work you need to drop the conference championship games and make those part of the playoff lead-in rather than as they often are an annoyance. One of the central problems is the SEC has to face off two teams that should be in they playoffs, but one team (typically) is going to walk out of that game with 2 losses.
I'll ask the question, who really cares about conference titles anymore? Isn't getting to and winning in the playoffs the right idea?
Why not a format where there are forced games across the top P5 conference teams rather than forcing the P5 to eat their own, or play a meaningless game vs. a Georgia Tech team or the like.
dhockster
Footballguy
I like what you have here. I would prefer going with the 12 team playoff, so the top 4 teams get byes. Automatic qualifiers would be Power 5 conference winners and highest ranked group of 5 team. other 6 teams would be wildcards. Round of 12 would be played Christmas weekend, quarterfinals would be played New Years eve weekend, semis a week later and championship two weeks after.
More teams means the regular season means less than under your plan, but giving 4 teams byes gives those teams a distinct advantage, so it benefits those having a great vs. good season.
dhockster
Footballguy
So if Alabama wins out and beats an unbeaten Georgia in the SEC title game, they and Georgia would be in the playoff. If Oregon and Ohio State win out, they are both probably in, Leaving Cincinnati out.
The big question is if Alabama loses a close game to Georgia in the SEC championship game, and Oregon and Ohio State win out, does a 2 lose Alabama team get into the playoff over an undefeated Cincinnati team? I say yes. Not that I agree with that, but I think the NCAA will do whatever it can to appease the power 5 schools.
The big question is if Alabama loses a close game to Georgia in the SEC championship game, and Oregon and Ohio State win out, does a 2 lose Alabama team get into the playoff over an undefeated Cincinnati team? I say yes. Not that I agree with that, but I think the NCAA will do whatever it can to appease the power 5 schools.
Capella
Footballguy
Of course Alabama would in your second scenario. I doubt it would even be a conversation on the committee.
I like this idea. Anything to take the upper part of the bracket away from biased selectors and put it on the field where it belongs is good by me.
strykerpks
Footballguy
@Steve Tasker
In retrospect 7 wins might have been ambitious. But give him time. The recruits will eventually follow if he puts up a signature win or two per year.
culdeus
Footballguy
gump
Footballguy
Jayded
Footballguy
The ONLY reason ND is in the conversation is because of how bad the top is this year. ND shouldn't sniff the playoffs with how weak our schedule turned into and how we've played, but it's entirely possible we sneak into the end because of the forthcoming chaos.
However, if my options are Michigan State/Pittsburgh in some nothing-bowl vs. a likely curb stomping by Georgia, I still probably take the Georgia game. I suppose making the playoffs is better since there doesn't appear to be any second tier major bowl matchup/win we could hope for.
However, if my options are Michigan State/Pittsburgh in some nothing-bowl vs. a likely curb stomping by Georgia, I still probably take the Georgia game. I suppose making the playoffs is better since there doesn't appear to be any second tier major bowl matchup/win we could hope for.
General Malaise
Footballguy
"Washington Announces Leadership Change"......that's how we're saying "Jimmy got fired" now?
dhockster
Footballguy
I guess that would be the ultimate insult to Cincinnati, if ND got in over them when they beat ND by 11 at Notre Dame
Jayded
Footballguy
ND wouldn't and shouldn't sneak in at the expense of Cincinnati despite this committee's amnesia with respect to Michigan/Michigan State.
Alabama would have to lose to Georgia in the SEC championship (or earlier) and Oregon would have to lose somewhere along the way. I think Georgia is probably in no matter what. I'm assuming Cincinnati gets in if they stay undefeated. Big Ten champ is likely in, especially if it's Ohio State taking care of the remaining teams. Then you'd be down to a 2 loss Alabama vs. 2 loss Oregon vs. 1 loss ND. That's the scenario where ND would sneak in IMO.
I'm not in favor of putting a 2-loss Alabama team in, especially with their cupcake non-conference schedule. They beat Mississippi and lost to Texas A&M (the only 2 decent teams they have played) and barely beat a bad Florida team. The rest of their schedule was weak.
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