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2022-23 NBA Thread: “you’ll never let me down like the Heat did”, Miami fan says to giant pile of cocaine (2 Viewers)
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Jayrod
Footballguy
I concur
Deamon
Footballguy
51 pts... damn.Jrue Holiday is on one tonight
trader jake
Footballguy
Hopefully that puts Jrue Holiday more front of mind when voters put in their all-NBA ballots. The guy barely gets mentioned sometimes. He's the best perimeter defender in the league, plays for the team with the best record overall, and (based on everything you read) absolutely one of the best guys in the entire league. He's an all-NBA player - period.Jrue Holiday is on one tonight
trader jake
Footballguy
Then I have an assignment for you. Watch the Cavs play the Knickerbockers on Friday and report back what you see. Specifically, what Julius Randle does. I look forward to reading your breakdown.
gruecd
Footballguy
Who had Grayson Allen throwing down the Bucks' nastiest dunk of the year?
Moe.
Footballguy
CurryHopefully that puts Jrue Holiday more front of mind when voters put in their all-NBA ballots. The guy barely gets mentioned sometimes. He's the best perimeter defender in the league, plays for the team with the best record overall, and (based on everything you read) absolutely one of the best guys in the entire league. He's an all-NBA player - period.Jrue Holiday is on one tonight
Doncic
Lillard
Mitchell
Fox
SGA
Who are you leaving out to include Holiday? Not to mention Booker who is going to end up with a decent number of total games.
MAC_32
Footballguy
We have plans, but my wife has an expiring bonus bet of $200 that's ear marked to wager on the Cavs that night so I may be able to distract us from a normal night out and to my comfort zone as a functioning degenerate.Then I have an assignment for you. Watch the Cavs play the Knickerbockers on Friday and report back what you see. Specifically, what Julius Randle does. I look forward to reading your breakdown.
Deamon
Footballguy
anyone see Kyrie do it again tonight? (Unsuccessfully) Tried TWICE tonight to get a fan kicked out and stopped play just to argue with him
MAC_32
Footballguy
Basketball is a lot more enjoyable now with that shmuck no longer on my television.
Moe.
Footballguy
Clippers probably would have preferred to lose tonight, that’s hilarious
The ending of Pistons-Thunder was fun. Jalen Williams is going to be really good. This is a great rookie class.
The ending of Pistons-Thunder was fun. Jalen Williams is going to be really good. This is a great rookie class.
FatMax
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CurryHopefully that puts Jrue Holiday more front of mind when voters put in their all-NBA ballots. The guy barely gets mentioned sometimes. He's the best perimeter defender in the league, plays for the team with the best record overall, and (based on everything you read) absolutely one of the best guys in the entire league. He's an all-NBA player - period.Jrue Holiday is on one tonight
Doncic
Lillard
Mitchell
Fox
SGA
Who are you leaving out to include Holiday? Not to mention Booker who is going to end up with a decent number of total games.
I love the Kings and Fox, but he's not All-NBA. Not yet anyway
Fox is probably going to make an all NBA team.CurryHopefully that puts Jrue Holiday more front of mind when voters put in their all-NBA ballots. The guy barely gets mentioned sometimes. He's the best perimeter defender in the league, plays for the team with the best record overall, and (based on everything you read) absolutely one of the best guys in the entire league. He's an all-NBA player - period.Jrue Holiday is on one tonight
Doncic
Lillard
Mitchell
Fox
SGA
Who are you leaving out to include Holiday? Not to mention Booker who is going to end up with a decent number of total games.
I love the Kings and Fox, but he's not All-NBA. Not yet anyway
modogg
Footballguy
only reason i care about this game is because my dopey self thought it good to bet the Celtics 2nd half line. Wish i knew the Celtics team doesn't have GPS or get traffic reports.
I can't even begin to imagine getting paid millions of dollars to play a game and having the gall to suggest that traffic is to blame for being this bad:
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I can't even begin to imagine getting paid millions of dollars to play a game and having the gall to suggest that traffic is to blame for being this bad:
Jaylen Brown: "Weird Game, TRAFFIC Kind of Messed Everything Up"
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TripItUp
Footballguy
He has my vote. Best player the casual fan doesn't know about and the main reason the Kings are in contention.
Easily a top 10 player and not difficult to make a top 5 argument IMHO.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
I’m a big De’aaron Fox fan. I think he is a great player—but I have to disagree that it wouldn’t be difficult to put him in the top 5. I don’t see a world where a legitimate argument could be made to where he could be considered a top 5 player in the league right now. I think even top 10 might be difficult. The Kings had De’aaron Fox and Tyrese Halliburton together and couldn’t do much. IMO—the primary reason why they are playing so well this season is another star that most casual fans don’t know about—Domantas Sabonis. He makes that lineup a lot more dynamic. Secondly—that roster has talent up and down. They have a wonderful mix of shooting, passing, quickness, ball handling, and athleticism. Huerter is another very solid player for them. I think Fox is great—but I’m confident that I could name 5 other guards in the league that you could replace him with that would still put them where they are at in the Western conference.
TripItUp
Footballguy
I'm all ears
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
Assuming health—I think you could replace Fox with any of these guys—and the Kings would still be where they are at or better:
Ja Morant, Steph Curry, Luka Doncic, Dame Lillard, Jrue Holiday, Shai Gilgeous Alexander.
I think an argument could also be made for Donovan Mitchell—but I left him out as I already named 6 that I felt more confident in.
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Bromigo
glad he is on our team and totally hate him tripping guys and being from duke and beating the badgers he can take a long walk off of short pier but glad he’s with us take that to the bank brohansWho had Grayson Allen throwing down the Bucks' nastiest dunk of the year?
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
At what point does Doncic get docked for a mediocre record and complete disinterest in playing defense?CurryHopefully that puts Jrue Holiday more front of mind when voters put in their all-NBA ballots. The guy barely gets mentioned sometimes. He's the best perimeter defender in the league, plays for the team with the best record overall, and (based on everything you read) absolutely one of the best guys in the entire league. He's an all-NBA player - period.Jrue Holiday is on one tonight
Doncic
Lillard
Mitchell
Fox
SGA
Who are you leaving out to include Holiday? Not to mention Booker who is going to end up with a decent number of total games.
Capella
Footballguy
Gotta give him credit for dragging that crap team to the west final last year.At what point does Doncic get docked for a mediocre record and complete disinterest in playing defense?CurryHopefully that puts Jrue Holiday more front of mind when voters put in their all-NBA ballots. The guy barely gets mentioned sometimes. He's the best perimeter defender in the league, plays for the team with the best record overall, and (based on everything you read) absolutely one of the best guys in the entire league. He's an all-NBA player - period.Jrue Holiday is on one tonight
Doncic
Lillard
Mitchell
Fox
SGA
Who are you leaving out to include Holiday? Not to mention Booker who is going to end up with a decent number of total games.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Sure. Of course. But that doesn’t matter for this year’s awards.Gotta give him credit for dragging that crap team to the west final last year.At what point does Doncic get docked for a mediocre record and complete disinterest in playing defense?CurryHopefully that puts Jrue Holiday more front of mind when voters put in their all-NBA ballots. The guy barely gets mentioned sometimes. He's the best perimeter defender in the league, plays for the team with the best record overall, and (based on everything you read) absolutely one of the best guys in the entire league. He's an all-NBA player - period.Jrue Holiday is on one tonight
Doncic
Lillard
Mitchell
Fox
SGA
Who are you leaving out to include Holiday? Not to mention Booker who is going to end up with a decent number of total games.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Why is whatever is going on with Andrew Wiggins such a big secret? I don’t want to rumor monger or anything, but it is just very odd. He apparently is working out every day according to Kerr.
Capella
Footballguy
Oh, thought we were talking career-wise. Carry on.Sure. Of course. But that doesn’t matter for this year’s awards.Gotta give him credit for dragging that crap team to the west final last year.At what point does Doncic get docked for a mediocre record and complete disinterest in playing defense?CurryHopefully that puts Jrue Holiday more front of mind when voters put in their all-NBA ballots. The guy barely gets mentioned sometimes. He's the best perimeter defender in the league, plays for the team with the best record overall, and (based on everything you read) absolutely one of the best guys in the entire league. He's an all-NBA player - period.Jrue Holiday is on one tonight
Doncic
Lillard
Mitchell
Fox
SGA
Who are you leaving out to include Holiday? Not to mention Booker who is going to end up with a decent number of total games.
Fox might be slightly worse than, but definitely is comparable to, guys like Morant and Mitchell. I wouldn’t argue that Fox is a top 10 player in the league as a general matter, in large part because he hasn’t played like this consistently through his career. But he has a better top 10/all-NBA case *this year* than several of those guys because of games played.
Kev4029
Footballguy
ESPN posted their most recent MVP straw poll. Embiid is juuuuuuust edging out Jokic, although Jokic has more first place votes. If the three voters that have Giannis outside of the top 3 have actual votes, they should have them taken away.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Because it is no one's business and if it is as serious as it seems to be. Wiggins and his family should be left alone during this situation. Plus the Warriors don't want the distraction.
Can you imagine the question to Wiggins and his family if people knew what was going on?
Trying to time doctors visits asking Wiggins when he thinks he will be back? How about someone trying to make a name for themselves and they ask Curry or Kerr, "Do you really think Wiggins should be missing time because of ...".
Wiggins and the Warriors had determined that this is more serious than basketball and that should be good enough for everyone.
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Bromigo
i understand your point and i agree that availability is a big consideration and i agree his is not top 10 so basically we are on the same page but i respectfully do not think he is anywhere near the class of morant maybe you can make sort of an argument for mitchell but even that right now is tenuous next year or the year after lets see where things are and this is all said as a guy who likes sactown a lot and will never forgive the nba for the way the refs screwed them back in the day take that to the bank brohans
If you don't think these guys are in the same tier of player this year, I just don't know what else to tell you.
mr. furley
Footballguy
HUGE credit to everyone involved from the coaches, teammates, front office, agents, PR people, family members, reporters, etc. who are keeping a lid on the story. there aren't even any rumors that i've seen.
usually people are trying to leak speculation and rumor to get headlines/create hot takes, etc. no matter how awful the story.
Capella
Footballguy
There’s been rumors, no idea how valid they are. Something about his wife and kid.
FatMax
Member
What are you seeing that I'm not? I think they're in the same tier. Morant gets to the line more, and has better assist and rebound numbers. Fox beats him on FG percentages, turnovers and games played. But overall, pretty similar by stats alone.
And I'm only making a statistical case here. If jackassery was a category, Morant would win in a landslide.
Everything included, I'd still rather have Fox, but the case is not a slam dunk
the moops
Footballguy
Also Ja and Harden and Garland and Halliburton
Jayrod
Footballguy
I hate the Warriors as much as anyone, but they are handling this the right way. Major kudos to the team, coaches, players, etc.
Hope the situation works out or there is as positive an outcome as possible for Wiggins and his family.
Jayrod
Footballguy
If anything, this conversation illustrates something I've come to believe this season, that Ja is overrated. He is a very good All-star level player, but he is not an 1st team All-NBA/MVP candidate level guy like many sports media tried to push. He is an exciting player, but too inefficient and too inconsistent to be a "face of the NBA" type.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I never liked it when someone stole someone else's schtick.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
It's payback for Beverley doing that to LeBron last Sunday - that's the joke in this case.
I never liked it when someone stole someone else's schtick.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
It's payback for Beverley doing that to LeBron last Sunday - that's the joke in this case.
I never liked it when someone stole someone else's schtick.
I know what it is from, but come up with your own joke. Stealing Beverly's joke is lame.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Disagree. Throwing the guy's schtick back in his face is pretty funny.It's payback for Beverley doing that to LeBron last Sunday - that's the joke in this case.
I never liked it when someone stole someone else's schtick.
I know what it is from, but come up with your own joke. Stealing Beverly's joke is lame.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Both stopDisagree. Throwing the guy's schtick back in his face is pretty funny.It's payback for Beverley doing that to LeBron last Sunday - that's the joke in this case.
I never liked it when someone stole someone else's schtick.
I know what it is from, but come up with your own joke. Stealing Beverly's joke is lame.
Have a good season.
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msudaisy26
Footballguy
Disagree. Throwing the guy's schtick back in his face is pretty funny.It's payback for Beverley doing that to LeBron last Sunday - that's the joke in this case.
I never liked it when someone stole someone else's schtick.
I know what it is from, but come up with your own joke. Stealing Beverly's joke is lame.
Disagree and it is very unoriginal. Plus Beverly did it to LeBron, whoever you named did it to Pat Beverly. Plus Beverly is 6' 1". He is too small.
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Bromigo
you know what i am not going to die on this hill i didnt realize that the numbers were that similar they are about the same player but maybe it is just that when i watch them i dont feel that fox is as dominant a force as morant but i will totally concede that the similarities in numbers surprised me and when you are wrong the path of the brohan compels you to admit it so bam there it is take that to the bank brochachos
Kev4029
Footballguy
538 has the West projected for these win totals:
1. Nuggets 56-26 (tied with the Celtics in the east, two games behind the Bucks)
2. Grizzlies 51-31
3. Kings 49-33
4. Suns 45-37
5. Clippers 43-39 (Clips/Warriors are 2-2 h2h, Clippers currently have the better division record 7-7 to 6-9 BUT if they manage to tie there, it's likely that GSW will have the better conference record)
6. Warriors 43-39
7. TWolves 42-40 (Wolves own the tiebreaker over the Lakers)
8. Lakers 42-40
9. Pelicans 41-41
10. Thunder 40-42 (Thunder currently have the tiebreaker against the Mavs)
11. Mavs 40-42
1. Nuggets 56-26 (tied with the Celtics in the east, two games behind the Bucks)
2. Grizzlies 51-31
3. Kings 49-33
4. Suns 45-37
5. Clippers 43-39 (Clips/Warriors are 2-2 h2h, Clippers currently have the better division record 7-7 to 6-9 BUT if they manage to tie there, it's likely that GSW will have the better conference record)
6. Warriors 43-39
7. TWolves 42-40 (Wolves own the tiebreaker over the Lakers)
8. Lakers 42-40
9. Pelicans 41-41
10. Thunder 40-42 (Thunder currently have the tiebreaker against the Mavs)
11. Mavs 40-42
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