Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Should the Raiders trade Adams even though they say publicly they are not interested?
"I didn't come here to hang out"
"I didn't come here to hang out"
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2023 Las Vegas Raiders - RIP Jack - one of the greatest Super Bowl moments ever (4 Viewers)
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DocHolliday
Footballguy
Yes but I think the finances would make it difficult.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Checked the prices and seeing $100 for nosebleed seats which is more than I will want to spend for a crap seat. I am sure prices will drop much more a little later today but I would need to head to the city to anticipate that and I don't have the energy for that right now. Plus my daughter has a basketball game today. It should be a good game too as it is from one of the few teams that have beat them this season. It looks like I will be watching this epic QB battle from home.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
"When you’re a player like me, mentally, my benchmark is not wins and losses. It’s greatness.
“So when I go out there, I expect to be able to have that ability to put that on tape and have an influence on the game. That’s my purpose for being here. I’m not here just to hang out. I came here to win and to do it the right way. So if it don’t look like it’s supposed to look, then I’m going to be frustrated if I’m not part of the plan.”
That's surprising and super disappointing from Adams. "It's nice if we win but if we win and I get shut out I'll cry about it". I haven't ever seen any selfishness from him like this before. It's not the most disruptive/diva thing a WR has ever said by a long shot, but it's a first from him I think?
“So when I go out there, I expect to be able to have that ability to put that on tape and have an influence on the game. That’s my purpose for being here. I’m not here just to hang out. I came here to win and to do it the right way. So if it don’t look like it’s supposed to look, then I’m going to be frustrated if I’m not part of the plan.”
That's surprising and super disappointing from Adams. "It's nice if we win but if we win and I get shut out I'll cry about it". I haven't ever seen any selfishness from him like this before. It's not the most disruptive/diva thing a WR has ever said by a long shot, but it's a first from him I think?
ICON211
Footballguy
I was thinking about his comments and at first I was disappointed. Thinking about it further I think he sees that they were fortunate to win the games they have with the offense playing as poorly as it has. The offense probably would look much better if the QBs threw him the ball when they were supposed to, like any time he has a matchup where he is singled up. They have not been doing that. He also said something to the effect that if Myers was going off and the offense looked like it was working great he'd be cool with it. What he said comes off as selfish, but I think if it was worded a little differently nobody would have made anything of it.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
I want this to be the case, he's been taken out of context a lot already, but this one's much tougher to diagnose:
"So when I go out there, I expect to be able to have that ability to put that on tape and have an influence on the game. That’s my purpose for being here. I’m not here just to hang out. I came here to win and to do it the right way"
I'm a perfectionist, and I've shot plenty of rounds of golf in the 70's but been disappointed at how I did it - "man, my ball striking was bad all day, good thing my putting salvaged the round" - so maybe this is his perspective. He'll take the ugly ones, but strives for doing it "better"? Again, we've never seen this kind of diva attitude from him so I want to believe that's not what it is but that quote's a toughie.
ZADO
Footballguy
Hes never been a prima donna type WR ,so im thinking hes talking out of frustration ,as we all feel the same way. The Visor should have this offense scoring 30 points per game with the talent the Raiders have. I wouldnt read anything into his words at this point.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Epps been watching Peters make tackles.
carlson hasn’t been right all year.
carlson hasn’t been right all year.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
If I never see another f’ing jet sweep I’ll die happy. What is the fascination with this stupid play? Gruden loved it too.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
peters. 
What is it with Epps today? He wanted nothing to do with the Chicago RB at the goal line. He literally let him score untouched and just jogged away like it was no big deal. No wonder the Eagles let him walk.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
This time management is reminding me of the Raiders horrible
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Worst team in football
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Time for a tillery penalty to show the damn defense that it’s ok to hit someone
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
FG?
ZADO
Footballguy
a bad joke
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I tried to be cute and started the Raiders Def today. I deserve to lose.
So did I. I should have known better, I always drink some kool aid every year and it comes back to bite me every time
raidersraidersraiders
Footballguy
raidersraidersraiders
Footballguy
I don't know if mcdaniels will be fired after this, but I wish the raiders would fire me as a fan.
ZADO
Footballguy
we are gluttons for punishment for real
raidersraidersraiders
Footballguy
is this offense historically bad yet? I feel like it should be by now
raidersraidersraiders
Footballguy
touchdown baby! 
ZADO
Footballguy
Makes you wonder if the offense would have played better with AOC all gametouchdown baby!
raidersraidersraiders
Footballguy
hoyer needed to be benched at halftime.
mcD waits too long to make these important decisions and it costs the team
I knew there was a chance of things going bad with hoyer starting, but didn't think it would be this bad.
team needs to be all in with aoc for rest of the season. it's pointless not to
mcD waits too long to make these important decisions and it costs the team
I knew there was a chance of things going bad with hoyer starting, but didn't think it would be this bad.
team needs to be all in with aoc for rest of the season. it's pointless not to
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ZADO
Footballguy
Chicken **** coach
It needs to…
McD should be fired before he gets on the plane and Ziegler should be cleaning out his office as I write this. But it won’t happen, we’ve got at least another year of this cr@p.
Bringing a defense to Chicago would have been nice too…
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Have you forgotten about Coach Saturday’s Maiden win or Baker Mayfield beating us after joining the Rams 2 days earlier. At least we were blowing double digit leads last year… now barely making it to double digits
My mistake. Yes I remember those.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
To answer your questions in two words: Mark Davis
Remember, there was a reason Al kept him away from the decision- making process.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
To add, the Raiders are now 0-3 facing rookie QBs since 2020.
Then why will it to him? Al should have knew better.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
I don’t disagree, but how is it going to help improve the team if the wheels fall off? The same incompetent owner will still hold all the power. At best, he will go out and over-pay for some name-brand retread coach. And they will still screw up their draft picks. Being a Raider fan is the equivalent to being Sisyphus among the Greek gods.
ZADO
Footballguy
I believe Bruno2 is saying the crap does indeed need to hit the fan, cant just keep going down this road ...its a dead end
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