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2023 Las Vegas Raiders - RIP Jack - one of the greatest Super Bowl moments ever (2 Viewers)


hondo says it's pretty much the entire team in favor of aoc starting and then mcD wanting his guy jimmy
I respect the heck out of Hondo but maybe he should stick with catching bad guys.

What does this mean?
Age test. You failed... realistically you passed and I'm just old.

ETA: and I have no idea who this Hondo guy is we're supposed to listen to about what the locker room wants. Beat guy I guess.
 
Beat guy I guess

Yeah, and while his personality is kinda annoying (or very), he is fairly unbiased most of the time and calls it like it is. He's also pretty dialed into the locker room and around the league. He was optimistic about Josh McDoughnuts for a long while and now seems to have turned a corner and is calling dude out for the stupid **** that keeps happening.
 
Beat guy I guess

Yeah, and while his personality is kinda annoying (or very), he is fairly unbiased most of the time and calls it like it is. He's also pretty dialed into the locker room and around the league. He was optimistic about Josh McDoughnuts for a long while and now seems to have turned a corner and is calling dude out for the stupid **** that keeps happening.
Sounds like he's me. Not convinced he knows any more but, it's a data point at least.
 
Beat guy I guess

Yeah, and while his personality is kinda annoying (or very), he is fairly unbiased most of the time and calls it like it is. He's also pretty dialed into the locker room and around the league. He was optimistic about Josh McDoughnuts for a long while and now seems to have turned a corner and is calling dude out for the stupid **** that keeps happening.
Sounds like he's me. Not convinced he knows any more but, it's a data point at least.

Hondo is annoying, but he is MUCH closer to the pulse of this team than any fan.
 
Beat guy I guess

Yeah, and while his personality is kinda annoying (or very), he is fairly unbiased most of the time and calls it like it is. He's also pretty dialed into the locker room and around the league. He was optimistic about Josh McDoughnuts for a long while and now seems to have turned a corner and is calling dude out for the stupid **** that keeps happening.
Sounds like he's me. Not convinced he knows any more but, it's a data point at least.

You are dialed into the Raiders' locker room? C'mon man. Hondo is annoying, but he is MUCH closer to the pulse of this team than any fan. Even you.
I am sure he has better access but, apparently his conclusions are the same as mine. So, sure it's a data point but I'm not particularly moved by it.

Feels like filler, particularly because Davis isn't making a coaching mid season so I expect to see Jimmy G under center regardless of what Hondo says the locker room thinks.
 
I expect to see Jimmy G under center regardless of what Hondo says the locker room thinks.

That's not the point. I tend to agree with your statement b/c I have very little confidence in Josh Mac to make the right decision here. He better hope Jimmay wins on Monday night b/c this locker room sees what I see if Hondo is correct, and their fealty is officially on the line.
 

hondo says it's pretty much the entire team in favor of aoc starting and then mcD wanting his guy jimmy
I respect the heck out of Hondo but maybe he should stick with catching bad guys.
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hondo is the beat reporter with the most access and inside information on the team. if anybody is worth following for raiders news it's him
 
Best part about playing on MNF is you don't ruin Sunday football watching your team get railed
yes but the whole world gets to watch the Raiders lose and it gives so much ammo to your friends who love to give you crap about our team .

Ride or die is getting to be humiliating
 
Jimmy Garoppolo will never ever be the arch-typical Raider QB.

Why

Because his face is prettier than his ugly arm.

That's why Raider fans want AOC. He looks like he just pulled in driving a meat truck through Ohio, and even though he lost a few sides of beef on his route, you can always blame it on the owner of the company.

Until week 8.
 
aoc just never looked rattled no matter how bad things got. I did not see him looking shell shocked at all. in fact he got better as the game went along.

imagine if the line was blocking better, or just not allowing mack to have a one on one all game long. the guy still almost made a comeback if not for the dumb play call to end the game.
 
aoc just never looked rattled no matter how bad things got. I did not see him looking shell shocked at all. in fact he got better as the game went along.

imagine if the line was blocking better, or just not allowing mack to have a one on one all game long. the guy still almost made a comeback if not for the dumb play call to end the game.

I have received so much crap from 49er fans here (granted, most of them don't know what a QB looks like unless they read a tweet from somewhere) over Garoppolo) to the point where they banned a poster thinking that poster was I trolling them under another IP lulz.

Derek Carr has made the Pro Bowl 4 times out of his career with the Raiders. Garoppolo has never made the Pro Bowl in his entire career, and he still won't this season if he makes it through it.

If you're going to move on from Carr, do it with a young QB, not with a washed QB who couldn't make a Pro Bowl as an alternate, in the era where the NFL begs players to attend it.

The Raiders don't have a QB problem. That's already solved. Your problem is Jimmy Garoppolo. Who isn't even Derek Carr.
 
aoc just never looked rattled no matter how bad things got. I did not see him looking shell shocked at all. in fact he got better as the game went along.

imagine if the line was blocking better, or just not allowing mack to have a one on one all game long. the guy still almost made a comeback if not for the dumb play call to end the game.

I have received so much crap from 49er fans here (granted, most of them don't know what a QB looks like unless they read a tweet from somewhere) over Garoppolo) to the point where they banned a poster thinking that poster was I trolling them under another IP lulz.

Derek Carr has made the Pro Bowl 4 times out of his career with the Raiders. Garoppolo has never made the Pro Bowl in his entire career, and he still won't this season if he makes it through it.

If you're going to move on from Carr, do it with a young QB, not with a washed QB who couldn't make a Pro Bowl as an alternate, in the era where the NFL begs players to attend it.

The Raiders don't have a QB problem. That's already solved. Your problem is Jimmy Garoppolo. Who isn't even Derek Carr.
We have a mcD problem
 
aoc just never looked rattled no matter how bad things got. I did not see him looking shell shocked at all. in fact he got better as the game went along.

imagine if the line was blocking better, or just not allowing mack to have a one on one all game long. the guy still almost made a comeback if not for the dumb play call to end the game.

I have received so much crap from 49er fans here (granted, most of them don't know what a QB looks like unless they read a tweet from somewhere) over Garoppolo) to the point where they banned a poster thinking that poster was I trolling them under another IP lulz.

Derek Carr has made the Pro Bowl 4 times out of his career with the Raiders. Garoppolo has never made the Pro Bowl in his entire career, and he still won't this season if he makes it through it.

If you're going to move on from Carr, do it with a young QB, not with a washed QB who couldn't make a Pro Bowl as an alternate, in the era where the NFL begs players to attend it.

The Raiders don't have a QB problem. That's already solved. Your problem is Jimmy Garoppolo. Who isn't even Derek Carr.
We have a mcD problem
Sure, but Garoppolo isn't going to help your defense either. Plus he won't finish the season.
 
aoc just never looked rattled no matter how bad things got. I did not see him looking shell shocked at all. in fact he got better as the game went along.

imagine if the line was blocking better, or just not allowing mack to have a one on one all game long. the guy still almost made a comeback if not for the dumb play call to end the game.

I have received so much crap from 49er fans here (granted, most of them don't know what a QB looks like unless they read a tweet from somewhere) over Garoppolo) to the point where they banned a poster thinking that poster was I trolling them under another IP lulz.

Derek Carr has made the Pro Bowl 4 times out of his career with the Raiders. Garoppolo has never made the Pro Bowl in his entire career, and he still won't this season if he makes it through it.

If you're going to move on from Carr, do it with a young QB, not with a washed QB who couldn't make a Pro Bowl as an alternate, in the era where the NFL begs players to attend it.

The Raiders don't have a QB problem. That's already solved. Your problem is Jimmy Garoppolo. Who isn't even Derek Carr.
We have a mcD problem
Sure, but Garoppolo isn't going to help your defense either. Plus he won't finish the season.

His point is that Grop - as awful as he is, and agreed he ****ing sucks *** - is a symptom, rather than the disease.
 
aoc just never looked rattled no matter how bad things got. I did not see him looking shell shocked at all. in fact he got better as the game went along.

imagine if the line was blocking better, or just not allowing mack to have a one on one all game long. the guy still almost made a comeback if not for the dumb play call to end the game.

I have received so much crap from 49er fans here (granted, most of them don't know what a QB looks like unless they read a tweet from somewhere) over Garoppolo) to the point where they banned a poster thinking that poster was I trolling them under another IP lulz.

Derek Carr has made the Pro Bowl 4 times out of his career with the Raiders. Garoppolo has never made the Pro Bowl in his entire career, and he still won't this season if he makes it through it.

If you're going to move on from Carr, do it with a young QB, not with a washed QB who couldn't make a Pro Bowl as an alternate, in the era where the NFL begs players to attend it.

The Raiders don't have a QB problem. That's already solved. Your problem is Jimmy Garoppolo. Who isn't even Derek Carr.
We have a mcD problem
Sure, but Garoppolo isn't going to help your defense either. Plus he won't finish the season.

His point is that Grop - as awful as he is, and agreed he ****ing sucks *** - is a symptom, rather than the disease.
The Raider defense IMO is much better than they were last season, and defenses can go as well as the quarterback goes, and Garoppolo without a top 5 defense behind him really shows how mediocre he was with one, and much worse without one. The Raider defense can beat a very beatable Green Bay team if the offense doesn't crap the bed, GB is 30th against the rush and 11th against the pass, yet the Raiders are dead last in takeaway differential.

The best way of taking care of the ball is by running the ball, and if the Raiders can't do that, then yeah McD is a bonehead for not being able to establish that, but having a QB turn the ball over doesn't help.
 
In a business that pisses away money like the government does , its hard to accept that the Raiders are going to play JG because they threw so much money at him instead of playing the rookie , who may or may not be the future of this franchise . They keep losing , and the fans keep paying , maybe its time to boycott the Raiders and hit`em where it hurts the most, seeing they care more about money than winning.
 
Apparently the Raiders have been making calls seeking a trade for a player to player switch in adding a pass rusher. I think conventional wisdom would be that Renfrow would be the trade bait. I see that the Jets and Lawson are apparently not playing nice together right now (he was a healthy scratch). The Jets dont need another WR but let's just say that see the value in Renfrow that we apparently can not get out of him.....

Do you think we make that trade? Lawson has been a consistent 5-8 sack guy with the Bengals and even Jets last year.
 
Apparently the Raiders have been making calls seeking a trade for a player to player switch in adding a pass rusher. I think conventional wisdom would be that Renfrow would be the trade bait. I see that the Jets and Lawson are apparently not playing nice together right now (he was a healthy scratch). The Jets dont need another WR but let's just say that see the value in Renfrow that we apparently can not get out of him.....

Do you think we make that trade? Lawson has been a consistent 5-8 sack guy with the Bengals and even Jets last year.
Not sure I see the value in a one year rental considering he's going to want $15 mil, or so, per year to stick around but sure, why not?

Prefer they trade for picks though. The fact they would do it for players makes me think the staff doesn't think they'll get a third year if they don't turn it around.
 
In a business that pisses away money like the government does , its hard to accept that the Raiders are going to play JG because they threw so much money at him instead of playing the rookie , who may or may not be the future of this franchise . They keep losing , and the fans keep paying , maybe its time to boycott the Raiders and hit`em where it hurts the most, seeing they care more about money than winning.
Its good for AOC to watch and learn from the sidelines for half the season. We know the season is over but when it is officially over in a few weeks, roll out the kid and let’s see what he has. Start preparing for next season when he will be penciled in as the starter unless he looks really awful. (Think Mac Jones awful.)
 
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If people are talking AOC already, maybe it's tank for Caleb time?
I've been saying that since the Super Bowl ended.
Well you'd have to have a series of events in order to tank the season, both which include Garoppolo and McD being gone by mid-season. But tanking would make Davante even more cranky. But to tank means to fire McD first. Could be a win win. Unless you don't get Caleb anyway.
 
If people are talking AOC already, maybe it's tank for Caleb time?
I've been saying that since the Super Bowl ended.
Well you'd have to have a series of events in order to tank the season, both which include Garoppolo and McD being gone by mid-season. But tanking would make Davante even more cranky. But to tank means to fire McD first. Could be a win win. Unless you don't get Caleb anyway.
At the rate they're going, keeping McDaniels through the end of the season may be the best path to the top pick.
 
If people are talking AOC already, maybe it's tank for Caleb time?
I've been saying that since the Super Bowl ended.
Well you'd have to have a series of events in order to tank the season, both which include Garoppolo and McD being gone by mid-season. But tanking would make Davante even more cranky. But to tank means to fire McD first. Could be a win win. Unless you don't get Caleb anyway.
At the rate they're going, keeping McDaniels through the end of the season may be the best path to the top pick.
Fair point.
 
Jakorian Bennett and Aidan O'Connell join Nate Hobbs on Raiders' inactive list.

Seriously?

Hobbs must be injured or acting up. If the latter, expect the Raiders to get blown out tonight.
My issue is AOC getting demoted , its like McD is telling the fans ...''IM in charge and I say who plays or doesnt''
It fits with his statements this off-season. Hoyer is the in-game backup and O'Connell is the guy if Garoppolo misses full games.
 

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