2023 Detroit Lions: Draft: Detroit has a new Gibby, another Campbell. An Iowa TE again and picked up some Branches and a Hooker. (3 Viewers)

[Moonlight]

the player wasn't a prominent member of the team.

Just guessing by the position group most hit last time, I'm going with Trinity Benson.

Part time and injured guys who had too much time on their hands.

 

[Moonlight]

Jameson Williams stating he didn’t know that he was violating NFL gambling restrictions is troubling.
I suppose it means that he either didn’t take the time to read the rules or he may not be truthful.
Or in the alternative the Lions organization did not adequately take steps to educate him about the rules. The fact that so many players were found to be in violation with apparently another player under investigation suggests that this more likely is the case.

I work for a corporation that doesn't make even a 1000th of what the NFL makes and we have handbooks, meetings and an HR department that handles this and makes sure everyone has access to the rules. You will never convince me that the NFL didn't tell their employees about these rules in some attempt to trap a handful of employees and make examples out of them or they just forgot.

Every employee of the NFL has been given these rules in some form of meeting, handbook, or something and I would bet a lot of money (pun intended) it has been more than once.

Anyone that violated these rules that says they didn't know are lying or didn't pay attention at the correct time.

With that said part of the rule is stupid, but it still a rule.

Usually there are sign in sheets or required signed statements that state you were in attendance and/or received the policy handbook.

Williams violating the rule and saying that that it came out of the blue puts him in knucklehead territory. Increased mentoring is needed.

 

[Ilov80s]

Jameson Williams stating he didn’t know that he was violating NFL gambling restrictions is troubling.
I suppose it means that he either didn’t take the time to read the rules or he may not be truthful.
Or in the alternative the Lions organization did not adequately take steps to educate him about the rules. The fact that so many players were found to be in violation with apparently another player under investigation suggests that this more likely is the case.

I work for a corporation that doesn't make even a 1000th of what the NFL makes and we have handbooks, meetings and an HR department that handles this and makes sure everyone has access to the rules. You will never convince me that the NFL didn't tell their employees about these rules in some attempt to trap a handful of employees and make examples out of them or they just forgot.

Every employee of the NFL has been given these rules in some form of meeting, handbook, or something and I would bet a lot of money (pun intended) it has been more than once.

Anyone that violated these rules that says they didn't know are lying or didn't pay attention at the correct time.

With that said part of the rule is stupid, but it still a rule.

As a teacher with a wife in HR, I can assure you something like 50% of the people aren't paying any attention.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Jameson Williams stating he didn’t know that he was violating NFL gambling restrictions is troubling.
I suppose it means that he either didn’t take the time to read the rules or he may not be truthful.
Or in the alternative the Lions organization did not adequately take steps to educate him about the rules. The fact that so many players were found to be in violation with apparently another player under investigation suggests that this more likely is the case.

I work for a corporation that doesn't make even a 1000th of what the NFL makes and we have handbooks, meetings and an HR department that handles this and makes sure everyone has access to the rules. You will never convince me that the NFL didn't tell their employees about these rules in some attempt to trap a handful of employees and make examples out of them or they just forgot.

Every employee of the NFL has been given these rules in some form of meeting, handbook, or something and I would bet a lot of money (pun intended) it has been more than once.

Anyone that violated these rules that says they didn't know are lying or didn't pay attention at the correct time.

With that said part of the rule is stupid, but it still a rule.

As a teacher with a wife in HR, I can assure you something like 50% of the people aren't paying any attention.

Then that is their fault and not the organization.

 

[Ilov80s]

Jameson Williams stating he didn’t know that he was violating NFL gambling restrictions is troubling.
I suppose it means that he either didn’t take the time to read the rules or he may not be truthful.
Or in the alternative the Lions organization did not adequately take steps to educate him about the rules. The fact that so many players were found to be in violation with apparently another player under investigation suggests that this more likely is the case.

I work for a corporation that doesn't make even a 1000th of what the NFL makes and we have handbooks, meetings and an HR department that handles this and makes sure everyone has access to the rules. You will never convince me that the NFL didn't tell their employees about these rules in some attempt to trap a handful of employees and make examples out of them or they just forgot.

Every employee of the NFL has been given these rules in some form of meeting, handbook, or something and I would bet a lot of money (pun intended) it has been more than once.

Anyone that violated these rules that says they didn't know are lying or didn't pay attention at the correct time.

With that said part of the rule is stupid, but it still a rule.

As a teacher with a wife in HR, I can assure you something like 50% of the people aren't paying any attention.

Then that is their fault and not the organization.

Of course. I always laugh when I hear adults complaining about some basic historical thing they just learned about via news/social media and be like "why didn't they teach us about that in school!". Bro, they did teach you about it. Your *** just wasn't listening, you were too busy complaining that "history is boring" and "when will I ever need to know this".

 

[jon_mx]

Brad Holmes has been the king of finding hidden gems deep in the draft and even UDFA. I think he will hit two this year. Who are going to be this year's big hits?

Late 3rd rounder, DT Brodric Martin.

5th Rounder, OL Colby Sorsdal.

7th Round, WR Antoine Green

UDFA running back Mohamed Ibrahim.

I think Martin and Sorsdal are both projects, which incredible physical attributes. Definitely practice squad with a shot at being a depth piece. If either becomes a starter in a couple of years, that would be an amazing pick.

I believe both Green and Ibrahim have a real shot at the 53-man roster as WR5 and RB3/RB4. More as special teamers, but also getting an occasional touch.

I am not seeing an ARSB or James Houston yet, but I think all four of these guys have potential to surprise on the up side and be a far bigger impact that anyone suspects. That said, my pick is going to be Sosdal as being the biggest surprise by eventually becoming a starter.

 

[Moonlight]

Brad Holmes has been the king of finding hidden gems deep in the draft and even UDFA. I think he will hit two this year. Who are going to be this year's big hits?

Late 3rd rounder, DT Brodric Martin.

5th Rounder, OL Colby Sorsdal.

7th Round, WR Antoine Green

UDFA running back Mohamed Ibrahim.

I think Martin and Sorsdal are both projects, which incredible physical attributes. Definitely practice squad with a shot at being a depth piece. If either becomes a starter in a couple of years, that would be an amazing pick.

I believe both Green and Ibrahim have a real shot at the 53-man roster as WR5 and RB3/RB4. More as special teamers, but also getting an occasional touch.

I am not seeing an ARSB or James Houston yet, but I think all four of these guys have potential to surprise on the up side and be a far bigger impact that anyone suspects. That said, my pick is going to be Sosdal as being the biggest surprise by eventually becoming a starter.

Nice article today on Sorsdal on the Pride of Detroit site.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Brad Holmes has been the king of finding hidden gems deep in the draft and even UDFA. I think he will hit two this year. Who are going to be this year's big hits?

Late 3rd rounder, DT Brodric Martin.

5th Rounder, OL Colby Sorsdal.

7th Round, WR Antoine Green

UDFA running back Mohamed Ibrahim.

I think Martin and Sorsdal are both projects, which incredible physical attributes. Definitely practice squad with a shot at being a depth piece. If either becomes a starter in a couple of years, that would be an amazing pick.

I believe both Green and Ibrahim have a real shot at the 53-man roster as WR5 and RB3/RB4. More as special teamers, but also getting an occasional touch.

I am not seeing an ARSB or James Houston yet, but I think all four of these guys have potential to surprise on the up side and be a far bigger impact that anyone suspects. That said, my pick is going to be Sosdal as being the biggest surprise by eventually becoming a starter.

Nice article today on Sorsdal on the Pride of Detroit site.

article is based on this YT podcast:

Why Lions 5th-round pick Colby Sorsdal is a FUTURE STARTER w/Duke Manyweather

I got nothing against Manyweather, he's very effective at marketing himself. He's found a niche segment (preparing elite OL for the NfL Draft) and he gets how important it is to have multiple streams (social media, reality show, et al.) That's fine, good on him, the modern "entrepreneur." But he's a trainer. Not an independent evaluator. He's literally a paid hype man. Now he's been a trainer to some elite OL and his opinion carries....some weight....but he works for the player, it's in his best interest to see them succeed and to get favorable treatment in the media.

 

[jon_mx]

Brad Holmes has been the king of finding hidden gems deep in the draft and even UDFA. I think he will hit two this year. Who are going to be this year's big hits?

Late 3rd rounder, DT Brodric Martin.

5th Rounder, OL Colby Sorsdal.

7th Round, WR Antoine Green

UDFA running back Mohamed Ibrahim.

I think Martin and Sorsdal are both projects, which incredible physical attributes. Definitely practice squad with a shot at being a depth piece. If either becomes a starter in a couple of years, that would be an amazing pick.

I believe both Green and Ibrahim have a real shot at the 53-man roster as WR5 and RB3/RB4. More as special teamers, but also getting an occasional touch.

I am not seeing an ARSB or James Houston yet, but I think all four of these guys have potential to surprise on the up side and be a far bigger impact that anyone suspects. That said, my pick is going to be Sosdal as being the biggest surprise by eventually becoming a starter.

Nice article today on Sorsdal on the Pride of Detroit site.

article is based on this YT podcast:

Why Lions 5th-round pick Colby Sorsdal is a FUTURE STARTER w/Duke Manyweather

I got nothing against Manyweather, he's very effective at marketing himself. He's found a niche segment (preparing elite OL for the NfL Draft) and he gets how important it is to have multiple streams (social media, reality show, et al.) That's fine, good on him, the modern "entrepreneur." But he's a trainer. Not an independent evaluator. He's literally a paid hype man. Now he's been a trainer to some elite OL and his opinion carries....some weight....but he works for the player, it's in his best interest to see them succeed and to get favorable treatment in the media.

The fact that Sorsdal is putting in that kind of work in itself seems promising. These are the kind of guys the Lions target, people that put in maximum effort to be the best player they can possibly be. Sorsdal is only going to help promote Merryweather's company if he can become a starter and get that second contract. Right now he is only a potential Cinderella story which has not been written.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Anyone concerned? Apparently Jared forgot how to play football in the last 4-1/2 months.

Lions QB Jared Goff Turns Heads After Struggling at OTAs

6 Studs from Lions OTAs, 1 Dud

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100 days until kickoff....

Somebody was complaining the other day the offseason is so long. Man, I feel like I just hosted a SNF watch party a few weeks ago and the opener is right around the corner.

20 weeks, 2 days since we beat the Pack....14 weeks, 2 days until we unveil 2023.

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Shannon Sharpe Says Detroit Lions Is Best Fit For Free Agent WR Deandre Hopkins

Why is the 2023 Detroit Lions team different?

 

[BobbyLayne]

Obscure, low sub YT channel I strangely enjoy - Roar of the Lions UK - did a full eval of the Lions 90-man. For a bunch of Brits who don't know jack about American football (j/k @TartanLion) they did OK I think. A few debatable placements.

Thoughts?

• 5 Roster Cornerstone - Amon-Ra St Brown, Frank Ragnow, Penei Sewell, Aidan Hutchinson, Jack Fox
• 8 Quality Starter - Jared Goff, David Montgomery, Taylor Decker, Jonah Jackson, Alim McNeil, C.J. Gardner-Johnson, Cam Sutton, Kerby Joseph
• 11 Average Starter - Kalif Raymond, Hal Vaitai, Graham Glasgow, Romeo Okwara, John Cominsky, Isaiah Buggs, Alex Anzalone, Emmanuel Moseley, Tracey Walker III, Michael Badgley, Riley Patterson
• 9 Quality Backup - Brock Wright, Josh Reynolds, Marvin Jones Jr, Germain Ifedi, Charles Harris, James Reeves-Maybin, Malcolm Rodriguez, Will Harris, Jerry Jacobs
• 9 Replacement Level - Jason Cabinda, Matt Nelson, Kayode Awosika, Benito Jones, Christian Covington, Derrick Barnes, Brady Breeze, Scott Daly, Jake McQuade
• 12 Incomplete Eval - Craig Reynolds, Jermar Jefferson, Greg Bell, James Mitchell, Jameson Williams, Josh Paschal, Levi Onwuzurike, James Houston IV, Jarren Williams, Chase Lucas, Ifeatu Melifonwu, Saivion Smith
• 23 Rookie - Hendon Hooker, Adrian Marinez, Jahmyr Gibbs, Mohammed Ibrahim, Sam LaPorta, Dylan Drummond, Antoine Green, Chase Cota, Connor Galvin, Brad Cecil, Colby Sorsdal, Ryan Swoboda, Brodric Martin, Chris Smith, Cory Durden, Zach Morton, Jack Campbell, Trevor Nowaske, Brian Branch, Starling Thomas V, Brandon Joseph, Steven Gilmore, John Parker Romo
• 10 PS Level - Nate Sudfeld, Shane Zylstra, Maurice Alexander, Trinity Benson, Tom Kennedy, Max Pircher, Ross Pierschbacher, Logan Stenberg, julian Okwara, Anthony Pittman
• 3 Not Roster Worthy - Derrick Deese Jr, Darrin Paulo, Khalil Dorsey

edit - looks like they missed T Obinna Eze (Incomplete / PS Level)

 

[jon_mx]

Anyone concerned? Apparently Jared forgot how to play football in the last 4-1/2 months.

Lions QB Jared Goff Turns Heads After Struggling at OTAs

6 Studs from Lions OTAs, 1 Dud

***************

100 days until kickoff....

Somebody was complaining the other day the offseason is so long. Man, I feel like I just hosted a SNF watch party a few weeks ago and the opener is right around the corner.

20 weeks, 2 days since we beat the Pack....14 weeks, 2 days until we unveil 2023.

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Shannon Sharpe Says Detroit Lions Is Best Fit For Free Agent WR Deandre Hopkins

Why is the 2023 Detroit Lions team different?

Something about Goff throwing to new targets, he always stinks. I think they have to romance him a bit, before Goff warms up to them and gets them the ball.

 

[BobbyLayne]

We really have a 91 man roster going into camp bc OL Max Pircher doesn't count against the limit (International Pathway player.) He also won't count against the PS if they keep him around for development.

The way-too-early 53 Man Projection 2.0

• QB (3) - Goff, Sudfeld, Hooker (Hendon probably starts the year on NFI?)
• RB (4) - Montgomery, Gibbs, Reynolds, Ibrahim
• FB (0) - I don't think Cabinda makes it but they do like him; just don't see the point of a guy who plays so few snaps. OFF - 98, ST - 91
• WR (5) - ARSB, MJJ, Reynolds, Raymond, Green; Jamo on suspension first 6
• TE (3) - LaPorta, Mitchell, Wright (seems light - think they prefer 4)
• OL (9) - Decker-Jackson-Ragnow-Vatai-Sewell starters; Awosika, Glasgow, Ifedi, Sorsdal backups
  Offense - 24
• 1-tech (2) - Buggs, Martin
• 3-tech (2) - McNeil, Covington
• 4-I/5-tech (3) - Cominsky, R. Okwara, Paschal
• Edge (2) - Hutchinson, Harris
• DPR/Jack (2) - Houston IV, Barnes
• Mike (2) - Campbell, Rodriguez
• Off LB (2) - Anzalone, Nowaske (over JRM? IDK about that)
• LCB (2) - Sutton, Harris
• NB (3) - CJGJ, Branch, Thomas V
• SS (2) - Walker III, Melifonwu
• FS (2) - Joseph, S. Smith (may start year on PUP)
• RCB (2) - Moseley (may start year on PUP), Jacobs
  Defense - 26
• K (1) - Patterson
• P (1) - Fox
• LS (1) - McQuade
  specialists - 3

 

[Foosball God]

I don't worry about anything in the Spring

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I don't worry about anything in the Spring

100 days until the first game that counts. I'm just glad the weather is nice.

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't worry about anything in the Spring

100 days until the first game that counts. I'm just glad the weather is nice.

Same. Grill the shrimp, wash the car, mow the lawn, drink the beer, enjoy the beach. That's the priorities now.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Everything zen Lions fans are easier to take than SOLers

OTA workouts: May 31-June 2, June 12-15
Mandatory Minicamp: June 6-8

There may be news. You should ignore it (probably.)

 

[jon_mx]

I am on the edge of my seat waiting for that imminent signing of DeAndre Hopkins by Detroit. The overwhelming consensus on the interwebs is this must be done.

I think we need to work on what we have and get some of our young studs extended.

 

[BobbyLayne]

MCDC OTA Presser

 

[Moonlight]

I am on the edge of my seat waiting for that imminent signing of DeAndre Hopkins by Detroit. The overwhelming consensus on the interwebs is this must be done.

I think we need to work on what we have and get some of our young studs extended.

I don’t think they will want to sign him for the money and length of contract he will ask. Hopkins is said to be a 50/50 ball type of player and he is getting old. Too much like MarvinJones. Though I’d like to have him over MJ.
As you suggest money may need to spent locking up their core.

 

[Moonlight]

Parker Romo impressive in kicking competition today. Made 3 of 4 from 55 yds and beyond

Only miss was just wide from 63 yds

 

[jon_mx]

Parker Romo impressive in kicking competition today. Made 3 of 4 from 55 yds and beyond

Only miss was just wide from 63 yds

I have no idea what kicks are like in the XFL, but if he can maintain that accuracy and this range, he should win the job.

 

[BobbyLayne]

@Justin_Rogers

Dan Campbell said he was out in Grand Rapids for one of his daughter's volleyball tournaments. Said he interacted with a lot of fans and got a "Don't forget about us" impression. Said he's had some thoughts about taking a portion of training camp on the road to the west side.

Question: Who is sitting out today?
Campbell: I don't know, 15 to 20 guys, maybe 30.

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MCDC 1st Day of Mini Camp presser

Said both the Giants and Jaguars joint practices will be for 2 sessions.
Asked about defensive players talking trash, said they have a chip on their shoulder. "We want to be a top-tier defense."
"Jared Goff is a better QB now than he was with the Rams. We ask him to do a lot more, in my opinion, than what they were actually doing out there. He's light years ahead of where he was two years ago."

 

[BobbyLayne]

@kmeinke

Jared Goff, when asked about Jameson Williams liking a tweet about Lamar Jackson playing QB for Detroit:

"You guys are bored, huh?"

 

[jon_mx]

LaPorta and Gibbs seem to be getting the most raves early on. More people are doubful that Levi will ever suit up again.