babydemon90
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Oh and there's no correlation to success in this stat. Group at #26-#29 in this are [Aaron Rodgers, Taylor Heineke, Patrick Mahomes, Sam Darnold]. You can be terrible OR terrific with a short passing game.
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2022 Philadelphia Eagles - Leave Gannon in Arizona and let’s run through the NFC again in 2023. (1 Viewer)
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Bigboy10182000
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Regarding Watson, apparently just to meet with him you have to submit an offer. Reports are the offer has to be 3 first round picks, additional draft compensation as well as players. If that’s true, Howie may just be out on him entirely
Bigboy10182000
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So let’s say he goes to Atlanta, would you give up a later pick for Ryan? 
Not at this point. Ryan might be ok for a year or two, but he'd still need replaced sooner rather then later. Would rather roll with Hurts and see if he can improve. At least then there's an outside chance you're already good for multiple years to comeSo let’s say he goes to Atlanta, would you give up a later pick for Ryan?
DJackson10
Footballguy
Good teams don't overpay RBs. Thats why the Cowboys are in cap hell. Overspent on the RB. No way Giants are sending him in division either.
babydemon90
Footballguy
Didnt get either of the safeties we wanted, that kinda sucks. Bring McLeod back for a year or two? Mathieu?
The Noid
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Maybe they think McLeod won't have much of a market, they can resign him reasonably, and they have their eyes on one in the 1st or 2nd round?
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Barrett Brooks:
“The source I heard this from is tied-in, & I mean tied-in to the organization.”
“I would say it’s around 90% that it could happen. This came up in a casual conversation and it went as far as saying this is a done deal, the Eagles want Watson that bad.”
“The source I heard this from is tied-in, & I mean tied-in to the organization.”
“I would say it’s around 90% that it could happen. This came up in a casual conversation and it went as far as saying this is a done deal, the Eagles want Watson that bad.”
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need2know
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depends on the price. its worth ALOT to be set with a great qb for 10 years. i do think watson is that good.
Terpman22
Footballguy
I'll go a step further. I'll say 100% chance it could happen. 25% chance that it will happen though.
Birdie048
Footballguy
Why does this make any sense?
I understand Phil needs a better complement WR and tried for Ridley... but Laviska? Nobody better or just a bargain price?
Shenault to Eagles Trade Rumor
I understand Phil needs a better complement WR and tried for Ridley... but Laviska? Nobody better or just a bargain price?
Shenault to Eagles Trade Rumor
Tom Hagen
Footballguy
I can't remember where I read it but there was an argument for him as a Deebo Samuel type weapon as opposed to a pure WR. I think that was speculating he may be cut, so I doubt the Eagle would offer much.
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
i think both points were posted in the Laviska thread yesterday. while i agree with the potential, it better be on the cheap if true. he is one of those super athletic types who hasn't found his football skills yet. he's more Cordarelle Patterson than he is anywhere near Deebo comp so far in the NFL.
DJackson10
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Barret Brooks is being trolled. Eagles were out like a year ago on Watson. Not sure why all these usually informed writers are also not ruling out the Eagles when a lot of NFL circles are seeing the same with Watson as the Eagles did. Anyone else think about the fact how a very rare circumstance comes up with a QB of his age and talent comes up and numerious teams who could use a QB are not even interested anymore? MIA backed out, Eagles backed out, other teams who were interested backed out. You got Carolina who's desperate at this point, ATL who doesn't know what they are doing and then QB hell in Cleveland. So why aren't people asking why these other teams backed out? Yes you can say price and stuff but there's obviously other issues going on because usually a guy like Watson comes out and and franchises are all looking at him or interest.
Someone has to be messing with Barret.
DJackson10
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Dude can be used like Deebo Samuel if used right. Colorado had packages in colleges for him at RB. Just was in a dead offense in JAX and he has had a few injury issues. It's a good bargain buy low high success move.
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Bigboy10182000
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jasvic
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In case anyone still cares, I believe this person worked in front office or scouting for the Eagles. I have no idea what Watson wants in a team or why he'd not give Eagles the time of day, they are a playoff team which had assets to acquire him without messing up that core, maybe he knows Hurts from their Houston connection and did not want to take his job, no idea:
Honest NFL
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No super duper clandestine meeting ever happened between the Eagles and Watson or was supposed to happen. He turned them down in a matter of 5 minutes’ time through Caserio. It’s time to move on and stop acknowledging any further rumors about the two sides, because it’s bull####.
https://twitter.com/TheHonestNFL/status/1504481024666857479
Honest NFL
@TheHonestNFL
No super duper clandestine meeting ever happened between the Eagles and Watson or was supposed to happen. He turned them down in a matter of 5 minutes’ time through Caserio. It’s time to move on and stop acknowledging any further rumors about the two sides, because it’s bull####.
https://twitter.com/TheHonestNFL/status/1504481024666857479
DJackson10
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The Noid said:
They started a new draft process about a year ago. They were going to see this through. I heard something late last night about Howie being extended soon
DJackson10
Footballguy
menobrown said:
Been trying to figure who this guy is but he's been right on Eagles news. He's also the one who posted about the Eagles PI team going to HOU and coming away with the Eagles and other Teams not liking the results. The Eagles have been out since 21' offseason before the case. The rest is just the media drumming up clicks.
I'd follow him if I was an Eagles fan, he's legit and I know this from interactions on twitter with other people who worked in the league.
But I still call nay on you saying the Eagles pulled the plug on Watson, if that is what you are trying to say. Watson pulled the plug on them, he's saying this again in the tweet I posted.
DJackson10
Footballguy
There was a report about Howie sending the Eagles PI team to HOU last year. I heard Watson eventually turned them down but before he found out the Eagles did do their own research with other teams. This is what this guy said about the PI's
:Lots of folks in personnel departments I’ve spoken to aren’t very happy with how Watson is handling this relative to what they know from their private investigations. If he were accepting of responsibility, contrite, and willing to right wrongs, they’d be able to live with that. This issue will live on until civil settlements are reached, and nobody’s keen on those distractions. There’s too much out there for him to brush it under the rug, and it’ll take a strong commitment to follow through with acquiring him at the price he’ll command. From a purely legal perspective, he’s doing what he needs to do to prevent any criminal charges so that is what it is, but the pure lack of acknowledgment about the victims and the substance of this situation is what bothers them."
Either way even if Watson didn't turn them down they weren't going after him because at the time they sent the PI down they didn't know Watson would turn them down. I believe this account confirmed Howie doing this last year when it was reported. I was just saying more it doesn't matter if Watson turned them down or not because they weren't going to go after him after their PI team came back with their stuff. Lurie is never going to sign off on a player with the bolded a part of him.
DJackson10
Footballguy
@menobrownessentiallly my point is there is no reason to discuss Watson further. Both cases are right in This. Watson turned them down and the Eagles did their own research and came away with he's not worth the risk like many others have now at this point. Watson only gave the Eagles comfortablilty saying he wasn't interested.
Watson turned them down and the Eagles came away with not wanting him. So either way this WAS NEVER HAPPENING. Apologize if there was any confusion there but that was what I was saying.
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No problem and we can agree to disagree on the bolded because I don't think that is accurate but you are right there is no point is really discussing it further. The door shut, how is not so important other then wondering what Watson's motivation is and that if Eagles could have upgraded on Hurts they would have.
ProstheticRGK
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Good. I hope we really can shut the door on the Watson issue. I don;t think I could stomach trying to root for him- he is a creep. It was hard to accept the Vick comeback, but at least he was humbled and contrite.
Watson is trying to roll through this like he is a victim. He might not have had criminal charges against him, but he is guilty as sin of sexual assault. And just being creepy. If he wanted happy endings, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of girls who would've been happy to oblige.
Watson is trying to roll through this like he is a victim. He might not have had criminal charges against him, but he is guilty as sin of sexual assault. And just being creepy. If he wanted happy endings, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of girls who would've been happy to oblige.
Tom Hagen
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Say what you like about Howie, but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have allowed the Watson meeting to go public, only to get rejected thereby alienating Hurts and pretending everything is fine when Hurts then requests a trade.
babydemon90
Footballguy
Yea, can't really blame Baker on this one. At least the Eagles have 100% put up a public front fully supporting Hurts. Even if it wasnt the case behind the scenes, there would be no reason for any bridges to be burned.
babydemon90
Footballguy
Also cross Allen Robinson off the potential list. I dont think we were going for him anyway - seems like the Eagles are more looking for a slot WR then an outside guy.
Don't really want Cole Beasley tho.
Don't really want Cole Beasley tho.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Oh yeah I agree 100%. But it takes 2 to play that game and it seems extremely risky with no backup plan should Hurts had found out.Say what you like about Howie, but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have allowed the Watson meeting to go public, only to get rejected thereby alienating Hurts and pretending everything is fine when Hurts then requests a trade.
Don't blame him either. They took a date out to dinner and let everyone see it. Pride is still a high character trait of most NFL players.
babydemon90
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The Noid
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Writing was on the wall last week. Didn't think about the possibility of a return, after. But if you think about, he likes to take a lot of "vet day offs" during camp, so maybe he's willing to take a pay cut, relax for a few months, and rejoin the team on a friendlier contract in August.
The Noid
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Shouldn't get lost in all this, the day we hear about Howie's extension, that the Cox restructure at the start of last season was a HUGE mistake. Right up there with the Alshon restructure as an all-timer. Big dead cap hit and couldn't even move him for a conditional 7th rounder because of the albatross of a contract they did.
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Bigboy10182000
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It really all does point back to Lurie saying “I told Howie to keep the band together” in the one presser.
Im sure they’ll try to get Cox back cheaper but someone will over pay for him. He seems done as a player IMO
Bigboy10182000
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Get the cap in order and get good young talent on the team, specifically the lines and start (continue) this rebuild right.
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babydemon90
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For sure, they overestimated what they had after the Super Bowl, and doubled/tripled down on some of the talent that was here.
Still...got a Super Bowl. That Brandon Graham strip made it all worth it.
The Big Donkey
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hope he signs back with you guys. I know how much Eagles fans love Cox.
I will see myself out now.
I will see myself out now.
The Noid
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It’s a bit telling the team didn’t release a sappy thank you/goodbye to honor his accomplishments and place in team history. He’ll be back.
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need2know
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More than a little. The past 2 seasons he was a shell of himself. Great player though. He will be missed. We suddenly need interior dl
need2know
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Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Christian Kirk, rumored Eagles target, got 4years/$84MM from the Jags
JAX is sending the "stupid money" the Phillies never did.
Jesus
Bigboy10182000
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“Got clarification from an #Eagles source on the salary cap developments from the Cox release.
They saved $16 million, not $2 in cap space this offseason with the move, which is space they can potentially use to re-sign Cox if it works out.”
They saved $16 million, not $2 in cap space this offseason with the move, which is space they can potentially use to re-sign Cox if it works out.”
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