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2022 Detroit Lions Season in the books. Slow 1-6 start, started biting kneecaps to finish strong at 9-8. (3 Viewers)

TartanLion

Footballguy
The Rams imploding this season and us owning their pick is enough to let me know that the ‘curse’ might be lifting and some ‘luck’ might be heading our way under this GM. You make your own luck, I just couldn’t imagine this Rams lick turning out this way under any other incarnation of the Lions that I’ve followed through the years.

No one got an opinion on Anthony Richardson ? I think it’s tempting to take him if he declares and if he was there with our 2nd 1st rounder and sit him for a season behind Goff. IF you back your coaching staff to be able to develop a QB
 
Richardson is a guy you take in the 3rd imo. He's got some really good traits, but he's so raw, needs to be more of a sure thing for one of our higher picks imo.
 

Moonlight

Footballguy
Good test coming up vs. Jax. Same record 4-7. Two young and potentially future good teams. Jax suffered with Urban Meyer as the Lions did with MattyP. But Jax moved faster to remove their energy sucker.

Lions with the advantage of home field. Lions healthiest in a long time. But Lions haven't beat an AFC team in a long time.

A loss to Jax snuffs out any playoff talk or chances for Lions and would be demoralizing. This is a big game for both teams as they strive to climb the hill to becoming legitimate future contenders.

With the Rams pick looking to be top 5 at this time Lions are playing with house money and can focus on winning games and building momentum.

Wonder why Hutchinson is chirping at Jax for not picking him, he said he wanted to be drafted by the Lions. He should be counting his blessings that JAX passed on him if that's the case.

Lions are being blacked out in Marquette tomorrow in favor of Packers. First time its happened all year. Station that carries Lions games up here says "fans need to make other arrangements if they want to see the game." This is why I had to buy the NFL Ticket. Invited neighbor two doors over who is a Lions fan over to watch the game.
 
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jon_mx

Footballguy
I would have no problem with a middle round QB. At least it would spare us of these zero upside QBs they have had as backups.

I think we get Will Levis with the Rams pick. Goff is ok, but is too timid to air out the ball and does not handle pressure well. I would not use that pick on either CJ or Bryce.
 

TartanLion

Footballguy
I would have no problem with a middle round QB. At least it would spare us of these zero upside QBs they have had as backups.

I think we get Will Levis with the Rams pick. Goff is ok, but is too timid to air out the ball and does not handle pressure well. I would not use that pick on either CJ or Bryce.


Touching on a topic in a different thread re the importance of coaching, Levis is a very interesting case. The physical tools and leadership aren’t in question but his numbers have been VERY underwhelming and his consistency and processing of the field have been called into questions.

By all accounts his Oline has been an absolute mess and he has limited weapons, though. We’ve got a great line, good run game and we hopefully have good WR weapons for next season - Amon-Ra, Jameson as a start.

Just have to assess how much the mess his college team are in is contributing to his bad year.

Not entirely sure we’d have to use the Rams pick though. Still think we maybe go BPA with that Rams pick and see what’s there with our pick
 

jon_mx

Footballguy
I am actually surprise Campbell has not made the call on Jameson yet. He is usually insistent that players are football ready and have taken some hits before playing, which I am not sure Jameson has yet. Healthwise, he should be 100 percent now. One of the few times Campbell is playing it close to his chest.
 

BobbyLayne

Footballguy
The Lions did not record a punt today. The last time Detroit did not punt in a game was on Nov. 6, 2017 at Green Bay.

The last time Detroit did not punt in a home game was on Nov. 25, 1971 vs. Kansas City.
 

Grahamburn

Footballguy
another Rams loss

Lions might end up with the 2nd or 3rd pick in 2023

Keep this offense intact and potentially add Anderson and another 1st round defender.

Think I’ll be a Lions’ fan while my Bucs rebuild. Always kind of have been anyway. My man, Calvin. I miss him.
 

BobbyLayne

Footballguy
Locker room postgame

Surprising game ball (but not really when you think about it)

“This is all I’m going to say. It’s a 6 game season. We’re 1-0.”

The team knows how DC operates now and the why. Chark had been struggling with injuries and now had a big game against his former team.

Could have been a few games balls. Goff, St Brown were deserving too.

exactly

the stars played big yesterday

but it's about the team - and DC loves to highlight guys who step up and give the team a boost (Skipper, Joseph, et al)
 

BobbyLayne

Footballguy
Offensive line is playing at a high level. Ton of credit to Holmes for having depth and continually adding bodies.

19 games missed by OL starters this year, haven't missed a beat. The job done been Kayode Awosika the last two weeks, Dan Skipper in his 4 spot starts (at guard! he's the swing tackle), and Evan Brown has been impressive.

Past years we had injuries and it was oh **** we're screwed and the subs would play like crap

You're always gonna have injuries, really great how the unsung guys have gotten the job done

Coaching matters

I also loved how when Kayode gave up a pressure on a stunt Penei was all up in his business - the leadership has to come from within, the players on the field

I don't think Awosika had another MA that I could detect
 

TartanLion

Footballguy
This is all round lovely to watch. So much fun this year, exceeding expectations really

How they played the last 5 weeks, yes. But that 1-6 start was disappointing. Last two weeks were some of the best Lions football in nearly a decade.

Indeed yes but in that run were very tight games against Vikings and Cowboys both of which are flying this year, so even whilst racking up the losses there were positive signs in some respects
 

Da Guru

Fair & Balanced
Offensive line is playing at a high level. Ton of credit to Holmes for having depth and continually adding bodies.

19 games missed by OL starters this year, haven't missed a beat. The job done been Kayode Awosika the last two weeks, Dan Skipper in his 4 spot starts (at guard! he's the swing tackle), and Evan Brown has been impressive.

Past years we had injuries and it was oh **** we're screwed and the subs would play like crap

You're always gonna have injuries, really great how the unsung guys have gotten the job done

Coaching matters

I also loved how when Kayode gave up a pressure on a stunt Penei was all up in his business - the leadership has to come from within, the players on the field

I don't think Awosika had another MA that I could detect

Williams is a UFA. Older RBs usually don`t get big the big $$$.

Given the culture change and his leadership I would think Lions will bring him back even if they have to overpay a little.
 

TartanLion

Footballguy
Charknado!

So what do the homers see as a role for him going forward?

It’s a shame because he flashed week 1 and I think he would have gone on to have a good season overall. I sensed on Hard Knocks that he was kind of their secret weapon that they were expecting big things from. So much time injured though now, and Jameson is on his way back.

Chark
Reynolds ( connection with Goff from Rams )
Williams

It’s a bit crowded outside of what Amon-Ra gets.

I think he will be up and down. Get some deep and red zone looks but never a proper target hog
 

Leroy Hoard

Footballguy
Charknado!

So what do the homers see as a role for him going forward?

It’s a shame because he flashed week 1 and I think he would have gone on to have a good season overall. I sensed on Hard Knocks that he was kind of their secret weapon that they were expecting big things from. So much time injured though now, and Jameson is on his way back.

Chark
Reynolds ( connection with Goff from Rams )
Williams

It’s a bit crowded outside of what Amon-Ra gets.

I think he will be up and down. Get some deep and red zone looks but never a proper target hog
Yeah, and the fact that Detroit still has a heavy run to pass ratio. There's only one football. > 🏈
 

Moonlight

Footballguy
In the NE game everything went bad for the Lions. In the Jax game everything went right for them. These two games are likely to be the outliers for their season in each direction.
Watching the Jax game was a rare experience for a Lions fan. Lions were lucky, played very well and didn't get messed up by the refs.
Addressing these points, they were lucky because Goff's early pass near the goal line should have been intercepted but instead turned into a completed pass. Also Williams' fumble was recovered by the Lions.
They played well because they didn't turn the ball over, didn't commit penalties, the kicking game made 4 field goals some of them lengthy and stopped Jax repeatedly on 3rd down while converting on their own third downs.
Regarding the penalties the Lions are now tied for the 6th least penalized team in the NFL. This has been a continuing trend as I have noted in past weeks. They commit fewer penalties than their opponents. To play physical football without committing penalties is to be in a real sweet spot.
Their one enforced penalty on Jonah Jackson for holding sure didn't look like one on replay.
 

Moonlight

Footballguy
Offensive line is playing at a high level. Ton of credit to Holmes for having depth and continually adding bodies.

19 games missed by OL starters this year, haven't missed a beat. The job done been Kayode Awosika the last two weeks, Dan Skipper in his 4 spot starts (at guard! he's the swing tackle), and Evan Brown has been impressive.

Past years we had injuries and it was oh **** we're screwed and the subs would play like crap

You're always gonna have injuries, really great how the unsung guys have gotten the job done

Coaching matters

I also loved how when Kayode gave up a pressure on a stunt Penei was all up in his business - the leadership has to come from within, the players on the field

I don't think Awosika had another MA that I could detect

Williams is a UFA. Older RBs usually don`t get big the big $$$.

Given the culture change and his leadership I would think Lions will bring him back even if they have to overpay a little.
Maybe. They didn't want to overpay for Hockenson. Though I think his blocking and untimely penalties were issues.

Williams fumbled again vs Jax and his fumbling is of concern now. I'd like to see Williams back but would not overpay him. I have a feeling we are going to be needing money to pay for other positions.
 

Da Guru

Fair & Balanced
Offensive line is playing at a high level. Ton of credit to Holmes for having depth and continually adding bodies.

19 games missed by OL starters this year, haven't missed a beat. The job done been Kayode Awosika the last two weeks, Dan Skipper in his 4 spot starts (at guard! he's the swing tackle), and Evan Brown has been impressive.

Past years we had injuries and it was oh **** we're screwed and the subs would play like crap

You're always gonna have injuries, really great how the unsung guys have gotten the job done

Coaching matters

I also loved how when Kayode gave up a pressure on a stunt Penei was all up in his business - the leadership has to come from within, the players on the field

I don't think Awosika had another MA that I could detect

Williams is a UFA. Older RBs usually don`t get big the big $$$.

Given the culture change and his leadership I would think Lions will bring him back even if they have to overpay a little.
Maybe. They didn't want to overpay for Hockenson. Though I think his blocking and untimely penalties were issues.

Williams fumbled again vs Jax and his fumbling is of concern now. I'd like to see Williams back but would not overpay him. I have a feeling we are going to be needing money to pay for other positions.

I don`t think they will have to overpay him. Williams will not get any huge offers as he is a grinder, they are a dime a dozen but he is worth more to the Lions than any other team. Give him 2 years with a little raise should do it.
 

Leroy Hoard

Footballguy
Believe me as a Swift owner I'd love to throw JW a going away party, but he will be back at least one more year. Coaches are in love with this guy
 

Chaka

Footballguy
Believe me as a Swift owner I'd love to throw JW a going away party, but he will be back at least one more year. Coaches are in love with this guy
I'm in love with the guy. He's a leader of men.

From a magic football perspective playing Williams & Swift together, when available, yields solid results. The Lions RBs as a unit out up great numbers.

It wasn't intentional but I'm happy I made the pivot to rolling both (out of necessity after losing Javonte & E.Mitchell) and it has changed my perspective on drafting a magic football team. That doesn't happen often after 25+ years of...doing anything.
 

Leroy Hoard

Footballguy
Believe me as a Swift owner I'd love to throw JW a going away party, but he will be back at least one more year. Coaches are in love with this guy
I'm in love with the guy. He's a leader of men.

From a magic football perspective playing Williams & Swift together, when available, yields solid results. The Lions RBs as a unit out up great numbers.

It wasn't intentional but I'm happy I made the pivot to rolling both (out of necessity after losing Javonte & E.Mitchell) and it has changed my perspective on drafting a magic football team. That doesn't happen often after 25+ years of...doing anything.
I would have probably done something similar but was sniped on JW by a Lions homer who went after him rather early. I used to have decent luck playing 2 rbs so I can see doing what you did. Plus Goff rarely keeps it.
 

Chaka

Footballguy
Believe me as a Swift owner I'd love to throw JW a going away party, but he will be back at least one more year. Coaches are in love with this guy
I'm in love with the guy. He's a leader of men.

From a magic football perspective playing Williams & Swift together, when available, yields solid results. The Lions RBs as a unit out up great numbers.

It wasn't intentional but I'm happy I made the pivot to rolling both (out of necessity after losing Javonte & E.Mitchell) and it has changed my perspective on drafting a magic football team. That doesn't happen often after 25+ years of...doing anything.
I would have probably done something similar but was sniped on JW by a Lions homer who went after him rather early. I used to have decent luck playing 2 rbs so I can see doing what you did. Plus Goff rarely keeps it.
Well I may have taken it a little far with the Lions concept.

Draft: Swift (round 3 RB#1, intended RB#1)

ARSB (Rd 7, intended WR#3, J.Jefferson, Sutton)

Goff (Rd 8, intended QB#3, Lamar, Jameis)

Jamaal (Rd 16, intended RB#6, Swift, Javonte, E.Mitchell, D.Henderson, N.Hines). Best draft pick ever.

Oh, and picked up Jameson before kickoff yesterday just in case.

I think Hard Knocks glamored me.

But, I'm still in the hunt so it's working.
 

Leroy Hoard

Footballguy
I want to apologize if I ever said the Lions had an easy schedule. According to NFL.com 5 of their losses have come against top 10 teams. And the next 2 games are also vs top 10 teams. Last 3 (for now) "project" to be somewhat easier.
 

Mt. Man

Footballguy
I want to apologize if I ever said the Lions had an easy schedule. According to NFL.com 5 of their losses have come against top 10 teams. And the next 2 games are also vs top 10 teams. Last 3 (for now) "project" to be somewhat easier.
It's not just you. Coming into the season, the Lions were projected to have the 5th easiest schedule. The Top 4? The entire NFC East.
Instead, updating a comment I made way upthread, Lions opponents through week 13 (so counting Vikes once) are 86-59-2 (.5918) overall and 79-54-2 (.5926) when not facing the Lions. Only the Bears and Packers have a worse (higher Opponent Win%) SOS factoring in all 17 opponents.
 

jon_mx

Footballguy
If this is the SOL, this is where they lay a turd. As soon as you start believing in them is when they self-destruct and destroy you.
 

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