2023 Las Vegas Raiders - RIP Jack - one of the greatest Super Bowl moments ever (5 Viewers)

[raidersraidersraiders]

Crosby said Garoppolo talks a lot of **** during workouts and practice. “He’s a dog and I love it. And I am not just saying that because he’s my QB.”

finally got a qb who can use curse words. ned flanders did not have that dog in him

 

[Chadstroma]

Crosby said Garoppolo talks a lot of **** during workouts and practice. “He’s a dog and I love it. And I am not just saying that because he’s my QB.”

finally got a qb who can use curse words. ned flanders did not have that dog in him

Hate to point this out for you since you seem super excited about that but the above is Crosby talking. Just FYI.

 

[raidersraidersraiders]

he's talking about his new qb who can talk ****, unlike the last guy who was too busy praying

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Crosby said Garoppolo talks a lot of **** during workouts and practice. “He’s a dog and I love it. And I am not just saying that because he’s my QB.”

finally got a qb who can use curse words. ned flanders did not have that dog in him

Hate to point this out for you since you seem super excited about that but the above is Crosby talking. Just FYI.

That’s abundantly clear. And Crosby loves his **** talking.

Saint carr has always acted hard. but it falls flat. The photo of him walking into saints camp, sneering and throwing some sort of “gangster” sign is beyond lame. I grew up in the hood and he’d be clowned endlessly. The only reason he wouldn’t get a beat down, is that he is so over the top religious, that the gangsters would be afraid of the blowback from the moms and all the aunties. let alone the pastors/priests

 

[Chadstroma]

he's talking about his new qb who can talk ****, unlike the last guy who was too busy praying

I am sure Jimmy G swears every time he gets hurt.

It is such an odd praise of Jimmy and attack on Carr but I guess when you hate a guy... you hate a guy and everything is an attack. Even more so when Carr had that locker room 100% behind him and that isn't debatable.

Different guys. Different ways to interact. Big deal. Both are leaders.

 

[Chaka]

Carr had that locker room 100% behind him and that isn't debatable

How do we really know this? I mean, it's rare for players to publicly go after their QBs. Doing stuff like helping your QB up after getting knocked down is simply professional behavior.

I'm sure there were some guys who got frustrated with Carr's seemingly uncanny ability to fall short inside the 10, or maybe his preachiness (or whatever)and just kept their mouths shut.

The only players who are universally admired by their teammates are the ones who consistently deliver in the locker room, in the practice field AND during games.

Even then it's no guarantee.

 

[Chadstroma]

Carr had that locker room 100% behind him and that isn't debatable

How do we really know this? I mean, it's rare for players to publicly go after their QBs. Doing stuff like helping your QB up after getting knocked down is simply professional behavior.

I'm sure there were some guys who got frustrated with Carr's seemingly uncanny ability to fall short inside the 10, or maybe his preachiness (or whatever)and just kept their mouths shut.

The only players who are universally admired by their teammates are the ones who consistently deliver in the locker room, in the practice field AND during games.

Even then it's no guarantee.

How do I know this?

I have never seen so many players (both offense and defense) visibly concerned for their QB being hurt than when Carr went down after a play. It wasn't a "oh crap, how do we run the offense if he is out" huddle on the sideline but crowding around to get a glimpse of his wel being for concern of the man. That speals volumes more than a soundbite of a player who likes the new QB's trash talking.... and somehow that turns into a slight on Carr.

Swearing and talking crap isn't relationships. It can be how you relate but the absence or proliferation has no bearing on relationships. People can hate Carr and expose their own prejudices because he is a Christian... they can say he is a sucky QB... but one thing that is absolutely laughable and ridiculous to say is that Carr didn't have the lockeroom behind him.

 

[Chadstroma]

Normal people reading that article "I can just picture Crosby and Jimmy G going at it at practice."

Carr haters reading that article "Carr sucks because he didn't swear!"

Some of yall need some professional help.

 

[Chaka]

Carr had that locker room 100% behind him and that isn't debatable

How do we really know this? I mean, it's rare for players to publicly go after their QBs. Doing stuff like helping your QB up after getting knocked down is simply professional behavior.

I'm sure there were some guys who got frustrated with Carr's seemingly uncanny ability to fall short inside the 10, or maybe his preachiness (or whatever)and just kept their mouths shut.

The only players who are universally admired by their teammates are the ones who consistently deliver in the locker room, in the practice field AND during games.

Even then it's no guarantee.

How do I know this?

I have never seen so many players (both offense and defense) visibly concerned for their QB being hurt than when Carr went down after a play. It wasn't a "oh crap, how do we run the offense if he is out" huddle on the sideline but crowding around to get a glimpse of his wel being for concern of the man. That speals volumes more than a soundbite of a player who likes the new QB's trash talking.... and somehow that turns into a slight on Carr.

Swearing and talking crap isn't relationships. It can be how you relate but the absence or proliferation has no bearing on relationships. People can hate Carr and expose their own prejudices because he is a Christian... they can say he is a sucky QB... but one thing that is absolutely laughable and ridiculous to say is that Carr didn't have the lockeroom behind him.

I made no comparison to Garoppolo. I consider Maxx's comments independent of what I was asking you.

What it seems to come down to is your interpretation of body language when Carr went down.

That is fine but it isn't 100% anything but opinion. I believe the players liked Carr just fine, but the idea of him being super beloved by the whole team, or even the vast majority, is belief not fact.

 

[Chadstroma]

Carr had that locker room 100% behind him and that isn't debatable

How do we really know this? I mean, it's rare for players to publicly go after their QBs. Doing stuff like helping your QB up after getting knocked down is simply professional behavior.

I'm sure there were some guys who got frustrated with Carr's seemingly uncanny ability to fall short inside the 10, or maybe his preachiness (or whatever)and just kept their mouths shut.

The only players who are universally admired by their teammates are the ones who consistently deliver in the locker room, in the practice field AND during games.

Even then it's no guarantee.

How do I know this?

I have never seen so many players (both offense and defense) visibly concerned for their QB being hurt than when Carr went down after a play. It wasn't a "oh crap, how do we run the offense if he is out" huddle on the sideline but crowding around to get a glimpse of his wel being for concern of the man. That speals volumes more than a soundbite of a player who likes the new QB's trash talking.... and somehow that turns into a slight on Carr.

Swearing and talking crap isn't relationships. It can be how you relate but the absence or proliferation has no bearing on relationships. People can hate Carr and expose their own prejudices because he is a Christian... they can say he is a sucky QB... but one thing that is absolutely laughable and ridiculous to say is that Carr didn't have the lockeroom behind him.

I made no comparison to Garoppolo. I consider Maxx's comments independent of what I was asking you.

What it seems to come down to is your interpretation of body language when Carr went down.

That is fine but it isn't 100% anything but opinion. I believe the players liked Carr just fine, but the idea of him being super beloved by the whole team, or even the vast majority, is belief not fact.

Not body language.

Normally a player goes down... there is one of two guys nearby as the rest of the team is elsewhere. Not that they aren't concerned or anything but injuries are part of the game.

Someone goes down you are close to then you move towards with concern because of the relationship.

Just as about an hour ago when my son went down at his bball camp. It was a bit of an awkward landing. I immediately got up and went over. If it was any other kid that did the same, I would be concerned but I would have not got up and went there. The difference? The relationship. It is how humans are. It isn't an interpretation of body language but an observation of how people are and how the team reacted.. both offense and defense.... which is a much more powerful communication of real feelings than anything ever says.

It is a belief. A belief based on evidence. Much better evidence than "he didn't swear, now we got a guy who does and thr locker room will follow him".

 

[ICON211]

he's talking about his new qb who can talk ****, unlike the last guy who was too busy praying

I am sure Jimmy G swears every time he gets hurt.

It is such an odd praise of Jimmy and attack on Carr but I guess when you hate a guy... you hate a guy and everything is an attack. Even more so when Carr had that locker room 100% behind him and that isn't debatable.

Different guys. Different ways to interact. Big deal. Both are leaders.

I'm sure Carr had a lot of guys that really liked and respected him, but I never got the sense he was a universally beloved leader.
There was the game in Washington a few years ago when there was something going on between him and the offensive line.
I also didn't see a lot of guys that seemed really upset or angry that he was benched last year. I think if he was as beloved as you think there would have been more guys that publicly came to his defense.

 

[Chadstroma]

he's talking about his new qb who can talk ****, unlike the last guy who was too busy praying

I am sure Jimmy G swears every time he gets hurt.

It is such an odd praise of Jimmy and attack on Carr but I guess when you hate a guy... you hate a guy and everything is an attack. Even more so when Carr had that locker room 100% behind him and that isn't debatable.

Different guys. Different ways to interact. Big deal. Both are leaders.

I'm sure Carr had a lot of guys that really liked and respected him, but I never got the sense he was a universally beloved leader.
There was the game in Washington a few years ago when there was something going on between him and the offensive line.
I also didn't see a lot of guys that seemed really upset or angry that he was benched last year. I think if he was as beloved as you think there would have been more guys that publicly came to his defense.

I remember Manning and Saturday getting into it with each other one game... man, they hated each other.

You really expect a player to come out and say something after the organization made it clear Carr was out and apparently it was agreed by both Carr and the team to leave which Carr said was to keep things kosher amongst the team and most likely he would have communicated that to the teammates to turn around and burn management/coaching staff and potentially their place on the team by being a locker room cancer on how they did Carr wrong? Ok... that is a strong stance IMO.

 

[Chadstroma]

Whatever... I don't care. He isn't on the Raiders anymore. Good luck to him but if it takes a "he sucks and no one likes him and if he only would swear we would have won superbowls with him" to move on.... fine... there you go.

 

[ICON211]

he's talking about his new qb who can talk ****, unlike the last guy who was too busy praying

I am sure Jimmy G swears every time he gets hurt.

It is such an odd praise of Jimmy and attack on Carr but I guess when you hate a guy... you hate a guy and everything is an attack. Even more so when Carr had that locker room 100% behind him and that isn't debatable.

Different guys. Different ways to interact. Big deal. Both are leaders.

I'm sure Carr had a lot of guys that really liked and respected him, but I never got the sense he was a universally beloved leader.
There was the game in Washington a few years ago when there was something going on between him and the offensive line.
I also didn't see a lot of guys that seemed really upset or angry that he was benched last year. I think if he was as beloved as you think there would have been more guys that publicly came to his defense.

I remember Manning and Saturday getting into it with each other one game... man, they hated each other.

You really expect a player to come out and say something after the organization made it clear Carr was out and apparently it was agreed by both Carr and the team to leave which Carr said was to keep things kosher amongst the team and most likely he would have communicated that to the teammates to turn around and burn management/coaching staff and potentially their place on the team by being a locker room cancer on how they did Carr wrong? Ok... that is a strong stance IMO.

I don't expect anyone to hurt their chances of staying on the team or get the organization pissed at them, but I did expect to see guys outside of Adams say something like "oh it's too bad it ended this way" or "this season wasn't Derek's fault and we share the blame in him getting benched." Or things along those lines. I got the sense most guys didn't care too much.

 

[Chaka]

Carr had that locker room 100% behind him and that isn't debatable

How do we really know this? I mean, it's rare for players to publicly go after their QBs. Doing stuff like helping your QB up after getting knocked down is simply professional behavior.

I'm sure there were some guys who got frustrated with Carr's seemingly uncanny ability to fall short inside the 10, or maybe his preachiness (or whatever)and just kept their mouths shut.

The only players who are universally admired by their teammates are the ones who consistently deliver in the locker room, in the practice field AND during games.

Even then it's no guarantee.

How do I know this?

I have never seen so many players (both offense and defense) visibly concerned for their QB being hurt than when Carr went down after a play. It wasn't a "oh crap, how do we run the offense if he is out" huddle on the sideline but crowding around to get a glimpse of his wel being for concern of the man. That speals volumes more than a soundbite of a player who likes the new QB's trash talking.... and somehow that turns into a slight on Carr.

Swearing and talking crap isn't relationships. It can be how you relate but the absence or proliferation has no bearing on relationships. People can hate Carr and expose their own prejudices because he is a Christian... they can say he is a sucky QB... but one thing that is absolutely laughable and ridiculous to say is that Carr didn't have the lockeroom behind him.

I made no comparison to Garoppolo. I consider Maxx's comments independent of what I was asking you.

What it seems to come down to is your interpretation of body language when Carr went down.

That is fine but it isn't 100% anything but opinion. I believe the players liked Carr just fine, but the idea of him being super beloved by the whole team, or even the vast majority, is belief not fact.

Not body language.

Normally a player goes down... there is one of two guys nearby as the rest of the team is elsewhere. Not that they aren't concerned or anything but injuries are part of the game.

Someone goes down you are close to then you move towards with concern because of the relationship.

Just as about an hour ago when my son went down at his bball camp. It was a bit of an awkward landing. I immediately got up and went over. If it was any other kid that did the same, I would be concerned but I would have not got up and went there. The difference? The relationship. It is how humans are. It isn't an interpretation of body language but an observation of how people are and how the team reacted.. both offense and defense.... which is a much more powerful communication of real feelings than anything ever says.

It is a belief. A belief based on evidence. Much better evidence than "he didn't swear, now we got a guy who does and thr locker room will follow him".

Why do you hate everyone else's children?

 

[Chaka]

No one can go from 0 to EVERYONE HATES CARR!!! quicker than Chad.

I kid, I kid.

 

[raidersraidersraiders]

if G can handle mcD's style of coaching where the qb gets called out in front of everyone just like any other player on the team does. then that alone makes him a much better fit, along with any other qb they bring in.

 

[kaso]

Reports out that the Raiders offered Jacobs a 1 year deal for $12M. Jacobs declined. Based on what Barkley just agreed to that offer is not offside. Granted, don't know the details of the $12M (bonus, incentives, etc.)... But with the limited info, this makes me think Jacobs is more aligned with Leveon Bell's line of thinking then he is the leagues view of the value of RB position.

Barkley's contract is pretty odd actually. Something like $900k in incentives which will be tough to obtain (1350 yards rushing, Giants make the playoffs, etc.) , and because he signed the contract it opens the door for the Giants to tag him again next season.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Carr had that locker room 100% behind him and that isn't debatable

How do we really know this? I mean, it's rare for players to publicly go after their QBs. Doing stuff like helping your QB up after getting knocked down is simply professional behavior.

I'm sure there were some guys who got frustrated with Carr's seemingly uncanny ability to fall short inside the 10, or maybe his preachiness (or whatever)and just kept their mouths shut.

The only players who are universally admired by their teammates are the ones who consistently deliver in the locker room, in the practice field AND during games.

Even then it's no guarantee.

I have always doubted it. But Chad says it’s just because I hate DC. His persona wears thin after a while. How many times can a guy say “it’s on me”. Starts to fall flat over and over and over.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Carr had that locker room 100% behind him and that isn't debatable

How do we really know this? I mean, it's rare for players to publicly go after their QBs. Doing stuff like helping your QB up after getting knocked down is simply professional behavior.

I'm sure there were some guys who got frustrated with Carr's seemingly uncanny ability to fall short inside the 10, or maybe his preachiness (or whatever)and just kept their mouths shut.

The only players who are universally admired by their teammates are the ones who consistently deliver in the locker room, in the practice field AND during games.

Even then it's no guarantee.

How do I know this?

I have never seen so many players (both offense and defense) visibly concerned for their QB being hurt than when Carr went down after a play. It wasn't a "oh crap, how do we run the offense if he is out" huddle on the sideline but crowding around to get a glimpse of his wel being for concern of the man. That speals volumes more than a soundbite of a player who likes the new QB's trash talking.... and somehow that turns into a slight on Carr.

Swearing and talking crap isn't relationships. It can be how you relate but the absence or proliferation has no bearing on relationships. People can hate Carr and expose their own prejudices because he is a Christian... they can say he is a sucky QB... but one thing that is absolutely laughable and ridiculous to say is that Carr didn't have the lockeroom behind him.

Carr is a nice guy. He’s the QB. Everyone is going to follow him because it’s their job. I remember that play. And you’re right. Many showed real concern for him. I don’t like some of my co workers. When something awful happens in their lives, I am Truly empathetic. still don’t like em though.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Normal people reading that article "I can just picture Crosby and Jimmy G going at it at practice."

Carr haters reading that article "Carr sucks because he didn't swear!"

Some of yall need some professional help.

I read that Crosby prefers the dreamboat‘s demeanor on the field. And you’ve labeled me a carr hater.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

he's talking about his new qb who can talk ****, unlike the last guy who was too busy praying

I am sure Jimmy G swears every time he gets hurt.

It is such an odd praise of Jimmy and attack on Carr but I guess when you hate a guy... you hate a guy and everything is an attack. Even more so when Carr had that locker room 100% behind him and that isn't debatable.

Different guys. Different ways to interact. Big deal. Both are leaders.

I'm sure Carr had a lot of guys that really liked and respected him, but I never got the sense he was a universally beloved leader.
There was the game in Washington a few years ago when there was something going on between him and the offensive line.
I also didn't see a lot of guys that seemed really upset or angry that he was benched last year. I think if he was as beloved as you think there would have been more guys that publicly came to his defense.

I remember Manning and Saturday getting into it with each other one game... man, they hated each other.

You really expect a player to come out and say something after the organization made it clear Carr was out and apparently it was agreed by both Carr and the team to leave which Carr said was to keep things kosher amongst the team and most likely he would have communicated that to the teammates to turn around and burn management/coaching staff and potentially their place on the team by being a locker room cancer on how they did Carr wrong? Ok... that is a strong stance IMO.

What are you going to name the baby that you and Carr are having? Saturday never ever let up, so manning could get hit. ever

 

[DA RAIDERS]

he's talking about his new qb who can talk ****, unlike the last guy who was too busy praying

I am sure Jimmy G swears every time he gets hurt.

It is such an odd praise of Jimmy and attack on Carr but I guess when you hate a guy... you hate a guy and everything is an attack. Even more so when Carr had that locker room 100% behind him and that isn't debatable.

Different guys. Different ways to interact. Big deal. Both are leaders.

I'm sure Carr had a lot of guys that really liked and respected him, but I never got the sense he was a universally beloved leader.
There was the game in Washington a few years ago when there was something going on between him and the offensive line.
I also didn't see a lot of guys that seemed really upset or angry that he was benched last year. I think if he was as beloved as you think there would have been more guys that publicly came to his defense.

I remember Manning and Saturday getting into it with each other one game... man, they hated each other.

You really expect a player to come out and say something after the organization made it clear Carr was out and apparently it was agreed by both Carr and the team to leave which Carr said was to keep things kosher amongst the team and most likely he would have communicated that to the teammates to turn around and burn management/coaching staff and potentially their place on the team by being a locker room cancer on how they did Carr wrong? Ok... that is a strong stance IMO.

I don't expect anyone to hurt their chances of staying on the team or get the organization pissed at them, but I did expect to see guys outside of Adams say something like "oh it's too bad it ended this way" or "this season wasn't Derek's fault and we share the blame in him getting benched." Or things along those lines. I got the sense most guys didn't care too much.

Derek said he wasn’t fully in to it/focused/didn’t give his all. something like that. It WAS telling that no one really said squat when he got benched

 

[LawFitz]

Derek probably never bought into McZ, and fell into the passive aggressive trap that any human can when confronted with the replacement of a boss and system he liked with one he doubts.

 

[Chadstroma]

Looking forward to the notes on todays camp.

 

[kaso]

The Raiders released their youtube video for Day 1.... Chandler Jones was interviewed and was asked who is one young player who we should be watching in training camp who has a lot of potential. His answer ... Undrafted DE Adam Plant (#52). Something to watch through camp.

 

[Chaka]

The Raiders released their youtube video for Day 1.... Chandler Jones was interviewed and was asked who is one young player who we should be watching in training camp who has a lot of potential. His answer ... Undrafted DE Adam Plant (#52). Something to watch through camp.

Man, wouldn't that be nice to find a legit contributor as an UDFA? Who was the last UDFA that made a big impact with the Raiders?

 

[Bruno2]

The Raiders released their youtube video for Day 1.... Chandler Jones was interviewed and was asked who is one young player who we should be watching in training camp who has a lot of potential. His answer ... Undrafted DE Adam Plant (#52). Something to watch through camp.

Man, wouldn't that be nice to find a legit contributor as an UDFA? Who was the last UDFA that made a big impact with the Raiders?

Not a huge impact but I believe Nick Morrow was a UDFA. He stuck around long enough to start one year at LB and then the Bears signed him. I think he’s in Philly now.

 

[Chadstroma]

The Raiders released their youtube video for Day 1.... Chandler Jones was interviewed and was asked who is one young player who we should be watching in training camp who has a lot of potential. His answer ... Undrafted DE Adam Plant (#52). Something to watch through camp.

Remember during Hard Knocks they asked the players who was up and coming or however they phrased it? They basically all said Waller and then BOOM.

 

[RaiderBones]

We have seen it coming for a while but the Peters signing just makes sense. The league was down on him because of the bad year last year but that was first year coming off of ACL which historically takes the second year to really come back from. If he makes a rebound and is anything like the Peters before his injury then this will go a long way to helping shore up the defense. If not, it is a one year deal and we don't lose much as we just lean on whomever we would have gone with without signing him. Buzz is that he looked pretty good on the tryout and in time for a full camp.

Plus the Ravens had a new defensive coordinator and had Peters doing things that weren't to his strengths.

 

[RaiderBones]

Reports out that the Raiders offered Jacobs a 1 year deal for $12M. Jacobs declined. Based on what Barkley just agreed to that offer is not offside. Granted, don't know the details of the $12M (bonus, incentives, etc.)... But with the limited info, this makes me think Jacobs is more aligned with Leveon Bell's line of thinking then he is the leagues view of the value of RB position.

Barkley's contract is pretty odd actually. Something like $900k in incentives which will be tough to obtain (1350 yards rushing, Giants make the playoffs, etc.) , and because he signed the contract it opens the door for the Giants to tag him again next season.

My understanding is that offer was made before July 17th, before the franchise tag deadline. I also hear that Barkley and Pollard would have signed that deal if offered.

 

[RaiderBones]

The Raiders released their youtube video for Day 1.... Chandler Jones was interviewed and was asked who is one young player who we should be watching in training camp who has a lot of potential. His answer ... Undrafted DE Adam Plant (#52). Something to watch through camp.

Man, wouldn't that be nice to find a legit contributor as an UDFA? Who was the last UDFA that made a big impact with the Raiders?

A.J. Cole?

 

[raidersraidersraiders]

jacobs gotta go if that's true. turning down a deal that barkley would have taken lol. kick rocks!

 

[LawFitz]

jacobs gotta go if that's true. turning down a deal that barkley would have taken lol. kick rocks!

No

 

[Chaka]

Reports out that the Raiders offered Jacobs a 1 year deal for $12M. Jacobs declined. Based on what Barkley just agreed to that offer is not offside. Granted, don't know the details of the $12M (bonus, incentives, etc.)... But with the limited info, this makes me think Jacobs is more aligned with Leveon Bell's line of thinking then he is the leagues view of the value of RB position.

Barkley's contract is pretty odd actually. Something like $900k in incentives which will be tough to obtain (1350 yards rushing, Giants make the playoffs, etc.) , and because he signed the contract it opens the door for the Giants to tag him again next season.

My understanding is that offer was made before July 17th, before the franchise tag deadline. I also hear that Barkley and Pollard would have signed that deal if offered.

Didn't Barkley turn down $13 mil/year earlier this off-season?

 

[Chaka]

jacobs gotta go if that's true. turning down a deal that barkley would have taken lol. kick rocks!

Yeah, back in May Barkley turned down a $13 mil/year offer (with incentives that could take it to $14 mil) because he allegedly wanted $16 mil/year.

 

[RaiderBones]

jacobs gotta go if that's true. turning down a deal that barkley would have taken lol. kick rocks!

Yeah, back in May Barkley turned down a $13 mil/year offer (with incentives that could take it to $14 mil) because he allegedly wanted $16 mil/year.

FYI, Barkley denies that he was made that offer and denies he wanted $16 million a year!

 

[massraider]

Pro Football Talk is rough man, they plant stories for access, and they are right often enough that we just assume everything they say is true.

Yet Terry Bradshaw lives

 

[ZADO]

In other news

Per
@TonyPauline
the "reports" of Davante Adams wanting out of the #Raiders and being unhappy are "complete garbage" according to Adam's campAdams stated today "I want to retire in a Raiders jersey, nothing else" so that's that

 

[LawFitz]

****ing hate mainstream media

Josh Jakes is worthy of $13 MM in 2023

 

[Chaka]

Pro Football Talk is rough man, they plant stories for access, and they are right often enough that we just assume everything they say is true.

Yet Terry Bradshaw lives

I don't think Florio planted that. His post was from July but there were much earlier reports from other sources saying the same.

I think PFT was late to the party on that one.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

“We don't have any divas. We don't have any head cases.”

Liquored up kicker

take it as you will…….

 

[massraider]

Renfrow had a strong camp so far. Meyers as well.

 

[Chadstroma]

Renfrow had a strong camp so far. Meyers as well.

I saw something where Renfrow was saying that he wasn't having fun last year and let his teammates down.... something alone those lines and that he is driven to not let that happen again.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Renfrow had a strong camp so far. Meyers as well.

I saw something where Renfrow was saying that he wasn't having fun last year and let his teammates down.... something alone those lines and that he is driven to not let that happen again.

It had nothing to with Carr. Ok? Get over it!

 

[Bruno2]

Renfrow had a strong camp so far. Meyers as well.

I saw something where Renfrow was saying that he wasn't having fun last year and let his teammates down.... something alone those lines and that he is driven to not let that happen again.

That’s probably because he and the Raiders never fully recovered from that fumble against Arizona. Not putting all the blame on Renfrow because he was injured for a long time after that play and his teammates are supposedly professionals and should be able to put games like that in the past and learn from them. Apparently that didn’t happen.

 

[Chaka]

Renfrow had a strong camp so far. Meyers as well.

I saw something where Renfrow was saying that he wasn't having fun last year and let his teammates down.... something alone those lines and that he is driven to not let that happen again.

That’s probably because he and the Raiders never fully recovered from that fumble against Arizona. Not putting all the blame on Renfrow because he was injured for a long time after that play and his teammates are supposedly professionals and should be able to put games like that in the past and learn from them. Apparently that didn’t happen.

What didn't happen? Did they air grievances against him during Festivus? Was he discommendated?

 

[Bruno2]

Renfrow had a strong camp so far. Meyers as well.

I saw something where Renfrow was saying that he wasn't having fun last year and let his teammates down.... something alone those lines and that he is driven to not let that happen again.

That’s probably because he and the Raiders never fully recovered from that fumble against Arizona. Not putting all the blame on Renfrow because he was injured for a long time after that play and his teammates are supposedly professionals and should be able to put games like that in the past and learn from them. Apparently that didn’t happen.

What didn't happen? Did they air grievances against him during Festivus? Was he discommendated?

That was awesome! Nothing like that though. Just seemed like that loss deflated the team and took the air out of the first half of the season. From the outside looking in, I don’t think the team ever fully recovered from that game. How many more double digit leads did they give up after that game? I know it was a lot and set an NFL record. Let’s just hope that fiasco is a distant memory and doesn’t happen again. I don’t blame Hunter for not having any fun last season.

 

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The actual quotes from Renfrow (From The Athletic):

“I am practicing hard and trying to,” he said. “I think all of us out there are.”

And what’s his response to the trade rumors?

“Just have fun every day and control what I can control,” he said. “I didn’t have a lot of fun last year, and so that’s my big thing. Find ways to have fun.”

“That’s something that left a bad taste in my mouth and something that I want to get over and prove to them … that I’m a guy they can count on and just go and be consistent,” Renfrow said.

Tafur elaborated:

Renfrow said Friday after practice that he was miserable last season. The adjustment to McDaniels’ offense was tough. His role was smaller. Then, injuries forced him to miss seven games and he was held to 36 catches for 330 yards and two touchdowns — that after pulling down 103 receptions for 1,038 yards and nine touchdowns in 2021. Then Carr, one of his closest friends, was benched with two games left and ended his nine-year Raiders career on bad terms.

Renfrow said he blames only himself for last season, saying he feels like he let his teammates down.

 

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Ryan Sakamoto
@BEASTwriter
Jul 28 @Raiders CB Jakorian Bennett feet were patient. Something I look for in a boundary CB while staying square at LOS. You don't want to flip the hips too soon and get turned around, Bennett really impressed in this phase of his game today imo. - #BEASTwriter

Ryan Sakamoto
@BEASTwriter
Jul 28 @Raiders boundary CB Jakorian Bennett was matched up outside with speed demon WR Phillip Dorsett on a number of routes. The Maryland product held his own while staying in stride (not taking false steps) when turning in phase to make a play on the ball deep in the end zone.