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2021 Las Vegas Raiders - PLAYOFFS!!!! (2 Viewers)
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LawFitz
Footballguy
And Rush D is the Raiders' 2nd biggest problem right now...
They need to figure something out with this OL or they risk getting Carr injured at this rate. Even if Carr stays upright, Raiders offense could go into full meltdown mode if this issue isn't solved. What we witnessed on Monday night was absolute trash across the line, other than Miller.
They need to figure something out with this OL or they risk getting Carr injured at this rate. Even if Carr stays upright, Raiders offense could go into full meltdown mode if this issue isn't solved. What we witnessed on Monday night was absolute trash across the line, other than Miller.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I see it as a long shot.
Gilmore would have been what we needed. I would have happily given up a 6th... heck, a 5th would have been great with me... though we would have to create more room to bring him on and then we would be out of cap space to make any other moves... and then figure out a deal to keep him on board but even coming off of injury his ability would make it a no-brainer plus the sudden need we have to bolster the secondary. But not going to happen.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Las Vegas Raiders running back Peyton Barber was diagnosed with mild turf toe and is likely to miss a few weeks, Rapoport reported. Barber did not suffer a fracture and is still seeking opinions as he undergoes further testing, Rapoport added. Cornerback Damon Arnette (groin), tight end Derek Carrier (pectoral) and cornerback Trayvon Mullen (toe) did not practice Wednesday, while safety Johnathan Abram (shoulder), running back Josh Jacobs (ankle) and offensive tackle Kolton Miller (knee) were limited. Defensive back Keisean Nixon was designated to return from IR.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Chadstroma
Footballguy
So Facyson (from Charger PS and played for Bradley) and Nixon coming back will be our corner depth. Mullen and Arnette have not been placed on IR so hopefully that indicates not too severe injury wise. Hobbs was a full participant in practice so no concussion protocol which is huge.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
isn't thursday the day that teams have to tell the truth?
facyson was the dude i had never heard of. he was included in my earlier rundown. hobbs not being in protocol is huge.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I can't think of an advantage of not putting Arnette or Mullen on IR if we know they are going to miss significant time, however they could still be going through tests, second opinions, etc.
You have to show the practice of players. Whether full participant, limited or DNP. If Hobbs was in concussion protocol, he wouldn't have practiced. I didn't see anything that said he had a concussion but that he was evaluated for one near the end of the game. It looks like it was determined that he did not have one.
Facyson isn't a big splash like Gilmore would have been but it makes sense. We need someone to come in and be ready to play right away. Facyson has 3 years of playing for Bradley. He played in 44 games for him with 4 starts. He was a protected player on the Charger PS previous but I guess they had other priorities so he was available. It makes sense for emergency depth that we need as Arnette and Mullen almost certainly will not play this Sunday.
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DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
we argued about the bolded, when morrow and white went down. i was ripping gruden for not just putting them on IR already. i fully expect mullen to land on the IR. arnette might be week to week.Chadstroma said:
raiders beat writer tweeting that the O line may look different soon.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
we argued about the bolded, when morrow and white went down. i was ripping gruden for not just putting them on IR already. i fully expect mullen to land on the IR. arnette might be week to week.
raiders beat writer tweeting that the O line may look different soon.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
LW is practicing at G, with parker at RT. exactly what we predicted. 
LawFitz
Footballguy
LW is practicing at G, with parker at RT. exactly what we predicted.
This is an experiment worth doing, given the turmoil at G. I've been no fan of Parker's, but even I can admit the Guard play has been worse than his (recent) Tackle play. Next thing is they need to have Martin on the ready if James continues to get bowled over at Center. Guessing/hoping that is part of the discussion this week too.
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Chadstroma
Footballguy
Chadstroma
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Chaka
Footballguy
Did the Raiders trade for Khalil Mack?
I agree but I think Khalil could go full L.T. "#### your game plan" on the Raiders. The LV defensive line is their clear strength but Khalil...they have no response to him angry.
Maybe Khalil is on his "decline" years (the Raiders can hope) but the greats, and I number Khalil among them, can bring it in their downward years (Khalil certainly is in the early stages of his decline...if at all). So, yeah if he plays I give around a 70% chance to see a legit game wrecker.
Whether or not LV has an equivalent response from their is a much bigger ???
I'm not guaranteeing that from Khalil but it just feels so...Raider for that to happen.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Did the Raiders trade for Khalil Mack?
I agree but I think Khalil could go full L.T. "#### your game plan" on the Raiders. The LV defensive line is their clear strength but Khalil...they have no response to him angry.
Maybe Khalil is on his "decline" years (the Raiders can hope) but the greats, and I number Khalil among them, can bring it in their downward years (Khalil certainly is in the early stages of his decline...if at all). So, yeah if he plays I give around a 70% chance to see a legit game wrecker.
Whether or not LV has an equivalent response from their is a much bigger ???
I'm not guaranteeing that from Khalil but it just feels so...Raider for that to happen.
I can't recall who the Raiders started at RT when they played the Bears two years ago. Was it Baby Huey or was he already hurt by that point? Hoping it was Parker b/c I do recall them fairly neutralizing Mack that day. Regardless, I know that OL was much different (and better) than this one, so probably not a good comparison at all, unless they knew something then and now about how to tactically deal with Mack.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
This should be a game we win.Did the Raiders trade for Khalil Mack?
I agree but I think Khalil could go full L.T. "#### your game plan" on the Raiders. The LV defensive line is their clear strength but Khalil...they have no response to him angry.
Maybe Khalil is on his "decline" years (the Raiders can hope) but the greats, and I number Khalil among them, can bring it in their downward years (Khalil certainly is in the early stages of his decline...if at all). So, yeah if he plays I give around a 70% chance to see a legit game wrecker.
Whether or not LV has an equivalent response from their is a much bigger ???
I'm not guaranteeing that from Khalil but it just feels so...Raider for that to happen.
The Bears are pretty much Mack and Smith and that is about it. Mack is dealing with ribs and foot issue and has not practices this week. Neither has Montgomery and Hicks out of the note worthy DNP's. Mack and Hicks are showing questionable right now and Montgomery out.
Their line is not good. Jason Peters should have retired. Maxx and Yannick should work him and Ifedi pretty good and their interior isn't all that good either so I expect some pressure up the middle from our rotation inside.
I expect Fields to be a good QB in this league but I think it is a mistake to start him. He strikes me as someone who would benefit with more time on the bench and then get him in next year. The Browns decimated their offense with getting to him and there was no answer to that. I think we can do the same. Thankfully, the Bears receivers are pretty much Robinson and to a much lesser degree Goodwin and that is it. Cole Kmet will be a factor but he can't carry the team. Their offense is the 3rd worst in the league right now.
We have gone against some of the best LB's in the league with Queen, Watt and Bosa. Overall, with a healthy Mack, I would still put the Raven, Steeler and Charger defenses as being better than the Bear D. The Dolphin secondary is one of the best in the league. And we have had the same Oline through it all.
This is a game we should win. Mack going off or not.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
By the way... living in Chicago and my wife being a "Bears fan" and me trying to keep my kids on the right path of Raider Nation (though my older son likes Mahomes and now sometimes says he likes the Chefs.... GAWD HELP ME).... this is a civil war in my house that we must win.
Chaka
Footballguy
Mooney seems to be flashing a little.Chadstroma said:
That's a great breakdown.
This is just the long suffering Raider fan in me talking but I am really worried about how they respond after, what I consider to be a demoralizing loss. I don't like how they have played the new & improved version of the Cardiac Kids getting down big early and frantically fighting back in the second half. I want to seem them come out and jump all over a team in the first half, play with a lead and salt away a victory late. They should do that with the Bears, on paper.
It would just be so Raider for them to continue this Jekyll & Hyde thing all year.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
there are no gimme games in the NFL. the players on the bears, get paid too. the raiders are catching a break with no montgomery, but if they come out flat again, it could be trouble. fields can throw the rock and our db situation is pretty tenuous. we'll see. i, like chaka, would like to have a game where they are comfortably ahead. huge game, that they should win.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I don't think losing to the Dolts is indicative of last year. The Dolts, as much as I hate to admit it, are a dang good team. Not only are the a good team but they are a complete team. They have rebuilt their line into a decent to good one, Herbert is the real deal, Ekler is a good back, they have two very good wideouts and they have a good defense with big time playmakers at LB and DB. They will be a hard win each time we play them. Heck, the way that they Chefs have been playing, my concern of who we need to beat in the division is shifting away from the Chefs and to the Dolts. We can beat them but there is no shame in losing to them.
Now the Bears are not complete trash but it would be an embarrassing loss for us to drop this one even with the depleted secondary. If we do take an L this weekend then I will entertain fears of a repeat of past years.
No doubt though that we must stop handing the first half to the other team on a silver platter and then challenging ourselves to come back and beat them in the second half.
ICON211
Footballguy
The difference I see is that in the last two years when they got down early to the Jets two years ago and Falcons last year the game went completely off the rails. Like you pointed out, this team continues to fight and got back in the game last week.
Chaka
Footballguy
DocHolliday
Footballguy
The solution to most of the struggles on offense is to be able to run the ball and to use short passes to neutralize the pass rush. Hopefully Gruden leaned something from the loss last week. The Raiders should win this weekend.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I do find it funny that I have been seeing "short passes!" A lot from Raider fans when ALL we heard about for the last few years was how they needed to throw deep.
My goodness we are an odd group of peeps
My goodness we are an odd group of peeps
JamboTaylor
Footballguy
Jon Gruden in trouble
To be fair, Mother Teresa was a very flawed person, who probably did more bad than good.
But yeah, using a racist trope in an email about somebody you were feuding with 10 years ago is a pretty nothing story to me.
LawFitz
Footballguy
I don't think his remarks were deliberately racist. Weird, lame and dumb, yes. Construably racist without further context, yes. Actually, deliberately racist, I don't think so.
As Gruden has now explained, he uses the term 'rubber lips' to describe liars. This was an extension of that odd practice, without thought about how saying anything about a black person's lips might be taken a very wrong way. In the weirdest of twists, it seems that Gruden's lack of racism did him in here - as in he had no consideration of Smith's skin color when he said it; otherwise, he probably wouldn't have said it. At least that is how I am interpreting this situation so far.
But it's the Raiders, so the NFL is almost surely going to come down on Gruden with a very heavy hand. I'm expecting a multi-game suspension, at minimum. :(
As Gruden has now explained, he uses the term 'rubber lips' to describe liars. This was an extension of that odd practice, without thought about how saying anything about a black person's lips might be taken a very wrong way. In the weirdest of twists, it seems that Gruden's lack of racism did him in here - as in he had no consideration of Smith's skin color when he said it; otherwise, he probably wouldn't have said it. At least that is how I am interpreting this situation so far.
But it's the Raiders, so the NFL is almost surely going to come down on Gruden with a very heavy hand. I'm expecting a multi-game suspension, at minimum. :(
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Think more than anything it’s going to come down to what kind of relationship he has with his team. How are the players going to react?
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
This is reallly dumb.
Yea, this stuff is what qualifies for 'investigative journalism' today. Anyway, wouldn't expect much issue, if any, with team. He lives the game and the type of coach players want to play for. Not like he stayed behind in LA after game Mon night so he could drink and 'dance' - was likely up at 3:30 Tues AM.
Of course the wild card is the NFL which is a slave to public opinion.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
"Has lips the size of Michelin tires" not "has rubber lips". If you're going to make excuses for the guy's weird racial comment at least use his actual comment.
And that's what it was - a weird racial comment. Maybe not "racist" but "racial" which is good enough when you're sending work emails to work people, which is what Gruden did. He deserves a firm slap on the wrist, to tell everyone he's sorry, and then we can all forget about it tomorrow because this is stupid.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I don’t find the Raiders OLine situation funny which is why the Raiders need to resort to short passes. Carr won’t have time to hold the ball for long pass plays to develop and the Raiders O line is not opening holes for the run game. This odd group of peeps is being realistic.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
i have said for years that he was/is disconnected from the younger players. i was ridiculed on here for implying that he was out of touch and that the lack of diversity in the staff was indicative of it. i personally couldn't care less about this comment, and think the whole thing is ridiculous. but your question is valid.
and i'm still confused about hudson's departure.
aawtfdik
Chadstroma
Footballguy
The rumor about Hudson was he was demanding more money extension and when they balked at it, he demanded a release.i have said for years that he was/is disconnected from the younger players. i was ridiculed on here for implying that he was out of touch and that the lack of diversity in the staff was indicative of it. i personally couldn't care less about this comment, and think the whole thing is ridiculous. but your question is valid.
and i'm still confused about hudson's departure.
aawtfdik
The team seems very close. I guess it is possible that Gruden isn't part of that though.
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DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
in 2019 the raiders made him the highest paid center in the league.
this years team does seem close.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Gruden's explanation was that he uses the term 'rubber lips' to describe liars and this was him extending that odd practice to imply that Smith was a huge liar during the CBA negotiations. It comes across as 'racist/racial' but if he's being honest in his explanation, it wasn't. Dumb and weird, yes. Racial, no.
I'm sure there will be a witch-hunt investigation and if more instances of racial stuff come out, then I'll change my stance, but if this is his only racial comment in decades of coaching, then I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe his explanation.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Cancel culture and this idea of "anti-racist" which just as the word is good... I mean, all decent people are by default "anti-racist" but what it really means is you must be hyper sensitive to anything that can be construed as possibly racist in any way, shape or form without any care as to how long ago, what context or intent and destroy people's lives in order to prove you are "anti-racist".
ICON211
Footballguy
This was an email sent to one other person. If this is so harmful to so many people why publicize it and repeat it? It was certainly dumb on Gruden's part, but the people that are blowing this out of proportion live for this stuff and will twist anything remotely racist or racial to suit their agenda.
Chaka
Footballguy
Because it's salacious and presents an opportunity for people to fall all over themselves as they race towards virtue signaling.
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