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I was not saying to move him back, I was saying that apparently the Raiders staff believes that they can move him back to RT. I am not committed to saying that is right or wrong. Just passing on the apparent reporting of the Raider staff thinking. My only thought is that Miller struggled early and he was Cable's guy... I wouldn't be surprised if that happens with Leatherwood as well.
I agree with everything mentioned until the last paragraph. I think Mayock is gone since he was part of the historically bad drafts. Just a few posts up we are discussing Leatherwood possibly moving back to tackle. Even if LW eventually becomes a usable guard, that is still a miss for a first round pick.and y'all need to stop with these coaching hires.
sweeny is only being mentioned because gruden drafted 47 clemson guys and dabo came to watch them. that's the ONLY reason he was on the sideline.
harbaugh finally beat OSU. he ain't going anywhere. and he's a douchenozzle, just like gruden. his way is the only way.
payton is under contract and ain't going anywhere.
McDaniels is a possibility, but i want nothing to do with him. but he makes the most sense.
biennemy is a drunk. and we have zero weapons compared to KC. his "skillset" won't translate.
they will most likely get a low profile, offensively minded coach. and keep the lame duck DC and GM in place. furthering the rebuild even farther down the road.
Again, why is everyone capping Leatherwood's upside at "usable guard"?
And? What? That means Leatherwood is a "usable" guard from now until forevermore?It’s been 20 years bruh....
Sigh....you questioned some of our patience. I’m running out of patience. LW is just the latest, in a long string of screw ups. Can he become a good OL? Probably. He still never should have been taken in the 1st.
So if Leatherwood turns into a decade long starter on the offensive line he wouldn't be worth the pick?Sigh....you questioned some of our patience. I’m running out of patience. LW is just the latest, in a long string of screw ups. Can he become a good OL? Probably. He still never should have been taken in the 1st.
Yes! How about actually drafting a player in the first round that can’t be grabbed a round or two later? This team needs talent and reaching for players in the first while trying to get lucky in the mid rounds seems like a losing plan.
Below average guard is kind. From what I have read the move was more about Parker being a better RT than Elumanur was a G than it was about Leatherwood and the plan was and is to move Leatherwood back to RT once a guard is available.
I think we all have concerns, but it is hard to judge any GM in the shadow of John Gruden.
But we don't know how much longer Leatherwood would be available.
Gruden fired a guy who was doing a bad job as defensive coordinator. You don't think Guenther deserved to be fired? I guess no head coach should ever change coordinators. The Gruden hate in this thread is at silly levels.
I really hate the "reach" thing. A reach to whom? What a bunch of people on ESPN and NFL network and maybe Sports Illustrated or a few websites say. Every year the group think says this guy or that guy is a 1st rounder and then they go in the 2nd or 3rd. Or some guy no one expects to go on the 1st goes. Every year, some kid everyone thinks is going to reinvent a position is out of the league before his rookie contract is up. Every year, some kid in the mid or late rounds ends up an NFL perennial pro bowler.
When 99% of the media and fans think the Raiders made horrible draft choices 2 minutes after the selection was made, it’s a problem. That is a reach and that is what the Raiders do. Drafting is not a perfect science and great draft picks do fail. That is not what happened in LV. The Raiders make horrible draft choices that fail.Chadstroma said:
I never mentioned Leatherwood in that post but nice try to avoid my point. I think the Raiders lack talent and have drafted poorly. You seem to think the Raiders draft well and can play with the elite teams of the NFL. Time will tell.
Gallery and McClain were both sure fire, consensus great picks. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE "REACH" or CONSENSUS. It is nonsense.
you and i have had this discussion before. i'd rather miss on the consensus pick, than continue to reach year after year. and the ruggs pick will always be an example of the raiders f'ing up their draft. it's the perfect example of their ineptitude. and it has nothing to do with his current troubles
you can follow josh dubow on twitter for that, he annihilates carr groupies on a regular. the stats carr fans bring never hold up under scrutiny and of course we can just look at the win/loss record over his 8 seasons. lol at the idea that carr will somehow become a quarterback capable of winning a super bowl at this point. And that's what the game is played for, to win super bowls. if your quarterback is not capable of doing that then you move on.Chadstroma said:
https://twitter.com/JoshDubowAP
Let's go out and dance on the Chiefs logo before the game. That should help. This is what it looks like when you have a bunch of failed high round draft picks and no head coach.
I don't but, okay.
I find this comment odd. And it's been recurring. Ruggs was consensus top 3 at WR. He was having a huge impact in his second season and was lost due to a completely unpredictable circumstance.
Lamb was the best WR available according to most people. Lamb doesn’t literally kill women and dogs. He kills defenses. The Ruggs vs Lamb debate is not a debate. The Raiders made another horrible decision .
Again, you say this as if Ruggs accident was somehow a foreseeable event.
I did, and I don't understand how a consensus top 3 WR who was having a huge positive impact on his teams offense in his second season doesn't check all the boxes that people are talking about?
