Jerry will NEVER stop looking for a discount, b/c I feel he is a cheapskate, despite being the richest or one of the richer owners. Some good schadenfreude here to make my day.Cowboys Twitter announced Randy Gregory deal. But:
Not so fast on Cowboys re-signing DE Randy Gregory. Text from Broncos source moments ago: “We got Randy.” Cowboys are still working through situation; there is still uncertainty on Gregory’s decision, source said. But Broncos very clearly in mix, if not the decided winner already
https://twitter.com/GehlkenNFL/status/1503765568020783105?t=ZQydULlFKoR5qTcbfU1K2A&s=19
Certainly paid up for Gallup, so I guess it depends.Jerry will NEVER stop looking for a discount, b/c I feel he is a cheapskate, despite being the richest or one of the richer owners. Some good schadenfreude here to make my day.
Zay Jones got $10m Per year and this guy got $12M. Think Gallup gets a higher contract than Kirk if he doesn't tear ACL. My guess the moment that happened, Jerry "knew" he was gonna cut Amari to save $$$.Certainly paid up for Gallup, so I guess it depends.
I don't know a ton about Kirk and haven't watched him play very often. Had him on a couple of fantasy rosters, and that's the closest I can point to in terms of following him so far. Not sure Kirk really counts as a "solid vet in the room." He's been a contributor, but I am not sure he is an established star or leader by any stretch.Best argument I've heard in favor of them getting Kirk in this manner is that it is vital to Lawrence's development to have a solid vet in the room/on the field with him. Gross overpay? Yes, as were the others. But they do need to churn, as do so many other teams. New coach, etc. Gotta figure Viska is a bust at this point. Three coaching staffs haven't used him or haven't wanted to. Marvin is a decent vet in the room but Kirk is 25.
That is as close as I can come to positive spin on it. Along with the "they can get out after 2 years" and "salary cap is gonna keep blowing up the next 2 years, these deals are always shocking at first" spin.
Combination of Lamb getting drafted/Gallup re-signing/no Cooper dead money meant Cooper was gone.Zay Jones
got $10m Per year and this guy got $12M. Think
Gallup
gets a higher contract than
Kirk
if he doesn't tear ACL. My guess the moment that happened, Jerry "knew" he was gonna cut Amari to save $$$.
Sure he is. A journeyman veteran WR. Nothing special and certainly not a WR1. But to say a "solid vet in the room" is hardly an endorsement. Back handed insult really. I thought that intent was clear. I never said established star. I don't know anything about his leadership qualities but had heard an argument re:helping TL develop. Guess it is semantics but when I said solid vet I didn't expect that to mean much. There are tons of other solid vets. Kirk was probably the #1 asset available though. Some may argue Juju or Chark.I don't know a ton about Kirk and haven't watched him play very often. Had him on a couple of fantasy rosters, and that's the closest I can point to in terms of following him so far. Not sure Kirk really counts as a "solid vet in the room." He's been a contributor, but I am not sure he is an established star or leader by any stretch.
They were being called a dark horse candidate to land Watson. Could be a *very* good WR opportunity to he had there, whoever that may be.Huge opening for a lot of targets in Atlanta with Gage gone - Pitts can't do it all.
Can see A-Rob or JuJu plus one of the top rookie WRs.
True. Patterson could also return, although I see him as more lightning in a bottle from early last year and likely not to be repeated.They were being called a dark horse candidate to land Watson. Could be a *very* good WR opportunity to he had there, whoever that may be.Huge opening for a lot of targets in Atlanta with Gage gone - Pitts can't do it all.
Can see A-Rob or JuJu plus one of the top rookie WRs.
Pitts owners everywhere. Watson's being courted by the Saints and Panthers, would be incredible if he juked and went to a different NFC South teamThey were being called a dark horse candidate to land Watson. Could be a *very* good WR opportunity to he had there, whoever that may be.
I just want the Watson domino to fall. Sick of hearing about it.Pitts owners everywhere. Watson's being courted by the Saints and Panthers, would be incredible if he juked and went to a different NFC South team
Sounds like a big exodus next year then b/c I can count quite a few "alphas" being overpaid/not producing to their expected level.Combination of Lamb getting drafted/Gallup re-signing/no Cooper dead money meant Cooper was gone.
For 20 mill a year, you expect Alpha production. That has not been Amari.
These deals today make the deal for CLE look better, but I am not so sure he's going to be any kind of savior in CLE.
I guess we differ on what a solid vet means. Landry to me is more of what I was thinking. A guy that has played more years, a multi-time Pro Bowler, someone that had a significant role on his other teams, has been force fed the ball, and can be a security blanket. At least that's my vision of a veteran WR . . . and none of those attributes really apply to Kirk (at least as far as his past performance goes).Sure he is. A journeyman veteran WR. Nothing special and certainly not a WR1. But to say a "solid vet in the room" is hardly an endorsement. Back handed insult really. I thought that intent was clear. I never said established star. I don't know anything about his leadership qualities but had heard an argument re:helping TL develop. Guess it is semantics but when I said solid vet I didn't expect that to mean much. There are tons of other solid vets. Kirk was probably the #1 asset available though. Some may argue Juju or Chark.
Landry would be a much better get for them. Same with Cooks. At least in terms of price. But yes my bar for "solid vet" is seemingly much lower. Kirk has made plays consistently for the Cards. But as a role player. For me solid vet equals role player. Stud territory is at least one tier above that. Kirk is 25 and better than you're giving him credit for IMO but I don't even know if I have him in my top50 WRs. He was probably off my board until now. Anyway yes some much cheaper vets on an equal or better talent/production profile that could have been had. Kirk will need to really outperform expectations to make it approach being worth it.I guess we differ on what a solid vet means. Landry to me is more of what I was thinking. A guy that has played more years, a multi-time Pro Bowler, someone that had a significant role on his other teams, has been force fed the ball, and can be a security blanket. At least that's my vision of a veteran WR . . . and none of those attributes really apply to Kirk (at least as far as his past performance goes).
Continuing along that theme / description, one would think that the Jag could have ended up with a Top 5-10 WR with the money they paid out if they traded for someone already living in the high rent district. We can debate the merits of Amari, but he fits that profile. Who knows if other teams are looking to get out from under other big contracts. Other candidates that I would slot in the category I mentioned would be OBJ or Brandin Cooks.
Many young QBs have been done in by constant coaching, coordinator, and scheme changes. That's why I generally feel that a losing team is still better off keeping a set of coaches for several years than making wholesale changes every year or two. That's the main obstacle that might keep TL from making big strides next season.Landry would be a much better get for them. Same with Cooks. At least in terms of price. But yes my bar for "solid vet" is seemingly much lower. Kirk has made plays consistently for the Cards. But as a role player. For me solid vet equals role player. Stud territory is at least one tier above that. Kirk is 25 and better than you're giving him credit for IMO but I don't even know if I have him in my top50 WRs. He was probably off my board until now. Anyway yes some much cheaper vets on an equal or better talent/production profile that could have been had. Kirk will need to really outperform expectations to make it approach being worth it.
I am also skeptical Lawrence takes any year 2 leap. Modest perhaps.
The Eagles did not tender restricted free agent RB Boston Scott, making him a free agent.
Eagles beats are still talking up the possibility of Scott returning at a lower salary level, as he would have made $2.43 million on even the lowest tender. But for the moment, this appears to lock Kenneth Gainwell into the passing-downs role in Philadelphia. Scott had a laughably unsustainable seven touchdowns on 87 rushes last year, and produced as a starter in the absence of Miles Sanders. He may find a real offer in free agency.
SOURCE: Dave Zangaro on Twitter
Mar 15, 2022, 3:06 PM ET
This is a sneaky good signing…he will make some plays for them.Mckissic to Buffalo. No threat to singletary but what up with moss?
I'd bet Jerry gets the last laugh there. I'd want not part of Gregory in a long term deal.Randy moves to the state with legal weed, and Jerry gets his pants pulled down.
Win/win
If Watson ends up in ATL or NO, I'd expect Will Fuller to follow.They were being called a dark horse candidate to land Watson. Could be a *very* good WR opportunity to he had there, whoever that may be.
And I'd argue they have a worse pass catching group than they had at this time last year.So I’m counting for roughly $126 million the Jags bought 4 years of Kirk, 3 years of Zay Jones and a year out of Evan Engram.
I know it’s really difficult with the cap, but Watson to Atlanta and Ryan to Indy makes a lot of sense IF everyone can make the cap work.If Watson ends up in ATL or NO, I'd expect Will Fuller to follow.
Why not Ryan to Houston? They could hold him for the highest bidder too, but I don't think they are set on Davis Mills either.I know it’s really difficult with the cap, but Watson to Atlanta and Ryan to Indy makes a lot of sense IF everyone can make the cap work.
So I’m counting for roughly $126 million the Jags bought 4 years of Kirk, 3 years of Zay Jones and a year out of Evan Engram.
Plus they signed Tim Settle, who IMO is better than Payne. Payne just happened to be WAS 1st rounder so they played him.Mckissic to Buffalo. No threat to singletary but what up with moss?
Never a good sign when the positive spin to a signing is when you can afford to get rid of them.Let's revise this based on outs, worst case for Jags.
Kirk 2/$37M
Engram 1/$9m plus $1m in incentives
Zay Jones 2/$14m and up to $1m in annual incentives
So they could end up buying 2 years of Kirk, 2 years of Zay Jones and a year of Engram for a grand total of $60-63 million.
Still crappy, but can get out of these deals for just about half of total dollar amounts and be pain free in 2 years.
Settle and McKissic were certainly not 2 of Washington's 7 best players. They were ok role players. Settle is not better than Payne, though I will agree Payne is overrated.Plus they signed Tim Settle, who IMO is better than Payne. Payne just happened to be WAS 1st rounder so they played him.
WAS had like 7 good players last year. BUF has taken two of them in FA.
And they added Marvin Jones above market last off-season.And I'd argue they have a worse pass catching group than they had at this time last year.
Its especially egregious because this is a very deep rookie WR class. A quality WR will be there at 33.
Bad teams stay bad.
ESPN's Ed Werder reports the Cowboys have "high interest" in free agent Von Miller after losing Randy Gregory to the Broncos.
That is "depending on financial expectations." This would mean there is mutual interest between the sides, as NFL Network reported earlier Tuesday that Miller has a "very strong interest" in heading back to Texas. The Cowboys definitely have the need after Gregory's abrupt departure, while Miller's potential reunion with the Broncos was spoiled by Gregory's addition.
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SOURCE: Ed Werder on Twitter
Mar 15, 2022, 4:55 PM ET
It's abundantly clear that what they're throwing at the walls will stick, it's just not what you'd want stuck to your walls.*
Jags - throw stuff against the wall and hope something sticks
If anything could sum up the Jaguars moves this off season this would be itBad teams stay bad
More of an "off your meds" guess, I would say. Less than 4% chance SF would want him for his price/salary when they have a stable full of cheap options on their roster already.If I had to make an off the wall guess I'd say SF might be interested in CMC but that's a total off the wall guess.
I've been saying for a few years I don't agree with people who don't think SF/Kyle will invest salary cap/draft capital in a RB.More of an "off your meds" guess, I would say. Less than 4% chance SF would want him for his price/salary when they have a stable full of cheap options on their roster already.
As a SF fan, I’m deeply skeptical. They struck gold on Mitchell after a move up swing & a miss on Sermon, who some insiders are saying could bounce back as part of a 2022 committee.I've been saying for a few years I don't agree with people who don't think SF/Kyle will invest salary cap/draft capital in a RB.
They signed McKinnon to a fairly healthy contract. Multiple reports said they were runner up to Bell when he hit FA first time(for way less then Jets paid). Mitchell and Sermon only RB's under contract I believe, maybe Hasty who is a zero and Sermon might be as well. And finally, maybe most importantly, CMC is not just a RB.
I'd say it's far more likely then not to happen, just spitballing because the point is to try and predict something not predictable, but I would strongly push back on notion that SF won't make an investment in someone like CMC if the price was right.
The problem for the Niners will be holding on to Jimmy G will limit their ability to make moves in the short term. They will recoup $25.5M in cap space once they move Jimmy, but for now they only have about $8M in cap space. Teams want a QB now . . . not in July. There also won't be much free agent talent left by then. They might be better off to move JG now for lesser compensation than waiting it out.IMO the 49ers will use that cap space to add depth to the RB room, bolster the secondary, and to prepare for the eventuality that they’ll be stuck holding JimmyG until summer when he proves his shoulder surgery was a success. He’s ~25M against the cap - so that alone could account for today’s moves.
Oh I’m well aware.The problem for the Niners will be holding on to Jimmy G will limit their ability to make moves in the short term. They will recoup $25.5M in cap space once they move Jimmy, but for now they only have about $8M in cap space. Teams want a QB now . . . not in July. There also won't be much free agent talent left by then. They might be better off to move JG now for lesser compensation than waiting it out.
The question I ponder over is how much can they actually get back for him? I don't see a team trading for him without having to give him a new deal and more bonus / guaranteed money. What good is bringing a guy in for a single season?Oh I’m well aware.
some are suggesting they cut JimmyG. Some hosts on local sports talk are suggesting JimmyG’s timing of this surgery was meant to facilitate exactly that.
That said, it’s also long been suggested that the 49ers hang onto JimmyG as a backup, which they’ll need regardless. Both from an insurance perspective, and a “just in case Lance isn’t good enough” perspective.
You’re free to judge how much truth there is in all that on your own.
Again I was just spit balling, trying to predict something shocking not what anyone is expecting so I'm not going to fight against people saying it's crazy or highly unlikely. I'd need like 10 to 1 odds to bet on something like this myself.As a SF fan, I’m deeply skeptical. They struck gold on Mitchell after a move up swing & a miss on Sermon,