We're going to miss Mullen. Hope he gets back soon.Mullen Arnette on IR as expected
I like to think that Gruden is not racist after working with and coaching so many men of color. What do I know though? I do know it was a very stupid thing for him to write in an email. He is going to get disciplined.Gruden's explanation was that he uses the term 'rubber lips' to describe liars and this was him extending that odd practice to imply that Smith was a huge liar during the CBA negotiations. It comes across as 'racist/racial' but if he's being honest in his explanation, it wasn't. Dumb and weird, yes. Racial, no.
I'm sure there will be a witch-hunt investigation and if more instances of racial stuff come out, then I'll change my stance, but if this is his only racial comment in decades of coaching, then I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe his explanation.
for real. dude was straight balling. he will be missed big time. these guys and incognito(probably) won't be back until after the bye week. so week 9. they will really need them for week 10 against the chiefs.We're going to miss Mullen. Hope he gets back soon.
i doubt he's a racist. however, he is an arrogant, irascible, irritable, oldish, rich, white guy. in a position of absolute power. hard not to be an ####### in that position. his inability to be genuinely contrite, will probably add to his punishment. deserved or not.I like to think that Gruden is not racist after working with and coaching so many men of color. What do I know though? I do know it was a very stupid thing for him to write in an email. He is going to get disciplined.
It`s the timing that has me curious ,why him and why now ?i doubt he's a racist. however, he is an arrogant, irascible, irritable, oldish, rich, white guy. in a position of absolute power. hard not to be an ####### in that position. his inability to be genuinely contrite, will probably add to his punishment. deserved or not.
the whole thing is really dumb.
From an ESPN article:It`s the timing that has me curious ,why him and why now ?
Hindsight people ...HINDSIGHT lolFrom an ESPN article:
The email came to light during the NFL's investigation of workplace misconduct with the Washington Football Team, as "the league was informed of the existence of emails that raised issues beyond the scope of that investigation," according to McCarthy. Senior league executives reviewed the content of more than 650,000 emails, including the one the Journal reported was written by Gruden to Bruce Allen, then the president of the Washington Football Team. The NFL then sent pertinent emails to the Raiders for review.
This also means that someone from the NFL probably leaked it to the Wall Street Journal.
Saw an interesting bit about how everything regarding the wft investigation is sealed. But this email makes it to the press. Horse ####.From an ESPN article:
The email came to light during the NFL's investigation of workplace misconduct with the Washington Football Team, as "the league was informed of the existence of emails that raised issues beyond the scope of that investigation," according to McCarthy. Senior league executives reviewed the content of more than 650,000 emails, including the one the Journal reported was written by Gruden to Bruce Allen, then the president of the Washington Football Team. The NFL then sent pertinent emails to the Raiders for review.
This also means that someone from the NFL probably leaked it to the Wall Street Journal.
I did the same thing. Posted m6 breaking news.Arnette, Mullen and Carrier to IR.
Nixon and Richard activated.
I absolutely believe Gruden's explanation.I like to think that Gruden is not racist after working with and coaching so many men of color. What do I know though? I do know it was a very stupid thing for him to write in an email. He is going to get disciplined.
Rationally this is a non-story but we don't live in rational times.I absolutely believe Gruden's explanation.
It's plausible on every level. The guy has been coaching NFL players for decades, what's more plausible that he hates all black people or he thinks Demaurice Smith is a lying ####### and expressed that in a personal email to a friend who probably agreed?
This is a non-story.
Give the guy credit he made it seven snaps into this season.Trent Brown to IR. Let me put on my shocked face.
To be fair to Gruden, moving Brown was a great move that most of us understood at the time even though the Raiders were blasted for it by the media.Trent Brown to IR. Let me put on my shocked face.
Dude......no one is arguing this.You will never convince me that Jaylon Smith wouldn't habe an immediate upgrade for this defense.
Chicago O-line opening up Lanes and RBs gashing the Raider d. How many 8-9 yard rushes so far? Not even halftime.
How.many 3rd down conversions?
The refs have killed the Raider d-line but it's no excuse to get manhandled by the Chicago O-line.
I mostly agree.Gonna call this right now, even if the Raiders win today that 3-0 start was clearly a mirage.
This team won't compete as long as the coaching staff is filled with retread yes men. Even if they miraculously get to 4-1 they will be lucky to go 9-8
Mayock will get the axe next so Gruden will remain. But it is increasingly clear that Gruden is miscast as a head coach. He's an OC not a team builder.
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Possibly true but Carr will never be better than he has been under Gruden.I mostly agree.
Eta: I think Gruden isn’t even an Good OC.
Been saying this for so long that I am tired of saying it. I look forward to the day that the Raiders move on from Gruden.Gonna call this right now, even if the Raiders win today that 3-0 start was clearly a mirage.
This team won't compete as long as the coaching staff is filled with retread yes men. Even if they miraculously get to 4-1 they will be lucky to go 9-8
Mayock will get the axe next so Gruden will remain. But it is increasingly clear that Gruden is miscast as a head coach. He's an OC not a team builder.
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I was against hiring Gruden but I have to acknowledge the positive impact he has had on Carr's play.Been saying this for so long that I am tired of saying it. I look forward to the day that the Raiders move on from Gruden.
Those early penalties on Crosby and Ngkoue were, to quote the great Sherman T. Potter "HORSE PUCKEY!!!"Ridiculous loss.
If we had half of the penalties and dropped passes as we did, it would have been a win.
maybe. team looked like ####Ridiculous loss.
If we had half of the penalties and dropped passes as we did, it would have been a win.
Agreed. Some bad calls, I agree, but we were flat as hell and could’ve overcome the deficit if they just got it together for more than 1 drive.maybe. team looked like ####
Don't forget the toilets overflowing (Oak), or Pittsburgh fans getting tossed off the mezzanine (LA)...or Charger fans getting stabbed at The Murph (home-away-from-home).I'm just here to say the thread title is totally Raiders.
Nice crib Raider (I don't want to say Nation because that doosh JT The Brick hi-jacked it) fans. It might not have the aura of many years of puke in the stands like in Oakland (at least yet), but you can always find that in an old casino in Vegas.
yep. o-line. poor tackling. penalties. bad play calling. drops/missed throws.I didn't watch the game today, but if I had to guess by the score what the main issue was, it has to be the Oline... Those who sat through this garbage, am I right?
I put this one as much, or more, on the d-line. To be fair the refs did them no favors early and I think that got into their heads. But the Bears LT is 157 years old & their RT went down in the 1st, yet they were consistently gashed for 8+ yard carries and 3rd down conversions while getting limited pressure (or inconsistent may be more fair and Fields is mobile).yep. o-line. poor tackling. penalties. bad play calling. drops/missed throws.
Don't forget the toilets overflowing (Oak), or Pittsburgh fans getting tossed off the mezzanine (LA)...or Charger fans getting stabbed at The Murph (home-away-from-home).
After watching the highlights, I saw a lot of this. They were gashed by a RB named Kahlil Herbert. Very fitting name for a player doing well against the Raiders btw... I've said it before, no matter who's coaching, playing or running this cluster of an organization, they have a habit of making backups look like HOFers.I put this one as much, or more, on the d-line. To be fair the refs did them no favors early and I think that got into their heads. But the Bears LT is 157 years old & their RT went down in the 1st, yet they were consistently gashed for 8+ yard carries and 3rd down conversions while getting limited pressure (or inconsistent may be more fair and Fields is mobile).
A better defensive coordinator should have been able to scheme into containing a rookie with a subpar O-line.
They were lucky to even have a chance at victory with 90 seconds left in the fourth.
Agree about the Raiders o-line but it's not like Chicago is running out a significantly better line and they lost their RT during the game. How could the Raider D line not take advantage of that?Bruno2 said:After watching the highlights, I saw a lot of this. They were gashed by a RB named Kahlil Herbert. Very fitting name for a player doing well against the Raiders btw... I've said it before, no matter who's coaching, playing or running this cluster of an organization, they have a habit of making backups look like HOFers.
This offense should never only score 9 pts. Proof right before our eyes, when you don't have an Oline, you can't do squat on offense. I understand cutting Trent Brown loose, but to trade your center and starting guard in the same off season and hoping your backups are good enough was a bad idea. Losing Good and Incognito right off the bat was out of their control, I understand that. But leaving the interior Oline so thin and banking on a 38 year old with an Achilles issue was a gamble that didn't pay off.
imho, it's play calling. if i know what they're going to do, a lot of the time, so does everyone else. and then if you don't have the horses to implement your will, you ain't doing squat. for example: what do you think the audible "dame liiliard" is? i have been saying for years, that the game and players has passed gruden by. he's not an offensive genius. he certainly not an innovator.Agree about the Raiders o-line but it's not like Chicago is running out a significantly better line and they lost their RT during the game. How could the Raider D line not take advantage of that?
Lord I hope Gruden hasn't lost the team.
and don't forget this.miller 46 career starts
simpson 2
james 1 start at center, in college + pro
good 16
LW NFL debut
y'all didn't want more linemen. this is scary.