2023-24 NBA Thread: Celtics add to legitimacy of In-Season Tournament by choking here too (6 Viewers)

[Capella]

Jrue needs to come back to the sixers and bring the process full circle.

Seems to be the 76er way. Sell for pennies, buy for dollars.

Seriously though, what can the 76ers offer that Portland wants? Don't say Harden because they don't want him anywhere near that young team.

Harden wouldn't like our strippers.

Most strip clubs per capita in the US.

Yeah, thanks Tips. I live here. Cancels nothing of what I just said.

GM - honest question. Did the blazers do better with this trade than what Miami offered? They got one pick, an underachieving center, and jrue who they are now looking to flip. Is this better than herro and 2 picks and possibly a guy like jovic? the pick swaps are never going to be i their favor. maybe Miami didn’t offer that much but I think Cronin was more in the FU mode to Riley than maximizing value to Portland.

They’ll get a pretty decent haul for Jrue. Ayton sucks but he’s talented, I dunno, maybe they can make him care. If you couldn’t care playing with Durant I doubt you ever will, but I guess it’s worth the shot for them.

Jovic is probably pretty worthless. Nobody would know who he is if his name wasn’t similar to the MVP’s. I’d definitely take Ayton and Jrue over Herro.

 

[SWC]

I heard on milwaukee sports talk this morning that miami and pat slickster were arrogant and insulted portland in the trade talks thinking they were the only place dame would go well i guess they effed around and found out i wonder if that makes any trades between them for jrue tougher to get done take that to the bank brohans

 

[Kev4029]

Jrue needs to come back to the sixers and bring the process full circle.

Seems to be the 76er way. Sell for pennies, buy for dollars.

Seriously though, what can the 76ers offer that Portland wants? Don't say Harden because they don't want him anywhere near that young team.

Harden wouldn't like our strippers.

Most strip clubs per capita in the US.

Yeah, thanks Tips. I live here. Cancels nothing of what I just said.

He's bound to find a few that he likes. Ja, apparently, found a club he liked in Denver and we aren't exactly known for ethnic diversity or good strip clubs.

 

[Kev4029]

Jrue needs to come back to the sixers and bring the process full circle.

Seems to be the 76er way. Sell for pennies, buy for dollars.

Seriously though, what can the 76ers offer that Portland wants? Don't say Harden because they don't want him anywhere near that young team.

Harden wouldn't like our strippers.

Most strip clubs per capita in the US.

Yeah, thanks Tips. I live here. Cancels nothing of what I just said.

GM - honest question. Did the blazers do better with this trade than what Miami offered? They got one pick, an underachieving center, and jrue who they are now looking to flip. Is this better than herro and 2 picks and possibly a guy like jovic? the pick swaps are never going to be i their favor. maybe Miami didn’t offer that much but I think Cronin was more in the FU mode to Riley than maximizing value to Portland.

Giannis noticeably slipped last year, has a game that is very predicated on athleticism, and will be in his age 35 season by the time that 2030 swap hits (Dame will be in his age 39 season - so either not an all-star level or retired). That swap could be the juiciest asset in the league in 6 years.

The Blazers will also get some nice assets for Jrue when they trade him.

I think this was probably a better trade than Miami could have possibly offered (changing the OKC protections to get 3 unprotected picks plus two swaps) and certainly better than what was publicly on the table.

 

[Kev4029]

You know who probably has the assets and need for somebody like Jrue Holiday?

who?

I got distracted while writing this... I was thinking Miami, he would be a perfect fit there and would come cheaper than Dame.

Another that would be really interesting - Golden State for CP3 and their 26/28 first rounders and maybe something like Moody.

The Clippers have a bunch of flotsam on expirings and could trade their 28/30 picks as well.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

I think Portland did great considering they were in a position to where they kinda had to make a deal. I would not be shocked to see Ayton average 18 and 12 for them. Secondly, Portland is going young and rebuilding— and Ayton is a young big that has decent quickness, has range for a big, has a post up game, and is really solid when he’s motivated and in an environment where he’s respected. Jrue is still one of the most underrated players in the league and is probably now maybe 1 tier below potential all star. Add in the pick- and I think Portland did really well. With that said- they can still ruin their haul if they effectively give Jrue away for too cheap. They need to be stubborn and demand a nice haul back for him as he’s a very valuable asset. If they maximize return for Jrue- I think Portland hit a homerun with this deal

 

[Juxtatarot]

pick swaps are never going to be i their favor.

Things can change fast in the NBA.

 

[msudaisy26]

Jrue needs to come back to the sixers and bring the process full circle.

Seems to be the 76er way. Sell for pennies, buy for dollars.

Seriously though, what can the 76ers offer that Portland wants? Don't say Harden because they don't want him anywhere near that young team.

Harden wouldn't like our strippers.

Most strip clubs per capita in the US.

Yeah, thanks Tips. I live here. Cancels nothing of what I just said.

GM - honest question. Did the blazers do better with this trade than what Miami offered? They got one pick, an underachieving center, and jrue who they are now looking to flip. Is this better than herro and 2 picks and possibly a guy like jovic? the pick swaps are never going to be i their favor. maybe Miami didn’t offer that much but I think Cronin was more in the FU mode to Riley than maximizing value to Portland.

They’ll get a pretty decent haul for Jrue. Ayton sucks but he’s talented, I dunno, maybe they can make him care. If you couldn’t care playing with Durant I doubt you ever will, but I guess it’s worth the shot for them.

Jovic is probably pretty worthless. Nobody would know who he is if his name wasn’t similar to the MVP’s. I’d definitely take Ayton and Jrue over Herro.

But Herro, and Jovic and those picks have Heat culture in their DNA. Can't put a value on that.

 

[gruecd]

i will miss jrue a lot i loved his d

 

[Schmeabs]

Jrue needs to come back to the sixers and bring the process full circle.

Seems to be the 76er way. Sell for pennies, buy for dollars.

Seriously though, what can the 76ers offer that Portland wants? Don't say Harden because they don't want him anywhere near that young team.

Harden wouldn't like our strippers.

Most strip clubs per capita in the US.

Yeah, thanks Tips. I live here. Cancels nothing of what I just said.

GM - honest question. Did the blazers do better with this trade than what Miami offered? They got one pick, an underachieving center, and jrue who they are now looking to flip. Is this better than herro and 2 picks and possibly a guy like jovic? the pick swaps are never going to be i their favor. maybe Miami didn’t offer that much but I think Cronin was more in the FU mode to Riley than maximizing value to Portland.

This was way better deal than the Miami offer. I am so happy they did not cave to the crappy Miami offer.

 

[Mister CIA]

I heard on milwaukee sports talk this morning that miami and pat slickster were arrogant and insulted portland in the trade talks thinking they were the only place dame would go well i guess they effed around and found out i wonder if that makes any treads between them for jrue tougher to get done take that to the bank brohans

A story as old as time, Florida Man.

 

[Bogart]

Meaningless nugget from day one of training camp, but the Mavs rolled out the following in pick-up games:

Luka Dončić, Kyrie Irving, OMax Prosper, Grant Williams, Dereck Lively II
vs.
Seth Curry, Josh Green, Tim Hardaway Jr., Maxi Kleber, Dwight Powell

 

[General Malaise]

Jrue needs to come back to the sixers and bring the process full circle.

Seems to be the 76er way. Sell for pennies, buy for dollars.

Seriously though, what can the 76ers offer that Portland wants? Don't say Harden because they don't want him anywhere near that young team.

Harden wouldn't like our strippers.

Most strip clubs per capita in the US.

Yeah, thanks Tips. I live here. Cancels nothing of what I just said.

GM - honest question. Did the blazers do better with this trade than what Miami offered? They got one pick, an underachieving center, and jrue who they are now looking to flip. Is this better than herro and 2 picks and possibly a guy like jovic? the pick swaps are never going to be i their favor. maybe Miami didn’t offer that much but I think Cronin was more in the FU mode to Riley than maximizing value to Portland.

Yes. All this trash talk about Ayton and yet, when I did a 30 second dig into his playoffs last year, noted he led his team in rebounds almost every game. What's his career average, 18 and 10 shooting 57%? Portland is viewed by Vegas as a 21 win team so do I give a rusty fart that a young center who averages those figures under achieves? Maybe he hated playing with divas? Maybe he hated his coach? Winning a title isn't the goal here this year like it was in Phoenix with that geriatric roster.

Portland didn't need another shooting guard. I think I said that to you about 75 times in here. So they went out and got a true center that was a number 1 overall pick and is still very young.

The pick is unprotected and in 2029, the Bucks might be the worst team in the league. They certainly won't have the vets on there now.

Jrue is an exciting trade chip. I'd rather dangle him in the water than Herro, who, again, they never wanted nor needed and you've now been told by 30 other teams he isn't nearly as coveted as you want us all to believe. What they get for Jrue will be key, but I'm confident there will be suitors. You can't deny that.

This a better deal than Miami could have ever offered. I think deep down, you know that but you're a fan, I get it. So am I. We get tainted by our environment and the voices that permeate it. Good luck this season.

 

[Navin Johnson]

Meaningless nugget from day one of training camp, but the Mavs rolled out the following in pick-up games:

Luka Dončić, Kyrie Irving, OMax Prosper, Grant Williams, Dereck Lively II
vs.
Seth Curry, Josh Green, Tim Hardaway Jr., Maxi Kleber, Dwight Powell

His brother, Ferdi, trains with us on Thurday nights. Moved in to our small town last year. Trying to get him to transfer. The oldest brother (don't know his name) also just moved here.

 

[Gatorman]

This a better deal than Miami could have ever offered. I think deep down, you know that but you're a fan, I get it. So am I. We get tainted by our environment and the voices that permeate it. Good luck this season.

No, I'm just asking. I don't know every player in the NBA (I don't play Fantasy Basketball, so you know). Again, Bucks are better, Boston is worse, Miami is worse than last year (mitigated by Herro being healthy for the playoffs this year we hope), the knicks are the knicks, and Philly will be worse as well. So.... The east is still wide open (not sure how the bucks defend anyone with that roster now), and the west still has Denver.

As a Miami fan I do have a lot of questions about this, but I'm not "crushed" that we didn't get him.

 

[gruecd]

The east is still wide open (not sure how the bucks defend anyone with that roster now), and the west still has Denver.

Um, you do realize they still have two DPOY-caliber big men, right? That can make up for a lot of mistakes on the perimeter...

 

[Gatorman]

The east is still wide open (not sure how the bucks defend anyone with that roster now), and the west still has Denver.

Um, you do realize they still have two DPOY-caliber big men, right? That can make up for a lot of mistakes on the perimeter...

Old ones that Bam owned last year and Jimmy did what he pleased against, but sure.

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

The east is still wide open (not sure how the bucks defend anyone with that roster now), and the west still has Denver.

Um, you do realize they still have two DPOY-caliber big men, right? That can make up for a lot of mistakes on the perimeter...

Old ones that Bam owned last year and Jimmy did what he pleased against, but sure.

One of them missed half the series, but sure.

 

[Jayrod]

No, I'm just asking. I don't know every player in the NBA (I don't play Fantasy Basketball, so you know). Again, Bucks are better, Boston is worse, Miami is worse than last year (mitigated by Herro being healthy for the playoffs this year we hope), the knicks are the knicks, and Philly will be worse as well. So.... The east is still wide open (not sure how the bucks defend anyone with that roster now), and the west still has Denver.

As a Miami fan I do have a lot of questions about this, but I'm not "crushed" that we didn't get him.

Not sure if Boston is better or worse yet. All we know for sure is they will be different, but if KP plays like he did last season and the team stays relatively healthy they will be slightly improved.

Current starting lineup likely to be White-Brown-Tatum-Porzingis-Williams with Brogdon & Horford. That's pretty nice 2-way production across the board and some starting level guys off the bench.

Also more moves could be made. Boston is a longshot to land Jrue, but it isn't impossible. From what I've read they would likely be moving Brogdon (rumors are he's unhappy) and then one of Horford or Timelord. I'd imagine Portland would want Williams, but the Celtics likely need all 3 of their bigs to be a legit contender with the fragility of both Williams and KP and Horford's age. That would push Derrick White to the 6-man role, but behind a starting lineup of Holiday-Brown-Tatum-Porzingis-Williams or Horford could also be a true contender for a title.

There's a long way to go to get to any of that.

 

[Just Win Baby]

This a better deal than Miami could have ever offered. I think deep down, you know that but you're a fan, I get it. So am I. We get tainted by our environment and the voices that permeate it. Good luck this season.

No, I'm just asking. I don't know every player in the NBA (I don't play Fantasy Basketball, so you know). Again, Bucks are better, Boston is worse, Miami is worse than last year (mitigated by Herro being healthy for the playoffs this year we hope), the knicks are the knicks, and Philly will be worse as well. So.... The east is still wide open (not sure how the bucks defend anyone with that roster now), and the west still has Denver.

As a Miami fan I do have a lot of questions about this, but I'm not "crushed" that we didn't get him.

I don't think Boston is worse.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

not sure how the bucks defend anyone with that roster now

With Giannis and Lopez, you think the Bucks can't defend at all?

 

[thecatch]

The east is still wide open (not sure how the bucks defend anyone with that roster now), and the west still has Denver.

Um, you do realize they still have two DPOY-caliber big men, right? That can make up for a lot of mistakes on the perimeter...

Old ones that Bam owned last year and Jimmy did what he pleased against, but sure.

The Heat barely made the playoffs last year, they need to be worrying about more than just the Bucks.

 

[Boston]

This a better deal than Miami could have ever offered. I think deep down, you know that but you're a fan, I get it. So am I. We get tainted by our environment and the voices that permeate it. Good luck this season.

No, I'm just asking. I don't know every player in the NBA (I don't play Fantasy Basketball, so you know). Again, Bucks are better, Boston is worse, Miami is worse than last year (mitigated by Herro being healthy for the playoffs this year we hope), the knicks are the knicks, and Philly will be worse as well. So.... The east is still wide open (not sure how the bucks defend anyone with that roster now), and the west still has Denver.

As a Miami fan I do have a lot of questions about this, but I'm not "crushed" that we didn't get him.

Why is Boston worse...obviously nothing is guaranteed with Porzingas and his health but if he does what they brought him in to do that could be a dramatic upgrade for them...also, and he is a flashpoint because he is either loved or hated but I think removing Smart is a positive both on and off the court (and I am someone who appreciates what he did although he was vastly overrated by some C fans...and underrated by others)...it is time for Tatum and Brown to totally take this team and locker-room over and that was not going to happen with Smart there...both of these players can still get better and if they do that automatically makes them better regardless of who they are playing with.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Why is Boston worse.

Heat culture.

 

[SWC]

i will miss jrue a lot i loved his d

you are my pewaukee brohan why you gotta do me dirty like that take that to the bank

 

[Navin Johnson]

No, I'm just asking. I don't know every player in the NBA (I don't play Fantasy Basketball, so you know). Again, Bucks are better, Boston is worse, Miami is worse than last year (mitigated by Herro being healthy for the playoffs this year we hope), the knicks are the knicks, and Philly will be worse as well. So.... The east is still wide open (not sure how the bucks defend anyone with that roster now), and the west still has Denver.

As a Miami fan I do have a lot of questions about this, but I'm not "crushed" that we didn't get him.

Not sure if Boston is better or worse yet. All we know for sure is they will be different, but if KP plays like he did last season and the team stays relatively healthy they will be slightly improved.

Current starting lineup likely to be White-Brown-Tatum-Porzingis-Williams with Brogdon & Horford. That's pretty nice 2-way production across the board and some starting level guys off the bench.

Also more moves could be made. Boston is a longshot to land Jrue, but it isn't impossible. From what I've read they would likely be moving Brogdon (rumors are he's unhappy) and then one of Horford or Timelord. I'd imagine Portland would want Williams, but the Celtics likely need all 3 of their bigs to be a legit contender with the fragility of both Williams and KP and Horford's age. That would push Derrick White to the 6-man role, but behind a starting lineup of Holiday-Brown-Tatum-Porzingis-Williams or Horford could also be a true contender for a title.

There's a long way to go to get to any of that.

Boston isn't getting Jrue for Brogdan and Horford unless multiple picks come with it

 

[General Malaise]

Jrue needs to come back to the sixers and bring the process full circle.

Seems to be the 76er way. Sell for pennies, buy for dollars.

Seriously though, what can the 76ers offer that Portland wants? Don't say Harden because they don't want him anywhere near that young team.

Harden wouldn't like our strippers.

Most strip clubs per capita in the US.

Yeah, thanks Tips. I live here. Cancels nothing of what I just said.

GM - honest question. Did the blazers do better with this trade than what Miami offered? They got one pick, an underachieving center, and jrue who they are now looking to flip. Is this better than herro and 2 picks and possibly a guy like jovic? the pick swaps are never going to be i their favor. maybe Miami didn’t offer that much but I think Cronin was more in the FU mode to Riley than maximizing value to Portland.

They’ll get a pretty decent haul for Jrue. Ayton sucks but he’s talented, I dunno, maybe they can make him care. If you couldn’t care playing with Durant I doubt you ever will, but I guess it’s worth the shot for them.

Jovic is probably pretty worthless. Nobody would know who he is if his name wasn’t similar to the MVP’s. I’d definitely take Ayton and Jrue over Herro.

The news I'm hearing is that Phoenix came to Ayton before the 2020-2021 season and told him if he played a certain way, sacrificed his scoring and rebounding for the team, did everything needed of him that they would reward him with a big contract after the season. Suns go to the Finals, lose to the Bucks and guess who didn't get paid like he was promised? He had to sign an offer with Indy which Phoenix matched to get his contract, but it wasn't what he claims he was promised. I'd be pissed too. Now, is this what happened? I dunno. It's what's making the rounds this morning.

 

[Boston]

Stevens has been hoarding picks (granted many are #2's) and you gotta believe at some point he is going to cash them in...right now they own all their #1's (there is a pick swap with the Spurs in 2028) as well as Golden State's #1 in 2024...they also have a ton of second round picks (it is like a math equation how many so here they are below)...gotta believe they at least sniff around Holladay...would be a very nice addition and he appears to be a pro's pro which this team could use as well.

Boston Celtics Future Draft Pick Status

 

[General Malaise]

Jrue needs to come back to the sixers and bring the process full circle.

Seems to be the 76er way. Sell for pennies, buy for dollars.

Seriously though, what can the 76ers offer that Portland wants? Don't say Harden because they don't want him anywhere near that young team.

Harden wouldn't like our strippers.

Most strip clubs per capita in the US.

Yeah, thanks Tips. I live here. Cancels nothing of what I just said.

He's bound to find a few that he likes. Ja, apparently, found a club he liked in Denver and we aren't exactly known for ethnic diversity or good strip clubs.

There's a vast difference between finding a strip club in Denver to celebrate the night with booze and guns and going to a city with women who look like Instagram hots in every strip club in the city. Miami, Houston, New York and Philadelphia are going to have vastly more of what Harden is after than Portland, which, while fine - don't get me wrong, I've celebrated many nights with booze and glocks in the Portland strip club scene (I once made it rain with Darius Miles before his entourage told me to 'beat it' (which I did, then left)) - isn't going to touch a big city in terms of ethnic diversity and pulchritude.

 

[General Malaise]

This a better deal than Miami could have ever offered. I think deep down, you know that but you're a fan, I get it. So am I. We get tainted by our environment and the voices that permeate it. Good luck this season.

No, I'm just asking. I don't know every player in the NBA (I don't play Fantasy Basketball, so you know). Again, Bucks are better, Boston is worse, Miami is worse than last year (mitigated by Herro being healthy for the playoffs this year we hope), the knicks are the knicks, and Philly will be worse as well. So.... The east is still wide open (not sure how the bucks defend anyone with that roster now), and the west still has Denver.

As a Miami fan I do have a lot of questions about this, but I'm not "crushed" that we didn't get him.

You got Mario Cristobal from Oregon and he's 4-0!

 

[Desert_Power]

(I once made it rain with Darius Miles before his entourage told me to 'beat it' (which I did, then left)) -

 

[General Malaise]

I'm also very very very happy for Dame to be able to play with the greatest player on the planet. I think most Blazer fans are excited for him and look forward to watching him play with Giannis. It's far more exciting than Dame with Jimmy. Even Heat fan has to be eager to see what Dame will look like in a Bucks jersey next to the Freak. That's great for all of us!

 

[Anarchy99]

As a BOS fan, I would say Smart was overrated. He'd make some spectacular defensive plays, but he missed a ton of open looks at key moments and at times made some really careless passes. Green Teamers tend to remember the high points but ignore the low ones. His career net rating is even (107 offense and defense, and his total VORP was +7.7 over 9 years (an average of +0.85 wins per year). There was a reason why teams let him shoot at will at the end of games.

To even be able to make an offer for Holiday, they would have to pair two of Horford, Timelord, White, or Brogdon (and likely a couple of first rounders). POR really wasn't that interested in acquiring guards, and I can't imagine Horford is all that desirable. I would think POR will have better offers than what BOS can include . . . and the Celtics would be left with very little depth. If they rolled out JT-JB-KP-JH and whichever guard they held onto. The bench would be the other player that wasn't involved in the trade and Hauser, Pritchard, Kornet, and a bunch of players that averaged less 3-4 ppg. I'm not really sure adding Holiday would make them better.

 

[Jayrod]

Who is going to be Dame's backcourt mate in Milwaukee now with both of their starters gone? Are they going to roll with Connaughton I'm assuming?

 

[Yo Mama]

My thoughts on Bucks vs supposed Heat deals

- teams are lining up to deal for Jrue, while it sounds like neither Por/Mia could find a third team that wanted Herro

- Portland was able to dump Nurkic in the deal and add a big more on the same timeline with their young core

- Unclear if Heat were offering three firsts, but I like the unprotected pick / swaps from an aging and very expensive Bucks team versus a similar amount from Miami

- it’s also unclear if the Heat ever included Jovic or Jacquez in their offer, but everything I heard was they weren’t including both or even either

I think Portland did better than they would have in a deal with the Heat.

 

[Yo Mama]

Who is going to be Dame's backcourt mate in Milwaukee now with both of their starters gone? Are they going to roll with Connaughton I'm assuming?

Beasley?

 

[Jayrod]

Who is going to be Dame's backcourt mate in Milwaukee now with both of their starters gone? Are they going to roll with Connaughton I'm assuming?

Beasley?

Looking at their career comparisons, Connaughton is a better defender and more efficient on offense (with fairly low scoring numbers), but he has played for much better team the majority of his career. I'd guess Pat gets the starting role since Dame's defense is his weakness.

 

[Navin Johnson]

My thoughts on Bucks vs supposed Heat deals

- teams are lining up to deal for Jrue, while it sounds like neither Por/Mia could find a third team that wanted Herro

- Portland was able to dump Nurkic in the deal and add a big more on the same timeline with their young core

- Unclear if Heat were offering three firsts, but I like the unprotected pick / swaps from an aging and very expensive Bucks team versus a similar amount from Miami

- it’s also unclear if the Heat ever included Jovic or Jacquez in their offer, but everything I heard was they weren’t including both or even either

I think Portland did better than they would have in a deal with the Heat.

MIA doesn't have 3 firsts to trade. They have a 28 and 30 or they can remove protections on the outgoing 25 to OKC and ship a 27 and 29

 

[the moops]

There will definitely be a drop on defense (though they still have Giannis and Lopez protecting the paint), but Lillard’s offensive impact should more than offset that drop and give the Bucks a greater playoff ceiling.

I love this deal for MIL, but I do think some are overlooking how much of a hit MIL defense is going to take. Yes, they still have Lopez and Giannis as a back line, and that is incredible.

But we have seen both Pat Connaughton and Grayson Allen relentlessly picked on in the playoffs where it got to a point that neither of them were playable. Which was somewhat OK still, because they had Jrue Holiday and Jevon Carter. Now they have neither.

So while the offense may be a big enough upgrade, Dame is going to get picked on relentlessly by the likes of the Tatums and Butlers in the east.

 

[thecatch]

Jrue needs to come back to the sixers and bring the process full circle.

Seems to be the 76er way. Sell for pennies, buy for dollars.

Seriously though, what can the 76ers offer that Portland wants? Don't say Harden because they don't want him anywhere near that young team.

Harden wouldn't like our strippers.

Most strip clubs per capita in the US.

Yeah, thanks Tips. I live here. Cancels nothing of what I just said.

GM - honest question. Did the blazers do better with this trade than what Miami offered? They got one pick, an underachieving center, and jrue who they are now looking to flip. Is this better than herro and 2 picks and possibly a guy like jovic? the pick swaps are never going to be i their favor. maybe Miami didn’t offer that much but I think Cronin was more in the FU mode to Riley than maximizing value to Portland.

They’ll get a pretty decent haul for Jrue. Ayton sucks but he’s talented, I dunno, maybe they can make him care. If you couldn’t care playing with Durant I doubt you ever will, but I guess it’s worth the shot for them.

Jovic is probably pretty worthless. Nobody would know who he is if his name wasn’t similar to the MVP’s. I’d definitely take Ayton and Jrue over Herro.

The news I'm hearing is that Phoenix came to Ayton before the 2020-2021 season and told him if he played a certain way, sacrificed his scoring and rebounding for the team, did everything needed of him that they would reward him with a big contract after the season. Suns go to the Finals, lose to the Bucks and guess who didn't get paid like he was promised? He had to sign an offer with Indy which Phoenix matched to get his contract, but it wasn't what he claims he was promised. I'd be pissed too. Now, is this what happened? I dunno. It's what's making the rounds this morning.

Ayton was admirably transparent from Day 1 that his goal was just to get that first big contract. Link.

 

[SWC]

i wonder if beauchamp and crowder see more action now that jrue is gone take that to the bank brohans

 

[msudaisy26]

As a Miami fan I do have a lot of questions about this, but I'm not "crushed" that we didn't get him.

What questions? Miami made an offer, Portland said no, other teams made offers and Portland took one. There is no questions, there is no tampering it is a trade. Jimmy Buckets and the Heat are quickly going from hard working overachievers to whiney bitches really fast.

 

[the moops]

i wonder if beauchamp and crowder see more action now that jrue is gone take that to the bank brohans

Crowder is toast. He only managed 41 minutes in the playoffs last year. I wouldn't rely on anything from him

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Who is going to be Dame's backcourt mate in Milwaukee now with both of their starters gone? Are they going to roll with Connaughton I'm assuming?

Beasley?

That would be my guess.

Dame
Malik
Khris
Giannis
Brook

 

[General Malaise]

Jrue needs to come back to the sixers and bring the process full circle.

Seems to be the 76er way. Sell for pennies, buy for dollars.

Seriously though, what can the 76ers offer that Portland wants? Don't say Harden because they don't want him anywhere near that young team.

Harden wouldn't like our strippers.

Most strip clubs per capita in the US.

Yeah, thanks Tips. I live here. Cancels nothing of what I just said.

GM - honest question. Did the blazers do better with this trade than what Miami offered? They got one pick, an underachieving center, and jrue who they are now looking to flip. Is this better than herro and 2 picks and possibly a guy like jovic? the pick swaps are never going to be i their favor. maybe Miami didn’t offer that much but I think Cronin was more in the FU mode to Riley than maximizing value to Portland.

They’ll get a pretty decent haul for Jrue. Ayton sucks but he’s talented, I dunno, maybe they can make him care. If you couldn’t care playing with Durant I doubt you ever will, but I guess it’s worth the shot for them.

Jovic is probably pretty worthless. Nobody would know who he is if his name wasn’t similar to the MVP’s. I’d definitely take Ayton and Jrue over Herro.

The news I'm hearing is that Phoenix came to Ayton before the 2020-2021 season and told him if he played a certain way, sacrificed his scoring and rebounding for the team, did everything needed of him that they would reward him with a big contract after the season. Suns go to the Finals, lose to the Bucks and guess who didn't get paid like he was promised? He had to sign an offer with Indy which Phoenix matched to get his contract, but it wasn't what he claims he was promised. I'd be pissed too. Now, is this what happened? I dunno. It's what's making the rounds this morning.

Ayton was admirably transparent from Day 1 that his goal was just to get that first big contract. Link.

Isn't that the goal of every single professional athlete in any professional sport????

 

[msudaisy26]

There will definitely be a drop on defense (though they still have Giannis and Lopez protecting the paint), but Lillard’s offensive impact should more than offset that drop and give the Bucks a greater playoff ceiling.

I love this deal for MIL, but I do think some are overlooking how much of a hit MIL defense is going to take. Yes, they still have Lopez and Giannis as a back line, and that is incredible.

But we have seen both Pat Connaughton and Grayson Allen relentlessly picked on in the playoffs where it got to a point that neither of them were playable. Which was somewhat OK still, because they had Jrue Holiday and Jevon Carter. Now they have neither.

So while the offense may be a big enough upgrade, Dame is going to get picked on relentlessly by the likes of the Tatums and Butlers in the east.

This is where I am at. Does Lillard superior offensive talent trump Holiday's superior defense talent in the playoffs. I am not confident it does, but I won't be surprised if does. Bucks had to make a big change, I just don't think it guarantees them the East.

 

[Boston]

Can Celtics land Jrue Holiday? Mannix details ‘steep' asking price

What might it cost the Celtics to land Jrue Holiday? Chris Mannix breaks down what the Blazers may seek in a trade for the talented two-way guard.

www.nbcsportsboston.com

 

[Kev4029]

I'm also very very very happy for Dame to be able to play with the greatest player on the planet. I think most Blazer fans are excited for him and look forward to watching him play with Giannis. It's far more exciting than Dame with Jimmy. Even Heat fan has to be eager to see what Dame will look like in a Bucks jersey next to the Freak. That's great for all of us!

Hey - **** you bud.

 

[Desert_Power]

I'm also very very very happy for Dame to be able to play with the greatest player on the planet. I think most Blazer fans are excited for him and look forward to watching him play with Giannis. It's far more exciting than Dame with Jimmy. Even Heat fan has to be eager to see what Dame will look like in a Bucks jersey next to the Freak. That's great for all of us!

Hey - **** you bud.

That also stuck out to me

 

[General Malaise]

I'm also very very very happy for Dame to be able to play with the greatest player on the planet. I think most Blazer fans are excited for him and look forward to watching him play with Giannis. It's far more exciting than Dame with Jimmy. Even Heat fan has to be eager to see what Dame will look like in a Bucks jersey next to the Freak. That's great for all of us!

Hey - **** you bud.

That also stuck out to me

I don't get it. Is Giannis not the greatest player on the planet right now? Who is better? I'm not a rankings guy but he seems like the best player in the world.