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He's gone from averaging mid-high 5 YPC in '21 to mid-high 4 last year to under 4 this season. I can see running less, but not that much decline in production. Something is going on.
Well if he does fewer actual "run" runs, then the tush pushes make up a bigger percentage of his total rushing plays. Obviously that will bring down his ypc. I wonder how his ypc look season by season if you remove tush pushes.
QB sneaks always factor into YPC whether it's a tush push or traditional. In fact, you might could say the tush push HELPS his YPC.

They ran the tush push last year, too (when his YPC was quite a bit higher). I don't believe they're running the Sneaky Sneak enough to make a big difference in his YPC.
 
He's gone from averaging mid-high 5 YPC in '21 to mid-high 4 last year to under 4 this season. I can see running less, but not that much decline in production. Something is going on.
Well if he does fewer actual "run" runs, then the tush pushes make up a bigger percentage of his total rushing plays. Obviously that will bring down his ypc. I wonder how his ypc look season by season if you remove tush pushes.
QB sneaks always factor into YPC whether it's a tush push or traditional. In fact, you might could say the tush push HELPS his YPC.

They ran the tush push last year, too (when his YPC was quite a bit higher). I don't believe they're running the Sneaky Sneak enough to make a big difference in his YPC.


he's barely running at all. Maybe his knee will feel a bit better Sunday. Who knows. Right now he's just using his running to move in the pocket and throw for big yards. Don't really care how he gets it done as long as he does.
 
I will post my game prediction here, to not be accused of trolling with my friends over in the Philly thread. I try my best to be respectful as I loathe inane fandom shouting.

I will preface my prediction, with saying it’s with low confidence and low certainty. Both teams have warts and yet both are cabbie of playing ELITE football.

I fully expect a prototypical division game (competitive, ugly and likely high scoring). These teams know each other very well.

Stat of the day, brought to you by Red Wine. I drink that **** everyday:

When Dallas generates a turnover this year 5-0. When they don’t 0-2. I’m not sure what it is, but something looks “off” about Hurts. I think he’s good for 1-2 mistakes.

Dallas 30-27
 
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I know it’s a football thread but Rangers have a chance to win the World Series like, well…..never.
BUT NOT THIS YEAR, BABBBYYYYY. Our boys are schooling the Diamond Backs tonight!
10-0 currently.😎
LETS GO!!!
WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS 🥳🤩
congrats. Bit of a shame Phillies couldn't do their part, as it would have been fun to disuss Cowboys-Eagles as the Rangers-Phillies face off in the world series. Bring more juice to the fire
 
I will post my game prediction here, to not be accused of trolling with my friends over in the Philly thread. I try my best to be respectful as I loathe inane fandom shouting.

I will preface my prediction, with saying it’s with low confidence and low certainty. Both teams have warts and yet both are cabbie of playing ELITE football.

I fully expect a prototypical division game (competitive, ugly and likely high scoring). These teams know each other very well.

Stat of the day, brought to you by Red Wine. I drink that **** everyday:

When Dallas generates a turnover this year 5-0. When they don’t 0-2. I’m not sure what it is, but something looks “off” about Hurts. I think he’s good for 1-2 mistakes.

Dallas 30-27
Yeah this one should be fun. Both teams have their warts and question marks, and for me, I see this one going a few different ways. Your stat about Dallas generating a turnover is a bit scary, as I am not sure the Eagles can escape without having a turnover. Hurts is definitely banged up a bit and both him and Siriani are fans of hiding all injury information. I do think both WR groups have the advantage over the secondaries they are facing, so it will be interesting to see the OL and DL match-ups (as often is this case).

Should be fun and glad the Eagles have a bye after this one to get some rest and healing in before they face their gauntlet this season (DAL, bye, @KC, BUF, 49ers, @Dal, @Sea)

Eagles really need this win this Sunday, so hope they can bring it
 
Bunch of ways this could go (obviously). One thing I like is Hurts' declining rushing ability. I know he's dinged, but I was shocked how Hurts looked even early in the season. Didn't look like the same guy from just last season. Some guys simply lose their wheels early in their careers. Maybe that's it or he might be getting too bulky from squatting. Maybe Sirianni is forcing him to squat 600 so he's good at the Sneaky Sneak.

That said, despite Hurts' middling arm talent, he's got premier weapons that help him overcome it. Gotta keep a lid on those guys. We need to get protection & test that secondary of theirs.

Long-term, Hurts is going to be less & less effective as his wheels decline over time. At some point, the running ability can't compensate for the lack of arm talent & you get a tipping point. Happens to all of them eventually.
Lot of shade thrown at Jalen Hurts. I'm here for it. AJ Brown had a career high of 1075 yards WR and 11 TDs before he came to Philly. First year with Hurts he broke the Eagles receiving yards records and had 11 touchdowns. And that is with Devonta Smith having 1196 yards himself as well. Also has a 30-12 record in his first 42 starts. Guessing Dak wasn't quite at that winning % his first 42 games, despite starting his career 13-3. And for anyone saying "loaded team" the year Jalen was drafted, the team went 4-11-1. And then started 2021 with a completely new HC/DC/OC.

Now is the team loaded now, sure. That's testament to Howie Roseman doing what he does and adding premium players all over the place with any method possible.

And before we go too far down this road, I'd like to hear your best 3-5 QB's in the league without good WRs. You can start with Patrick Mahomes, and go from there.
I think you’re taking the Hurts shade the wrong way. I’m not the only who feels the same. Loss of elite running ability for a QB with middling (or average) arm talent is a real concern for your franchise in the coming years. As a Cowboys fan, I admit I love it, but that’s to be expected.

Nothing was said about your team or Roseman. It was just an observation about Hurts.

Good luck this week (not). ;)
Ok fair enough. "How far you can throw a ball" only takes you so far. Hurts drops the deep ball with the best of em. How far is "arm talent" taking Zach Wilson, for instance?

I'd say Dak and Hurts probably have about the same level of "arm talent" do you disagree?

And that's fine if you are waiting for Hurts' demise. He's 5 years younger than Dak, and while he is hobbled this year a bit, I'm not seeing him going anywhere any time real soon.

Nice chatting with you though.
The short answer is Hurts without his legs would've been lucky to be drafted. For one, if he had average wheels, he wouldn't have been recruited by Alabama. His running ability is what helps make him so effective. Doesn't mean he can't improve his passing skills (he has since being drafted), but if his running ability is deteriorating the way it seems, he's a completely different QB. It's no secret.

That said, Hurts' weapons help immensely, but these types of QBs have been down this road before. It rarely ends up pretty. Not saying it's happening this season or even next, but the chances of him being a top QB once he's just a guy with his legs is rather small.

If you're asking me who has more raw arm talent, it's Dak, but that doesn't mean he's a better QB right now. BTW, I like that Dak is starting to use his legs again. I thought his wheels might be deteriorating, but he's looked spry these last couple weeks.
 
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Bunch of ways this could go (obviously). One thing I like is Hurts' declining rushing ability. I know he's dinged, but I was shocked how Hurts looked even early in the season. Didn't look like the same guy from just last season. Some guys simply lose their wheels early in their careers. Maybe that's it or he might be getting too bulky from squatting. Maybe Sirianni is forcing him to squat 600 so he's good at the Sneaky Sneak.

That said, despite Hurts' middling arm talent, he's got premier weapons that help him overcome it. Gotta keep a lid on those guys. We need to get protection & test that secondary of theirs.

Long-term, Hurts is going to be less & less effective as his wheels decline over time. At some point, the running ability can't compensate for the lack of arm talent & you get a tipping point. Happens to all of them eventually.
Lot of shade thrown at Jalen Hurts. I'm here for it. AJ Brown had a career high of 1075 yards WR and 11 TDs before he came to Philly. First year with Hurts he broke the Eagles receiving yards records and had 11 touchdowns. And that is with Devonta Smith having 1196 yards himself as well. Also has a 30-12 record in his first 42 starts. Guessing Dak wasn't quite at that winning % his first 42 games, despite starting his career 13-3. And for anyone saying "loaded team" the year Jalen was drafted, the team went 4-11-1. And then started 2021 with a completely new HC/DC/OC.

Now is the team loaded now, sure. That's testament to Howie Roseman doing what he does and adding premium players all over the place with any method possible.

And before we go too far down this road, I'd like to hear your best 3-5 QB's in the league without good WRs. You can start with Patrick Mahomes, and go from there.
I think you’re taking the Hurts shade the wrong way. I’m not the only who feels the same. Loss of elite running ability for a QB with middling (or average) arm talent is a real concern for your franchise in the coming years. As a Cowboys fan, I admit I love it, but that’s to be expected.

Nothing was said about your team or Roseman. It was just an observation about Hurts.

Good luck this week (not). ;)
Ok fair enough. "How far you can throw a ball" only takes you so far. Hurts drops the deep ball with the best of em. How far is "arm talent" taking Zach Wilson, for instance?

I'd say Dak and Hurts probably have about the same level of "arm talent" do you disagree?

And that's fine if you are waiting for Hurts' demise. He's 5 years younger than Dak, and while he is hobbled this year a bit, I'm not seeing him going anywhere any time real soon.

Nice chatting with you though.

If you're asking me who has more raw arm talent, it's Dak, but that doesn't mean he's a better QB right now.
Prescott is in his 8th season compared to Hurts' 4th, Prescott has over 3500 attempts to Hurts' 1322. This of course considering two "incomplete" regular season from Prescott, and Hurts only starting 4 games in his rookie season. At this point in Prescott's career, you can't call anything about him "raw". Now as arm talent, at this point he has more of a "purer" arm talent to Hurts but not by much. Hurts is more "raw" than Prescott simply by starts alone, and helped win more games in a single season in his second season as a full time starter than Prescott has, which wasn't even Prescott's best season as starter.
 
Bunch of ways this could go (obviously). One thing I like is Hurts' declining rushing ability. I know he's dinged, but I was shocked how Hurts looked even early in the season. Didn't look like the same guy from just last season. Some guys simply lose their wheels early in their careers. Maybe that's it or he might be getting too bulky from squatting. Maybe Sirianni is forcing him to squat 600 so he's good at the Sneaky Sneak.

That said, despite Hurts' middling arm talent, he's got premier weapons that help him overcome it. Gotta keep a lid on those guys. We need to get protection & test that secondary of theirs.

Long-term, Hurts is going to be less & less effective as his wheels decline over time. At some point, the running ability can't compensate for the lack of arm talent & you get a tipping point. Happens to all of them eventually.
Lot of shade thrown at Jalen Hurts. I'm here for it. AJ Brown had a career high of 1075 yards WR and 11 TDs before he came to Philly. First year with Hurts he broke the Eagles receiving yards records and had 11 touchdowns. And that is with Devonta Smith having 1196 yards himself as well. Also has a 30-12 record in his first 42 starts. Guessing Dak wasn't quite at that winning % his first 42 games, despite starting his career 13-3. And for anyone saying "loaded team" the year Jalen was drafted, the team went 4-11-1. And then started 2021 with a completely new HC/DC/OC.

Now is the team loaded now, sure. That's testament to Howie Roseman doing what he does and adding premium players all over the place with any method possible.

And before we go too far down this road, I'd like to hear your best 3-5 QB's in the league without good WRs. You can start with Patrick Mahomes, and go from there.
I think you’re taking the Hurts shade the wrong way. I’m not the only who feels the same. Loss of elite running ability for a QB with middling (or average) arm talent is a real concern for your franchise in the coming years. As a Cowboys fan, I admit I love it, but that’s to be expected.

Nothing was said about your team or Roseman. It was just an observation about Hurts.

Good luck this week (not). ;)
Ok fair enough. "How far you can throw a ball" only takes you so far. Hurts drops the deep ball with the best of em. How far is "arm talent" taking Zach Wilson, for instance?

I'd say Dak and Hurts probably have about the same level of "arm talent" do you disagree?

And that's fine if you are waiting for Hurts' demise. He's 5 years younger than Dak, and while he is hobbled this year a bit, I'm not seeing him going anywhere any time real soon.

Nice chatting with you though.

If you're asking me who has more raw arm talent, it's Dak, but that doesn't mean he's a better QB right now.
Prescott is in his 8th season compared to Hurts' 4th, Prescott has over 3500 attempts to Hurts' 1322. This of course considering two "incomplete" regular season from Prescott, and Hurts only starting 4 games in his rookie season. At this point in Prescott's career, you can't call anything about him "raw". Now as arm talent, at this point he has more of a "purer" arm talent to Hurts but not by much. Hurts is more "raw" than Prescott simply by starts alone, and helped win more games in a single season in his second season as a full time starter than Prescott has, which wasn't even Prescott's best season as starter.
You misunderstand.

“Raw” as in natural arm talent (like raw athletic ability), not raw as in rough around the edges.
 
Figure out a way to put Hurts on his *** early and often and they’ll have a great chance to win

If the Eagles come out running it down they’re throat they’re in trouble imo
 
This game proved everything I already knew about the Eagles, Cowboys and the state of NFL reffing/connection to gambling.
We can’t blame the refs. We lost because of attention to detail. Jimmy Johnson pointed that out yesterday. This is why, under McCarthy and Jones, we will never win anything of consequence.

We fail every test game, period.

Crushed by SF and take the L yesterday. This team, like the past several additions, is on a treadmill to nowhere.
 
This game proved everything I already knew about the Eagles, Cowboys and the state of NFL reffing/connection to gambling.
We can’t blame the refs. We lost because of attention to detail. Jimmy Johnson pointed that out yesterday. This is why, under McCarthy and Jones, we will never win anything of consequence.

We fail every test game, period.

Crushed by SF and take the L yesterday. This team, like the past several additions, is on a treadmill to nowhere.
I’m not blaming the refs. They were terrible though. I was smart and bet the Eagles.

Dallas is really good - but won’t go far.

Philly is about a quarter notch higher - also not winning a Championship with that defense.

Coach Nick has the most punchable face in the NFL.
 
This game proved everything I already knew about the Eagles, Cowboys and the state of NFL reffing/connection to gambling.
We can’t blame the refs. We lost because of attention to detail. Jimmy Johnson pointed that out yesterday. This is why, under McCarthy and Jones, we will never win anything of consequence.

We fail every test game, period.

Crushed by SF and take the L yesterday. This team, like the past several additions, is on a treadmill to nowhere.
I’m not blaming the refs. They were terrible though. I was smart and bet the Eagles.

Dallas is really good - but won’t go far.

Philly is about a quarter notch higher - also not winning a Championship with that defense.

Coach Nick has the most punchable face in the NFL.
Legitimately, you all got jobbed by the zebras on 3 plays: The Gilmore DPI, the non-call hold on Parsons on Philly's last? drive, and the hands to the face flag that was picked up. The only one that would've had a significant impact on the outcome was the flag that was picked up. That was just weird.

Dallas is a good, good team. That was a flukey game, and definitely could've gone either way. Dak balled out most of the game, and did carry the team for most of the game. But, I just don;t think he is clutch, and that made all the difference yesterday. Philly tried to gift you that game, as much as Dallas gifted us.

See you in Arlington.
 
I continue to think this team is wildly talented, and that our coaching is an issue. While some of the flags yesterday sucked, the poor use of timeouts, poorly timed penalties, and the little details (like yes it sucks that Schoonmaker didn't quite get in the endzone, but one might also say that a well-coached team runs that route deep another foot because they're well-coached on the details) continue to pile up.

Defensively we look pretty good against a great offensive team.
 
This game proved everything I already knew about the Eagles, Cowboys and the state of NFL reffing/connection to gambling.
We can’t blame the refs. We lost because of attention to detail. Jimmy Johnson pointed that out yesterday. This is why, under McCarthy and Jones, we will never win anything of consequence.

We fail every test game, period.

Crushed by SF and take the L yesterday. This team, like the past several additions, is on a treadmill to nowhere.
I’m not blaming the refs. They were terrible though. I was smart and bet the Eagles.

Dallas is really good - but won’t go far.

Philly is about a quarter notch higher - also not winning a Championship with that defense.

Coach Nick has the most punchable face in the NFL.
Legitimately, you all got jobbed by the zebras on 3 plays: The Gilmore DPI, the non-call hold on Parsons on Philly's last? drive, and the hands to the face flag that was picked up. The only one that would've had a significant impact on the outcome was the flag that was picked up. That was just weird.

Dallas is a good, good team. That was a flukey game, and definitely could've gone either way. Dak balled out most of the game, and did carry the team for most of the game. But, I just don;t think he is clutch, and that made all the difference yesterday. Philly tried to gift you that game, as much as Dallas gifted us.

See you in Arlington.
Dallas is good, you are correct, but not great and not a legitimate contender. Top of the second tier but a clear rung below the great teams. #5 seed and a loser in the divisional round. Book it.
 
Dallas lost to Philly because they didn’t score enough points. Not because of the refs.
But the officiating in this league is a ****ing joke. And it was one sided in this one

🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Murdered them in all phases. CeeDee making the case as the best WR in the league by being everywhere on the field. That one handed catch and some of those comeback routes? Wow
Last 4 games:
41 receptions / 617 yards/ 4 TDs
Has to be a record?
 
The Giants were 2-7 coming into todays game starting their 3rd string QB. I need to see a win against a good team.
 
Not sure if anyone else is like me, but with being a fan of this team for so long and knowing this team so well…I can’t even really even enjoy wins like yesterday. Only the playoffs matter.

They were dominate, but that’s what it should be against the Giants.
 
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Not sure if anyone else is like me, but with being a fan of this team for so long and knowing this team so well…I can’t even really even enjoy wins like yesterday. Only the playoffs matter.

They were dominate, but that’s what it should be against the Giants.
Agreed. A win is a win. 6-3 is solid, but we know, given the talent of this team, the trajectory of this team portends a divisional round loss to SF or Philly until we actually see a win in a measuring stick game.
 
The Giants were 2-7 coming into todays game starting their 3rd string QB. I need to see a win against a good team.
Gonna have to wait three more weeks. Two layups incoming.
True. I am interested in how we do in the next few weeks after that:

Seahawks
Eagles
Bills
Dolphins
Lions
Likely go 1-4 during this stretch, maybe 2-3.
Unless we go 3-2 or 4-1, there is no rational reasoning behind thinking the big picture has changed.
 
The Giants were 2-7 coming into todays game starting their 3rd string QB. I need to see a win against a good team.
Gonna have to wait three more weeks. Two layups incoming.
True. I am interested in how we do in the next few weeks after that:

Seahawks
Eagles
Bills
Dolphins
Lions
Likely go 1-4 during this stretch, maybe 2-3.
Unless we go 3-2 or 4-1, there is no rational reasoning behind thinking the big picture has changed.

Would argue even 5-0 the big picture hasn't changed.
 
The Giants were 2-7 coming into todays game starting their 3rd string QB. I need to see a win against a good team.
Gonna have to wait three more weeks. Two layups incoming.
True. I am interested in how we do in the next few weeks after that:

Seahawks
Eagles
Bills
Dolphins
Lions
Likely go 1-4 during this stretch, maybe 2-3.
Unless we go 3-2 or 4-1, there is no rational reasoning behind thinking the big picture has changed.

Would argue even 5-0 the big picture hasn't changed.
Can’t disagree at all, with one exception: the Eagles. If they win that game, that’s pretty big, as it could put them in play for the NFC East title. That would show something.

Of course, they’ll likely lose but, if the Boys could get a home win in a big spot, I’d change my tune, at least a little.
 
The Giants were 2-7 coming into todays game starting their 3rd string QB. I need to see a win against a good team.
Gonna have to wait three more weeks. Two layups incoming.
True. I am interested in how we do in the next few weeks after that:

Seahawks
Eagles
Bills
Dolphins
Lions
Nice, didn't realize you guys had that tough of a stretch too. Winning the Div will be an astronomical advantage this year, as there are some really good division winners that will be tough to win at on the road. However, whoever gets 2nd in the NFC East is likely to have a layup in R1 vs the Saints/Falcons/Bucs.
 
The Giants were 2-7 coming into todays game starting their 3rd string QB. I need to see a win against a good team.
Gonna have to wait three more weeks. Two layups incoming.
True. I am interested in how we do in the next few weeks after that:

Seahawks
Eagles
Bills
Dolphins
Lions
Nice, didn't realize you guys had that tough of a stretch too. Winning the Div will be an astronomical advantage this year, as there are some really good division winners that will be tough to win at on the road. However, whoever gets 2nd in the NFC East is likely to have a layup in R1 vs the Saints/Falcons/Bucs.
I don’t really see a path for the Cowboys to win the division because that Cardinals game will most likely cost us the tiebreaker amongst common opponents. The Eagles possibly losing to the Chiefs next week may look the standings look closer but doesn’t really help much with winning the division. Therefore we will have to have a better record than the Eagles, meaning the Eagles will have to lose three more games than than the Cowboys and they might not lose 3 more games all year.

The interesting thing is if the Lions get the #1 seed and in that case 2nd in the NFC East is more desirable than 1st. In this scenario, if Dal, SF, and PHI all win round 1 Dallas would play the Lions in round 2 while SF/Philly would go head to head. I would rather play an inexperienced playoff team in the Lions in round 2 than SF or PHI. Teams that play SF lose very frequently the next week. Who knows what could happen.
 
The Giants were 2-7 coming into todays game starting their 3rd string QB. I need to see a win against a good team.
Gonna have to wait three more weeks. Two layups incoming.
True. I am interested in how we do in the next few weeks after that:

Seahawks
Eagles
Bills
Dolphins
Lions
Nice, didn't realize you guys had that tough of a stretch too. Winning the Div will be an astronomical advantage this year, as there are some really good division winners that will be tough to win at on the road. However, whoever gets 2nd in the NFC East is likely to have a layup in R1 vs the Saints/Falcons/Bucs.
I don’t really see a path for the Cowboys to win the division because that Cardinals game will most likely cost us the tiebreaker amongst common opponents. The Eagles possibly losing to the Chiefs next week may look the standings look closer but doesn’t really help much with winning the division. Therefore we will have to have a better record than the Eagles, meaning the Eagles will have to lose three more games than than the Cowboys and they might not lose 3 more games all year.

The interesting thing is if the Lions get the #1 seed and in that case 2nd in the NFC East is more desirable than 1st. In this scenario, if Dal, SF, and PHI all win round 1 Dallas would play the Lions in round 2 while SF/Philly would go head to head. I would rather play an inexperienced playoff team in the Lions in round 2 than SF or PHI. Teams that play SF lose very frequently the next week. Who knows what could happen.
Interesting thought. There's a couple issues with that though:

1. There's actually a decent chance that Minnesota or Seattle could have a better record than 2nd in the NFC East. If this happens, first round game would be either @SF or @PHI. That would be brutal.

2. If you make the NFC Championship, if you had won the div you'd likely be HOSTING that game.


1- DET

2- NFCE Champ/SF
3- SF/NFCE CHamp
4- BUCS
5- SEA/NFCE 2nd
6- NFCE 2nd/SEA
7- MIN
 
Ceedee Lamb with a new nfl record!


“Lamb had 11 receptions for 151 yards and one touchdown in the win, and he also had a 14-yard touchdown on the ground.

It marked the third straight game that Lamb had at least 10 receptions and 150 receiving yards, which set an NFL record during the Super Bowl era, per Harris.“

Can’t wait to see if he can extend the record this week :popcorn:
 
You can give this franchise a ton of **** but holy crap have the redskins been just bad for ages now. At least we **** the bed in the playoffs in spectacular fashion.
 
As great as possible DPOY Micah has played (another two sacks yesterday), Bland says “Hold my beer”. Just amazing considering he came in later in the year from nickel corner to full time corner after Diggs went down. This guy leads the league in a couple of categories! I won’t be shocked if he gets another one or two pick 6’s since apparently OC’s are going to throw at him.😂
 
Injuries have slowed him down the last couple seasons. He still has potential to be really good, but I don’t think he’ll ever see Pro Bowl levels again.

That said, with the Zach Cunningham injury- really hoping he signs in Philly.
 
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